I too am looking for a RANDALL - Hannah born about 1790, she married John Blackford 26 Mar 1812 at Burghclere. I have just found an entry on the Ancestry Index which has a ROSE Hannah Randall 1792 which is part of someone's Family Tree. Among other names mentioned is MINNS. This has made me wonder if this Rose Hannah is mine. Hannah's daughter Elizabeth Blackford b 1826 at East Woodhay married George James MINNS at Hook in 28th May 1849. The 1851 census says Hannah was born Highclere but I cant find her on the PR. Hannah was buried at Highclere Oct 1851.so I cant check other census. I've seen several mentions of RANDALL on the list over the last few weeks and hope that you will please keep my ROSE HANNAH in mind when you are researching. Regards Sheila NSW ----- Original Message ----- From: "beverley anne smith" <jm.ba.smith@talktalk.net> To: <eng-hampshire-kingsclere@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 9:19 PM Subject: [King] Attn;John Lewis (NEW SURNAME) > Good morning John > I have a marriage that might interest you our Elizabeth Randall b 25th May > 1823 m Henry New on the 3 Jan 1842 at Kintbury ,Witnesess were sister > Caroline and brother in law John Mills > his Father looks like Israel New a labourer, on census he states he was > born at Kingsclere. > Regards Beverley > --------------------------------------- >>From Kingsclere. ALL SURNAMES IN CAPITAL LETTERS PLEASE. > --------------------------------------- > If you get unsubscribed and did not ask to be unsubscribed, please email > eng-hampshire-kingsclere-admin@rootsweb.com > --------------------------------------- > Make sure your Anti Virus Protection is updated and do a weekly backup of > your files. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello all . Has anyone researched  the ROLFE ,S of Kingsclere family history .I am a descendant of one branch of the family who were mainly resident in the Dell , and have traced them back to SAMUAL ROLFE . He is listed as being married to MARY or MARIA  RE.and having two children SARA and JOSEPH but I am unable to get anything earlier. I would  be grateful of any assistance.  thanks                                     BRUCE ROLFE

Good afternoon John A bit more information added below. Also I hope to get the Caroline Randall to John Mills marriage soon .I hope to have the results of some more research soon so will keep you posted. Regards Beverley ----- Original Message ----- From: "john lewis" <zen57162@zen.co.uk> To: "beverley anne smith" <jm.ba.smith@talktalk.net> Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 7:39 PM Subject: Re: [King] Attn;John Lewis (NEW SURNAME) > On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 10:19:07 -0000 > "beverley anne smith" <jm.ba.smith@talktalk.net> wrote: > >> Good morning John >> I have a marriage that might interest you our Elizabeth Randall b >> 25th May 1823 m Henry New on the 3 Jan 1842 at Kintbury ,Witnesess >> were sister Caroline and brother in law John Mills his Father looks >> like Israel New a labourer, on census he states he was born at >> Kingsclere. > > Thanks Beverley, have added that marriage and some other children from > census entries plus burials of Elizabeth in 1902 and Henry in 1876. > > Also added parents for Elizabeth - William ca1785-1857 and Sarah Hill > ca1789-ca1871 who married at Kintbury in Oct 1817 WITNESSES; DAVID WATTS, JAMES FAVEL,This WILLIAM we think is the son of JOHN RANDALL & MARY PLUMB who married at Kintbury 25th Sept 1774 > > IGI has another child for William & Sarah, George ca1818 (he died 3rd Oct > 1819 at Kintbury > > Added marriage of Caroline & John Hill at (probably) Kintbury in Sep > Qtr 1841, there don't seem to have been any children. Caroline died > 1893 and John 1883.CORRECTION ITS JOHN MILLS we can't find any children > either. > > Please let me know of any errors/additions to the above > > -- > John Lewis > Debian & the GeneWeb genealogical data server -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.58/2493 - Release Date: 11/09/09 19:40:00

Good morning John I have a marriage that might interest you our Elizabeth Randall b 25th May 1823 m Henry New on the 3 Jan 1842 at Kintbury ,Witnesess were sister Caroline and brother in law John Mills his Father looks like Israel New a labourer, on census he states he was born at Kingsclere. Regards Beverley

Hello All, Ancestry have the London Parish Records, you may have ancestors that lived there. Baptisms 1813-1906 just enter the surname this will bring up all of the Baptisms under that name, double pages. Marriage & Banns 1754 - 1921 there are 4 marriages on a page and you can print of the Marriage Certificates Death & Burials 1813-1980 copies of the original burials double pages. Browsable are BMD you have to select the name of the place where you want to research, outside of London Happy Hunting Barbara Lewis Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants. UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk List Admin

I noticed a picture of my great great Aunt Esther NORTH on your website John (Lewis), and I am curious to see if there are more of my relatives buried in that graveyard. Do you know if there is a list of burials either at the church , or the person who took the photos at that graveyard wouldn't mind taking a few more? Jeff

On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 19:08:31 +0000 Nigel St C Gerdes <nigel.gerdes@milnet.uk.net> wrote: > John and list, > > I would not jump to conclusions on the parents of James DANCE for you > also have for consideration: > > James Dance baseborn to Hannah Dance baptised 24 May 1778 at > Ramsbury. Wilts, (much closer than Farnborough, Hants ) or James > baptised 21 Sept 1777 Winterbourne Stoke, Wilts to John and Ann > Dance and born 28 Aug 1777. Actually Farnborough, Berks so a little way north of Chieveley. I did look at the other James Dance you list. The baseborn one fits closest as far as birth date is concerned so it would help to know who Hannah's parents were, if her father was a Joseph that would help. It was the fact of naming first child Joseph that led me away from the Hurstbourne Tarrant one (plus the 1841 Census) > I would suggest these leads need to be followed up before any > conclusion can be drawn on the identity of the first James Dance to > appear in Kingsclere. James and Rebecca Dance nee Foster did have a > daughter called Hannah. A local single name study on Dance might be > the only way to sort them out. > > Also we have the following from Basingstoke Museum (Auctioneers' > Posters) : > > Finding No 10M57/C105 > Title Kingsclere: malthouse called 'Edmond's Strip'. dwelling house, > 2 acres of meadow land, cottage in the occupation of James Bryant, > retailer of beer, cottage called 'Birds' in the occupation of James > Dance > > Date 1841 > > A look at the 1841 census should show the county in which James was > or was not born. It says not born in Hampshire > If there are records for the cottage it might show where James b ca > 1778 came from unless the James described in the poster was his son b > ca 1804. -- John Lewis Debian & the GeneWeb genealogical data server

Hi Nigel Thanks for the info.  Do Edmond's Strip and Birds Cottage still exist?  If so, are they actually in Kingsclere?   Regards Pat   --- On Wed, 28/10/09, Nigel St C Gerdes <nigel.gerdes@milnet.uk.net> wrote: From: Nigel St C Gerdes <nigel.gerdes@milnet.uk.net> Subject: Re: [King] Family History - DANCE To: eng-hampshire-kingsclere@rootsweb.com Date: Wednesday, 28 October, 2009, 7:08 PM John and list, I would not jump to conclusions on the parents of James DANCE for you also have for consideration: James Dance baseborn to Hannah Dance baptised 24 May 1778 at Ramsbury. Wilts, (much closer than Farnborough, Hants  ) or James baptised 21 Sept 1777 Winterbourne Stoke, Wilts  to John and Ann Dance and born 28 Aug 1777. I would suggest these leads need to be followed up before any conclusion can be drawn on the identity of the first James Dance to appear in Kingsclere.  James and Rebecca Dance nee Foster  did have a daughter called Hannah.  A local single name study on Dance might be the only way to sort them out. Also we have the following from Basingstoke Museum (Auctioneers' Posters) : Finding No 10M57/C105 Title Kingsclere: malthouse called 'Edmond's Strip'. dwelling house, 2 acres of meadow land, cottage in the occupation of James Bryant, retailer of beer, cottage called 'Birds' in the occupation of James Dance Date 1841 A look at the 1841 census should show the county in which James was or was not born.  If there are records for the cottage it might show where James b ca 1778 came from unless the James described in the poster was his son b ca 1804. Regards, Nigel > On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 12:35:28 +0000 > > john lewis <zen57162@zen.co.uk> wrote: > > Among descendants is a James born 24 Mar 1782 and baptised on 14 > > Jun 1782 at Hurstbourne Tarrant to John & Sarah Holdway, who married > > in HT on 20 Sep 1777. > > > > I am wondering if he could be the James who married Rebecca Foster in > > Kingsclere. I have James buried at St. Paul on 16 Feb 1848 age 70 > > which would make him born ca1778. > > Further digging has produced this James: > > JAMES DANCE, Christening: 03 AUG 1783, Farnborough, Berks > Father: JOSEPH DANCE, Mother: MARY > > Given James called his first born Joseph and had a daughter named Mary > it looks like a good bet. Parents marriage is also in an IGI batch > > JOSEPH DANCE & MARY NEWS, 11 MAY 1783, Farnborough, Berks > > no other children in the Farnborough batch and nothing for birth of > Joseph on IGI and no obvious burials in BBI. > > Farnborough isn't all that far from Kingsclere Woodlands and > farmers did move around quite a bit so until someone finds a better > James I'm going with this one --------------------------------------- >From Kingsclere. ALL SURNAMES IN CAPITAL LETTERS PLEASE. --------------------------------------- If you get unsubscribed and did not ask to be unsubscribed, please email eng-hampshire-kingsclere-admin@rootsweb.com    --------------------------------------- Make sure your Anti Virus Protection is updated and do a weekly backup of your files. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

John and list, I would not jump to conclusions on the parents of James DANCE for you also have for consideration: James Dance baseborn to Hannah Dance baptised 24 May 1778 at Ramsbury. Wilts, (much closer than Farnborough, Hants ) or James baptised 21 Sept 1777 Winterbourne Stoke, Wilts to John and Ann Dance and born 28 Aug 1777. I would suggest these leads need to be followed up before any conclusion can be drawn on the identity of the first James Dance to appear in Kingsclere. James and Rebecca Dance nee Foster did have a daughter called Hannah. A local single name study on Dance might be the only way to sort them out. Also we have the following from Basingstoke Museum (Auctioneers' Posters) : Finding No 10M57/C105 Title Kingsclere: malthouse called 'Edmond's Strip'. dwelling house, 2 acres of meadow land, cottage in the occupation of James Bryant, retailer of beer, cottage called 'Birds' in the occupation of James Dance Date 1841 A look at the 1841 census should show the county in which James was or was not born. If there are records for the cottage it might show where James b ca 1778 came from unless the James described in the poster was his son b ca 1804. Regards, Nigel > On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 12:35:28 +0000 > > john lewis <zen57162@zen.co.uk> wrote: > > Among descendants is a James born 24 Mar 1782 and baptised on 14 > > Jun 1782 at Hurstbourne Tarrant to John & Sarah Holdway, who married > > in HT on 20 Sep 1777. > > > > I am wondering if he could be the James who married Rebecca Foster in > > Kingsclere. I have James buried at St. Paul on 16 Feb 1848 age 70 > > which would make him born ca1778. > > Further digging has produced this James: > > JAMES DANCE, Christening: 03 AUG 1783, Farnborough, Berks > Father: JOSEPH DANCE, Mother: MARY > > Given James called his first born Joseph and had a daughter named Mary > it looks like a good bet. Parents marriage is also in an IGI batch > > JOSEPH DANCE & MARY NEWS, 11 MAY 1783, Farnborough, Berks > > no other children in the Farnborough batch and nothing for birth of > Joseph on IGI and no obvious burials in BBI. > > Farnborough isn't all that far from Kingsclere Woodlands and > farmers did move around quite a bit so until someone finds a better > James I'm going with this one

On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 12:35:28 +0000 john lewis <zen57162@zen.co.uk> wrote: > Among descendants is a James born 24 Mar 1782 and baptised on 14 > Jun 1782 at Hurstbourne Tarrant to John & Sarah Holdway, who married > in HT on 20 Sep 1777. > > I am wondering if he could be the James who married Rebecca Foster in > Kingsclere. I have James buried at St. Paul on 16 Feb 1848 age 70 > which would make him born ca1778. Further digging has produced this James: JAMES DANCE, Christening: 03 AUG 1783, Farnborough, Berks Father: JOSEPH DANCE, Mother: MARY Given James called his first born Joseph and had a daughter named Mary it looks like a good bet. Parents marriage is also in an IGI batch JOSEPH DANCE & MARY NEWS, 11 MAY 1783, Farnborough, Berks no other children in the Farnborough batch and nothing for birth of Joseph on IGI and no obvious burials in BBI. Farnborough isn't all that far from Kingsclere Woodlands and farmers did move around quite a bit so until someone finds a better James I'm going with this one -- John Lewis Debian & the GeneWeb genealogical data server

On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 12:35:28 +0000 john lewis <zen57162@zen.co.uk> wrote: > I think Pat's grandfather is Henry born ca1883 in Newbury, son of > Charles Albert and Charlotte (1891 Census) or Clara (1901 census), > cannot find a marriage on FreeBMD to confirm her name so am hoping > Pat has the details Pat has now told me Charles Albert married Charlotte Maria Lawrence but haven't yet had a chance to look for the marriage. The children I found are the ones Pat has, but my marriage of Henry (Leonard) to Alice Chandler is incorrect. He actually married in 1914, at St. Mark, Cold Ash, an Evelyn Davis and they had one son Leonard Charles, born on 27 March 1915. Henry Leonard was killed at Ypres in 1917 Name: DANCE, HENRY L. Initials: H L Nationality: United Kingdom Rank: Private Regiment/Service: Durham Light Infantry Unit Text: 12th Bn. Age: 32 Date of Death: 16/07/1917 Service No: 54125 Additional information: Husband of Evelyn Dance, of 95, Shaw Rd., Newbury, Berks. Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 36 and 38. Memorial: YPRES (MENIN GATE) MEMORIAL -- John Lewis Debian & the GeneWeb genealogical data server

On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 11:20:39 +0000 (GMT) MICHAEL BAYLISS <mabayliss@btinternet.com> wrote: > I have in my tree various members of the CUMMINGS/ CUMMINS family, > through intermarriage with my BRADLEY family from Ashford Hill.  One > of them, Stanley CUMMINGS (b.1896), married Mary Matilda DANCE > (b.1914) on 27 December 1941 at Saint Paul, Woodlands.  Her parents > were Henry DANCE and Emily Elizabeth HARRIS, married in 1912. I don't > know whether this Henry might be the same person as Pat's grandfather > Henry Leonard? Mike  Hello Mike I think Pat's grandfather is Henry born ca1883 in Newbury, son of Charles Albert and Charlotte (1891 Census) or Clara (1901 census), cannot find a marriage on FreeBMD to confirm her name so am hoping Pat has the details Henry ca1883 married about June 1918, Alton RD, to Alice H Chandler and had Henry L ca1920 and Hilda J ca1921 both born in Farnham RD. Again I'm hoping Pat will confirm these are her ancestors. Looking into the Dance family this morning I've found a whole group of them in Hurstbourne Tarrant going back to a Humphrey who married Anne Andrews there on 2 Oct 1701. Among descendants is a James born 24 Mar 1782 and baptised on 14 Jun 1782 at Hurstbourne Tarrant to John & Sarah Holdway, who married in HT on 20 Sep 1777. I am wondering if he could be the James who married Rebecca Foster in Kingsclere. I have James buried at St. Paul on 16 Feb 1848 age 70 which would make him born ca1778. -- John Lewis Debian & the GeneWeb genealogical data server

I have in my tree various members of the CUMMINGS/ CUMMINS family, through intermarriage with my BRADLEY family from Ashford Hill.  One of them, Stanley CUMMINGS (b.1896), married Mary Matilda DANCE (b.1914) on 27 December 1941 at Saint Paul, Woodlands.  Her parents were Henry DANCE and Emily Elizabeth HARRIS, married in 1912. I don't know whether this Henry might be the same person as Pat's grandfather Henry Leonard?   Mike  --- On Tue, 27/10/09, R BRIND <rbrind@btinternet.com> wrote: <snipped>... "My Grandfather was Henry Leonard DANCE, whose father was Charles Albert DANCE, who was the son of John DANCE and Ellen PEARCE, John's father was James DANCE who ran 'The  Plough' at Headley, which is now a private house called 'The Old Plough'.  Hope someone can give more information."

On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 21:44:54 +0000 (GMT) R BRIND <rbrind@btinternet.com> wrote: > My name is Pat Brind (nee DANCE).  My Kingsclere family interest is > DANCE.  My Grandfather was Henry Leonard DANCE, whose father was > Charles Albert DANCE, who was the son of John DANCE and Ellen > PEARCE, John's father was James DANCE who ran 'The  Plough' at > Headley, which is now a private house called 'The Old Plough'. Hope > someone can give more information. Regards Pat Brind James' wife Rebecca Foster was a second cousin of my 2xgt-grandfather. You can find this Dance family on the "Kingsclere Families" website here:- http://startx.co.uk:2317/Kingsclere?i=1441 if you have anything to add to what is there I'll be happy to include your data. -- John Lewis Debian & the GeneWeb genealogical data server

Hi My name is Pat Brind (nee DANCE).  My Kingsclere family interest is DANCE.  My Grandfather was Henry Leonard DANCE, whose father was Charles Albert DANCE, who was the son of John DANCE and Ellen PEARCE, John's father was James DANCE who ran 'The  Plough' at Headley, which is now a private house called 'The Old Plough'.   Hope someone can give more information.   Regards Pat Brind 

Rather than regurgitate my work periodically, I think newcomers to the list should be encouraged to make effective use of the archives: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/ENG/ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE.html Whilst I am happy to share my findings with all interested parties, I take exception to the 'lifting' of complete blocks of my research that have appeared subsequently on other websites without my prior knowledge or consent. Dorothy

1923 Jan 5 Commenced on Wednesday morning after the Christmas Holidays ... Jan 12 ... The three children of Mr WATTS of the Dell were sent home on Monday morning by the Doctor's orders as they had not yet properly recovered from the measles. Received from the Education Comtee [sic] a piano on Monday morning. Jan 19 ... another outbreak of coughs & colds among the younger scholars. Jan 26 Received half a score of puffs on Tuesday morning which was paid for from Petty Cash Account. Feb 2 Coughs & colds have again broken out among the children of the Upper Classes & a good deal of irregularity is noticeable this week ... Feb 9 Two galvanized tanks were erected this week to supply water to the lavatory. Wednesday and Thursday mornings were very wet ... Feb 16 ... The weather has been better this week ... Mar 2 Another epidemic of colds & coughs has broken out among the children this week & the attendance has suffered in consequence ... The Attendance Officer called today & warned Charles SOPP for irregular attendance. Mar 16 This week has been stormy ... Charles SOPP has been more regular since being warned. Lilian SMITH has been absent during the whole of the week owing to a death in the family. Sent to Mrs BRIDGES on Thursday informing her that her son Philip appeared to be suffering with ringworm on the forehead and requesting her to get Dr MAPLES' advice regarding his attendance at school. Philip returned on Friday saying the Doctor had given him permission to attend. ... Mar 23 Philip BRIDGES has continued at [sic] this week no further suspicion of ringworm having developed. Mar 29 ... The Head Teacher after serving for thirty eight years in the School took leave of his Scholars & Teachers this morning owing to his retirement on March 31st/23. THE END Dorothy Jones" <dee-jay@jones2115.fsnet.co.uk

1922 Jan 13 Commenced after the Xmas [sic] on Monday Jan 9th ... Five boys in the First Division left under age limit, and the three ADAMS boys through removal from the district. ... Jan 20 ... one or two very wet mornings ... The new Caretakers Mr & Mrs OEHME are performing their duties in a satisfactory manner. Feb 3 This week has been very stormy ... Feb 10 ... G. PRIOR has now been absent for six weeks. ... Feb 17 ... there are still children in the Upper Division who have been absent the whole week through illness. ... Two children from the Union were admitted on Thursday morning. Feb 24 ... Several children have been absent during the greater part of the week through coughs and colds. ... Feb 28 A whole holiday was given today by special request of the King on the occasion of the marriage of Princess Mary. Mar 3 ... several of the Upper Class scholars in the Boys' Room have been absent the greater part of the week through influenza. ... Mar 6 The Head Teacher was unfortunately unable to come to School on this day owing to influenza. Mar 31 The Hd Teacher returned to duty on Monday March 27th/22 after an absence of three weeks viz from March 6th to March 27th. The school during that period was carried on by the assistant Mr BULL. On Thursday March 16 Miss LLOYD Certificated Assistant in the Infants' Class was absent through illness her place being taken on Monday March 20th by Mrs M.R. PADLEY Certificated Temporary Teacher from Twyford Berks. Mrs PADLEY continued her duties till this afternoon March 31. Owing to the illness of both the Hd Teacher & the Assistant no set lessons as required to be entered in the Record Book could be arranged and the Term's Exam was confined to the three R's. ... Apr 7 There was no school on Monday owing to the room being used for the Election of District Councillors. Miss LLOYD returned to her duties on Tuesday morning after being absent through illness from March 16th till March 31st. On Tuesday morning the attendance especially in the Infants' Room, was very low owing to the heavy fall of snow on Monday which covered the ground to the depth of three or four inches. Owing to the slushy state of the roads on Wednesday the boys from a distance were unable to get to school ... Owing to the absence of Miss LLOYD the children under her care were not examined until this week. ... May 12 ... Received notice of Classes for Teachers in Physical Exercises to be held at Burghclere on May 20th & succeeding Saturdays. Posted names of Teachers likely to attend to the Director of Education as requested on form. ... May 19 The Attendance Officer called on Thursday morning and reported he had received an application for an employment form from Mrs SIMPSON in respect of her son Frank. ... Jun 17 ... On Wednesday the Assistant Mr BULL was granted leave of absence to attend his brother's wedding. ... Jun 23 ... William & Henry PRATER have both been absent through impetigo on their faces. Jun 30 Report of HMI Mr E. WYNN WILLIAMS School inspected on 29 May 1922 ... The demeanour of the scholars reflects great credit on the Head Master, who has now rendered good service in this school for nearly 40 years. Jul 14 Although this week has been stormy the attendance has been better than in any previous week of the present term. Reginald POWERS & Frank MARRINER left at the end of the term ending June 30th and their names have been removed from the registers. ... Aug 4 ... Closed this afternoon for the Summer Holidays. ... Sep 15 Commenced school on Monday Sept 11 after the Summer holidays ... Two names in the Boys' Room have been taken off the books one leaving under age limit & the other being taken into an orphanage. The County Nurse for the Kingsclere District came this morning & examined the children. Thomas POWERS in the Infants' Room was sent home for having a verminous head. ... Sep 22 Posted the forms for the Eye Clinic on Wednesday to Dr LYSTER for the children who are attending on Monday for sight xamination. ... Sep 29 Sent children with defective eyesight to the Eye Clinic at the Village Club on Monday viz W. CHALK & A. CARNEGIE. Freda COLENUTT being too unwell to attend. ... Oct 6 ... Reginald FORD has been unable to attend this week owing to illness. ... Nov 3 Owing to two wet mornings this week the boys from a distance were absent ... The Head Teacher was unable to attend school on Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday owing to illness. The work of the School was therefore left to the Assistant Master Mr BULL who carried out his duties in an efficient manner. Nov 10 ...Reginald FORD returned on Tuesday having been too ill to attend last week. Nov 17 About a third of the children in the Infants' Room have been absent during the latter half of the week through coughs & lds. ... Several boys in St IV & V have been kept back this week through careless work. Dec 1 There is still a great deal of illness among the children the coughs & colds having spread to the Upper School this week. ... Dec 15 The children who have been absent during the past fortnight through sickness came back on Monday ... Dec 22 ... There has been a good deal of sickness among the Upper Classes this week ... Closed this afternoon for the Christmas Holiday. Dorothy Jones" <dee-jay@jones2115.fsnet.co.uk > ==== ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE Mailing List ==== > ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-L-request@rootsweb.com This is an IN and > OUT system. subscribe to join and unsubscribe to leave. > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in > the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

Hello Everyone, Dorothy Jones sent 3 messages about Kingsclere Boys' School Log Books - 1921 in 2006. As the List is quiet, I thought you may like to read them, sorry if you have read them before. Barbara Lewis Mallyon List Admin 1921 Jan 14 Opened school on Monday ...There are still several children suffering through Impetigo who have been excluded. William & Edward SMITH of North St., Frank MILES, Joan and Richard MORTIMER and Thomas KEEP. ... Jan 21 None of the children excluded last week has returned to school. ... Jan 28 ... The Nurse came in on Tuesday, and excluded two children one for dirty head & the other for impetigo. ... Feb 4 The Assistant Mr BULL was unable to attend to his duties this afternoon owing to a severe attack of rheumatism in the leg. ... Feb 11 Mr BULL was unable to attend to his duties till Wednesday morning when he came as usual. ... The two SMITHs were not in a fit state to return on Monday. Stanley WELLMAN & William SMITH were absent yesterday and today through illness. There are still several children suffering with Impetigo. ... Feb 18 ... William PRATER & Frank MILES have not yet returned to school. Feb 25 Took Henry PRATER's name off the books for the time being as he is in a London Hospital for some weeks. His brother William is still suffering from impetigo & has not been to school again this week. ... Mar 4 Frank MILES & William PRATER returned to school on Monday. The Nurse called on Thursday morning. Fred POWERS was sent home as his head was verminous. He returned however in the afternoon. ... Mar 11 ...Cecil WELLMAN has been excluded by the Doctor's orders, and four other boys in this department were absent this Friday orning. ... Mar 18 There has been no change in the attendance this week ... Mar 24 Closed for Easter Holidays to Monday 29th. [DJ note: Confusion on recorded dates.] Apr 1 Finished up the work of the Term's Examination this morning and closed for the Easter Holidays till April 11th. Average for the week 90.6. Mrs WESTON has not attended School this week owing to an attack of Influenza. Apr 15 Opened school on Monday ... Mrs WESTON returned on Monday after her illness. ... Apr 22 Nearly half of the children in the Infants' Room have been absent throughout the week having contracted coughs & colds during the cold spell of the previous week. ... Apr 29 ... many children are still suffering from severe colds & coughs. The Nurse looked in on Wednesday and Thursday. Francis & George POWERS were both sent home as their heads were verminous but they returned the following day after having them cleaned ... May 6 Several of the children who have been absent through coughs & colds returned to school on Monday ... Several Standard IV boys have had to stay after school hours during the past week for careless work. The work throughout this class is so much below the average owing to the number of dull boys, that special attention has had to be given to them since their removal from Standard III. May 13 Received from Philip & Tacey one dozen each of courses 1 to 5 of Practical Arithmetic, Drawing & Modelling also two dozen tubes of liquid glue. As no Teachers' Books were sent for instruction in carrying out the proposed Scheme a letter was sent to the Director of Education asking for a copy for each Standard. An answer was received this morning saying that no further help regarding books could be given. Until these books for Teachers are supplied it will not be possible to introduce the Scheme. ... Closed this afternoon May 13 for Whitsun Holidays. May 27 School re-opened on Monday ... The School Nurse came on Wednesday and examined the Infants. Notices were sent to the Parents of children needing attention. Jun 3 Alfred ROSE asked leave for a month as he was going to Wales to an aunt. He said he should be attending school there, in consequence of which his name has been taken off the books for the time eing. ...The Nurse called on Thursday and examined the boys. George POWERS was sent home with a dirty head. Jun 17 The Attendance Officer called on Wednesday & took the names of absentees. S. HUNT, S. WELLMAN, C. SEYMOUR & R. FLUX have been irregular this week. ... Jun 24 Alfred ROSE, who went to South Wales a month ago returned to school this week. ... Jul 1 The following boys, each fourteen years of age left school this afternoon to take up work in the village. Cecil SEYMOUR, Samuel HUNT and Cecil WELLMAN. Received from the Edu: office Winchester today four copies of Syllabus, Record & Progress Books for use throughout the school. ... Jul 8 ... On Friday (today) Miss LLOYD was granted leave of absence owing to her brother's wedding. ... Jul 15 ... Owing to the intense heat during the whole week, very little drill & physical exercises have been taken. ...Received a certificate from Dr MAPLES on Wednesday excluding Sidney WICKENS for fourteen days owing to skin disease. Jul 22 The half holiday proposed for the Sunday School Treat on Thursday was not given this week owing to the death of Mr W. OLDING. ... Jul 29 Owing to the death of Mr W. HOLDING of Elm Grove the Sunday School Treat which was postponed took place on Thursday afternoon this week ... Aug 5 ... Commenced on Tuesday with only a very fair attendance partly owing to a heavy rain storm before school time. ... Closed this afternoon for the Summer holidays Aug 8 to Sep 12th. Sep 16 Commenced school on Monday Sept 12 ... The children throughout the school were very clean and neat and settled down to their work in earnest. A note was received from Mrs FOSTER stating that her son Clifford was not returning from his holiday till the end of the week. The School Nurse called on Tuesday and found the boys in a very satisfactory condition with the exception of Reginald POWERS who was sent home to have his head cleaned. He returned in the afternoon. Owing to the satisfactory way the scholars had settled down to their work they were rewarded by having the school closed at 4.10 pm this afternoon. ... Sep 23 The attendance this week has been the best for the present School Year the percentage rising to 97.48. On Monday and Tuesday the Head Teacher was unable to attend school owing to illness his place being ably filled by Mr BULL who had charge of the whole of the Boys' Department. The scholars worked diligently and gave no trouble. On Wednesday morning Nurse PLUMER visited the Infants' Room and reported very favourably upon the condition of the children. Sep 30 ... Received cheque for Salaries this Friday morning & paid out to teachers & Caretaker. Oct 14 Owing to irregularity of some of the scholars who went to Newbury Fair on Thursday the attendance dropped to 93.1 this week. The Attendance Officer called today & took names of absentees. The scholars were allowed twenty minutes football this afternoon as a reward for good work done throughout the week. Oct 21 ... Owing to the rain on Wednesday morning just before school commenced, several of the country boys came in later than usual. Oct 28 Received notice that Richard MORTIMER would not be able to attend school for three months owing to injury to his knee. His name has been taken off the books for the time being. Nov 4 The percentage dropped to 94.03 this week owing to the wet weather. The Attendance Officer called on Tuesday morning and brought employment cards for Stanley WELLMAN and Gilbert FAULKNER. Nurse PLUMER examined children on Tuesday morning, and found each child in a satisfactory condition. Received certificate from Dr MAPLES on Wednesday exempting Richard MORTIMER from attending school for fifty days owing to injured knee. Eight boys in the First Division were absent today owing to the rain. Nov 11 ... The latter part of the week has been very cold - the physical exercises have therefore been to a great extent taken in school. Owing to the snow on Tuesday morning one or two of the country boys did not attend school. Nov 18 Inspected the offices this afternoon and found them in a satisfactory condition except in the Infants' urinal, which requires attention, the drain pipe being broken. ... Nov 25 ... Among the absentees were Sydney WICKENS suffering from tooth ache, Reginald POTTER from a sore foot, Percy BROWN sick headache and Stanley FAULKNER sores on leg. Dec 2 Mr BULL has been unable to attend school since Monday owing to the serious illness of his wife. and himself. [The last two words were obviously added at a later stage in paler ink.] There is a good deal of illness among the children attending the Infants' Department ... Dec 12 Mr BULL has not been able to return to his duties this week. Received post card from the Director of Education on Friday requesting a Medical Certificate to be sent to the Education Office by return of post. The certificate was posted on this afternoon. There is still a good deal of sickness among the younger children which has caused the percentage to drop to 82.1. The Upper Division of the School has had to work independently to a great extent this week owing to the absence of Mr BULL. The scholars have been very attentive to their work and have been doing their best to lighten the work of the Head Teacher, who has been working single handed since Nov 28th. Dec 16 Mr BULL has been unable to attend school this week. Yesterday Thursday he brought another medical certificate saying he would not be in a fit state to return to his duties till after the Xmas olidays. ... The scholars in the upper division of the school have again been of great help through their good behaviour & attention to their work. Dec 23 Closed this Friday morning for the Christmas Holidays. Dorothy Jones" <dee-jay@jones2115.fsnet.co.uk

Dear List, I agree with John about his first point. I made no comment on the veracity of the detail contained at the link. If you continue down the hits provided by Google there is another site that contains a considerable amount on the Norris family of Yattendon and the data does seem to have more substance to it, subject to validation, since it is not referenced to primary sources. Anyway I can now 'claim' to be related to Mary Norris since my own family is supposed to be related to Strongbow de Clare, but I very much doubt I could ever prove it, while in this world. As for being related to Adam and Eve that's easy, I have a primary source for it, but your mileage may differ on that one, and I would respect all views. Time to stop. Regards, Nigel St Clair Gerdes > On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 23:22:29 +0100 > > Nigel St C Gerdes <nigel.gerdes@milnet.uk.net> wrote: > > If you put - Norris family Newbury - into Google, she is the first > > reference that comes up. > > > > There was a wealthy Norris family in Newbury who I think gave their > > name to Hampstead Norris. There was a Sir William Norris of Yattendon > > ca 1480. > > > > And this link has even more detail; > > > > http://genforum.genealogy.com/norris/messages/6207.html > John wrote: > however much else in that link is accurate this sort of thing has me > doubting > > > At Tudorplace.com there is a data base of the royal families using > > the Dictionary of National Biography (1891) as its primary source. > > and the Register of Maryland's Heraldic Families, page 279 that Mary > > was the granddaughter of Sir Henry II Norreys and he is the > > > > DESCENDANT OF CHARLEMAGNE, ALFRED THE GREAT, WILLIAM THE CONQUEROR, > > HENRY I, EMPRESS MATILDA, HENRY II, KING JOHN, EDWARD I, EDWARD III, > > JOHN OF GAUNT, STRONGBOW DE CLARE, SIR WILLIAM MARSHALL, AND LADY > > GODIVA > > > > DESCENDANT OF MALCOLM III, DAVID I, WILLIAM THE LION, THE ANCIENT > > KINGS OF SCOTLAND, LADY MACBETH, AND SOMERLED LORD OF THE ISLES > > > > DESCENDANT OF KING LOUIS VII OF FRANCE AND ELEANOR OF AQUITAINE > > > > DESCENDANT OF LLEWELYN THE GREAT PRINCE OF WALES, AND IRELAND'S > > GREATEST KING BRIAN BORU > John wrote: > I'm amazed they haven't claimed descent from Adam & Eve as some royal > genealogies do ;-)