Hi Barbara thanks for the Marriages by Licence, all BATES'S mentioned are mine but I did have all that info already in my tree. However should any other researcher be interested in the BATES surname in the Northern part of Hampshire they may be able to help me. Because I'm still looking for the marriage of THOMAS BATES to MARIA which could have taken place Circa the 1680's. Reason for the CIRCA is that they had their first child baptised in St Mary's Church Kingsclere 20 February 1683. But I have never in the last 15 odd years been able to find their marriage! From Jim Bates that Fawkesian reprobate, who is claiming to be descended from Thomas Bates who was hanged, drawn and quartered in the St Pauls Churchyard 1606 for his involvement in the Gunpowder Plot. Read all about it on http://www.kingsclere.org.uk/gunpowder.html

----- Original Message ----- From: desni To: BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 2:04 AM Subject: re - Woodhouse and Hussey Hi Barbara, Mary Ann Woodhouse born 6th May 1851 Hedley Common/Mill Green Kingsclere Hampshire England. Father William Woodhouse - Mother Ann Bennett. William Woodhouse c. 1814 prob. Kingsclere Ann Bennett c.1819 prob. Kingsclere. Charles Hussey c. 1844 Ecchinswell Hampshire Eng. Married 27 September 1867/8 Headley Common Kingsclere Hampshire. Father William Hussey Mother Mary Somersby. They had children Sarah Ann b 1870 Ecchinswell Charles James b 1873 Ecchinswell Oliver George b 1875 Ecchinswell Gilbert Frank b 1876 Ecchinswell Mary Kate b 1878 Ecchinswell ( my g grandmother) Clara Jane b 1880 Ecchinswell Rose b 1882 London They immigrated to Australia where they had five or six more children . I hope this is not too much information. regards Desni

Hello All, Marriage found on the microfiche for the Allegations for Marriage Licences in Hampshire BEAL William senior of Whitchurch and Susannah WINCHWORTH of Woodhay widow at Whitchurch, Burghclere or Woodhay 9 November 1720 BEALE John of Ecchinswell labourer 50 and Martha Mills of Kingsclere 21 spinster 25 November 1771 BEAR James of Bramley, bachelor and Jane HALL of Brimpton, Berkshire at Kingsclere or Ecchinswell 11 June 1738 BEAUMONT Henry of Portsmouth husbandman bachelor and Elizabeth APPLETON of Kingsclere 23 spinster at St. John's Winchester or Kingsclere or Wolvesey 23 July 1702 BECKLEY Thomas of Bourne yeoman and Abigail CARTER of Ashmansworth spinster at Linkenholt 5 October 1731 BENHAM Daniel of Worting servantman 21 bachelor and Elizabeth TRAISH of Kingsclere 18 with c of her father William TRAISH of Kingsclere, cordwainer 7 March 1772 BENHAM John of Kingsclere husbandman bachelor and Mary TROND (FROND) of Kingsclere, at Basingstoke , Basing, or Up Nately 3 October 1709 BENNETT William of Newbury, Berkshire maltster 21 bachelor and Jane FLOWER of Kingsclere 21 spinster 30 December 1759 BENWELL Thomas of Kingsclere yeoman 25 bachelor and Elizabeth ROGERS 25 spinster of same 25 June 1766 BEZLEY James of Burghclere labourer 21 bachelor and Elizabeth SMITH of Longparish 21 spinster at Longparish 21 December 1798 Regards Barbara Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk

Hello All, Marriage found on the microfiche for the Allegations for Marriage Licences in Hampshire BAKER James of Kingsclere and Elizabeth MAN of thes at Whitchurch 26 September 1720 BATES Joseph of Kingsclere and Elizabeth CLARK of the same at Newtown 5 February 1780 Henry CLARK of Kingsclere bondsman. BATES James of Kingsclere husbandman, 21 bachelor and Mary GALLANT of the same, a minor with c of her father William GALLANT at Kingsclere 8 February 1755 BATES James of Kingsclere 25 yeoman and Mary GREEN of the same 18 spinster with c of her father John GREEN senior 27 July 1766. John Green junior of the same bondsman BATES John of Kingsclere yeoman 21 bachelor and Hannah OLIVER of the same widow 10 April 1771 BATES Joseph of Kingsclere husbandman, and Elizabeth HENWOOD of the same spinster 1 December 1757 BATES Thomas of Kingsclere, yeoman 21 bachelor and Mary GOVER of the same spinster 21years 14 June 1760 BATTEN William of Highclere mealman 21 bachelor and Mary HUGHES of Vernham Dean 21 spinster at Vernham Dean 25 May 1822 BAUGHIRST Thomas of Baughurst 24 bachelor and Ann SEXTON of Kingsclere 20 spinster with c of her mother at Kingsclere or St. Maurice Winchester 2 February 1690 BAVERSTOCK Thomas of Andover and Martha CROPP of the same at Crux Easton or Highclere 2 April 1726 BAYLY Nicholas of Kingsclere widower and Joan POCOCK of the same at Ecchinswell, Hannington or Wolverton 25 August 1720 Regards Barbara Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk

Hello All, Is anyone interested in Rosemary's message. Regards Barbara Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: <Rosemaryandian@aol.com> To: <HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2002 5:22 PM Subject: BAKER and others > Hi > > I have only recently joined the list. A number of my ancestors had > connections with the Hampshire area and, by way of introduction, I list below > brief details of the earliest confirmed Hampshire ancestor by surname - > > Charlotte BAKER - daughter of William Baker and Mary, baptised in Sherfield > on Loddon on 23 December 1792, married Joel Wicks (Wix) in Bramley on 16 > April 1811. > > Doris COLLINS - daughter of Frederick William COLLINS (a New Zealander) and > Nellie Kathleen POVEY born in Hampshire 1 December 1918. The family moved to > New Zealand during Doris' childhood. > > Hester DOOR - married John Harmsworth in Kingsclere on 11 February 1779 > > Rosina DRODGE - married Frederick Povey in Brockenhurst in 1870. > > Thomas FRANKLIN - son of Thomas Franklin and Mary, baptised in Basing on 20 > February 1743. Married Hannah Goodger on 18 May 1776 in Basing > > Elisabeth GARDENES - married Richard Harmsworth in Kingsclere during October > 1748 > > Hannah GOODGER - married Thomas Franklin in Basing on 18 May 1776 > > Richard HARMSWORTH - married Elisabeth Gardenes in Kingsclere during October > 1748 > > Frederick POVEY - married Rosina Drodge in Brockenhurst in 1870. Frederick > was originally from Kensal Green, Middlesex. The family settled in > Brockenhurst after the wedding. > > Tom (Thomas?) STREET - married Alice Povey from Brockenhurst (date unknown). > Tom was the village blacksmith in Brockenhurst during the early part of the > 20th century. > > Joel WICKS/WIX - baptised in Burghfield, Berkshire on 16 November 1785. > Married Charlotte Baker in Bramley on 16 April 1811. Died at Basing > Workhouse in 1862. > > Do any of these names ring a bell? I would be interested to hear from anyone > who believes they may have a connection. Further information can be obtained > from my website at http://www.geocities.com/rosemaryandian. > > Thanks > Rosemary Harper > Belfast, Northern Ireland > > All surnames, world-wide, 24 hours a day, chat and links -- <A HREF="http://www.justgen.com/">www.justgen.com</A> > > > > > > > ==== HAMPSHIRE Mailing List ==== > The aim of this list is to promote Hampshire genealogy research by sharing skills, knowledge and data. Everyone is expected to treat each other with the respect that we ourselves would hope to receive. >

You will find a reference to him on the First World War Memorial page of the Kingsclere site together with other Barnes' www.kingsclere.org.uk/memorial-pw.html Peter Goff Kingsclere, Hampshire, UK all outgoing e-mails are scanned for viruses. There are no attachments to this message

Hello All, Marriage found on the microfiche for the Allegations for Marriage Licences in Hampshire. ALLEN Edward of Kingsclere, warrener age 30 bachelor married Ann WARD of East Stratton age 21 spinster 11 January 1769 ALSEN Richard of East Woodhay and Mary WHARE of the same at Burghclere 1 August 1736 APPLETON Charles of Kingsclere husbandman and Sarah KEEPE of the same spinster 8 April 1773 ARLOTT Jesse of Kingsclere 21 bachelor and Charlotte BOYES of St. John's Winchester age 21 spinster at St. John's 2 February 1810 ARNOTT John of Kingsclere joiner bachelor and Elizabeth TROUGHTON of the same widow 17 May 1756 ARUNDEL John of Burghclere and Mary PACKER of Woodhay at Newtown 14 February 1717 ASTRIDGE alias WEBB John of Kingsclere, yeoman and Frances APPLETON of the same 23 July 1772 AWBERY Thomas of Hannington 21 bachelor and Jane WIGG of Monk Sherborne spinster a minor with c of her father? 9 March 1837 AYRES Adam of Burghclere servantman age 21 bachelor and Mary BROWN of the same age 25 widow 20 February 1762 Regards Barbara Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk

Whilst searching the net I found a soldier with Kingsclere connections See http://freespace.virgin.net/m.girling/Served/serve_b.htm and http://freespace.virgin.net/m.girling/Honour/roll_of_honour_b.htm for 8 Battalion City of London Rgt Post Office Rifles BARNES, Ralph George Son of Constance Barnes, of Kingsclere, Newbury, Berks, and the late John Barnes. Hope it helps someone Ann Sargeant, Basingstoke, Hants Researching: Batchelo(u)r, Arundell, Wigmore and Wisdom - all Kingsclere area --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.372 / Virus Database: 207 - Release Date: 20/06/02

On Wed, 12 Jun 2002 07:08:40 +0100 Colin Harris <Colin.Harris4@btinternet.com> wrote: > and for a Daniel GIRDLER marrying Ellen HUNT at Kingsclere in March > 1869 vol 2c page 319. In my rush to post my reply this morning I forgot to mention that Ellen Hunt's father was listed as Henry. I have her as bapt. 23 May 1843 St. Mary, Kingsclere (entry #1276) to Henry and Sarah (nee Aldridge) who married on 29 Oct 1829 at St. Mary's. Ellen has five siblings all but one older. > There is the death of an Ellen GIRDLER at Kingsclere in June 1865 vol > 2c page 137. It looks as tho' Ellen (Paice) was buried at St. Mary, Kingsclere (or outside the parish) as she is not listed in the Woodlands burials fiche in the June-Aug 1865 quarter. She was bapt 19 Nov 1843 to Thomas & Eliza ?, haven't seen their marriage as yet. -- John Lewis

On Wed, 12 Jun 2002 07:08:40 +0100 Colin Harris <Colin.Harris4@btinternet.com> wrote: > Hello all > > I have the following extracted from the GRO indexes: > > There is an entry for a Daniel GURDLER marrying Ellen PAICE at > Kingsclere in June 1863 vol 2c page 350 > and for a Daniel GIRDLER marrying Ellen HUNT at Kingsclere in March > 1869 vol 2c page 319. Daniel Married Ellen Hunt at St. Paul, Woodlands on 13 Feb 1869, register entry #217. He was a _Widower_ so he must have liked the name Ellen. Witnesses were John Smith and Emma Girdler (this is most likely the dau of David and Mary Ann (Wilmott) born ca 1850, as for John Smith your guess is as good as mine. I have a John who married Hannah Webb at St. Paul's in 1851 who could foot the bill). It seems likely there were no children of the first marriage and the children born from 1869 onwards are the result of this second marriage. -- John Lewis <jayell@ntlworld.com> from Bournemouth, Dorset, UK using Mandrake GNU/Linux 8.0 and Geneweb genealogy software Main Family Names in HAM are: Kingsclere area: BUTLER, COOPER, FISHER, FOSTER, GIRDLER, HAWKINS Hazeley Heath: BARKER, CHANDLER, LEWINGTON, NEVILL(E) Main Family Names in GLA are: Vale of Glamorgan: GRIFFITH Rumney: LEWIS Aberdare: HOPKINS & JENKINS and CMN: HOPKINS & DAVIES

Hello all I have the following extracted from the GRO indexes: There is an entry for a Daniel GURDLER marrying Ellen PAICE at Kingsclere in June 1863 vol 2c page 350 and for a Daniel GIRDLER marrying Ellen HUNT at Kingsclere in March 1869 vol 2c page 319. There is the death of an Ellen GIRDLER at Kingsclere in June 1865 vol 2c page 137. Does anyone know if the two Daniel's are the same person, if they are it was most inconsiderate of him to have two wives both with the same name <g>, also from the 1851 Census index and subsequent cenuses I think the Ellen's were the same age. Regards Colin

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Apologies for cross posting - but I thought it may interest some of you on all three lists to see photographs of our village celebrations in Highclere, North Hants over the last weekend. http://www.autumncottage.co.uk Regards Roz C.

I have traced my father's family back to 1789 in East Woodhay and Woolton Hill in Hampshire. The names I have so far are ROSE, BAKER, CRISWICK, ANSELL, AVERY and PALMER. I should be interested to hear from anyone researching any of these names in the area. George Rose

On Thu, 30 May 2002 23:07:01 GMT <pbalcerzak@wzrd.com> wrote: > Hello John, > My gg grandmother was Harriet Miles. She married George Boshier ( 1845 > ) in Hampshire. Do you have any information on Miles or Boshier? there are Miles families all over the place in Hampshire. I don't have any Harriet married to a George tho'. I do have a Mary Boshier who married William Chase in !823 then as a widow married John Foster in 1830. Both mariages took place in Sherfield on Loddon. Mary was born in Hartley Wespall ca 1805 but I have nothing else on her. The 1851 census lists no Boshier in or around Kingsclere. but there is a group of BOSIER in Stratfield Saye including a George age 26 but no Harriet. Also a George Boshier age 48. There is a bigger cluster in Hartley Wespall but the only George is 10 years old and still no Harriet. Struck luckey with Heckfield with George age 34 born Hartley Wespall and Harriet age 31 born Heckfield. They could have a 4 year old James and 1 year old Rebecca. Also on same 'bundle page 350' is Rebecca age 83. on page 349 are several other Boshiers. HTH -- John Lewis <jayell@ntlworld.com> from Bournemouth, Dorset, UK using Mandrake GNU/Linux 8.0 and Geneweb genealogy software Main Family Names in HAM are: Kingsclere area: BUTLER, COOPER, FISHER, FOSTER, GIRDLER, HAWKINS Hazeley Heath: BARKER, CHANDLER, LEWINGTON, NEVILL(E) Main Family Names in GLA are: Vale of Glamorgan: GRIFFITH Rumney: LEWIS Aberdare: HOPKINS & JENKINS and CMN: HOPKINS & DAVIES

Hello John, My gg grandmother was Harriet Miles. She married George Boshier ( 1845 ) in Hampshire. Do you have any information on Miles or Boshier? Hope to hear from you. Patricia (Pat) pbalcerzak@wzrd.com

Hello Barbara, My gg grandmother was Harriet Miles. She married George Boshier in 1845. I have just found out that her maiden name was Miles. I live in the USA. Hope to hear from you!! Any connection? Patricia (Pat) pbalcerzak@wzrd.com

Hello All, There have been a lot of complaints about Ancestry by the people who have joined. Nearly every Listowner of a rootsweb mailing list, has had complaints by their Listers about them. My advice to you is don't subscribe to them. Regards Barbara Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk

Dear All I was alerted to the following entry in the Kingsclere burials register by a kind member of the list.Thank you. Can anyone with a knowledge of Kingsclere give me some idea please whether Parsonage Farm and the two Rectory Cottages were one and the same dwelling? I have no access to the 1841 census for Kingsclere which possibly would give me a clue. Charlotte is my Grt Grt Grandmother. Kingsclere m/fiche No. 66 Charlotte Grigg...Parsonage Farm...1847 Feb 19...60 ...the bottom entry on the page and in the margin at the bottom of the page is written: Found dead in the snow near Robley Hill...The Midwife...The last who lived in Rectory then two Cottages. Thank you Maureen Grigg.