In response to Barbara’s roll-call request, Kingsclere surnames I am currently interested in are:     BRADLEY (Ashford Hill & Frilsham, Berks);  MILES (line of Benjamin MILES & Mary BIRD:  their surname is often recorded as ‘MYHILL’);  BIRD;  COTTERALL;  ILSLEY.    The BRADLEY family also links by marriage to  BRIDG(E)MAN, BUTLER, CUMMIN(G)S, GIRDLER, GOSLING, HATHAWAY, MAY, WAKE & WISE, and by extension to other well-established local Kingsclere names.   Regards, Mike --- On Fri, 8/1/10, Barbara Mallyon <BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk> wrote: We have had some new subscribers to Kingsclere since the last Roll Call, so please join in and let us all know the names of the ancestors that you are researching.

We too are enjoying a calm, sunny day, but we are stuck at home as we have one and a half metres of snow - cars have not been out of the garage since 17th December - very grateful for our deep freezes. I have been delighted in being able to discover two long distant cousins during last year, one even came up here to stay.! I enjoyed your visit David. Regards to all on the wonderful list. Beryl Shackleton nee SAVERY.

Hello everyone My surname list with occurrences of 10 persons or more are APPLETON; ARLOTT; ASTLETT; BOMAN; BOWMAN; DICKER; ENGLEFIELD; JOSEY;MARKS; MONGER; PAGE; RICKETTS; SANDFORD; SIMPSON; SMITH; STOVOLD; TULL; WEST; WESTON. Regards Margaret Bowman

Hi Here in the west of Scotland we have been basking in sunshine but cold at night, below are family's attached to my main family the Hussey's from 1750's to date.   England, Hampshire and Berkshire   Hussey, Smith, Summersby, Hunt, Philips, Huntly, Woodhouse, Day, Cox, Hockly, Mattingly, Whale, Coaker, Warwick, Englefield and Coles.

Hello Everyone, Hope those of you living in the UK are all surviving and keeping warm in this cold snowy weather. We have had some new subscribers to Kingsclere since the last Roll Call, so please join in and let us all know the names of the ancestors that you are researching. Some of you who have been on the list for a few years and have joined in previous Roll Calls, there must be new names that you have added to your family tree. These are my two main family lines of my research and many more names connected to them. Joseph MILES and Martha BRIDGMAN MILES line. HOLLOWAY, LAWRENCE, SEYMOUR, TARGET, JEWELL, COLLINS, BARTHOLOMEW John HOLLY, TAYLOR, HAYWARD, ROSE, POWERS, BRIDGMAN, HARRIS, MAJOR, ROLFE, SMITH, WATTS, LAWRENCE, HITCHCOCK, Kind regards Barbara Lewis Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants. UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk List Admin

Hello Vanda, You are still subscribed, the Kingsclere List has been very quiet over Christmas and the New Year. Best wishes Barbara Lewis Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants. UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: <vandaadamson@aol.com> To: <eng-hampshire-kingsclere@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 11:18 AM Subject: Re: [King] Subscribe > > Hello and thank you for your email. I think I may have been > unintentionally unsubscribed. If so, perhaps you would be kind > enough to re-subscribe > me (if that is the correct term)! > > Many thanks indeed > > Vanda Adamson

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Hello and thank you for your email. I think I may have been unintentionally unsubscribed. If so, perhaps you would be kind enough to re-subscribe me (if that is the correct term)! Many thanks indeed Vanda Adamson

Happy Christmas to all Kingsclere researchers.  I do hope the UK subscribers are coping with the snow and difficult driving conditions Eileen Barnes

Good morning All Firstly a Merry Christmas to all. With reference to the above my research started because of inheriting a rare syndrone "Ehlers-Danlos Syndrone" It was suggested I trace as many death certs and people possible . Have certainly learnt a lot. Till later Regards Beverley Smith

An exciting development in the world of genetic genealogy is the ability to use autosomal DNA tests with the potential to track the inheritance of particular diseases and traits. There is an excellent article in the current (fall/autum) issue of the Journal of Genetic Genealogy, a peer-reviewed publication, which explains how the process works: http://www.jogg.info/52/files/Turner.htm The cost of these tests is still quite high but as the tests become cheaper it should be possible for people to use this technology in their own family history research by testing extended members of their family. Debbie Kennett

Hello Everyone, Christmas is nearly here, so before you all get into the Christmas Spirit and forget about the family tree, I would like to say "thank you for all of the interesting message from you all to the List". This List has some very knowledgeable researchers that usually manage to sort out our family tree problems for us, many thanks to you. Have a Happy Christmas and every good wish for a very Happy, Healthy and Prosperous New Year. Best wishes Barbara and Roger Lewis Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants. UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk List Admin

Hello Debbie and Nigel, Thank you for your messages. I will pass your information onto Dorothy, she will be pleased with the FT information. It is good to know that Moorfield's Eye Hospital are looking into these eye diseases and are helped by genealogists and their research of their ancestors. Kind regards Barbara Lewis Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants. UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: <debbiekennett@aol.com> To: <eng-hampshire-kingsclere@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 8:41 PM Subject: Re: [King] Re MILES, POCOCK, LEE, MARSHALL > > > There is another very similar research project being run at the > Moorfields > Eye Hospital in collaboration with the Society of Genealogists > which is > looking at a specific type of glaucoma: > > http://www.societyofgenealogists.com/society-of-genealogists-members-help-in > -genetic-genealogy-research > > There was an article about the project in the current issue of the > SOG > journal. > > Debbie Kennett

There is another very similar research project being run at the Moorfields Eye Hospital in collaboration with the Society of Genealogists which is looking at a specific type of glaucoma: http://www.societyofgenealogists.com/society-of-genealogists-members-help-in -genetic-genealogy-research There was an article about the project in the current issue of the SOG journal. Debbie Kennett

Barbara and List, Just to extend the tree back a little - Hannah Pocock b ca 1773 was the daughter of Samuel Pocock and Sarah Mariner who married (IGI) 10 May 1773 at Kingsclere. Samuel would based on age at death in 1826 have been born ca 1752. Pocock is a very common name in North Hampshire and Berkshire. It might be worth asking if anybody in the Pocock family has RP via the Thatcham community website. Pocock seems to have an epicentre for frequency in the 1800's around Thatcham and Newbury. I have two near neighbours with RP and it is a fearful disease to have to live with so Moorfields research has my full support. Noting the name uncommon name Benjamin b 1801 in the Miles tree there is a Benjamin born ca 1732 to a Pocock family at Thatcham on John's website. Mere coincidence or link? Regards, Nigel Gerdes > Hello Everyone, > > Retinitus Pigmentosa Eye Disease. > > This morning I spoke to Dorothy BOWMAN (non computer) she said if I > would put this message on the Kingsclere List, as it concerns some > Kingsclere family tree researchers. > > A Doctor at Moorfield's Eye Hospital, London is investigating the eye > disease. Dorothy had a telephone call from the Doctor and has been > able to help him, by sending him her MILES family tree and noting > those that suffered the blindness from the eye disease. > > The eye disease is passed down through the family lines. Dorothy's FT > starts with John MYHILL/MILES married Hannah POCOCK, > and their son Benjamin MILES married Sarah LEE, again down to their > David MILES married Eliza MARSHALL. Dorothy is not sure where RP > started with her ancestors on her FT. > > Mostly the men get the eye disease and the women appear to be the > carriers and they pass the eye disease onto the couples children > unknowingly. > > Dorothy's son has the eye disease, he and another son and relations > have and are being examined, at Moorfield's Eye Hospital and are > helping in the research. > > The Doctor at Moorfield's hopes to locate the gene/s that cause the > eye disease and eventually eradicate it, with Dorothy's families help > as guinipigs. > > If anyone has on their FT any names that connect with Dorothy's FT > and who were blind, Dorothy would like to hear from you. > Please contact me and I will give you Dorothy's telephone number or > address if you would rather write to her. > > Lets us hope that all of the Doctors research, will result in saving > people eye sight in the future. > > Kind regards > > Barbara Lewis Mallyon > Basingstoke, Hants. UK > BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk > List Admin > > > > --------------------------------------- > > >From Kingsclere. ALL surnames in CAPITAL letter please. Christian name > > Lawrence surname LAWRENCE. > > --------------------------------------- > If you get unsubscribed and did not ask to be unsubscribed, please email > eng-hampshire-kingsclere-admin@rootsweb.com > --------------------------------------- > Make sure your Anti Virus Protection is updated and do a weekly backup of > your files. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My late aunt suffered from this eye disease. In the 1950's experts asked her to do her family tree to attempt to track it.This research formed the basis of my own research. Her grandmother had been Ann Savery, born in Kingsclere. The Savery/Savory family arrived in Hampshire from Gloucestershire in about 1815 so were probably not involved. Ann Savery's mother was Hannah Goddard from an old established Kingsclere family. John Lewis's site shows possible links to other families. You need both parents to carry the gene for the disease to occur so my Scottish grandmother must also have been a carrier. Valerie Pickard -----Original Message----- From: Nigel St C Gerdes <nigel.gerdes@milnet.uk.net> To: Barbara Mallyon <BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk>; eng-hampshire-kingsclere@rootsweb.com Sent: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 13:17 Subject: Re: [King] Re MILES, POCOCK, LEE, MARSHALL Barbara and List, Just to extend the tree back a little - Hannah Pocock b ca 1773 was the aughter of Samuel Pocock and Sarah Mariner who married (IGI) 10 May 1773 at ingsclere. Samuel would based on age at death in 1826 have been born ca 752. Pocock is a very common name in North Hampshire and Berkshire. It might be orth asking if anybody in the Pocock family has RP via the Thatcham community ebsite. Pocock seems to have an epicentre for frequency in the 1800's around hatcham and Newbury. I have two near neighbours with RP and it is a fearful disease to have to live ith so Moorfields research has my full support. Noting the name uncommon name Benjamin b 1801 in the Miles tree there is a enjamin born ca 1732 to a Pocock family at Thatcham on John's website. Mere oincidence or link? Regards, Nigel Gerdes > Hello Everyone, Retinitus Pigmentosa Eye Disease. This morning I spoke to Dorothy BOWMAN (non computer) she said if I would put this message on the Kingsclere List, as it concerns some Kingsclere family tree researchers. A Doctor at Moorfield's Eye Hospital, London is investigating the eye disease. Dorothy had a telephone call from the Doctor and has been able to help him, by sending him her MILES family tree and noting those that suffered the blindness from the eye disease. The eye disease is passed down through the family lines. Dorothy's FT starts with John MYHILL/MILES married Hannah POCOCK, and their son Benjamin MILES married Sarah LEE, again down to their David MILES married Eliza MARSHALL. Dorothy is not sure where RP started with her ancestors on her FT. Mostly the men get the eye disease and the women appear to be the carriers and they pass the eye disease onto the couples children unknowingly. Dorothy's son has the eye disease, he and another son and relations have and are being examined, at Moorfield's Eye Hospital and are helping in the research. The Doctor at Moorfield's hopes to locate the gene/s that cause the eye disease and eventually eradicate it, with Dorothy's families help as guinipigs. If anyone has on their FT any names that connect with Dorothy's FT and who were blind, Dorothy would like to hear from you. Please contact me and I will give you Dorothy's telephone number or address if you would rather write to her. Lets us hope that all of the Doctors research, will result in saving people eye sight in the future. Kind regards Barbara Lewis Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants. UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk List Admin --------------------------------------- >From Kingsclere. ALL surnames in CAPITAL letter please. Christian name > Lawrence surname LAWRENCE. --------------------------------------- If you get unsubscribed and did not ask to be unsubscribed, please email eng-hampshire-kingsclere-admin@rootsweb.com --------------------------------------- Make sure your Anti Virus Protection is updated and do a weekly backup of your files. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------- >From Kingsclere. ALL surnames in CAPITAL letter please. Christian name Lawrence urname LAWRENCE. -------------------------------------- f you get unsubscribed and did not ask to be unsubscribed, please email ng-hampshire-kingsclere-admin@rootsweb.com -------------------------------------- ake sure your Anti Virus Protection is updated and do a weekly backup of your iles. ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

Hello Everyone, Retinitus Pigmentosa Eye Disease. This morning I spoke to Dorothy BOWMAN (non computer) she said if I would put this message on the Kingsclere List, as it concerns some Kingsclere family tree researchers. A Doctor at Moorfield's Eye Hospital, London is investigating the eye disease. Dorothy had a telephone call from the Doctor and has been able to help him, by sending him her MILES family tree and noting those that suffered the blindness from the eye disease. The eye disease is passed down through the family lines. Dorothy's FT starts with John MYHILL/MILES married Hannah POCOCK, and their son Benjamin MILES married Sarah LEE, again down to their David MILES married Eliza MARSHALL. Dorothy is not sure where RP started with her ancestors on her FT. Mostly the men get the eye disease and the women appear to be the carriers and they pass the eye disease onto the couples children unknowingly. Dorothy's son has the eye disease, he and another son and relations have and are being examined, at Moorfield's Eye Hospital and are helping in the research. The Doctor at Moorfield's hopes to locate the gene/s that cause the eye disease and eventually eradicate it, with Dorothy's families help as guinipigs. If anyone has on their FT any names that connect with Dorothy's FT and who were blind, Dorothy would like to hear from you. Please contact me and I will give you Dorothy's telephone number or address if you would rather write to her. Lets us hope that all of the Doctors research, will result in saving people eye sight in the future. Kind regards Barbara Lewis Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants. UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk List Admin

Hi Barbara, That is very interesting. I wonder how many people did marry with consent as minors at the age of 14, often we discount baptism's as not possibly belonging to a family as we consider the "wife" would have been too old to have children in that year! Bob -- Genealogy Web Database http://www.bobhutchins.me.uk http://www.roberthutchins.me.uk Bob recommends Linux Ubuntu 9.10 On Sun, 2009-12-06 at 11:02 +0000, Barbara Mallyon wrote: > Hello Everyone, > > At the November Meeting of the Hampshire Genealogy Society, > Basingstoke Group, we had a Genealogical Quiz and one of the questions > asked was:- > > 1754 Marriages solemnised in the Church of England became the main > form of legal marriage after Lord ???? who's Marriage Act of 1753???? > and the answer is Lord Hardwicke. > > Not knowing anything about this act, I looked it up on GOOGLE and > found it most interesting to read. > > Quote > Marriage Act 1753 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia The act came into > effect in 1754, and exempted Scotland and the Channel Islands ... took > the Act as a personal insult towards him by the Lord Chancellor Lord > Hardwicke. ... "The Scottish Case That Led to Hardwicke's Marriage > Act". ... > en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marriage_Act_1753 > > On Rootsweb Mailing Lists you often hear "he could not have got > married then, he was too young". The question now is, was he/they too > young to get married, read all about it. > > Kind regards > > Barbara Lewis Mallyon > Basingstoke, Hants. UK > BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk > > --------------------------------------- > >From Kingsclere. ALL surnames in CAPITAL letter please. Christian name Lawrence surname LAWRENCE. > --------------------------------------- > If you get unsubscribed and did not ask to be unsubscribed, please email eng-hampshire-kingsclere-admin@rootsweb.com > --------------------------------------- > Make sure your Anti Virus Protection is updated and do a weekly backup of your files. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Everyone, At the November Meeting of the Hampshire Genealogy Society, Basingstoke Group, we had a Genealogical Quiz and one of the questions asked was:- 1754 Marriages solemnised in the Church of England became the main form of legal marriage after Lord ???? who's Marriage Act of 1753???? and the answer is Lord Hardwicke. Not knowing anything about this act, I looked it up on GOOGLE and found it most interesting to read. Quote Marriage Act 1753 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia The act came into effect in 1754, and exempted Scotland and the Channel Islands ... took the Act as a personal insult towards him by the Lord Chancellor Lord Hardwicke. ... "The Scottish Case That Led to Hardwicke's Marriage Act". ... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marriage_Act_1753 On Rootsweb Mailing Lists you often hear "he could not have got married then, he was too young". The question now is, was he/they too young to get married, read all about it. Kind regards Barbara Lewis Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants. UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk

Hello Everyone, The List is quiet at the moment, most people getting ready for Christmas. Just a reminder that the Bracknell Fair is on Sunday the 31st January 2010, this is one of the biggest Family History Fairs in the South of England, well worth a visit, if you have not been there before. They do have guest Speakers during the day. Bracknell Family History Fair. Location: Bracknell Leisure Centre, Bagshot Road ( A322), Bracknell, Berkshire, RG12 9SE. Entrance Fee £3 this year Open between 10am - 5pm Car parking free. If you do visit Bracknell, most people take a packed lunch, as the small cafe takes ages to serve, due to the big queues, you can get a coffee out of the machines. Kind regards Barbara Lewis Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants. UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk List Admin