Hi all, Does anybody have details of the grandparents of Mark Watts born ca 1850 at Stockcross, nr Speen, Berks? I am trying to untangle the many Watts in the Speen area as my own family are descendants of William Watts born ca 1794 at Speen with possible (but not confirmed) parents Thomas and Mary Watts nee Deluce. What is the connection of the William Watts buried 16 July 1810 at Woodhay that Barbara indicated below? Many thanks, Nigel > Hello Roger and All, > > Mark WATTS married Martha HOLLY 11 October 1874 Kingsclere. > Martha age 19 years spinster of Kingsclere, father John HOLLEY occ > Carter, Mark WATTS age 21 years bachelor occ Carter of Kingsclere > Woodlands. Father Thomas WATTS Carter. Witnesses George HOLLEY and > Martha HOLLEY ( Martha is my 2C4R) 2nd Cousin 4 times Removed. > > Children > Rose Ann baptised 31 Jan 1875 Kingsclere, living at Headley. Named > after Martha's mother Rosa Ann BRIDGMAN > Ernest H baptised 16 Dec 1887 living at North Street Kingsclere > > Rose Ann married Arthur SMITH 13 Oct 1894 St. Mary's Church, > Kingsclere > Witnesses at Wedding James SMITH and Emily COOPER > > 1901 Census North Street, Kingsclere > Mark WATTS age 47 general labourer born Stockcross, Berkshire. Wife > Martha nee > HOLLEY age 45 Launderers Washer. Ernest age 13 Stable Lad Groom > > Have you got the burial of William WATTS age 67 years at Woodhay 16 > July 1810 > > Kind regards > > Barbara Lewis Mallyon > Basingstoke, Hants. UK > BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk >

Hello Barbara, Roger, & list On Fri, 2010-04-30 at 22:19 +0100, Barbara Mallyon wrote: > > 1901 Census North Street, Kingsclere > Mark WATTS age 47 general labourer born Stockcross, Berkshire. Wife > Martha nee > HOLLEY age 45 Launderers Washer. Ernest age 13 Stable Lad Groom Census 1911 Still Living in North Street Household Members: Mark Watts 56 Farm Labourer Martha Watts 54 Ernest Holley Watts 23 Farm Carter Census also confirms they only had the two children Two Death Entry's on GRO Name: Mark Watts Death Registration Month/Year: 1919 Age at death (estimated): 68 Registration district: Kingsclere Inferred County: Hampshire Volume: 2c Page: 262 Name: Martha Watts Death Registration Month/Year: 1926 Age at death (estimated): 70 Registration district: Kingsclere Inferred County: Hampshire Volume: 2c Page: 288 Bob -- Genealogy Database Powered by TNG on Linux Mint Server http://www.bobhutchins.me.uk http://www.roberthutchins.me.uk

Hello Roger and All, Mark WATTS married Martha HOLLY 11 October 1874 Kingsclere. Martha age 19 years spinster of Kingsclere, father John HOLLEY occ Carter, Mark WATTS age 21 years bachelor occ Carter of Kingsclere Woodlands. Father Thomas WATTS Carter. Witnesses George HOLLEY and Martha HOLLEY ( Martha is my 2C4R) 2nd Cousin 4 times Removed. Children Rose Ann baptised 31 Jan 1875 Kingsclere, living at Headley. Named after Martha's mother Rosa Ann BRIDGMAN Ernest H baptised 16 Dec 1887 living at North Street Kingsclere Rose Ann married Arthur SMITH 13 Oct 1894 St. Mary's Church, Kingsclere Witnesses at Wedding James SMITH and Emily COOPER 1901 Census North Street, Kingsclere Mark WATTS age 47 general labourer born Stockcross, Berkshire. Wife Martha nee HOLLEY age 45 Launderers Washer. Ernest age 13 Stable Lad Groom Have you got the burial of William WATTS age 67 years at Woodhay 16 July 1810 Kind regards Barbara Lewis Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants. UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk

Thank you Barbara for the welcome message, I have belonged to the list before but am back to look for my MINNS ancestors. I am also still looking for the Bapt. of John BLACKFORD about 1791. 1851 says born Highclere the 1871 says born Bo(U)hurst but I cant locate him at either place. I have his marriage, death and children. I have Matthew MINNS married Mary NEVELL 14 April 1692 at Baughurst. I think he was the father of Matthew MINNS who married Elizabeth ? and had 7 children Bapt. at Pamber between 1724 and 1737 One of their descendants married John BLACKFORD's daughter Elizabeth 28 May 1849 at Hook I would also be interested to know how others feel about continuing research back beyond the 1700's when you cant check with the census for back up of what you have found. Mine all seem to be Ag Lab's, don't write wills but don't seem to go broke or get into trouble, well only one poor chap who is recorded in the criminal records, but was found Not Guilty but there his name remains to this day. Not fair is it. I would love to hear from anyone researching these names. Regards Sheila NSW Australia

Hello Everyone, Welcome to the Kingsclere List Roger WATTS, we look forward to hearing from you on the List. ------------------ The Hampshire Genealogical Society Annual General Meeting. The Society’s A.G.M. will be held on Sunday 9 May 2010 at the Millennium Memorial Hall, Littleton, Winchester, post code SO22 6QL. The afternoon programme starts at 2pm. Guest Speaker is Colonel Iain Swinnerton, a former President of the Federation of Family History Societies. Iain is an entertaining speaker and you can be sure that his talk “Gone for a Soldier" will be both amusing and informative. Doors will be open from 12 noon to give members the chance to visit the HGS Bookstall, consult the Society’s indexes, and visit the Help Desk. There will also be a few interesting exhibitors from outside the Society. Tea, coffee and sandwiches will be available. ------------------- The National Burial Index CD, this does not include Hampshire information. HGS is working on a new marriage CD, covering the period 1670-1753. It is hoped that it will be available for the HGS Open Day. The HGS Open Day is on Sunday the 26th September 2010 at Horndean College. Further details to be announced later in the year. There is a website http://www.familyrelatives.com you may find worth looking at, to subscribe to, you do have to pay. The Kingsclere 9th Anniversary Lunch will be on Sunday 3rd October 2010 further details to be announced nearer the time. Kind regards Barbara Lewis Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants. UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk List Admin

Hello Nigel, Thank you for this information, I will pass this on to Dorothy BOWMAN (non computer), she did have Samuel's wife as Jane and have now added the surname of RICHARDSON to her FT, that I have a copy of. Dorothy's FT did not have any dates of BMD for Samuel's marriage, looking on John's website, I was surprised to see that Samuel had been married 3 times. Jane RICHARDSON was 27 years younger than Samuel. I think she must have died as a result of child birth with her son Charles, who only lived 1 day. Kind regards Barbara Lewis Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants. UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nigel St C Gerdes" <nigel.gerdes@milnet.uk.net> To: "Barbara Mallyon" <BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk>; <eng-hampshire-kingsclere@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 3:07 PM Subject: Re: [King] Baptisms Kingsclere Woodlands > Hi Everybody, > > Thanks Barbara, I noticed the father (see below) Samuel Miles had > been married > to Jane Richardson. John's website does not have parents for Jane. > The 1841 > census at Kingsclere shows she was the daughter of John and Amelia > Richardson > and the 1851 at Headley, North Hants census shows that her father > was born ca > 1808 at Brimpton, Berks and her mother at Andover , Hants ca 1810. > Jane had > older brothers Henry and George and a younger sister Sarah, all born > at > Kingsclere. Hope this helps with another two families linked. Does > anybody > have the Brimpton Baptisms to try and trace the parents of John > Richardson? > > Regards, > > Nigel Gerdes

On Mon, 5 Apr 2010 15:07:21 +0100 Nigel St C Gerdes <nigel.gerdes@milnet.uk.net> wrote: > Thanks Barbara, I noticed the father (see below) Samuel Miles had > been married to Jane Richardson. John's website does not have parents > for Jane. The 1841 census at Kingsclere shows she was the daughter of > John and Amelia Richardson and the 1851 at Headley, North Hants > census shows that her father was born ca 1808 at Brimpton, Berks and > her mother at Andover , Hants ca 1810. Jane had older brothers Henry > and George and a younger sister Sarah, all born at Kingsclere. Hope > this helps with another two families linked. Does anybody have the > Brimpton Baptisms to try and trace the parents of John Richardson? There are lots of missing parents tho' I am trying to find as many as possible using the Hants Marriage index. Unfortunately John & Amelia don't seem to have married in Hampshire nor are they recorded on the IGI I eventually found the baptism of all except Sarah in the Hants Bapt Index, just as well as the entry for Jane (bapt 2 Jun 1833) is barely readable on the PR fiche. George (bapt 14 Feb 1830) & Henry (bapt 13 Oct 1831) are OK and there is a margin note for Henry 'born Sep 9th' FreeBMD records a Sarah born Dec Qtr 1839 but I think the reason she doesn't appear in the Bapt Index is because there doesn't seem to be a baptism entry for her. At least I haven't found one yet. What is missing from Census records is baptism of an Eleanor on 25 Jun 1837 and her burial on 14 Feb 1838 All entries record abode of John as Kingsclere Common or Headl(e)y Common which is where they were living in 1851/1861/1871 I really wish Berks FHS would transcribe the Brimpton registers! There is nothing to help us on the IGI, we get some records for Thatcham & Greenham but the Brimpton records would be very useful as I am sure quite a few parents from the Ashford Hill/Headly area found it easier to get to Brimpton than to Kingsclere (until St. Pauls was built at least) -- John Lewis Debian & the GeneWeb genealogical data server

Hi Everybody, Thanks Barbara, I noticed the father (see below) Samuel Miles had been married to Jane Richardson. John's website does not have parents for Jane. The 1841 census at Kingsclere shows she was the daughter of John and Amelia Richardson and the 1851 at Headley, North Hants census shows that her father was born ca 1808 at Brimpton, Berks and her mother at Andover , Hants ca 1810. Jane had older brothers Henry and George and a younger sister Sarah, all born at Kingsclere. Hope this helps with another two families linked. Does anybody have the Brimpton Baptisms to try and trace the parents of John Richardson? Regards, Nigel Gerdes Barbara wrote: > Hello Everyone, > > Woodlands Baptism 1870 > snipped > Charles son of Samuel & Jane MILES (privately bapt) Headley Labourer > 18 February snipped > Kind regards

Hello All, Those researching the Smith family may find the following interesting. It's amazing what you find, when you are looking for something else on GOOGLE.. Search Results| CommuniGate | Smith Family Tree - Basingstoke Smith Family Tree - Basingstoke, Hants, to Canada ... James Smith was born in Basingstoke, Hampshire, and died 1829 in Basingstoke, Hampshire, England. ... 1874, Basingstoke, d September 6, 1918, Canadian Armed Forces, France ... www.communigate.co.uk/hants/smithbasing/page1.phtml - Kind regards Barbara Lewis Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants. UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk

Hello Everyone, Woodlands Baptism 1870 Sarah Ann daughter of Joseph and Sarah HAMMOND Wolverton Lane Woodlands Labourer 2 January Thomas son of Cornelius and Jane BUTLER of Fair Oak, Woodlands Labourer 9 January Albert son of Charles and Elizabeth BUTLER Plaistow Green Woodlands Labourer 13 February Charles son of Samuel & Jane MILES (privately bapt) Headley Labourer 18 February Charles William son of James and Ann BATES of Ashford Hill Labourer 20 February Woodlands Baptisms for 1873 Elizabeth daughter of James and Mary Ann HARRIS near Tan House Woodlands Labourer 25 May Sarah Jane daughter of John & Hannah SEYMOUR of Wolverton End, Woodlands Labourer 25 May Jamina Elizabeth daughter of Daniel and Sarah Jane BUTLER of Headley Woodlands Labourer 6 July Ada Harrist daughter of Walter & Harrist KEELING near Old Farm Woodlands Labourer 7 September Alfred John son of Henry & Alice FISHER Mill Green Woodlands Labourer 7 September Kind regards Barbara Lewis Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants. UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk List Admin

On Sat, 3 Apr 2010 20:05:29 EDT Gbsoper49@aol.com wrote: > > I have just come across a newspaper report, pasted below. I have only > just found the report so have not investigated in great detail but > from some comments it appears that it was the Thomas who married Amy > Fritter & who is on John's site. I think it might be the daughter > Eleanor who was murdered. The above prompted me to have a look at this family so I can add IGI Batch M157793: THOMAS JENNINGS & AMEY FLITTER, 08 MAR 1835, Thatcham, Berks Births Jun 1841: JENNINGS Eleaza, Newbury 6 212 Deaths Mar 1845: JENNINGS Eleazar, Newbury 6 164 1841 Census, Crookham Common: Thomas Jennings, 30, ag lab, Y Anny Jennings, 30, , Y James Jennings, 4, , Y Sarah Jennings, 2 , Y Eleazer Jennings, 1 Mo, , Y Jones Seymore, 10, lodger, Y 1851 Census, Cold Ash, Thatcham: Amy Johnson, head, W, 43, pauper widow of ag lab, Thatcham Thomas Fritter, brother, U, 47, farm lab pauper, -do- William Fritter, nephew, U, 29, farm lab, -do- Sarah Jennings, dau, 10, , -do- Charlotte, dau, 5, , -do- Births Jun 1845: JENNINGS Charlotte, Newbury 6 2[06][356] Deaths Mar 1845: JENNINGS Thomas, Reading 6 172 It looks like Amy re-married:- Marriages Sep 1861: Bryant Charles & Jennings Amy Ann, Newbury 2c 375 1861 Census, Highclere: Charles Bryant, head, 49, ag lab, Newtown Amey A -do-, wife, 52, , Cold Ash Berks Charles is almost certainly the Charles BRIANT, son of James & Amy, who was baptised at Newtown on 11 May 1827 James BRYANT born ca1788, Kingsclere married Amey GRIFFIN at Wickham Chapel on 7 Dec 1812 and had a couple of children in Ecchinswell then several more children in Newtown. -- John Lewis Debian & the GeneWeb genealogical data server

I have just come across a newspaper report, pasted below. I have only just found the report so have not investigated in great detail but from some comments it appears that it was the Thomas who married Amy Fritter & who is on John's site. I think it might be the daughter Eleanor who was murdered. Gerald Transcribed from the 1 April 1845 edition of The Armagh Guardian newspaper, by permission of The British Library: Execution at Reading.--The wretched man, Thomas Jennings, suffered the extreme penalty of the law on Saturday, in front of the new gaol, Reading. The criminal was tried before Mr. Baron Platt, at the Berkshire assizes, held at the above place, on the 3d ultimo, for the wilful murder of his daughter, at the village of Thatcham. At an early hour the Rev. Chaplain visited the wretched man, and remained with him until the last moments of his earthly career. Precisely at four minutes past twelve o'clock the prison bell commenced to toll. At that time the whole of the vacant ground from the gaol to the front of the railway, nearly two hundred years [sic], was literally studded with human beings, many of whom had been waiting many hours to witness the awful scene. Mr. Mitchell, superintendent of the Reading station, with Mr. Collard, chief inspector, and several of the Company's officers, were required to keep the crowd from getting upon the line. Owing to the admirable preparations made by Mr. Willats, the Mayor, who had a number of barriers erected in the Forbury, we did not hear that a single accident occurred, although the pressure was very great. About five minutes past twelve o'clock the mournful procession reached the top of the gallows, led by the chaplain, who read in a most impressive manner the burial service, the wretched man, Jennings, followed, with his eyes turned heavenwards, but we were unable to hear whether or not he responded to the prayers

On Sun, 28 Mar 2010 20:13:13 +0100 "Margaret and John Bowman" <mjbowman@mjbowman.demon.co.uk> wrote: > Frank Harold Creswell Thatcher and Jessica with children living at > Tyndale, Essex Road Basingstoke in 1911 Many thanks, don't know why I couldn't find the family the first time I tried, but got them now so can add those children I have now added marriage of Joseph Hobbs to Elizabeth Ann Deacon ca1831 in Bradfield RD, Jun Qtr 1855 and Georgiana Hobbs to William Edward Deacon ca1829 at St Paul, Woodlands on 31 Jul 1855. Witnesses: William Hobbs & Elizabeth Louisa Hobbs William was the older brother of Elizabeth Ann, both born in Thatcham to William Deacon and Hannah Stroud who married 24 Mar 1827 at Thatcham. I have also added a marriage and children for Francis James Hobbs in Mar Qtr 1869, Lambeth RD to Marie Eliza Sains?? I don't think the Emma Povey born in Staffordshire can be the right one as all census entries have her born in Kingsclere or Ashford Hill. Thanks for trying though. -- John Lewis Debian & the GeneWeb genealogical data server

There is an Emma Povey born 1831 in Staffordshire on bmdregisters.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "john lewis" <zen57162@zen.co.uk> To: <eng-hampshire-kingsclere@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2010 10:53 AM Subject: Re: [King] Kingsclere Woodlands Baptisms > On Fri, 26 Mar 2010 23:10:24 -0000 > "Barbara Mallyon" <BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk> wrote: > >> Kingsclere Woodland Baptisms >> >> Jessica Briginshaw daughter of John Richard and Emma HOBBS of Ashford >> Hill,Woodlands Labourer 28 September 1879 > > I found that entry easily enough in the Woodlands PR fiche and also > several siblings > > Alice Gertrude, bapt 7 February 1864 > Frances Emma bapt 4 Mar 1866 > Bessie Georgina, bapt 26 Jan 1868, buried 22 December 1901 > William John, bapt 13 Mar 1870, buried 18 Apr 1871 > Josephine Trinette, bapt 4 May 1873, died Jun Qtr 1917, Basingstoke > > all events at St Paul Woodlands other than the last death > > John Richard Hobbs buried at St Paul on 10 Apr 1897, having died in > Reading Hospital > > Emma Hobbs died Mar Qtr 1920 in Basingstoke > > There is a problem with who Emma actually is as FreeBMD has this > marriage, > > Marriages Dec 1863: HOBBS John & Povey Emma, Newbury 2c 503, > > but I have no trace of an Emma POVEY in my database nor is there an > entry in the Hants Bapt Index. > > She is recorded as being born in Ashford Hill ca1831 in several Census > records so it seems possible she will be found the Methodist registers > held at Reading. > > Frances Emma was married on 8 October 1894, St. Paul, Woodlands, to > William Moss Follett ca1866. His parents, John & Sarah Ann (White) > Follett are in my database already. They are living in Basingstoke in > 1901 but have no children recorded. > > Jessica Briginshaw was married on 10 June 1902, St. Paul, Woodlands, > to Frank Harold Creswell Thatcher ca1872. He was a solicitors clerks > of Basingstoke. I haven't been able to find the family in 1911 > > > -- > John Lewis > Debian & the GeneWeb genealogical data server > --------------------------------------- >>From Kingsclere. ALL surnames in CAPITAL letter please. Christian name >>Lawrence, surname LAWRENCE. > > If you get unsubscribed and did not ask to be unsubscribed, please email > eng-hampshire-kingsclere-admin@rootsweb.com > > Make sure your Anti Virus Protection is updated and do a weekly backup of > your files. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Frank Harold Creswell Thatcher and Jessica with children living at Tyndale, Essex Road Basingstoke in 1911 ----- Original Message ----- From: "john lewis" <zen57162@zen.co.uk> To: <eng-hampshire-kingsclere@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2010 10:53 AM Subject: Re: [King] Kingsclere Woodlands Baptisms > On Fri, 26 Mar 2010 23:10:24 -0000 > "Barbara Mallyon" <BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk> wrote: > >> Kingsclere Woodland Baptisms >> >> Jessica Briginshaw daughter of John Richard and Emma HOBBS of Ashford >> Hill,Woodlands Labourer 28 September 1879 > > I found that entry easily enough in the Woodlands PR fiche and also > several siblings > > Alice Gertrude, bapt 7 February 1864 > Frances Emma bapt 4 Mar 1866 > Bessie Georgina, bapt 26 Jan 1868, buried 22 December 1901 > William John, bapt 13 Mar 1870, buried 18 Apr 1871 > Josephine Trinette, bapt 4 May 1873, died Jun Qtr 1917, Basingstoke > > all events at St Paul Woodlands other than the last death > > John Richard Hobbs buried at St Paul on 10 Apr 1897, having died in > Reading Hospital > > Emma Hobbs died Mar Qtr 1920 in Basingstoke > > There is a problem with who Emma actually is as FreeBMD has this > marriage, > > Marriages Dec 1863: HOBBS John & Povey Emma, Newbury 2c 503, > > but I have no trace of an Emma POVEY in my database nor is there an > entry in the Hants Bapt Index. > > She is recorded as being born in Ashford Hill ca1831 in several Census > records so it seems possible she will be found the Methodist registers > held at Reading. > > Frances Emma was married on 8 October 1894, St. Paul, Woodlands, to > William Moss Follett ca1866. His parents, John & Sarah Ann (White) > Follett are in my database already. They are living in Basingstoke in > 1901 but have no children recorded. > > Jessica Briginshaw was married on 10 June 1902, St. Paul, Woodlands, > to Frank Harold Creswell Thatcher ca1872. He was a solicitors clerks > of Basingstoke. I haven't been able to find the family in 1911 > > > -- > John Lewis > Debian & the GeneWeb genealogical data server > --------------------------------------- >>From Kingsclere. ALL surnames in CAPITAL letter please. Christian name >>Lawrence, surname LAWRENCE. > > If you get unsubscribed and did not ask to be unsubscribed, please email > eng-hampshire-kingsclere-admin@rootsweb.com > > Make sure your Anti Virus Protection is updated and do a weekly backup of > your files. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello John and All, Just to let you all know, that who ever did the microfiche for Kingsclere and Woodlands, has taken all entries of BMD, as they were in the Parish Registers, I have microfiche for other Counties where this has not been done, for these I have to go to the relevant Record Offices. Other than Kingsclere & Woodlands, I cannot say how other Kingsclere Registration District, Parishes BMD are on microfiche. Kind regards Barbara Lewis Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants. UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "john lewis" <zen57162@zen.co.uk> To: <eng-hampshire-kingsclere@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2010 10:53 AM Subject: Re: [King] Kingsclere Woodlands Baptisms > On Fri, 26 Mar 2010 23:10:24 -0000 > "Barbara Mallyon" <BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk> wrote: > >> Kingsclere Woodland Baptisms >> >> Jessica Briginshaw daughter of John Richard and Emma HOBBS of >> Ashford >> Hill,Woodlands Labourer 28 September 1879 > > I found that entry easily enough in the Woodlands PR fiche and also > several siblings > > Alice Gertrude, bapt 7 February 1864 > Frances Emma bapt 4 Mar 1866 > Bessie Georgina, bapt 26 Jan 1868, buried 22 December 1901 > William John, bapt 13 Mar 1870, buried 18 Apr 1871 > Josephine Trinette, bapt 4 May 1873, died Jun Qtr 1917, Basingstoke > > all events at St Paul Woodlands other than the last death > > John Richard Hobbs buried at St Paul on 10 Apr 1897, having died in > Reading Hospital > > Emma Hobbs died Mar Qtr 1920 in Basingstoke > > There is a problem with who Emma actually is as FreeBMD has this > marriage, > > Marriages Dec 1863: HOBBS John & Povey Emma, Newbury 2c 503, > > but I have no trace of an Emma POVEY in my database nor is there an > entry in the Hants Bapt Index. > > She is recorded as being born in Ashford Hill ca1831 in several > Census > records so it seems possible she will be found the Methodist > registers > held at Reading. > > Frances Emma was married on 8 October 1894, St. Paul, Woodlands, to > William Moss Follett ca1866. His parents, John & Sarah Ann (White) > Follett are in my database already. They are living in Basingstoke > in > 1901 but have no children recorded. > > Jessica Briginshaw was married on 10 June 1902, St. Paul, Woodlands, > to Frank Harold Creswell Thatcher ca1872. He was a solicitors clerks > of Basingstoke. I haven't been able to find the family in 1911> > -- > John Lewis > Debian & the GeneWeb genealogical data server

On Fri, 26 Mar 2010 23:10:24 -0000 "Barbara Mallyon" <BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk> wrote: > Kingsclere Woodland Baptisms > > Jessica Briginshaw daughter of John Richard and Emma HOBBS of Ashford > Hill,Woodlands Labourer 28 September 1879 I found that entry easily enough in the Woodlands PR fiche and also several siblings Alice Gertrude, bapt 7 February 1864 Frances Emma bapt 4 Mar 1866 Bessie Georgina, bapt 26 Jan 1868, buried 22 December 1901 William John, bapt 13 Mar 1870, buried 18 Apr 1871 Josephine Trinette, bapt 4 May 1873, died Jun Qtr 1917, Basingstoke all events at St Paul Woodlands other than the last death John Richard Hobbs buried at St Paul on 10 Apr 1897, having died in Reading Hospital Emma Hobbs died Mar Qtr 1920 in Basingstoke There is a problem with who Emma actually is as FreeBMD has this marriage, Marriages Dec 1863: HOBBS John & Povey Emma, Newbury 2c 503, but I have no trace of an Emma POVEY in my database nor is there an entry in the Hants Bapt Index. She is recorded as being born in Ashford Hill ca1831 in several Census records so it seems possible she will be found the Methodist registers held at Reading. Frances Emma was married on 8 October 1894, St. Paul, Woodlands, to William Moss Follett ca1866. His parents, John & Sarah Ann (White) Follett are in my database already. They are living in Basingstoke in 1901 but have no children recorded. Jessica Briginshaw was married on 10 June 1902, St. Paul, Woodlands, to Frank Harold Creswell Thatcher ca1872. He was a solicitors clerks of Basingstoke. I haven't been able to find the family in 1911 -- John Lewis Debian & the GeneWeb genealogical data server

Hello Barbara, Nigel and all Edwin's real name (GRO) and also entered by himself on the census return in 1911 is Edwin Septimus Smith. Edwin was a Labourer at Hill Farm Wheathold Green for many years. A few years ago I was in touch with the wife of one of his Gt. Grand children (Grandfather is son Edwin Thomas) Bob -- Genealogy Database Powered by TNG on Linux Mint Server http://www.bobhutchins.me.uk http://www.roberthutchins.me.uk On Sat, 2010-03-27 at 13:32 +0000, Barbara Mallyon wrote: > Hello Nigel, > > Had another look at the Albert Smith's entry, the vicar has definately > got Edwin's second name Septis, spelt as Leptis, the "L" has a loop at > the bottom, written the same as in the word Labourer, I showed this to > Roger and he agrees. > The name of the Cottage Whenthold, looking at the microfiche you would > have to know the the name was spelt with an "n" rather than an "a". > > I have got a half page photocopy of the baptism if you would like it, > please send me your address off list and I will pop it in the post to > you. > > Kind regards > > Barbara Lewis Mallyon > Basingstoke, Hants. UK > BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Nigel St C Gerdes" <nigel.gerdes@milnet.uk.net> > To: "Barbara Mallyon" <BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk>; > <eng-hampshire-kingsclere@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 12:11 PM > Subject: Re: [King] Kingsclere Woodlands Baptisms > > > > Barbara and list, > > > > Thanks for the data, I did not have the baptism of Albert Smith. > > Just to note > > a couple of transcription errors in respect of his baptism. His > > father was > > Edwin Septis (not Leptis) Smith, who may have been the son of > > Thomas and > > Fanny Smith nee Hutchins and the family home in 1898 would have been > > Wheathold > > Cottages rather than Whenthold Cottages. > > > > Regards > > > > Nigel Gerdes > > > > --------------------------------------- > >From Kingsclere. ALL surnames in CAPITAL letter please. Christian name Lawrence, surname LAWRENCE. > > If you get unsubscribed and did not ask to be unsubscribed, please email eng-hampshire-kingsclere-admin@rootsweb.com > > Make sure your Anti Virus Protection is updated and do a weekly backup of your files. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Nigel, Had another look at the Albert Smith's entry, the vicar has definately got Edwin's second name Septis, spelt as Leptis, the "L" has a loop at the bottom, written the same as in the word Labourer, I showed this to Roger and he agrees. The name of the Cottage Whenthold, looking at the microfiche you would have to know the the name was spelt with an "n" rather than an "a". I have got a half page photocopy of the baptism if you would like it, please send me your address off list and I will pop it in the post to you. Kind regards Barbara Lewis Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants. UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nigel St C Gerdes" <nigel.gerdes@milnet.uk.net> To: "Barbara Mallyon" <BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk>; <eng-hampshire-kingsclere@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 12:11 PM Subject: Re: [King] Kingsclere Woodlands Baptisms > Barbara and list, > > Thanks for the data, I did not have the baptism of Albert Smith. > Just to note > a couple of transcription errors in respect of his baptism. His > father was > Edwin Septis (not Leptis) Smith, who may have been the son of > Thomas and > Fanny Smith nee Hutchins and the family home in 1898 would have been > Wheathold > Cottages rather than Whenthold Cottages. > > Regards > > Nigel Gerdes >

Barbara and list, Thanks for the data, I did not have the baptism of Albert Smith. Just to note a couple of transcription errors in respect of his baptism. His father was Edwin Septis (not Leptis) Smith, who may have been the son of Thomas and Fanny Smith nee Hutchins and the family home in 1898 would have been Wheathold Cottages rather than Whenthold Cottages. Regards Nigel Gerdes > Hello All, > > Kingsclere Woodland Baptisms > > Jessica Briginshaw daughter of John Richard and Emma HOBBS of Ashford > Hill,Woodlands Labourer 28 September 1879 > James Simmonds son of Edward and Pricilla CHAPPELL of Holly Bush, > Woodlands Labourer 12 October 1879 St. Peters Headley > Charles Ernest son of Benjamin and Eliza MILES Mill Green, Woodlands > Labourer 26 October 1879 St. Peters, Headley > > Alfred son of Henry and Sarah SEYMOUR of Headley, Woodlands Labourer. > St. Peter's Headley 6 July 1884 > Rose daughter of George and Emma LAWRENCE Mill Green, Woodlands > Labourer. St. Peter's Headley > Alfred son of George and Dorcas Bridgman of Fair Oak Woodlands > Labourer 14 September 1884 > > > Frederic John P son of William and Sarah Ann BAUGHURST of Mill Green, > Woodlands Labourer 3 February 1898 > Elsie May daughter of James and Emma MILES of Forest Cottage Woodlands > Labourer 13 March 1898 > Albert son of Edwin Leptis and Eliza SMITH of Whenthold Cottages > Woodlands Labourer 27 March 1898 > > Kind regards > > Barbara Lewis Mallyon > Basingstoke, Hants. UK > BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk > > > --------------------------------------- > > >From Kingsclere. ALL surnames in CAPITAL letter please. Christian name > > Lawrence, surname LAWRENCE. > > If you get unsubscribed and did not ask to be unsubscribed, please email > eng-hampshire-kingsclere-admin@rootsweb.com > > Make sure your Anti Virus Protection is updated and do a weekly backup of > your files. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >