Hello All, John BRIDGMAN married Mary ALDRIDGE 1 June 1772 Hannington I have 7 children, looking at John LEWIS website, not listed is John bapt 5 January 1777 St. Mary's Church Kingsclere. Has anyone got the parents for Mary ALDRIDGE please. Kind regards Barbara Lewis Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants. UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk List Admin

For anyone with Allcannings origins/interests, there is a sizeable batch of 1787 baptisms missing that can only be rectified after reference to the BTs. There are also six in the 1790s with missing surnames that can be traced via BTs: 18 Nov 1794 [EADS]George son of John & Mary 22 Nov 1795 [PEARCE]Ann daughter of John & Elizabeth 09 Mar 1796 [FOWL]Mary daughter of Susannah Base born 19 Jun 1796 [ELES]Susannah dau of Richard & Elizabeth 25 Mar 1798 [CODRAY]Robert son of Charles & Hanah 27 May 1798 [WELLES]Daniel son of John & Martha Anyone wanting details of the 1787 omissions, please contact me off-list. Dorothy ----- Original Message ----- From: "john lewis" <zen57162@zen.co.uk> To: <eng-hampshire-kingsclere@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 9:17 AM Subject: Re: [King] Parish records etc > > On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 18:50:02 EDT > Gbsoper49@aol.com wrote: > >> I recently come accross site below which has copies of >> various >> parish register books. There are various Phillimore ones, >> as well as >> odd parishes from all over UK. There are some Thatcham >> ones from >> about 400 years ago. > >> http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=parish%20registers&page=1 > > Thanks Gerald for that link. The Hampshire Phillimores > I've long had, > stored on my computer in spreadsheet format, but I hadn't > realized > he'd 'done' other areas. > > And there is a lot of non-phillimore stuff as well. I > spotted > Allcannings, Wilts which may help with some of the > families in my > database that originated there. > > > -- > John Lewis > Debian & the GeneWeb genealogical data server

On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 18:50:02 EDT Gbsoper49@aol.com wrote: > I recently come accross site below which has copies of various > parish register books. There are various Phillimore ones, as well as > odd parishes from all over UK. There are some Thatcham ones from > about 400 years ago. > http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=parish%20registers&page=1 Thanks Gerald for that link. The Hampshire Phillimores I've long had, stored on my computer in spreadsheet format, but I hadn't realized he'd 'done' other areas. And there is a lot of non-phillimore stuff as well. I spotted Allcannings, Wilts which may help with some of the families in my database that originated there. -- John Lewis Debian & the GeneWeb genealogical data server

I recently come accross site below which has copies of various parish register books. There are various Phillimore ones, as well as odd parishes from all over UK. There are some Thatcham ones from about 400 years ago. _http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=parish%20registers&page=1_ (http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=parish%20registers&page=1) You can also find other history books, including lots of US ones, but there are histories of Thatcham & Newbury. The latter has lots of names, probably not many ag labs but clerics, tradesmen, aldermen etc. Gerald

Hello All, There is still time to book a place at the Kingsclere 8th Anniversary Lunch to be held on Sunday 4th October, you can bring along a partner. Please email me off line with your full choice of menu. Thank you for all of you that have sent your choice of menu off line, those of you that I have not heard from, please send me your choice of menu. I have to let the Golf Club know about our catering requirements, also they need to know in advance, how many people will be attending the Lunch, a week this Sunday. A room near the bar has been booked at the Cranfield Golf Academy, Sandfield Springs, Kingsclere RG26 5RT on the A339. We have a room to ourselves, we meet in the room at 12.30pm for 1pm Lunch, until 4pm. The Bar is just outside of the room, for you to purchase your drinks and wine to have with your Lunch. This is a set Lunch Menu at a cost of £16.50 inclusive. STARTERS Homemade Asparagus Soup Ardennes Medium Course Pate with Warm Toast & Red Onion Chutney Deep Fried Breaded Mushrooms with Garlic Mayonnaise Fan of Galia Melon with Mango Sorbet and Raspberries FROM THE CARVERY Roast Topside of English Beef served with Yorkshire Pudding Roast Loin of Pork with Apple Sauce Roast Turkey with Stuffing Served with a Selection of Seasonal Vegetables & Roast Potatoes Vegetarian - Stuffed Peppers DESSERT Mandarin Cheese Cake Lemon Tart served with Cream Rhubarb Crumble with Custard Cheese & Biscuits Selection of Ice Cream Coffee/Tea & Mints Best wishes Barbara Lewis Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants. UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk List Administrator

On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 20:10:32 EDT DEBBIEKENNETT@aol.com wrote: > You're looking in the wrong index. Not really as I was looking for actual transportees rather than those sentenced to transportation >You want the England and Wales Criminal Registers 1791-1892 which can be found here: > > http://search.ancestry.co.uk/Browse/list.aspx?dbid=1590&path= > > Needless to say there are quite a few Tidburys. seem to have been the local mafia gang ;-) > In the Michaelmas Session of 1833 Samuel, William and Charlotte > Tidbury were all convicted of larceny and sentenced to seven years' > transportation. Unfortunately no ages are given. This could be > William b.1792 and Charlotte b.1794 but I don't know who Samuel is. Samuel was listed on one of the Austalian convict sites too but since I didn't know who he was either didn't list him. -- John Lewis Debian & the GeneWeb genealogical data server

On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 22:20:06 +0100 Nigel St C Gerdes <nigel.gerdes@milnet.uk.net> wrote: > The 1881 census has Daniel Fosberry (Fosbury) given age 33 b > Ecchinswell living with his wife Phoebe at 1 High St Wargrave. Their > lodger is Thomas Tidbury age 80 born Egham Surrey. For completeness Daniel married Phoebe (Phebe) Neighbour at Wokingham RD Dec qtr 1867 (2c 815). Phoebe born ca 1845 in Wargrave, Berks. She had at least four siblings. Her parents were John and Dorothy Ann, John baptised at Bix, Oxon, age one year, on 30 Dec 1798 to Ann Neighbour who was born ca1778 in Bix to Joseph & Christian. He was buried at Wargrave on 12 Aug 1870. Dorothy Ann (widow Ann in 1871) was born ca1799 in Turville, Bucks and buried at Wargrave on 6 Mar 1873. No marriage or baptism on IGI. -- John Lewis Debian & the GeneWeb genealogical data server

I think I need to check the local newspapers at some point to see if the quarter sessions reports provide any biographical information The William Tidbury who sailed on the Lady Nugent was convicted in October 1834 whereas William, Charlotte and Samuel were convicted at the Michaelmas session in 1833. They could be two different Williams. Debbie

Hi Nigel Many thanks for this. There is a cluster of Tidburys in Egham which can be found on the Hugh Wallis IGI batch search site. It's just a question of finding the time to look into all these different lines! Best wishes Debbie In a message dated 22/09/2009 22:28:01 GMT Daylight Time, nigel.gerdes@milnet.uk.net writes: Hi Debbie and list, The 1881 census has Daniel Fosberry (Fosbury) given age 33 b Ecchinswell living with his wife Phoebe at 1 High St Wargrave. Their lodger is Thomas Tidbury age 80 born Egham Surrey. Ref National Archives RG11 Folio 1312/4 Page 1 There is a Daniel Fosbury b 1849 Ecchinswell on John's website. Regards, Nigel

Hi Debbie and list, The 1881 census has Daniel Fosberry (Fosbury) given age 33 b Ecchinswell living with his wife Phoebe at 1 High St Wargrave. Their lodger is Thomas Tidbury age 80 born Egham Surrey. Ref National Archives RG11 Folio 1312/4 Page 1 There is a Daniel Fosbury b 1849 Ecchinswell on John's website. Regards, Nigel > Hi Barbara > > You put me in touch with your Tidbury friend a couple of years ago now and > I have all the details of her tree in my database. Her line goes back to > an Elizabeth Tidbury b. c.1830 in Egham. Elizabeth was the daughter of > William Tidbury, a labourer, but so far we've not been able to take the > line back any further or connect it with the other Berkshire/Hampshire > Tidburys. > > Best wishes > > Debbie > > --------------------------------------- > > >From Kingsclere. ALL SURNAMES IN CAPITAL LETTERS PLEASE. > > --------------------------------------- > If you get unsubscribed and did not ask to be unsubscribed, please email > eng-hampshire-kingsclere-admin@rootsweb.com > --------------------------------------- > Make sure your Anti Virus Protection is updated and do a weekly backup of > your files. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Nigel and All, This afternoon I spoke to my surname, of TIDBURY girl friend and mentioned Rydes Hill, Worplesdon/Worplesham she said the TIDBURY'S lived at Windlesham, Surrey. Her TIDBURY great grandfather is Frederick Charles TIDBURY he married Edith RANCE, his sister is Edith. If correct Frederick and Edith lived in Sunningdale, Berkshire. Debbie had been in touch with my girl friend (not on computers), so can tell you more information about her TIDBURY family tree, if anyone is interested to know. Kind regards Barbara Lewis Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants. UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk List Admin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nigel St C Gerdes" <nigel.gerdes@milnet.uk.net> To: <eng-hampshire-kingsclere@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 5:38 PM Subject: [King] William & Charlotte TIDBURY - 7 years transportation > Hi List, > > Following on from the finding of Peter Tidbury as Peter Tedbury at > Worplesham, > Surrey in the 1851 census and the recent e-mail thread one decided > to search > on his partner/wife Charlotte. > > Up came for Berkshire Michaelmas Term 1833 seven years > transportation for > Charlotte and William Tidbury. The two entries are concurrent and > the same > crime of larceny. > > Source Citation: Class: HO 27; Piece: 45; Page: 19 > > Could these two be the siblings of Peter Tidbury? > There seems to be no report of them after their baptism in 1794 and > 1792 apart > from this. Can anybody prove or disprove what happened to them? > > Regards, > > Nigel

John You're looking in the wrong index. You want the England and Wales Criminal Registers 1791-1892 which can be found here: http://search.ancestry.co.uk/Browse/list.aspx?dbid=1590&path= Needless to say there are quite a few Tidburys. In the Michaelmas Session of 1833 Samuel, William and Charlotte Tidbury were all convicted of larceny and sentenced to seven years' transportation. Unfortunately no ages are given. This could be William b.1792 and Charlotte b.1794 but I don't know who Samuel is. Debbie

John I have just looked up my records regarding deaths in Islington and found theses which *may* relate to the Francis/Eliza family. Henry age 0 4th qtr 1850 ref 3 812 Francis Walter age 0 4th qtr 1850 ref 3 810 Eliza 3rd qtr (age not stated) 1856 ref 1b 113 No sign of father Francis. Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: "john lewis" <zen57162@zen.co.uk> To: <eng-hampshire-kingsclere@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 5:58 PM Subject: Re: [King] Francis TWITCHEN = Eliza TIDBURY

Hi John. hope this is what you need, Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: "john lewis" <zen57162@zen.co.uk> To: <eng-hampshire-kingsclere@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 5:58 PM Subject: Re: [King] Francis TWITCHEN = Eliza TIDBURY > On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 09:25:53 +1000 > "Joe Twitchin" <jo.boy@bigpond.com> wrote: > >> Just a little input re Francis and Eliza (nee Tidbury)1851 he living >> at 17 Albany Place Isington with wife Eiza and at same address is Wm >> and Chatlotte Tarrant also from Micheldever. > > Hi Joe > even with that help I still cannot find them in the 1861 census, if you > are using the Ancestry transcription what is the exact spelling of > your input into the search fields please. > > > -- > John Lewis > Debian & the GeneWeb genealogical data server > --------------------------------------- >>From Kingsclere. ALL SURNAMES IN CAPITAL LETTERS PLEASE. > --------------------------------------- > If you get unsubscribed and did not ask to be unsubscribed, please email > eng-hampshire-kingsclere-admin@rootsweb.com > --------------------------------------- > Make sure your Anti Virus Protection is updated and do a weekly backup of > your files. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 17:38:50 +0100 Nigel St C Gerdes <nigel.gerdes@milnet.uk.net> wrote: > Hi List, > > Following on from the finding of Peter Tidbury as Peter Tedbury at > Worplesham, Surrey in the 1851 census and the recent e-mail thread > one decided to search on his partner/wife Charlotte. > > Up came for Berkshire Michaelmas Term 1833 seven years transportation > for Charlotte and William Tidbury. The two entries are concurrent and > the same crime of larceny. > > Source Citation: Class: HO 27; Piece: 45; Page: 19 > > Could these two be the siblings of Peter Tidbury? > There seems to be no report of them after their baptism in 1794 and > 1792 apart from this. Can anybody prove or disprove what happened to > them? I can only find this entry William Tidbury Age: 24 Year: 1835 Birth Place: Berkshire State: Nsw Status: S Ship: Lady Nugent Occupation: Farm servt so too young to be the one born in 1794, no entry for Charlotte in same "Australian Convict Index" on Ancestry -- John Lewis Debian & the GeneWeb genealogical data server

Hi List, Following on from the finding of Peter Tidbury as Peter Tedbury at Worplesham, Surrey in the 1851 census and the recent e-mail thread one decided to search on his partner/wife Charlotte. Up came for Berkshire Michaelmas Term 1833 seven years transportation for Charlotte and William Tidbury. The two entries are concurrent and the same crime of larceny. Source Citation: Class: HO 27; Piece: 45; Page: 19 Could these two be the siblings of Peter Tidbury? There seems to be no report of them after their baptism in 1794 and 1792 apart from this. Can anybody prove or disprove what happened to them? Regards, Nigel

Hi Barbara You put me in touch with your Tidbury friend a couple of years ago now and I have all the details of her tree in my database. Her line goes back to an Elizabeth Tidbury b. c.1830 in Egham. Elizabeth was the daughter of William Tidbury, a labourer, but so far we've not been able to take the line back any further or connect it with the other Berkshire/Hampshire Tidburys. Best wishes Debbie

> On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 06:49:24 EDT Hi List, Two points on John's great find on Peter Tidbury as Peter Tedbury in the 1851 census. 1) Worplesdon is in Surrey. Ancestry.co.uk strikes again at data mangling. We all make mistakes but Ancestry turns it into an an art form. :-) 2) There are two more Tidbury families (couples) in the next two houses. The older couple (next door) has Agron? Tidbury (Ag Lab) age 60 b Berks Bradford (sic) [should that be Bradfield] and his wife Sarah (Laundress) age 58 b Worplesdon, Surrey. A family link between Peter and Agron perhaps? Regards, Nigel PS The other Tidbury couple are helpfully staying the H/H of their brother in law George and with wife Harriet Wheeler and the Henry Tidbury age 24 with his wife Ann age 21 might be a son of Agron. John wrote: > > If we now accept the marriage entry recording Eliza's father as Peter > Tidbury as being correct then who was he. We know there was a Peter bapt > on 20 Nov 1803 in the Kingsclere St. Mary register but he is the only > Peter Tidbury I know about. > > Peter Tidbury and wife Charlotte are recorded as lodgers in household > of Charles & Sarah Miles at Rydes Hill, Worplesdon Kent in 1851. Peter > born ca1804 Sidmonton and Charlotte ca1820 Barnack Leics (true to form > the Ancestry transcription has surname as Tedbury) > > There is no marriage entry on FreeBMD or on the IGI and I haven't found > him in 1841 to know if he had any children. > > He could be the Peter given as father of Eliza but there are no > entries in HBapI for children of any Peter Tidbury and he would be > rather young at only 19 years of age in 1822.

On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 12:08:00 +0100 Bob Hutchins <bob@bobhutchins.me.uk> wrote: > > > That does confirm Francis was the one born in Micheldever in 1817 > > > This might explain him missing on Census 1861 > Re Marriage, this time though he is listed as Francis Walter, but > Father is again Richard - Publican as with the first marriage. > > Name: Francis Walter Twitchin Age: Full Age Spouse Name: Emma Nicholls > Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 21 Apr 1861 Parish: Saint Pancras > Parish Church County: Middlesex Borough: Camden Father Name: Richard > Twitchin Spouse Father Name: Thomas Nicholls This could be him: Deaths Dec 1867: Twitching Francis Walter, 49, Clerkenwell 1b 439 and Eliza with same surname a few years earlier Deaths Sep 1856: TWITCHING Eliza, Islington 1b 113 there is an Emma Twitchin, widow, 38, domestic servant born Wallingford living in Union Square Islington in 1871. She is still a servant in Hornsey in 1881. In 1901 she is in District St Mary Islington Workhouse age 69. Deaths Mar 1904: TWITCHEN Emma, 71, Islington 1b 143 this looks like her in the 1841 Census for Wallingford Thos Nicholls 45 John Nicholls 45 Hunman Nicholls 13 Emma Nicholls 7 Matilda Nicholls 6 Joseph Frances 75 Martha Frances 35 and possibly: THOMAS NICHOLS, Christening: 08 DEC 1797, Wokingham, Father: JOHN NICHOLS, Mother: CHARLOTTE Thomas is a lodger, widr, 53, farm lab, Wokingham in Twickenham in 1851 Ancestry has birthplace as Hollingham) and this possibly his demise Deaths Jun 1856: Nichols Thomas, Brentford 3a 46 -- John Lewis Debian & the GeneWeb genealogical data server

H i Jo and John, Thanks to both of you for the correct identification of Francis Twitchen as being from Micheldever, Hants . I could not find the census data so I am still none the wiser as to where Eliza came from. Regards, Nigel > Hello John, > Just a little input re Francis and Eliza (nee Tidbury)1851 he living at 17 > Albany Place Isington with wife Eiza and at same address is Wm and > Chatlotte Tarrant also from Micheldever. > Joe > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "john lewis" <zen57162@zen.co.uk> > To: <eng-hampshire-kingsclere@rootsweb.com> > Cc: <eng-hampshire-kingsclere@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 7:29 AM > Subject: Re: [King] Francis TWITCHEN = Eliza TIDBURY > > > On Mon, 21 Sep 2009 15:53:59 +0100 > > Nigel St C Gerdes <nigel.gerdes@milnet.uk.net> wrote: > > I have that Francis dying in 1833!! I cannot find him in any census nor > > can I find any Francis with a wife Eliza in 1861. Have you managed to > > find him? > > > > -- > > John Lewis > > Debian & the GeneWeb genealogical data server > > --------------------------------------- > > >From Kingsclere. ALL SURNAMES IN CAPITAL LETTERS PLEASE. > > --------------------------------------- > If you get unsubscribed and did not ask to be unsubscribed, please email > eng-hampshire-kingsclere-admin@rootsweb.com > --------------------------------------- > Make sure your Anti Virus Protection is updated and do a weekly backup of > your files. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message