Hello Everyone, This message was sent to me by Peter GOFF, as the message comes from a non subscriber to the Kingsclere List. regards Barbara Lewis Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants. UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk List Admin Good afternoon Peter I have been enjoying your website, particularly the section related to my Hussey ancestor, Fanny Hussey, the daughter of Martha who was born c1790, as the illegitimate daughter of Martha. I do not know whether you want more information on her, but am happy to provide it if you so wish. John Lewis's work has been very informative but I do have to point out that it includes a couple of small related errors which he may wish to correct. By 1792, the above Martha Hussey born c 1763 (mother of William Smallbone Hussey and Frances) was married to Edward Chandler, so John Lewis' accreditation of a further illegitimate birth to her (John Hussey in 1805) is incorrect. He may have overlooked there was a second Martha Hussey in Beenham who was born in 1789 as the illegitimate daughter of Ann Hussey. It was this second Martha Hussey (not the first) that married John Froud in 1807 and John from 1805 was her base born child. Probability suggests that the John born 1805 was also John Froud's child, but as no father was on his baptism, it is impossible to say with any certainty whether he was a full or half brother of the other two Froud children. Have tried to contact John Lewis direct to get him to discuss these minor alterations, but none of the e-mail addresses I have seem to be active so perhaps you could pass this on. Apart from these corrections, I want to discuss the connection of the Beenham Husseys with the town of Basingstoke, for around 1813, my Frances, a James and an Ann were all living in Cliddesden near there. Roy Grant roy.grant15@yahoo.co.uk

John, The link is correct except that the 9 before "/Kingsclere?" should be a 7, Geoff ----- Original Message ----- From: "john lewis" <zen57162@zen.co.uk> To: <eng-hampshire-kingsclere@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 4:39 PM Subject: [King] startx.co.uk >I am having problems with my startx.co.uk domain name not resolving and > am waiting for my Domain Registrar to contact me to sort it out > > In the meantime you can get to the database using the IP address as > follows: > > http://212.13.194.129:2319/Kingsclere > > I will advise when the problem is resolved. I had already updated the > website itself so Ken Weber's line can be found at branch 8 here:- > > http://212.13.194.129:2317/Kingsclere?m=NG&n=Pearce&t=N > > -- > John Lewis > Debian & the GeneWeb genealogical data server > --------------------------------------- >>From Kingsclere. ALL surnames in CAPITAL letter please. Christian name >>Lawrence, surname LAWRENCE. > > If you get unsubscribed and did not ask to be unsubscribed, please email > eng-hampshire-kingsclere-admin@rootsweb.com > > Make sure your Anti Virus Protection is updated and do a weekly backup of > your files. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

On Tue, 04 May 2010 19:59:43 -0700 "kweber@smartt.com" <kweber@smartt.com> wrote: > Lillie Maria PEARCE born abt 1884 @ Baughurst > married Frank William WATTS and had 2 children according to the 1911 Census Frank William Watts was born in Berwick Basset Wilts in 1882 Births Mar 1882: Watts Frank William, Marlbro' 5a 89 In 1891 he was recorded as Francis Watts: 1891 Census, Berwick Bassett, Wilts: Thomas Watts, head, 36, ag lab, Axford Mary Watts, wife, 37, -, Avebury George Watts, son, 15, ag lab , Axford Emily Watts, dau, 12, scholar, Axford Francis Watts, son, 9, scholar, Berwick Basset Lilly Rebecca Watts, dau, 6, scholar, Berwick Basset Alice Mary Ann Watts, dau, 2, -, Berwick Basset Marriages Dec 1874: Geddings Mary & WATTS Thomas, Hungerford 2c 607 but there were two Thomas Watts born in Axford in 1855/6, one with father Phillip and the other with father William. So it needs access to marriage records for the area to establish father's name - unless of course someone already has this family on record. Mary Geddings is I think Births Mar 1855: Giddings Mary, Marlbro 5a 81 and in 1861: 1861 Census, Glory Ann 4, Prshure, Wilts: George Giddings, head, 31, ag lab, Avebury Jane -do-, wife, 27, -, -do- Mary -do-, dau, 6, scholar, -do- Emily A -do-, dau, 3, -, -do- John -do-, son, 1, -, Preshute -- John Lewis Debian & the GeneWeb genealogical data server

Ken, Thank you for all the information, I will digest it and work on it more later on tonight. Regards, Nigel > thank you nigel for the interest. > Charles PEARCE b 1855 @ Burghclere > married Elizabeth ELLIOTT b 1855 @ Tadley > Charles mother is listed on his birth certificate as Maria PEARCE. no > father is shown. > I had found a Charles PEARCE listed with his grandmother Elizabeth DAY @ > East Woodhay > on the 1861 census but i am not sure if this is the right Charles. > Charles and Elizabeth had at least 10 children that i have found, they > are: > Sarah PEARCE born abt 1876 @ Tadley > > George PEARCE born abt 1879 @ Kingsclere (do not know wifes name but > did have children > > Thirza PEARCE born abt 1880 @ Baughurst > married Ted MERRICK and had children > > Lillie Maria PEARCE born abt 1884 @ Baughurst > married Frank William WATTS and had 2 children > > Arthur N PEARCE born abt 1886 @ Baughurst married Rose ?? > > Garnet Charles PEARCE (my grandfather) born 1887 @ Baughurst > married Sarah Ann CROOK > > John PEARCE born abt 1890 @ Baughurst > > Bertha PEARCE married Len MONGER > > Florence Rose PEARCE married John Walter ROBICHEAU > > Jack PEARCE married Penny ?? > > I sent for a birth certificate for Elizabeth ELLIOTT but do not know if I > have the > right one as it says her mother is Harriet and I was expecting one with > Hannah ELLIOTT > to tie her into the Gideon ELLIOTT family. Sorry about the long winded > reply ...ken > > On Tue, 4 May 2010 19:41:02 +0100, Nigel St C Gerdes > <nigel.gerdes@milnet.uk.net> wrote: > I was interested in > > > your Watts connection, Is it the fact that Charles was with a Watts > > family of > > > husband William and wife Sarah in 1861 at Little Row Bray, Berks where > > the > > > wife comes from Highclere? I wonder if the Watts wife might have been > > born a > > > Pearce. I have traced Charles' grandmother (Elizabeth Day nee Talbot ) > > via the > > > 1851 census at East Woodhay and have an idea of who his parents might > > have > > > been but without a birth certificate to check it cannot be sure. Do you > > have a > > > copy of his birth certificate and what does it say if you do? > > As to Methodist records I think (but if somebody on the list knows better > > > > please do correct me quick so Ken gets accurate information), they are > > part of > > > the Newbury circuit and therefore to be found in the Berkshire Record > > Office > > > at Reading, the Baughurst and Tadley Church of England PRs are at > > Winchester > > > in Hampshire. Both county record offices have web sites so you can plan > > visits before you travel. > > I have also traced Elizabeth Elliott with strong but not total confidence > > back > > > into her large Elliott family tree. You have a lot of distant relatives > > still > > > in the same area. > > Regards, > > Nigel >

Dorothy and John, First link will work but you have to add a question mark on the end of the word Kingsclere in the link. I run GeneWeb at home as FH system so I know the software well. Regards, Nigel > John, > > The first link below doesn't work but the second does. > > Dorothy > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "john lewis" <zen57162@zen.co.uk> > To: <eng-hampshire-kingsclere@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 4:39 PM > Subject: [King] startx.co.uk > > > I am having problems with my startx.co.uk domain name not > > resolving and > > am waiting for my Domain Registrar to contact me to sort > > it out > > > > In the meantime you can get to the database using the IP > > address as > > follows: > > > > http://212.13.194.129:2319/Kingsclere > > > > I will advise when the problem is resolved. I had already > > updated the > > website itself so Ken Weber's line can be found at branch > > 8 here:- > > > > http://212.13.194.129:2317/Kingsclere?m=NG&n=Pearce&t=N > > --------------------------------------- > > >From Kingsclere. ALL surnames in CAPITAL letter please. Christian name > > Lawrence, surname LAWRENCE. > > If you get unsubscribed and did not ask to be unsubscribed, please email > eng-hampshire-kingsclere-admin@rootsweb.com > > Make sure your Anti Virus Protection is updated and do a weekly backup of > your files. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

John, The first link below doesn't work but the second does. Dorothy ----- Original Message ----- From: "john lewis" <zen57162@zen.co.uk> To: <eng-hampshire-kingsclere@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 4:39 PM Subject: [King] startx.co.uk > > I am having problems with my startx.co.uk domain name not > resolving and > am waiting for my Domain Registrar to contact me to sort > it out > > In the meantime you can get to the database using the IP > address as > follows: > > http://212.13.194.129:2319/Kingsclere > > I will advise when the problem is resolved. I had already > updated the > website itself so Ken Weber's line can be found at branch > 8 here:- > > http://212.13.194.129:2317/Kingsclere?m=NG&n=Pearce&t=N > > -- > John Lewis > Debian & the GeneWeb genealogical data server > ---------------------------------------

I am having problems with my startx.co.uk domain name not resolving and am waiting for my Domain Registrar to contact me to sort it out In the meantime you can get to the database using the IP address as follows: http://212.13.194.129:2319/Kingsclere I will advise when the problem is resolved. I had already updated the website itself so Ken Weber's line can be found at branch 8 here:- http://212.13.194.129:2317/Kingsclere?m=NG&n=Pearce&t=N -- John Lewis Debian & the GeneWeb genealogical data server

Good morning With reference to the above names I have the following in my files; Sorry not in date order; Our JOHN BATES (wheelwright)m ELIZABETH WATTS her Father DAVID WATTS (cordwainer) at Kintbury Feb 8th 1840, sadly Elizabeth died in childbirth aged 45 years in 1844 THOMAS RANDALL m MARY WATTS at Speen Berks 31st Mar 1777 (we have a lot of Watts signing as witnesses of our Bates, Randall & Matthew marriages SARAH RANDALL m JAMES PEARCE of Inkpen Berks at Kintbury 8th Aug 1787 WILLIAM RANDALL M ELIZABETH ELLIOTT at Newbury 29th mar 1803 WILLIAM RANDALL M MARY MARTIN he is the WILLIAM RANDALL above Elizabeth died a ANN ELLIOTT was a witness 24th Dec 1811 I'll check my Matthews next . Regards Beverley Smith

thank you nigel for the interest. Charles PEARCE b 1855 @ Burghclere married Elizabeth ELLIOTT b 1855 @ Tadley Charles mother is listed on his birth certificate as Maria PEARCE. no father is shown. I had found a Charles PEARCE listed with his grandmother Elizabeth DAY @ East Woodhay on the 1861 census but i am not sure if this is the right Charles. Charles and Elizabeth had at least 10 children that i have found, they are: Sarah PEARCE born abt 1876 @ Tadley George PEARCE born abt 1879 @ Kingsclere (do not know wifes name but did have children Thirza PEARCE born abt 1880 @ Baughurst married Ted MERRICK and had children Lillie Maria PEARCE born abt 1884 @ Baughurst married Frank William WATTS and had 2 children Arthur N PEARCE born abt 1886 @ Baughurst married Rose ?? Garnet Charles PEARCE (my grandfather) born 1887 @ Baughurst married Sarah Ann CROOK John PEARCE born abt 1890 @ Baughurst Bertha PEARCE married Len MONGER Florence Rose PEARCE married John Walter ROBICHEAU Jack PEARCE married Penny ?? I sent for a birth certificate for Elizabeth ELLIOTT but do not know if I have the right one as it says her mother is Harriet and I was expecting one with Hannah ELLIOTT to tie her into the Gideon ELLIOTT family. Sorry about the long winded reply ...ken On Tue, 4 May 2010 19:41:02 +0100, Nigel St C Gerdes <nigel.gerdes@milnet.uk.net> wrote: I was interested in > your Watts connection, Is it the fact that Charles was with a Watts family of > husband William and wife Sarah in 1861 at Little Row Bray, Berks where the > wife comes from Highclere? I wonder if the Watts wife might have been born a > Pearce. I have traced Charles' grandmother (Elizabeth Day nee Talbot ) via the > 1851 census at East Woodhay and have an idea of who his parents might have > been but without a birth certificate to check it cannot be sure. Do you have a > copy of his birth certificate and what does it say if you do? > As to Methodist records I think (but if somebody on the list knows better > please do correct me quick so Ken gets accurate information), they are part of > the Newbury circuit and therefore to be found in the Berkshire Record Office > at Reading, the Baughurst and Tadley Church of England PRs are at Winchester > in Hampshire. Both county record offices have web sites so you can plan > visits before you travel. > I have also traced Elizabeth Elliott with strong but not total confidence back > into her large Elliott family tree. You have a lot of distant relatives still > in the same area. > Regards, > Nigel

Hi Elizabeth, I could not resist doing some digging at the records. Henry had another brother at least and perhaps a sister Catherine as they both get married on the same page of the register. (FreeBMD). Joseph and Hannah are at Speen in the 1861 census. Joseph is from West Hanney which seems to be a major centre for the Berkshire Belcher family. I have yet to see if there is any other linkage with Hampshire Belcher families There seems to be two separate twigs in Burghclere around the mid-1800's and there is a sizable grouping around Basingstoke. Hannah Beckingham was baptised 28 Oct 1791 at Kingston Lisle, Berks and died c 1870 FreeBMD Newbury 2Q 2c 170 with a given age of 79. Joseph Belcher died ca 1867 FreeBMD Newbury 2Q 2c 134 with a given age of 75. Joseph and Hannah seem to have spent most of their married life at Speen. I expect there are more but so far: Descendancy Narrative of William Belcher (52969) I. William1 Belcher (52969) married Elizabeth Brothers (52970) on 22 Jul 1775 at West Hanney, Berks, UK. A. James2 Belcher (52984) married Susannah (--?--) (52985). He was born circa 1788 at West Hanney, Berks, UK. As of 1851, James Belcher (52984) lived at Iver, Bucks, UK. He was Ag Lab in 1851. He died after 1851. B. Joseph2 Belcher (52935) was born circa 1792 at West Hanney, Berks, UK. He married Hannah Beckingham (52936), daughter of Jonathan Beckingham (52937) and Sarah Sutton (52938), on 8 Sep 1816 at Lambourne, Berks, UK. He was a Gardener in 1841. As of 1861, Joseph Belcher (52935) lived at Shaw cum Donnington, Berks, UK. He was a Gardener in 1861. He died circa 1867 at FreeBMD Newbury 2Q 2c 134. 1. Henry3 Belcher (52934) was born circa 1818. He was baptized on 2 Jun 1818 at Newtown, Berks, UK. He married Jane Bridgeman (52930), daughter of James Bridgeman (52923) and Anne Neate (52925), circa 1839 at FreeBMD Kingsclere 4Q. He died circa 1886 at Newtown, Hants, UK. He was buried on 11 Oct 1886 at Newtown, Hants, UK. a) Hanah4 Belcher (52939) was born circa 1840 at Burghclere, Hants, UK. b) Rosetta4 Belcher (52940) was born circa 1844 at Burghclere, Hants, UK. c) Mary Ann4 Belcher (52941) was born circa 1846 at Burghclere, Hants, UK. She died circa 1900. d) Benjamin4 Belcher (52942) was born circa 1848 at Burghclere, Hants, UK. e) Kate4 Belcher (52943) was born circa 1851 at Greenham, Berks, UK. f) Caroline4 Belcher (52944) was born circa 1854. She was baptized on 14 Dec 1856 at Newtown, Hants, UK. g) Briton4 Belcher (52945) was born circa 1856. He was baptized on 14 Dec 1856 at Newtown, Hants, UK. h) Albert4 Belcher (a twin) (52946) was born circa 1860. He died circa 1861. He was baptised with his twin. i) Arthur4 Belcher (a twin) (52947) was born circa 1860. He was baptized on 24 Jan 1864 at Newtown, Hants, UK. He died circa 1877. He was buried on 19 May 1877 at Newtown, Hants, UK. 2. Jeremiah3 Belcher (52976) was born circa 1826 at Shaw, Berks, UK. As of 1841, Jeremiah Belcher (52976) lived at Shaw cum Donnington, Berks, UK. He was a Miller in 1841. He married Anne Goodchild (52977) circa 1847 at FreeBMD Newbury 3Q 6 321. As of 1851, Jeremiah Belcher (52976) lived at Shaw Road, Speenhamland, Berks, UK. He was a Miller in 1851. He died circa 1861 at FreeBMD Henley 3Q 3a 319. As of 1861, Jeremiah Belcher (52976) lived at Mill End, Hambleden, Bucks, UK. He was Journeyman Miller in 1861. a) William4 Belcher (52980) was born circa 1848 at Speen, Berks, UK. b) Eliza4 Belcher (52981) was born circa 1850 at Shaw, Berks, UK. c) Kate4 Belcher (52982) was born circa 1856 at Shaw, Berks, UK. d) Albert4 Belcher (52983) was born circa 1861 at under 2 m in census, Hambleden, Bucks, UK. Printed on: 04 May 2010 Regards, Nigel Gerdes > Hi Nigel > > Thank you for your suggestions > > There is a marriage on the IGI (extracted) for Joseph and Hannah which > would appear to be the correct one > > 08 September 1816 at Lambourne > Joseph BELCHER > Hannah BECKINGHAM > > I have had an e-mail from someone who is doing a "one name" of Beckingham > and he has confirmed this and says Joseph was "of Speen" > > This would fit with them having an 1851 census address of Shaw cum > Donnington and may explain why Henry is in Speen in the 1861 census > > Cheers > Elizabeth >

Ken, Happy to help, and hope you both have a great visit to the UK. I have been tracing your Pearce family since you e-mailed the list and I was interested in your Watts connection, Is it the fact that Charles was with a Watts family of husband William and wife Sarah in 1861 at Little Row Bray, Berks where the wife comes from Highclere? I wonder if the Watts wife might have been born a Pearce. I have traced Charles' grandmother (Elizabeth Day nee Talbot ) via the 1851 census at East Woodhay and have an idea of who his parents might have been but without a birth certificate to check it cannot be sure. Do you have a copy of his birth certificate and what does it say if you do? As to Methodist records I think (but if somebody on the list knows better please do correct me quick so Ken gets accurate information), they are part of the Newbury circuit and therefore to be found in the Berkshire Record Office at Reading, the Baughurst and Tadley Church of England PRs are at Winchester in Hampshire. Both county record offices have web sites so you can plan visits before you travel. I have also traced Elizabeth Elliott with strong but not total confidence back into her large Elliott family tree. You have a lot of distant relatives still in the same area. Regards, Nigel

Hi Nigel Thank you for your suggestions There is a marriage on the IGI (extracted) for Joseph and Hannah which would appear to be the correct one 08 September 1816 at Lambourne Joseph BELCHER Hannah BECKINGHAM I have had an e-mail from someone who is doing a "one name" of Beckingham and he has confirmed this and says Joseph was "of Speen" This would fit with them having an 1851 census address of Shaw cum Donnington and may explain why Henry is in Speen in the 1861 census Cheers Elizabeth

Hi Ken, Oak House is Grade 2 listed and still exists and is shown on UK Ordnance Survey maps of the area at grid reference SU 585608. My map is too small at scale 1:50000 to have all the farms. The 1:25000 map should have more detail. Perhaps somebody on the list with more local knowledge will reply. The Edward Allen shown at Manor Farm in the 1891 census is a distant relative to me and even more distant by another branch is Albert Kimbrey next door to Charles Pearce. Albert Kimbrey was until at least 1895 the village blacksmith so it is very easy to locate his dwelling even today. Next to Manor farm to the north was the Primitive Methodist Chapel (later the Reading Room) and beyond that the Forge and Blacksmith's Cottage which was next to Upper Farm. Albert Kimbrey later took up farming and moved ca 1898 to Church Farm in the immediate area. The Primitive Methodist Chapel is not to be confused with the Wesleyan Methodist Chapel that was located the other side of Upper Farm. I would suspect from the family units on the two 1891 census pages some houses were sub-divided. Hope this helps, Nigel Gerdes > Names on my grandfather PEARCE's side are PEARCE, ELLIOTT, MERRICK, & > WATTS. > > I have found my grandfathers family on baughurst road in the 1891 census. > > They were 3 houses away from Oak House and 2 from Manor farm. On the other > side they were 3 away from Upper Farm. Can any one on the list tell me if > > these farms or houses would still be there today ? > > Would anyone have an interest in Merrick's from this area? My grandfather > had > a nephew at Clappen Gate Road in Pamber Heath i believe. > > Thank you for your help. > Ken Weber , Kelowna B.C. > Canada > > --------------------------------------- > > >From Kingsclere. ALL surnames in CAPITAL letter please. Christian name > > Lawrence, surname LAWRENCE. > > If you get unsubscribed and did not ask to be unsubscribed, please email > eng-hampshire-kingsclere-admin@rootsweb.com > > Make sure your Anti Virus Protection is updated and do a weekly backup of > your files. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello All, There was a man named Ken who wrote to me in the year 2001, also researching the surname of WATTS, this is what I found for him. Taken from the 1851 Census index for Kingsclere all WATTS William age 50 born Newbury, Berkshire Jane age 35 born Hannington Ann age 2 born Kingsclere Ellen age 11 born Kingsclere Emily age 16 born Kingsclere Lucy age 6 born Kingsclere All one family Charles age 33 born Sherborne Charlotte age 69 born Sherborne Harriet age 2 born Kingsclere John age 31 born Kingsclere Mary age 21 born Kingsclere William age 37 born Sherborne All one family David age 34 born Burghclere Mary age 39 born Baughurst Lucy age 6 born Kingsclere Martha age 10 born Kingsclere All one family Thomas age 51 born Woodgreen Sarah age 49 born Kingsclere Eliza age 5 born Kingsclere James age 8 born Kingsclere Mary age 11 born Kingsclere William age 3 born Kingsclere All one family Kind regards Barbara Lewis Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants. UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk

Names on my grandfather PEARCE's side are PEARCE, ELLIOTT, MERRICK, & WATTS. I have found my grandfathers family on baughurst road in the 1891 census. They were 3 houses away from Oak House and 2 from Manor farm. On the other side they were 3 away from Upper Farm. Can any one on the list tell me if these farms or houses would still be there today ? Would anyone have an interest in Merrick's from this area? My grandfather had a nephew at Clappen Gate Road in Pamber Heath i believe. Thank you for your help. Ken Weber , Kelowna B.C. Canada

Elizabeth wrote: > For the attention of John Lewis ! snipped > > I have Joseph BELCHER marrying a Hannah BECKINGHAM but no date or place and > am not sure where it came from-so suspect until confirmed ! > The tree at the following URL http://beckgen.tripod.com/id26.html makes this claim Hannah Beckingham b 1791, to Jonathan (ca 1766 Baydon, Wilts ) and Sarah Beckingham nee Sutton, married Joseph Belcher in 1816. > Elizabeth > Regards, Nigel Gerdes

Hi List, Thanks John. There are a sizable collection of Watts wills in and around Speen that are held by the Wiltshire Family History Centre at Chippenham, Wilts. There is an on-line finding index and a few wills can be viewed directly on line. Hopefully they may help unscramble the many Watts in the area, as finding the definitive parents for William born ca 1794 has been a brick wall for several years. Regards, Nigel > On Sat, 1 May 2010 17:04:40 +0100 > > Nigel St C Gerdes <nigel.gerdes@milnet.uk.net> wrote: > > Does anybody have details of the grandparents of Mark Watts born ca > > 1850 at Stockcross, nr Speen, Berks? > > > > I am trying to untangle the many Watts in the Speen area as my own > > family are descendants of William Watts born ca 1794 at Speen with > > possible (but not confirmed) parents Thomas and Mary Watts nee > > Deluce. > > There is nothing on the IGI, BVRI or online elsewhere to help with those > Berkshire Watts families. > > > What is the connection of the William Watts buried 16 July 1810 at > > Woodhay that Barbara indicated below? > > I don't know but the Burial index records him as being age 67 so born > ca1743 > > > > Rose Ann married Arthur SMITH 13 Oct 1894 St. Mary's Church, > > > Kingsclere > > > Witnesses at Wedding James SMITH and Emily COOPER > > and had the following children all baptised at St. Mary > Mary Jane ca 1895 > Ellen ca 1898 > Ann ca 1900 > Clara Agnes ca 1902 > Elsie May ca 1904 > Arthur Ernest ca 1906 > Emily Rose ca 1909 > Edward George ca 1911 > William John ca 1913 > > >From Kingsclere. ALL surnames in CAPITAL letter please. Christian name > > Lawrence, surname LAWRENCE. > > If you get unsubscribed and did not ask to be unsubscribed, please email > eng-hampshire-kingsclere-admin@rootsweb.com > > Make sure your Anti Virus Protection is updated and do a weekly backup of > your files. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Good afternoon Re Watts I have some Watts in my family tree and if you give me a couple of days I'll send details to the list.I have just got back from a conference so a bit up against it at the moment. Regards Beverley Smith

On Sat, 1 May 2010 17:04:40 +0100 Nigel St C Gerdes <nigel.gerdes@milnet.uk.net> wrote: > Does anybody have details of the grandparents of Mark Watts born ca > 1850 at Stockcross, nr Speen, Berks? > > I am trying to untangle the many Watts in the Speen area as my own > family are descendants of William Watts born ca 1794 at Speen with > possible (but not confirmed) parents Thomas and Mary Watts nee > Deluce. There is nothing on the IGI, BVRI or online elsewhere to help with those Berkshire Watts families. > What is the connection of the William Watts buried 16 July 1810 at > Woodhay that Barbara indicated below? I don't know but the Burial index records him as being age 67 so born ca1743 > > Rose Ann married Arthur SMITH 13 Oct 1894 St. Mary's Church, > > Kingsclere > > Witnesses at Wedding James SMITH and Emily COOPER and had the following children all baptised at St. Mary Mary Jane ca 1895 Ellen ca 1898 Ann ca 1900 Clara Agnes ca 1902 Elsie May ca 1904 Arthur Ernest ca 1906 Emily Rose ca 1909 Edward George ca 1911 William John ca 1913 -- John Lewis Debian & the GeneWeb genealogical data server

For the attention of John Lewis ! (James Bridgeman c1785-1870 and Ann Neate 1790-1829 are my 3 x gt grandparents) Henry BRIDGEMAN (on website) Henry Bridgeman bapt 11 Aug 1816 Newtown s James & Ann (Neate) Buried 18 March 1891 at Greenham age 72  (Bridgman) Married-Maria BRIGHT 1st Q 1865 Newbury RD Maria BRIGHT Baptised 31 Dec 1826 d John & Mary at Newtown (large family of Brights !) Buried 22 Nov 1877 at Newtown  age 57 No children found-they were of "mature" years in 1865 ! Jane BRIDGEMAN(sister of Henry-on website) Jane Bridgeman bapt 10 June 1821 at Newtown d James & Ann (Neate) Buried 11 Aug 1902 at Newtown age 83 Married Henry BELCHER 4th Q 1839 Kingsclere RD Henry BELCHER Baptised 02 June 1818 s Joseph & Hannah at Newtown Buried 11 October 1886 at Newtown age 67 Children found (BELCHER)(9) HANNAH-bapt 09 Aug 1840 at Burghclere ROSETTA-born abt 1844 (Burghclere in census) MARY ANN-born abt 1846 (Burghclere in census) Buried 07 June 1900 at Newtown age 51 (Does not appear to have married) BENJAMIN-born abt 1848 (Burghclere in census) KATE-born 2nd Q 1851 (Greenham in census) CAROLINE-born 1st Q 1854- baptised 14 December 1856 at Newtown(bapt with brother) BRITON-born 4 Q 1856-baptised 14 December 1856 at Newtown ALBERT (twin)-born 2nd Q 1860-(Greenham in census) Died 2nd Q 1861 Newbury RD ARTHUR(twin)-born 2nd Q 1860 (Greenham in census) baptised 24 January 1864 at Newtown- Buried 19 May 1877 at Newtown age 17 Henry Belcher was a gardener and seems to have moved about quite a bit according to the census I have Joseph BELCHER marrying a Hannah BECKINGHAM but no date or place and am not sure where it came from-so suspect until confirmed ! There are "trees" on Ancestry with this Belcher family and have Jane dying in 1902 at Newtown CONNETICUT USA !! Elizabeth