Hello All, I am pleased to be able to tell you that the Hampshire Genealogical Society has produced the Hampshire Burials Index (1538 to 1837) on CD-ROM. I have checked and Kingsclere is on this CD Quote Yes, Kingsclere is included. It covers all Hampshire parish registers that are still extant, and includes Roman Catholic and Non-conformist burials 1538-1837. This CD will be available from the 1st March 2002 Purchase Price to Society members UK £10.50 to Overseas £11.50 Purchase price to non members UK address £15.00 to Overseas address £16.00 All prices include post and packaging All orders with Cheques made payable to Hampshire Genealogical Society (Publications). PO Box 48, Cosham, Hants PO6 3UN Orders by credit card £15.00 in all cases via GENfair at www.genfair.com Regards Barbara Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk Listowner

Kingsclere/Woodlands Burials as taken from the Parish Register WALDRON Jane of Ashford Hill, Woodlands age 28 years 23 September 1882 LAWRENCE Richard of Union House, Kingsclere age 81 years 20 November 1882 RABBITS William of near Goose Hill, Woodlands age 30 years 22 November 1882 HARMSWORTH Joseph of Woolverton End, Woodlands age 82 years 6 January 1883 COOPER Maria of near od Farm, Woodlands age 75 years 6 January 1883 BROWN Fanny of near Tan House, Woodlands age 2 years 12 March 1883 at Headley BROWN John of Headley, Woodlands age 19 years 4 April 1883 at Headley ENGLEFIELD Daniel of Holt Cottage, Woodlands age 66 years 16 April 1883 BUTLER Clara of Ashford Hill, Woodlands age 26 years 11 October 1884 BUTLER Nelly of Ashford Hill, Woodlands age 10 years 24 October 1884 LAWRENCE John of near Holdrip Hill, Woodlands age 63 years 25 October 1884 WEBB Sarah of Mill Green, Woodlands age 62 years 25 October 1884 FOSTER Thomas of Plaistow Genne, Woodlands age 73 years 30 December 1884 MATTHEWS John of Ashford Hill, Woodlands age 41 Years 1 January 1885 HISCOCK Letitia of near Holdrip Hill, Woodlands age 77 years 15 January 1885 HUNT Charles of near Old Farm, Woodlands age 49 years 26 January 1885 Regards Barbara Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk

Kingsclere/Woodland Burials as taken from the Parish Register. HAWKINS Letitia of Ashford Hill, Woodlands age 76 years 9 March 1881 DANCE Charlotte of Huntsmoor Hill, Woodlands age 70 years 9 March 1881 at St.Peter's Headley. BARKER Eliza of Blacknest, Woodlands age 62 years 11 March 1881 * WARD James of Blacknest, Woodlands age 86 years 21 March 1881 * BATES Elizabeth, Kate of Ashford Hill, Woodlands age 3 years 28 May 1881 ENGLEFIELD Flora of Ashford Hill, Woodlands age 24 years 1881 ENGLEFIELD Margaret, Marthuma? of Ashford Hill, Woodlands age 4 years 28 May 1881 MOORE Jakey Miles of Ashford Hill, Woodlands age 6 months 11 June 1881 Note on botton of page 91. Eliza Barker daughter of James Ward. HUTCHINS Daniel of Hawkhurst Hill, Woodlands age 11 months 3 December 1881 BUTLER William of Ashford Hill, Woodlands age 19 days 8 February 1882 JEWELL John of Goose Hill, Woodlands age 83 years 16 February 1882 HAWKINS George of The Union, Kingclere age 48 years 27 February 1882 FOSTER Ann of Headley, Woodlands age 86 years 10 March 1882 at St. Peter's Headley GIRDLER James of Spradbury's, Woodlands age 10 weeks 19 April 1882 BRIDGEMAN Elizabeth Ellen of Woodhouse Cottages, Woodlands age 7 years 6 May 1882 MILES Eliza of Ashford Hill, Woodlands age 50 years 30 May 1882 Regards Barbara Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk

A message from the PRO. Subject: FFHS-NEWS 1901 Census - access to be withdrawn for 2 weeks We have noticed that the PRO have updated the statement on their web-site - not on their main page, although the 'Updated' details indicate it was changed at 2pm. Instead one needs to follow the links from either 'Further information is available' or 'Service Centres' to these respective pages. The latest development is buried in the middle of the former, but prominently displayed on the latter. In both cases, the new wording says:- "The 1901 Census Service will not be available at Service Centres from 17:00 GMT, 6 February 2002 until 20 February 2002. This is in order to allow full testing of service after the enhancements have been implemented. We apologise for the unavailability of the service during this period." Whilst access being completely unavailable for 2 weeks is extremely frustrating, the wording implies that we might see access widened at the end of that period (assuming the testing does not throw up further problems created by the enhancements). Regards Barbara Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk

Hi All, I'm researching the DRY families in Hampshire. Found the following entries on the IGI: Anne DRY married William KING 11 February 1810 in Kingsclere John DRY married Miriam MILES 14 October 1826 in Kingsclere Does anybody know where Anne or John were born? I'm trying to link the Kingsclere DRYs with the DRYs from Basingstoke/Sherborne St. John. Kind regards Renate Dry in Germany

On Mon, 4 Feb 2002 11:33:03 -0000 "Denis Hamilton" <Denis.R.Hamilton@btinternet.com> wrote: > picking up my Address. One of my correspondents tells me he has 6,000 > on his Address Book [he was on this Site] - how does he know that This can happen if you allow M$ Outlook (or Eudora for that matter) to automatically collect email addresses from every email you get. Turn this off and only put addresses in your address book that you know you need. This will limit the damage to some extent. Ideally keep your trusted email addresses in a plain text file somewhere on your system and copy/paste them into your emails and don't use the address books in your mail proggie. If you don't have any addresses there those nasty virii cannot proliferate around the world -- John Lewis <jayell@ntlworld.com> from Bournemouth, Dorset, UK using Mandrake GNU/Linux 8.0 and Geneweb genealogy software Main Family Names in HAM are: Kingsclere area: BUTLER, COOPER, FISHER, FOSTER, GIRDLER, HAWKINS Hazeley Heath: BARKER, CHANDLER, LEWINGTON, NEVILL(E) Main Family Names in GLA are: Vale of Glamorgan: GRIFFITH Rumney: LEWIS Aberdare: HOPKINS & JENKINS and CMN: HOPKINS & DAVIES

On Mon, 4 Feb 2002 11:33:03 -0000 "Denis Hamilton" <Denis.R.Hamilton@btinternet.com> wrote: > I opened up this morning to find I had two BAD-TRANS Virus - I thought > this had gone away!!! My Norton did its job and I followed I should also have said _don't_ use html mail. This is also vulnerable to trojans and the like. Plain text mail is all you need for a mailing list like this, it is also quicker to send and for people to download. -- John Lewis <jayell@ntlworld.com> from Bournemouth, Dorset, UK using Mandrake GNU/Linux 8.0 and Geneweb genealogy software

Thank you Derek and Dennis for the warning about the Virus that are going around. Don't Forget to update your Virus protection, on McAfee, we update once a week, also very important take a weekly back up. The backups are needed not just for Virus protection, if you accidentally delete something important, the backup can save all of your hard work from being lost, I know. New subscribers PLEASE DO NOT OPEN ANY ATTACHMENTS UNLESS YOU HAVE BEEN ASKED IF YOU WILL ACCEPT AN ATTACHMENT, write to the person who has sent the attachment to find out what the attachment is all about. Play safe. Regards Barbara Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk Listowner ----- Original Message ----- From: "derrick.sirman" <derrick.sirman@ntlworld.com> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 4:08 PM Subject: Re: Received a Virus > I also found that my installed anti virus system had not been registered and > was now out of date. I installed AVG-6, the latest version after Christmas > and it has already updated itself twice to cover new viruses. It runs > automatically every day. The difference is that I downloaded it free. > > Derrick sirman > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Denis Hamilton <Denis.R.Hamilton@btinternet.com> > To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 11:33 AM > Subject: Received a Virus > > > > Hi Everyone > > > > I opened up this morning to find I had two BAD-TRANS Virus - I thought > this had gone away!!! > > My Norton did its job and I followed instructions. I found that one had > come from a previous Website I was on - it was the Subject that gave me the > clue. I have not been on this Website since last June so it shows how > somewhere it is still picking up my Address. One of my correspondents tells > me he has 6,000 on his Address Book [he was on this Site] - how does he know > that everyone on his Address Book has Virus Protection?!! > > I am just sending this as a Warning as I caught a Virus in December and > sent it to everyone on my Address Book. Although the firm I bought the > Computer from put a Virus Protector into the Computer they had not told me > that it had not been Registered! I then went out and bought Norton and it > got rid of the Virus. > > I would emphasize what Barbara has already warned people to do - those > without a Virus Protection PLEASE go out and buy one, I know it is pricey > but well worth the money and it has certainly given me a piece of mind. I > would have hated loosing all of my Family History for one thing - and I > shall never forget the hassle and worry that passing the Virus on gave to > other people. > > Hope I am not out of order with this message. > > Denis from Windy Eastbourne > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >

I also found that my installed anti virus system had not been registered and was now out of date. I installed AVG-6, the latest version after Christmas and it has already updated itself twice to cover new viruses. It runs automatically every day. The difference is that I downloaded it free. Derrick sirman ----- Original Message ----- From: Denis Hamilton <Denis.R.Hamilton@btinternet.com> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 11:33 AM Subject: Received a Virus > Hi Everyone > > I opened up this morning to find I had two BAD-TRANS Virus - I thought this had gone away!!! > My Norton did its job and I followed instructions. I found that one had come from a previous Website I was on - it was the Subject that gave me the clue. I have not been on this Website since last June so it shows how somewhere it is still picking up my Address. One of my correspondents tells me he has 6,000 on his Address Book [he was on this Site] - how does he know that everyone on his Address Book has Virus Protection?!! > I am just sending this as a Warning as I caught a Virus in December and sent it to everyone on my Address Book. Although the firm I bought the Computer from put a Virus Protector into the Computer they had not told me that it had not been Registered! I then went out and bought Norton and it got rid of the Virus. > I would emphasize what Barbara has already warned people to do - those without a Virus Protection PLEASE go out and buy one, I know it is pricey but well worth the money and it has certainly given me a piece of mind. I would have hated loosing all of my Family History for one thing - and I shall never forget the hassle and worry that passing the Virus on gave to other people. > Hope I am not out of order with this message. > Denis from Windy Eastbourne > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Hi Everyone I opened up this morning to find I had two BAD-TRANS Virus - I thought this had gone away!!! My Norton did its job and I followed instructions. I found that one had come from a previous Website I was on - it was the Subject that gave me the clue. I have not been on this Website since last June so it shows how somewhere it is still picking up my Address. One of my correspondents tells me he has 6,000 on his Address Book [he was on this Site] - how does he know that everyone on his Address Book has Virus Protection?!! I am just sending this as a Warning as I caught a Virus in December and sent it to everyone on my Address Book. Although the firm I bought the Computer from put a Virus Protector into the Computer they had not told me that it had not been Registered! I then went out and bought Norton and it got rid of the Virus. I would emphasize what Barbara has already warned people to do - those without a Virus Protection PLEASE go out and buy one, I know it is pricey but well worth the money and it has certainly given me a piece of mind. I would have hated loosing all of my Family History for one thing - and I shall never forget the hassle and worry that passing the Virus on gave to other people. Hope I am not out of order with this message. Denis from Windy Eastbourne

Hello All, Good News, the Hampshire Record Office at Winchester have now got all of the 1901 Census, except 2 of them for Portsmouth. You can go to the Record Office to see the 1901 Census on microfiche, they have also got a new computer for use on the interenet, time allowed half an hour at a time, which you need to book. Regards Barbara Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk

Hello All, Colin Harris has given me the correct address for his Burials website. I apologise that I gave you only part of the email address. Barbara. Subject: RE: Kingsclere Burials > Hello Barbara > > The site should be OK I've just tried it. Assuming Alan is using the > correct address > http://www.colin.harris4.btinternet.co.uk/kingsclereburials.htm > the problem may be the time it takes to load, I hope to correct this when I > do the next update by breaking the site up into smaller pages. > > Regards > > Colin > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Barbara Mallyon [SMTP:BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk] > Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2002 02:05 > To: colin.harris4@btinternet.com > Subject: Kingsclere Burials > > Hello Colin, > > Are you working on the Burials at the moment, Alan McGowan sent me an > email to say there is nothing on your website. > > Regards > > Barbara Mallyon > Basingstoke, Hants, UK > BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk >

I think that http://www.colin.harris4.btinternet.co should be http://www.colin.harris4.btinternet.co.uk Easily done! Robert ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Mallyon" <BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2002 6:10 PM Subject: Kingsclere lookups > Hello Newbies, > > Collin Harris has put all of the Kingsclere/Woodland Burials that I > have been listing, onto a website in alphabetical order here is the > email address:- > http://www.colin.harris4.btinternet.co > > Peter Goff our Kingsclere Historian has got an interesting website > www.kingsclere.org.uk Peter has also listed in alphabetical order all > the surnames of ancestors that are being researched, and the names of > the researchers. > > Please keep checking the free Birth Marriage and Deaths, this free > site is updated approx once a month. http://FreeBMD.RootsWeb.com/ > > Try Chris and Caroline' Hayles wonderful site at: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~villages > There is so much information there about Hampshire and its villages > with many photos. > > Don't forget Family Search the IGI has been updated > http://familysearch.org > select IGI > > Hampshire Genealogical Society have added two more sets of monumental > inscription microfiches to their list. > They cover the churches of > (1) Highclere Estate, Highclere St Michael & All Angels, Holybourne > Church > of the Holy Rood, Hook with Warsash Methodist, Hook with Warsash St > Mary, > Hordle All Saints, Hordle Old Churchyard, Houghton All Saints and (2) > Portchester Priory of St Mary, Portsdown Christchurch, Purbrook St > John the Baptist. See page 27 of their GENfair stand > GENFair is an online family history fair, which you can find at > www.genfair.co.uk > > Regards > > Barbara Mallyon > Basingstoke, Hants, UK > BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk > Listowner > > ______________________________

Hello All, Is someone trying to send mail to Carol Dolton, I am having a problem with returned mail. Can you please contact me.Many thanks. Regards Barbara Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk

This information was taken from another rootsweb mailing list, I thought it was worth knowing about. The Primitive Methodists used to have their own paper/magazine I don't know how often it was published. > The Methodist movement was founded in 1740 by John Wesley, Charles Wesley > and George Whitefield. Followers met in at members houses, but gradually > established chapels were built all over Britain. > The movement split into many groups including - > Methodist New Connexion > Primitive Methodists > The Bible Christians > The United Methodist Free Churches > The Countess of Huntingdon's Connection > > The Methodist New Connexion, the United Methodist Free Church and the Bible > Christians combined in 1857 to form the United Methodist Church. > The Wesleyan Methodists, The Primitive Methodists and the United Methodists > combined to form the Methodist Church in 1932. > > In 1808 the Methodist lay preacher, Hugh Bourne was expelled from the > movement. Bourne and his 200 or so followers became known as Primitive > Methodists. Bourne adopted the name from a statement that had been made by > John Wesley in 1790 > "I still remain a primitive Methodist." > Bourne's followers were also called Ranters. > > Bourne built his first Primitive Methodist Chapel in Tunstall (the one at > Stoke on Trent not the one in Suffolk) in 1811. By 1842 membership had > increased to nearly 80,000 with 500 travelling evangelists and more that > 1,200 chapels. Membership continued to grow and by 1875 had reached 165,410. > Unlike the Wesleyan Methodists, the Primitive Methodists encouraged women > evangelists. They also provided many leaders of the trade union movement in > the late 19th century. > > Most of the chapels we see in Suffolk seem to be either Primitive Methodist > or Wesleyan Methodist. > There are many of the former in this area. > Unfortunately a lot of them are now converted into homes, although had they > not been, perhaps they might not still be standing. Regards Barbara Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk

For those of you who have got William MILES married to Elizabeth WOODHEAD, Elizabeth was a Shop Keeper, her daughter Louisa was a Cook Domestic and son Thomas an Ag Lab Carter. I would be interested to know what sort of shop Elizabeth kept, does this show up in any of the Kelly's Directories etc. or does anyone know? Regards Barbara Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk

Hello Newbies, Collin Harris has put all of the Kingsclere/Woodland Burials that I have been listing, onto a website in alphabetical order here is the email address:- http://www.colin.harris4.btinternet.co Peter Goff our Kingsclere Historian has got an interesting website www.kingsclere.org.uk Peter has also listed in alphabetical order all the surnames of ancestors that are being researched, and the names of the researchers. Please keep checking the free Birth Marriage and Deaths, this free site is updated approx once a month. http://FreeBMD.RootsWeb.com/ Try Chris and Caroline' Hayles wonderful site at: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~villages There is so much information there about Hampshire and its villages with many photos. Don't forget Family Search the IGI has been updated http://familysearch.org select IGI Hampshire Genealogical Society have added two more sets of monumental inscription microfiches to their list. They cover the churches of (1) Highclere Estate, Highclere St Michael & All Angels, Holybourne Church of the Holy Rood, Hook with Warsash Methodist, Hook with Warsash St Mary, Hordle All Saints, Hordle Old Churchyard, Houghton All Saints and (2) Portchester Priory of St Mary, Portsdown Christchurch, Purbrook St John the Baptist. See page 27 of their GENfair stand GENFair is an online family history fair, which you can find at www.genfair.co.uk Regards Barbara Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk Listowner

More good news for those with Scottish ancestors. > Subject: FFHS-NEWS 1901 Census available on Internet - for Scotland > > The 1901 Census went online without any problems - the Census for > Scotland, that is. It went live on January 24th which I understand > may be 'Burns night' in Scotland, and therefore an occasion for > celebrating two-fold. > > We delayed announcing this initially, to avoid increasing the > traffic to the site unnecessarily whilst the system bedded down > during its first week. And in case we raised your hopes > unnecessarily. > > However Origins.net were able to use the experience gained from > their existing partnership with the Scottish GRO through Scots > Origins, and subsequently in launching English Origins in > partnership with the Society of Genealogists, to ensure everything > went smoothly. I understand some of the wider search capabilities > were suppressed originally, to avoid potentially overloading the > system during the initial surge, but were soon reinstated. > > At the same time, the Scots Origins web site has been re-launched > with a new improved look and easier navigation. The 1901 Census is > in addition to the existing 1891 census with images and the 1881 > census, together with the older 'Statutory Register' (GRO) indexes > and the Old Parish Register indexes. > > You can access the 1901 Census for Scotland on the Scots Origins > site at http://www.origins.net/GRO Regards Barbara Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk > > > > > > # News from the Federation of Family History Societies > # To leave the list send to majordomo@maillist.ox.ac.uk > # with the message body unsubscribe ffhs-news >

Hello All, News hot off the Press. > Subject: FFHS-NEWS Orders for 1901 Microfiche extended to all > > As from March 1st, Overseas Family History Societies, individuals > and other institutions will be able to order the 1901 census on > microfiche (not microfilm, which is much more expensive anyway). > > The announcement on the PRO Record Copying service web-page at > http://www.pro.gov.uk/recordcopying/default.htm currently refers to > "individuals and institutions" only. However we have referred back > to the PRO and they have confirmed that this includes overseas > societies, and they will be amending the announcement to refer > instead to "individuals and > institutions worldwide". > > An order form to use to request estimates of costs will be made > available from the above web-page from March 1st Regards Barbara Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk

WINTERBOURNE : MILLER : HUTCHENCE/HUTCHINS/HUDGENS : ASTRICH/ASTRIDGE : CUMMINS : BARNES : DOLLERY : MENELL : PALMER : HORNBLOW : SIMPSON : BAUGHURST I have just found the Kingsclere list, so have had an interesting session checking it out. Unfortunately, so far I haven't found any links with my own names. Several members of the family have tried to progress further back with the WINTERBOURNE line but all grind to a halt with John who married Sarah CUMMINS at Hannington 15.10.1804. The census traces the WINTERBOURNES in Swan Street, Kingsclere from 1841-189l. I have a fairly comprehensive family tree of Daniel WINTERBOURNE 1837 - 1903 who married Ellen Maria MILLER 1838 - 1904 who lived closeby in George Street. The eldest son, Frederick WINTERBOURNE 1865 - 1936 married Saraj GRACE 1846 - 1946 and lived in Rose Cottage, Swan Street with their fourteen children. The youngest daughter May Ellen married Walter WILLIAMS and they emigrated to Canada in 1912. I endorse the recurring encouragement for Anti Virus protection. InitiaIly in my total ignorance I was of the opinion that it was somewhat unnecessary but subsequently experience has proved Norton Anti Virus to be essential. Valerie Stevens - Norwich