Hi again Dorothy and John, I have been looking again at Ann in the Workhouse in 1871.Other inmates include:- Lucy WHITE age 10 Walter James WHITE 7 Rosin WHITE 4 Clara WHITE 2 Arthur William WHITE 3mth. In 1881 along with Ann and William HAINES is:- Lucy WHITE age 22 Walter WHITE 19 Clara WHITE 12 William WHITE 10 plus HAINES children This would indicate that Ann gave birth to the last WHITE child about Jan.1870 bringing George WHITE's death in 1866 into question. Unless she took on a brother-in-law's children? Have you any thoughts on this? Geoff

Well, of course, one obvious possibility is that Ann had two illegitimate children (Clara and Arthur William) after George had died and before she was married to William Haines. It may be necessary to obtain certificates to check this. Dorothy -----Original Message----- From: Geoff Hunt <geoff.t.hunt@btinternet.com> To: eng-hampshire-kingsclere@rootsweb.com Sent: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 16:42 Subject: [King] Ann HUNT Hi again Dorothy and John, I have been looking again at Ann in the Workhouse in 1871.Other inmates nclude:- Lucy WHITE age 10 alter James WHITE 7 osin WHITE 4 lara WHITE 2 rthur William WHITE 3mth. In 1881 along with Ann and William HAINES is:- Lucy WHITE age 22 alter WHITE 19 lara WHITE 12 illiam WHITE 10 lus HAINES children This would indicate that Ann gave birth to the last WHITE child about an.1870 bringing George WHITE's death in 1866 into question. Unless she ook on a brother-in-law's children? Have you any thoughts on this? Geoff --------------------------------------- >From Kingsclere. ALL surnames in CAPITAL letter please. Christian name Lawrence urname LAWRENCE. -------------------------------------- f you get unsubscribed and did not ask to be unsubscribed, please email ng-hampshire-kingsclere-admin@rootsweb.com -------------------------------------- ake sure your Anti Virus Protection is updated and do a weekly backup of your iles. ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 16:42:05 -0000 "Geoff Hunt" <geoff.t.hunt@btinternet.com> wrote: > Hi again Dorothy and John, > > I have been looking again at Ann in the Workhouse in 1871.Other > inmates include:- > > Lucy WHITE age 10 > Walter James WHITE 7 > Rosin WHITE 4 > Clara WHITE 2 > Arthur William WHITE 3mth. Walter and Rosina were baptised at St Lawrence on 26 Jul 1863 and 1 Oct 1865 respectively and recorded as children of George & Ann so we can be sure they are legitimate. I cannot see baptisms for Clara or Arthur William at St. Lawrence or St. Mary and the census records them as being born Stockcross and Speen It was, I suppose, part of the Workhouse 'culture' that didn't record families as families but listed children just as 'children of inmates'. However Lucy Rosina & Clara are grouped together although that may be simply alphabetical on account of their surnames being the same. Births Jun 1868: White Clara, Newbury 2c 228 Births Dec 1870: White Arthur William, Newbury 2c 221 > In 1881 along with Ann and William HAINES is:- > > Lucy WHITE age 22 > Walter WHITE 19 > Clara WHITE 12 > William WHITE 10 > plus HAINES children > > This would indicate that Ann gave birth to the last WHITE child about > Jan.1870 bringing George WHITE's death in 1866 into question. Unless > she took on a brother-in-law's children? As Dorothy suggest they could have been illegitimately born before she married William Haines but it will need birth cert(s) to be sure. I cannot see a burial for George White in the Berks Burial Index nor in St Lawrence, St. Mary or St Paul burial registers but looking at George White deaths in FreeBMD 1865-73 there _is_ only the 1866 one that fits his birth in about 1834. The IGI has only one possible baptism - at Speen on 6 Jul 1834, with parents James White & Ann Povey who married on 4 Jan 1834 at Speen, both member submitted entries unfortunately so need confirming. For now I am going to add the two children as illegitimate births to Ann White and hope someone will eventually be able to confirm this. -- John Lewis Debian & the GeneWeb genealogical data server