Thanks for this, Pam. I have to say that I gave up on the COTTERELLs/  COTTERALLs (& other variant spellings) some time ago as the evidence seemed so inconclusive. I couldn't, and still can't, see how they all fitted together - assuming that they did anyway. (Same problem with the BIRD/ BURD family, if anyone is looking at those!)   Thanks again for this info, Mike --- On Sun, 29/11/09, Pam Sykes <pamela@jimandpamsykes.plus.com> wrote:   For Michael Bayliss: I have been able to group various names into a family - but nothing that looks conclusive for either of us, sadly.  I have only looked at early Coterals, which is a pity, since a cousin of mine has just informed me that we have more Cottrells in the family, with our William Jennings 1883 marrying Florence Lucy Cottrell 1881.  I may have to look again! Basingstoke:  John Cottrell married Sarah and they had William 1655, Jone 1656 and Sarah 1666. John Cottrell (died 1671) married Elizabeth and they had John 1657( died), John 1668 and possibly one other John. John Cottrell married Elizabeth Plimmer in 1754 and their children were John 1755, Elizabeth 1756 and Mary 1757. Bramley: John Cottrell married Prudence in 1669 and they had Sarah 1670, Mary 1674 and John 1679. John Cottrell (probably the last listed) married Mary and they had John 1710, Mary 1711, Elizabeth 1712 and John 1715. Kingsclere: Michael Cottrell married Ann and had Francis 1756 and Ann 1758. Old Basing: John Cottrell was the father of Mary born 1686. George Cottrell married Mary and they had George 1714, Mary 1716, Edward 1718 and Sarah 1723. Elizabeth Cottrell was the mother of Sarah born 1745. Rotherwick: Richard Cottrell was the father of George 1750, Richard 1753, Mary 1756, John 1759 and Thomas 1763 (who subsequently married Jane 1778).  Richard died 1773. Steventon: John Cottrell was the father of John 1606, Agnes 1609 (died 1609) and Agnes 1610.  One or other of the Johns died 1648. Tadley: George Cottrell married Sarah and they had George 1773 and Charles 1776. William Cottrell married Rachel. Best wishes Pam

Mick, I am interested in the BIRD family because of the association with the MARTIN Family. My 3x Grandfather was the elusive Robert MARTIN born ca 1782 not in Hampshire buried 01 Aug 1842 at Burghclere with a given age of 60 and his wife Rachel born Hampshire ca 1782 for whom no marriage has yet been found. I have not been able to join up the numerous BIRD fragments into a coherent tree. Robert Bird aka Martin was born ca 1779 at Greenham but I think he is a different MARTIN, to my 3x grandfather, since he was buried at St Mary Greenham 20 April 1853 had a wife Sarah (marriage not known) and the children were given the surname BIRD. Regards, Nigel Gerdes > Thanks for this, Pam. I have to say that I gave up on > the COTTERELLs/  COTTERALLs (& other variant spellings) some time ago as > the evidence seemed so inconclusive. I couldn't, and still can't, see how > they all fitted together - assuming that they did anyway. (Same problem > with the BIRD/ BURD family, if anyone is looking at those!) > Thanks again for this info, > Mike > > --- On Sun, 29/11/09, Pam Sykes <pamela@jimandpamsykes.plus.com> wrote: >   > For Michael Bayliss: > > I have been able to group various names into a family - but nothing that > looks conclusive for either of us, sadly.  I have only looked at early > Coterals, which is a pity, since a cousin of mine has just informed me that > we have more Cottrells in the family, with our William Jennings 1883 > marrying Florence Lucy Cottrell 1881.  I may have to look again! > > Basingstoke:  John Cottrell married Sarah and they had William 1655, Jone > 1656 and Sarah 1666. > > John Cottrell (died 1671) married Elizabeth and they had John 1657( died), > John 1668 and possibly one other John. > > John Cottrell married Elizabeth Plimmer in 1754 and their children were > John 1755, Elizabeth 1756 and Mary 1757. > > Bramley: John Cottrell married Prudence in 1669 and they had Sarah 1670, > Mary 1674 and John 1679. > > John Cottrell (probably the last listed) married Mary and they had John > 1710, Mary 1711, Elizabeth 1712 and John 1715. > > Kingsclere: Michael Cottrell married Ann and had Francis 1756 and Ann 1758. > > Old Basing: John Cottrell was the father of Mary born 1686. > > George Cottrell married Mary and they had George 1714, Mary 1716, Edward > 1718 and Sarah 1723. > > Elizabeth Cottrell was the mother of Sarah born 1745. > > Rotherwick: Richard Cottrell was the father of George 1750, Richard 1753, > Mary 1756, John 1759 and Thomas 1763 (who subsequently married Jane 1778).  > Richard died 1773. > > Steventon: John Cottrell was the father of John 1606, Agnes 1609 (died > 1609) and Agnes 1610.  One or other of the Johns died 1648. > > Tadley: George Cottrell married Sarah and they had George 1773 and Charles > 1776. > > William Cottrell married Rachel. > > Best wishes > Pam > --------------------------------------- > > >From Kingsclere. ALL surnames in CAPITAL letter please. Christian name > > Lawrence surname LAWRENCE. > > --------------------------------------- > If you get unsubscribed and did not ask to be unsubscribed, please email > eng-hampshire-kingsclere-admin@rootsweb.com > --------------------------------------- > Make sure your Anti Virus Protection is updated and do a weekly backup of > your files. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message