In a message dated 22/09/2009 11:23:29 GMT Daylight Time, zen57162@zen.co.uk writes: There is no Eliza Tidbury born 1822 in HBapI but there is an EGLAH illegitimate dau of Sarah Tidbury of North Sydmonton bapt on 27 Jan 1822. The actual entry in Baptism Register is hard to read but it does look like Eglah or Ealah rather than Eliza I already have her as EULAH Tidbury ca1822 in the database, her mother Sarah (ca1800, dau of William & Charlotte Andrews) had another illegitimate dau, Hannah in 1833, before marrying William Kewell in 1826. John I don't think Eglah/Eulah Tidbury is not the same person who married Francis Twitchen. I think she is the Heghlow (?) Tidbury, 20, of Crookham who married Isaac Wilmot, 20, labourer of Crookham, on 30th January 1842 at St Mary's Church, Thatcham. Isaac's father was John Wilmot, labourer. The name of Heghlow's father was not shown. The witnesses were Henry Wilmot and Elizabeth Wilmot. I've not tried to locate the family as yet in any of the censuses. Debbie Kennett

On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 06:49:24 EDT DEBBIEKENNETT@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 22/09/2009 11:23:29 GMT Daylight Time, > zen57162@zen.co.uk writes: > > There is no Eliza Tidbury born 1822 in HBapI but there is an EGLAH > illegitimate dau of Sarah Tidbury of North Sydmonton bapt on 27 Jan > 1822. The actual entry in Baptism Register is hard to read but it > does look like Eglah or Ealah rather than Eliza > > I already have her as EULAH Tidbury ca1822 in the database, her > mother Sarah (ca1800, dau of William & Charlotte Andrews) had another > illegitimate dau, Hannah in 1833, before marrying William Kewell in > 1826. > > John > > I don't think Eglah/Eulah Tidbury is not the same person who married > Francis Twitchen. I think she is the Heghlow (?) Tidbury, 20, of > Crookham who married Isaac Wilmot, 20, labourer of Crookham, on 30th > January 1842 at St Mary's Church, Thatcham. Isaac's father was John > Wilmot, labourer. The name of Heghlow's father was not shown. The > witnesses were Henry Wilmot and Elizabeth Wilmot. I've not tried to > locate the family as yet in any of the censuses. If you are right, and I suspect you are considering you know more about the Tidburys than anyone else on the list, we are still left with an Eliza born in Ecchinswell ca1822 (according to the 1851 Census) to find. If we now accept the marriage entry recording Eliza's father as Peter Tidbury as being correct then who was he. We know there was a Peter bapt on 20 Nov 1803 in the Kingsclere St. Mary register but he is the only Peter Tidbury I know about. Peter Tidbury and wife Charlotte are recorded as lodgers in household of Charles & Sarah Miles at Rydes Hill, Worplesdon Kent in 1851. Peter born ca1804 Sidmonton and Charlotte ca1820 Barnack Leics (true to form the Ancestry transcription has surname as Tedbury) There is no marriage entry on FreeBMD or on the IGI and I haven't found him in 1841 to know if he had any children. He could be the Peter given as father of Eliza but there are no entries in HBapI for children of any Peter Tidbury and he would be rather young at only 19 years of age in 1822. -- John Lewis Debian & the GeneWeb genealogical data server

> On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 06:49:24 EDT Hi List, Two points on John's great find on Peter Tidbury as Peter Tedbury in the 1851 census. 1) Worplesdon is in Surrey. Ancestry.co.uk strikes again at data mangling. We all make mistakes but Ancestry turns it into an an art form. :-) 2) There are two more Tidbury families (couples) in the next two houses. The older couple (next door) has Agron? Tidbury (Ag Lab) age 60 b Berks Bradford (sic) [should that be Bradfield] and his wife Sarah (Laundress) age 58 b Worplesdon, Surrey. A family link between Peter and Agron perhaps? Regards, Nigel PS The other Tidbury couple are helpfully staying the H/H of their brother in law George and with wife Harriet Wheeler and the Henry Tidbury age 24 with his wife Ann age 21 might be a son of Agron. John wrote: > > If we now accept the marriage entry recording Eliza's father as Peter > Tidbury as being correct then who was he. We know there was a Peter bapt > on 20 Nov 1803 in the Kingsclere St. Mary register but he is the only > Peter Tidbury I know about. > > Peter Tidbury and wife Charlotte are recorded as lodgers in household > of Charles & Sarah Miles at Rydes Hill, Worplesdon Kent in 1851. Peter > born ca1804 Sidmonton and Charlotte ca1820 Barnack Leics (true to form > the Ancestry transcription has surname as Tedbury) > > There is no marriage entry on FreeBMD or on the IGI and I haven't found > him in 1841 to know if he had any children. > > He could be the Peter given as father of Eliza but there are no > entries in HBapI for children of any Peter Tidbury and he would be > rather young at only 19 years of age in 1822.