On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 19:34:02 -0000 "John Stevens" <john.stevens27@virgin.net> wrote: > I am trying to obtain a copy of the baptismal entry of David Palmer > Stevens who was apparently baptised in Ecchinswell on 20th March > 1818, apparently the illegitimate son of Mary Stevens. > > It seems that the registers for Ecchinswell are not available on > Ancestry.co.uk so can anyone kindly advise me where the registers - > or copies thereof - might reside please? The Ecchinswell baptisms at that time were included in the baptism register for St, Mary, Kingsclere. The registers were deposited with Hampshire Records Office at Winchester and if you are unable to visit there you could email them to ask for a printout of the relevant page from the fiche. David Palmer Stevens was indeed baptised on 20 Feb 1818 and is entry 399 in the register. It reads May 20th (1818) David Palmer illegitimate son of Mary Stevens Ecchinswell Spinster Jno Mitchell Vicar Mary subsequently married George Taylor on 16 Sep 1820, also I have assumed at St Lawrence, Ecchinswell. -- John Lewis Debian & the GeneWeb genealogical data server

Hello. I am trying to obtain a copy of the baptismal entry of David Palmer Stevens who was apparently baptised in Ecchinswell on 20th March 1818, apparently the illegitimate son of Mary Stevens. It seems that the registers for Ecchinswell are not available on Ancestry.co.uk so can anyone kindly advise me where the registers - or copies thereof - might reside please? In passing, if anyone on this list has a personal interest in the Stevens family of Ecchinswell I would be delighted to hear from them. Many thanks John Stevens

by the way john did you go to kingsclere school in the 50tys ________________________________ From: John Stevens <john.stevens27@virgin.net> To: ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, 18 November, 2009 19:34:02 Subject: [King] Ecchinswell Parish Registers Hello. I am trying to obtain a copy of the baptismal entry of David Palmer Stevens who was apparently baptised in Ecchinswell on 20th March 1818, apparently the illegitimate son of Mary Stevens. It seems that the registers for Ecchinswell are not available on Ancestry.co.uk so can anyone kindly advise me where the registers - or copies thereof - might reside please? In passing, if anyone on this list has a personal interest in the Stevens family of Ecchinswell I would be delighted to hear from them. Many thanks John Stevens --------------------------------------- >>From Kingsclere. ALL surnames in CAPITAL letter please. Christian name Lawrence surname LAWRENCE. --------------------------------------- If you get unsubscribed and did not ask to be unsubscribed, please email eng-hampshire-kingsclere-admin@rootsweb.com  --------------------------------------- Make sure your Anti Virus Protection is updated and do a weekly backup of your files. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi John Most records are at the Hampshire Records Office Sussex Rd Winchester Ihave done quite a lot of research there . It is free and staff very helpful. ring first to reserve limited car parking. ----- Forwarded Message ---- From: John Stevens <john.stevens27@virgin.net> To: ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, 18 November, 2009 19:34:02 Subject: [King] Ecchinswell Parish Registers Hello. I am trying to obtain a copy of the baptismal entry of David Palmer Stevens who was apparently baptised in Ecchinswell on 20th March 1818, apparently the illegitimate son of Mary Stevens. It seems that the registers for Ecchinswell are not available on Ancestry.co.uk so can anyone kindly advise me where the registers - or copies thereof - might reside please? In passing, if anyone on this list has a personal interest in the Stevens family of Ecchinswell I would be delighted to hear from them. Many thanks John Stevens --------------------------------------- >From Kingsclere. ALL surnames in CAPITAL letter please. Christian name Lawrence surname LAWRENCE. --------------------------------------- If you get unsubscribed and did not ask to be unsubscribed, please email eng-hampshire-kingsclere-admin@rootsweb.com  --------------------------------------- Make sure your Anti Virus Protection is updated and do a weekly backup of your files. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Dorothy. Abraham is not a name I am familiar with in my branch of the ROLFE family . who was his father and mother ,he may have been one of the offspring of the children of john ROLFE and sarah BENNETT. either william --john  or james. . ________________________________ From: Dorothy Jones <dee-jay@jones2115.fsnet.co.uk> To: eng-hampshire-kingsclere@rootsweb.com Sent: Fri, 13 November, 2009 20:12:00 Subject: Re: [King] ROLFE FAMILY Hi Bruce I, too, have an interest in the ROLFE family of The Dell through the marriage of Elizabeth MARTIN to Abraham ROLFE in 1808. Have you seen John LEWIS's website: http://startx.co.uk:2317/Kingsclere Dorothy Jones ----- Original Message ----- From: "bruce rolfe" <arolfebruce@yahoo.co.uk> To: <eng-hampshire-kingsclere@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 6:19 PM Subject: [King] ROLFE FAMILY Hello all . Has anyone researched the ROLFE ,S of Kingsclere family history .I am a descendant of one branch of the family who were mainly resident in the Dell , and have traced them back to SAMUAL ROLFE . He is listed as being married to MARY or MARIA RE.and having two children SARA and JOSEPH but I am unable to get anything earlier. I would be grateful of any assistance. thanks BRUCE ROLFE --------------------------------------- >From Kingsclere. ALL surnames in CAPITAL letter please. Christian name Lawrence surname LAWRENCE. --------------------------------------- If you get unsubscribed and did not ask to be unsubscribed, please email eng-hampshire-kingsclere-admin@rootsweb.com  --------------------------------------- Make sure your Anti Virus Protection is updated and do a weekly backup of your files. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Bob, Thanks so much for this I'm amazed to have this information so quickly. Would the fact that the children were baptised in Newtown suggest that their parents came from there originally but were now residing in Burghclere? Kind regards Maddy -----Original Message----- From: eng-hampshire-kingsclere-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-hampshire-kingsclere-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Bob Hutchins Sent: 16 November 2009 21:07 To: eng-hampshire-kingsclere@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [King] EYLES Hi Maddy William Eyles Bpt 09 Apr 1815 in neighbouring village Newtown notes state of Burghclere Parents Matthew & Martha Siblings Martha 26 oct 1823 Newtown of Burghclere Sarah Ann 22 Feb 18718 Newtown of Burghclere Bob -- Genealogy Web Database http://www.bobhutchins.me.uk http://www.roberthutchins.me.uk Bob recommends Linux Ubuntu 9.10 On Mon, 2009-11-16 at 19:56 +0000, Maddy Duke wrote: > Hi > > I am new to this list and am searching for the family of William EYLES who, > according to census returns (1851 - 1881), was born in Burghclere, Hants. I > would be very grateful for any leads on him. From the census returns he was > born about 1815. > > Kind regards > > Maddy Duke > > > > --------------------------------------- > >From Kingsclere. ALL surnames in CAPITAL letter please. Christian name Lawrence surname LAWRENCE. > --------------------------------------- > If you get unsubscribed and did not ask to be unsubscribed, please email eng-hampshire-kingsclere-admin@rootsweb.com > --------------------------------------- > Make sure your Anti Virus Protection is updated and do a weekly backup of your files. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------------- >From Kingsclere. ALL surnames in CAPITAL letter please. Christian name Lawrence surname LAWRENCE. --------------------------------------- If you get unsubscribed and did not ask to be unsubscribed, please email eng-hampshire-kingsclere-admin@rootsweb.com --------------------------------------- Make sure your Anti Virus Protection is updated and do a weekly backup of your files. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Maddy My typo for Sarah Ann should read 1818 In 1841 there is this family living in Speen with the rounding of the ages as occurred in 1841 and child Martha listed as not born in county (Berkshire) which possibly ties in with the baptism, it could be William's Parents Household Members: Name Age Matthew Eyles 55 Martha Eyles 55 Martha Eyles 15 There is a burial in St. Mary's Speen 16 Dec 1849 Matthew Eyles aged 66 BMD Entry Name: Matthew Eyles Year of Registration: 1849 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec District: Newbury County: Berkshire, Hampshire Volume: 6 Page: 163 Bob -- Genealogy Web Database http://www.bobhutchins.me.uk http://www.roberthutchins.me.uk Bob recommends Linux Ubuntu 9.10 On Mon, 2009-11-16 at 19:56 +0000, Maddy Duke wrote: > Hi > > I am new to this list and am searching for the family of William EYLES who, > according to census returns (1851 - 1881), was born in Burghclere, Hants. I > would be very grateful for any leads on him. From the census returns he was > born about 1815. > > Kind regards > > Maddy Duke > > > > --------------------------------------- > >From Kingsclere. ALL surnames in CAPITAL letter please. Christian name Lawrence surname LAWRENCE. > --------------------------------------- > If you get unsubscribed and did not ask to be unsubscribed, please email eng-hampshire-kingsclere-admin@rootsweb.com > --------------------------------------- > Make sure your Anti Virus Protection is updated and do a weekly backup of your files. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Maddy William Eyles Bpt 09 Apr 1815 in neighbouring village Newtown notes state of Burghclere Parents Matthew & Martha Siblings Martha 26 oct 1823 Newtown of Burghclere Sarah Ann 22 Feb 18718 Newtown of Burghclere Bob -- Genealogy Web Database http://www.bobhutchins.me.uk http://www.roberthutchins.me.uk Bob recommends Linux Ubuntu 9.10 On Mon, 2009-11-16 at 19:56 +0000, Maddy Duke wrote: > Hi > > I am new to this list and am searching for the family of William EYLES who, > according to census returns (1851 - 1881), was born in Burghclere, Hants. I > would be very grateful for any leads on him. From the census returns he was > born about 1815. > > Kind regards > > Maddy Duke > > > > --------------------------------------- > >From Kingsclere. ALL surnames in CAPITAL letter please. Christian name Lawrence surname LAWRENCE. > --------------------------------------- > If you get unsubscribed and did not ask to be unsubscribed, please email eng-hampshire-kingsclere-admin@rootsweb.com > --------------------------------------- > Make sure your Anti Virus Protection is updated and do a weekly backup of your files. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have Mary Coteral in my tree, believed born 1718. She married William Jennings of Sherborne St John. I have looked at various records and found Cottrells (and variations of this name) in and around Basingstoke. There are records of Sarah Cottrell buried at Kingsclere 1737, and it is possible she was Mary's sister. Does anyone have any Cottrells from around this time or earlier in their family tree? Pam

Hi I am new to this list and am searching for the family of William EYLES who, according to census returns (1851 - 1881), was born in Burghclere, Hants. I would be very grateful for any leads on him. From the census returns he was born about 1815. Kind regards Maddy Duke

Hi All, Stephen Smith b ca 1777 (from age at death) was my 3X Great Grandfather, he married Elizabeth Chees(e)man on 26 Feb 1810 at Thatcham, Berks. Can anybody prove or disprove that Elizabeth was the daughter of Richard and Ann Cheeseman b ca 1758 nee Hussey? Elizabeth was baptised at St Mary Beenham on 11 May 1793. Elizabeth Smith died some time after 1814 and it was a second marriage for Stephen after his first wife Frances Crate Wickes died in 1809 and was buried at Burghclere on 02 Jun 1809. Stephen died in 1828 with a given age of 51. Thanks in advance for your interest and help. Regards, Nigel Gerdes PS. Frances Crate might have been WIX rather than WICKES. So far I have been unable to trace her parents.

Hissey could be misspelled. The name Hussey is to be found in the area and indeed there was an Elizabeth Hussey baptised 13 June 1766 at Beenham, Berks to John and Sarah Hussey nee Champ who in turn had been married 20 July 1752 at Bradfield, Berks. The details of the siblings of Elizabeth b ca 1766 are to be found on the website of John Lewis at: http://startx.co.uk:2317/Kingsclere?i=51697 (Use the 'up arrow' at top right of the displayed page to regain the main menu) Elizabeth has no spouse shown on John's site at the moment so the prospect of a potential link between the Hussey family and the Lovelocks will be of great interest to the Hussey researches who frequent the Eng-Hampshire-Kingsclere rootsweb list. Thus I am sending additionally this reply to the Eng- Hampshire-Kingsclere list. Regards, Nigel Gerdes > Could this be the Elizabeth L bap 24 Jun 1798 at Beenham, parents James > L and Elizabeth Hissey, who marr Beenham 13 Oct 1791? Elizabeth is right > at the end of the Beenham, Berks tree: > http://perso.numericable.fr/~lovjames/family-history/lovelock/fragments/Bee >nham-Berks.html or on the PhpGedView site you'll find the family at: > http://james.loveluck.free.fr/PGV/family.php?famid=F2&ged=Beenham-Berks.ged > > James > > Dianne Brown wrote the following on 16/11/2009 10:17: > > Does anyone know about the parents of an Elizabeth L, born in Beenham who > > married John Brooks in 1820 in Woolhampton? Dianne > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > Lovelock family history Web pages: > http://perso.numericable.fr/~lovjames/family-history/lovelock/ > Browse Lovelock trees on the PhpGedView portal: > http://james.loveluck.free.fr/PGV/ > -------------------------------

Hello Pam.   I have a 4x great-grandmother Sarah COTTERALL, whom I presume to be the Sarah COTTEREL (sic) baptised on 22 June 1734 at Kingsclere with parents Francis & Sarah COTTEREL.  She married Stephen BIRD on 16 November 1755 at St Mary, Kingsclere.  I am aware of other COTTERALL/ COTTERELL/ COTTRELL names in the Kingsclere area around this time, but have no idea how they relate to each other, or to Sarah.   Regards, Mike --- On Mon, 16/11/09, Pam Sykes <pamela@jimandpamsykes.plus.com> wrote: I have Mary Coteral in my tree, believed born 1718 <snipped>.  Does anyone have any Cottrells from around this time or earlier in their family tree?

The surname HISSEY may well *not* be mispelled. My partner has HISSEY ancestors, so recorded, in the Stanford-in-the-Vale area of Berkshire, where it also appears as HIZZEY.   Mike --- On Mon, 16/11/09, Nigel St C Gerdes <nigel.gerdes@milnet.uk.net> wrote: Hissey could be misspelled. The name Hussey is to be found in the area and indeed there was an Elizabeth Hussey baptised 13 June 1766 at Beenham, Berks  to John and Sarah Hussey nee Champ who in turn had been married 20 July 1752 at  Bradfield, Berks.

Hello John. Many thanks for the information. I do hope this is my Hannah RANDALL but I'm not sure how I will prove it. The two marriage entries you sent me from Free BDM has me intrigued. > I found the marriage of Elizabeth Blackford (eventually) on FreeBMD: > Marriages Jun 1849: Minns George, Kingston 4 256 > Marriages Jun 1849: Blackford Elizabeth Hannah, Kingston 4 399 I have the Cert for the marriage of George MINNS to Elizabeth BLACKFORD but the cert. makes no mention of a second name Hannah. May 28th 1849 at Hook. Reg. Dist Kingston. This is my George his sister and brother in law Mary and Thomas EDWARDS were witnesses. Fathers George MINNS & John BLACKFORD. > Emma ca 1850 Kingston > George ca 1852 ( Born 28th May 1851 Southwark my ancestor) > Anna ca 1856 Kingston > Jane ca 1861 Hampton > Henry ca 1863 Hampton Married Emma KIDD June Q 1897 I have them on all of the census. George was a Domestic coachman and I think his employer probably had homes in both Hampton & Southwark and they travelled back and forth. From the census I haven't found his employers name. In 1871 they were at Grove Cottage Hampton. In 1881 he is in Mayfair and I think he was working for Lord Curzon. I am gathering up lots of details I need and when I'm ready I will have a look at the entry I found on Ancestry and see where the MINNS name fits in. This way I can pay for a sub. now and again. It doesn't make such a big hole in my pension. I did most of my census research the hard way, on film at my LDS, but I'm so glad Ancestry are now putting a lot of the PR on their site. Regards Sheila NSW

On Sun, 15 Nov 2009 11:06:30 +0000 john lewis <zen57162@zen.co.uk> wrote: > On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 10:22:23 +1100 > "Sheila Tutton" <tutton@fishinternet.com.au> wrote: > > > I too am looking for a RANDALL - Hannah born about 1790, she married > > John Blackford 26 Mar 1812 at Burghclere. > > > > I have just found an entry on the Ancestry Index which has a ROSE > > Hannah Randall 1792 which is part of someone's Family Tree. > > Among other names mentioned is MINNS. This has made me wonder if > > this Rose Hannah is mine. > > IGI batch P018931 has this entry: > ROSE HANNAH RANDAL, Christening: 08 JUL 1792 Kingston Lisle, Berks > Father: WILLIAM RANDAL, Mother: SARAH > > and batch M018931 has this marriage: > WILLIAM RANDAL & SARAH HULCUP, 25 FEB 1792, Kingston Lisle > with several other children in batch P018931 > > the same batch has > WILLIAM RANDAL, Christening: 29 MAY 1768, Kingston Lisle, Berks > Father: RICHARD RANDAL, Mother: MARY > > and another marriage > RICHARD RANDAL & MARY COMPTON, Marriage: 24 AUG 1767, Kingston Lisle, > Berks > > and this looks like an illegitimate child for Rose Hannah: > ELIZA RANDALL, Christening: 03 SEP 1809, Kingston Lisle, Berks > Mother: ROSANNA RANDALL > > I am going to add these two families to my database in the hope we > may eventually be able to connect the Hannah of Highclere to Rose > Hannah of Kingston Lisle, OOPS! I think I should have looked further at those Kingston Lisle marriages as there is this entry which would seem to rule out Rose Hannah as a candidate for Hannah of Highclere. ROSANNA RANDAL & WILLIAM BUTLER, 14 MAY 1821, Kingston Lisle, Berks and this looks like that family in Kingston Lisle in 1841 William Butler 60 Hannah Butler 50 John Butler 20 Mary Butler 14 Sarrah Butler 12 a William Butler age 77 was buried at Sparsholt on 27 Mar 1853 which roughly fits the 1841 William. A Rosana Butler, widow age 70 born Kingsbone Boyle, Berk was a lodger in Habergham Eaves, Lancashire in 1861 but I haven't found her in 1851. -- John Lewis Debian & the GeneWeb genealogical data server

On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 10:22:23 +1100 "Sheila Tutton" <tutton@fishinternet.com.au> wrote: > I too am looking for a RANDALL - Hannah born about 1790, she married > John Blackford 26 Mar 1812 at Burghclere. > > I have just found an entry on the Ancestry Index which has a ROSE > Hannah Randall 1792 which is part of someone's Family Tree. > Among other names mentioned is MINNS. This has made me wonder if > this Rose Hannah is mine. IGI batch P018931 has this entry: ROSE HANNAH RANDAL, Christening: 08 JUL 1792 Kingston Lisle, Berks Father: WILLIAM RANDAL, Mother: SARAH and batch M018931 has this marriage: WILLIAM RANDAL & SARAH HULCUP, 25 FEB 1792, Kingston Lisle with several other children in batch P018931 the same batch has WILLIAM RANDAL, Christening: 29 MAY 1768, Kingston Lisle, Berks Father: RICHARD RANDAL, Mother: MARY and another marriage RICHARD RANDAL & MARY COMPTON, Marriage: 24 AUG 1767, Kingston Lisle, Berks and this looks like an illegitimate child for Rose Hannah: ELIZA RANDALL, Christening: 03 SEP 1809, Kingston Lisle, Berks Mother: ROSANNA RANDALL I am going to add these two families to my database in the hope we may eventually be able to connect the Hannah of Highclere to Rose Hannah of Kingston Lisle, I found the marriage of Elizabeth Blackford (eventually) on FreeBMD: Marriages Jun 1849: Minns George, Kingston 4 256 Marriages Jun 1849: Blackford Elizabeth Hannah, Kingston 4 399 but tracing her through Census was tricky due to variant transcriptions of that Minns surname (and still haven't found them in 1871) but have found 5 children Emma ca 1850 George ca 1852 Anna ca 1856 Jane ca 1861 Henry ca 1863 -- John Lewis Debian & the GeneWeb genealogical data server

Hello Bruce and All, Elizabeth JEWELL married George MILES 12 December 1849 St. Mary's Church, Kingsclere. Elizabeth's brother is James Henry JEWELL he married Elizabeth Jane ROLF 25 March 1865 St. Mary's Church, Kingsclere. My 2C4R George HOLLEY married Sarah Louisa ROLF 27 May 1882 St. Mary's Kingsclere they had 11 children. Is anyone else researching these families. Kind regards Barbara Lewis Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants. UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk

Hi Bruce I, too, have an interest in the ROLFE family of The Dell through the marriage of Elizabeth MARTIN to Abraham ROLFE in 1808. Have you seen John LEWIS's website: http://startx.co.uk:2317/Kingsclere Dorothy Jones ----- Original Message ----- From: "bruce rolfe" <arolfebruce@yahoo.co.uk> To: <eng-hampshire-kingsclere@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 6:19 PM Subject: [King] ROLFE FAMILY Hello all . Has anyone researched the ROLFE ,S of Kingsclere family history .I am a descendant of one branch of the family who were mainly resident in the Dell , and have traced them back to SAMUAL ROLFE . He is listed as being married to MARY or MARIA RE.and having two children SARA and JOSEPH but I am unable to get anything earlier. I would be grateful of any assistance. thanks BRUCE ROLFE