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for most of the 31 years I lived at Upper ash I was trying to find anther PRUDDAH MALE I can confirm there is only one ! my mother name KING is much more interesting HER FARTHER WAS a TRAVELLING harness maker the travellers that were to be seen WERE KINGS has any one on this site spoken with them while we were there we did join the RELF of KINGCLARE and many locals from afar did write to me to FIND out about the area I still have ALL the findings ROY PRUDDAH EX GARDENER to SIR FRANCIS &LADY PORTAL

On Sat, 20 Jul 2002 19:57:07 +0100 "Charlie and Monina" <cmrodgers@ntlworld.com> wrote: > Hello to all > Can anybody help me with the names...SIMPSON and BREWER I only have two Brewers recorded:- Cornelius who was living Bear Cottages in 1881, he was a widower when he married on 13 July 1861 at St. Mary, Kingsclere Sarah Ann Stevens who was born ca 1832 in Ibworth, Hants, neither are of Kingsclere origin. John Brewer born ca 1819 married Mary Ann Prout on 10 Oct 1840, Mary being a dau of John Prout and Hannah Appleton. Another family I haven't followed up as yet, but there are a couple of Prouts on this list who may be able to offer more. I have various unconnected Simpsons in my database so apart from Charles and Louise cannot offer any more help at present with this family, but someone else on the list may have all the details at their fingertips. -- John Lewis <jayell@ntlworld.com> from Bournemouth, Dorset, UK using GNU/Linux and Geneweb genealogy software Main Family Names in HAM are: Kingsclere area: BUTLER, COOPER, FISHER, FOSTER, GIRDLER, HAWKINS Hazeley Heath: BARKER, CHANDLER, LEWINGTON, NEVILL(E) Main Family Names in GLA are: Vale of Glamorgan: GRIFFITH Rumney: LEWIS Aberdare: HOPKINS & JENKINS and CMN: HOPKINS & DAVIES

Hello to all Can anybody help me with the names...SIMPSON and BREWER Many thanks Charlie

On Thu, 18 Jul 2002 14:57:06 +0100 "Charlie and Monina" <cmrodgers@ntlworld.com> wrote: > Hello to all, > This is the first time I have sent a message to the mailing list so I > hope I have set out the details below correctly. > > The names I would like information on are as follows, > MYRA ELIZABETH ALDRIDGE born 1867, she married TOM SMITH born > 1864approx and they married in 1887, their children were, MILDRED born Hello Charlie I have a Thomas Smith bapt. 25 Oct 1863 at St. Mary, Kingsclere to Daniel and Ann (Rolfe). I cannot check to see if he married Myra Elizabeth as I am waiting for the fiche containing marriages of that period from RO. Daniel and Ann were living in The Dell. They married at St. Paul, Woodlands on 10 Oct 1858 and had seven children. Daniel's father was a William Smith and therein lies the problem - just too many William Smiths to be able to decide which one at the moment. One of my reason for going to RO today was to collect Smith baptisms from the transcripts of the early parish rgisters which are very hard to read in fiche format. Myra Elizabeth Aldridge was baptised at St. Mary, Kingsclere on 13 Oct 1867 (margin note has her born Aug 19th) to Alfred and Mary Ann (Simpson). Alfred and Mary Ann were married at St. Mary 23 Aug 1866 and seem to have had only one other child Kate bapt. 21 Mar 1869. Alfred was born in Workhouse Lane, Kingsclere on 18 May 1840, bapt. St. Mary on 26 Jul 1840 to Henry and Mary Ann (Girdler) Mary Ann Simpson is likely to be Mary bapt 30 Aug 1846 to Charles and Louisa (Poulter) Hope this helps. I will keep looking for parents of Thomas Smith but may not be able sort out who is his father until I can see the marriage entry. -- John Lewis <jayell@ntlworld.com> from Bournemouth, Dorset, UK using GNU/Linux and Geneweb genealogy software Main Family Names in HAM are: Kingsclere area: BUTLER, COOPER, FISHER, FOSTER, GIRDLER, HAWKINS Hazeley Heath: BARKER, CHANDLER, LEWINGTON, NEVILL(E) Main Family Names in GLA are: Vale of Glamorgan: GRIFFITH Rumney: LEWIS Aberdare: HOPKINS & JENKINS and CMN: HOPKINS & DAVIES

Hello to all, This is the first time I have sent a message to the mailing list so I hope I have set out the details below correctly. The names I would like information on are as follows, MYRA ELIZABETH ALDRIDGE born 1867, she married TOM SMITH born 1864approx and they married in 1887, their children were, MILDRED born abt 1888 married name HANCOCKS ALICE born abt 1889/90 married name BREWER GURTRUDE AMY born 1891 married JAMES PALMER from BASINGSTOKE FRANCES ANNIE MAY born 1894 married name MARKLEY WILLIAM born ABT1896/97 GILBERT born ABT 1899/00 SEPTAMUS born 1901 EMILY born 1904 married name LINTOTT MYRA ELIZABETH ALDRIDGE parents were, ALFRED and MARY ANNE and her maiden name was Simpson, All the names above I believe came from THE DELL KINGSCLERE Looking forward to any replies Thanking you Charlie

----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol Lawrence" <carol@twpo.com.au Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2002 9:13 AM Subject: My Surnames List Hi All, I'm re-submitting my surnames just in case there are some new listers who haven't seen them. All are in the district of Kingsclere when they first appear on my tree. WOODHOUSE. Do you have an Elizabeth that might have married a William WOODHOUSE abt 1834. NEW. Do you have a Josua NEW b abt 1798, he maybe known as Jesse. JEWELL. I am searching for any information on the father of Jonathon b 1749 to Elizabeth JEWELL. his name was Francis LAWRENCE, the only things I know about him is that in 1748 he was living or working in Beenham, Berks. SMITH. Ann b abt 1738 m 1781 to Jonathon. CUMMINS Jane m Isaac WOODHOUSE 1792. This is a new one for me. Another lister was able to help me sort out my tree that had very twisted roots due to the habit of everyone calling their sons by the same names. I hope you may be able to help me break down a few brick walls. all the best, Carol.

Hello Charlie, Welcome to the Kingsclere rootsweb mailing list, good luck with your SMITH family research, we look forward to hearing from you. Regards Barbara Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk Listowner

Hello All At last I have updated the Surname Page on www.kingsclere.org.uk Sorry for the delay, too much proper work to do :=( Regards Peter Goff Kingsclere, Hampshire, UK www.kingsclere.org.uk All outgoing e-mails are scanned for viruses before despatch. There are no attachments to this message

Hello All, As from 6 July to the 13 July, I will be away on holiday. John Lewis will be looking after the Kingsclere rootsweb, if you have any problems please email John jayell@ntlworld.com I would like to tell you that work is being done to the Rootsweb mailing lists, this is a message that was put on the Surrey Rootsweb, so if a temporary shut down does occurs while I am away, you will know what is happening. Temporary shutdown of Eng-Surrey is imminent ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ This is an update to my advance admin announcement regarding a temporary shutdown of Rootsweb mailing lists. I have been advised by Rootsweb staff that the shutdown of the server that carries the Surrey list will happen soon. List operations will be halted during this time. List messages will stop. Your list postings will be delayed in appearing on the list. Subscribe and unsubscribe requests will also be affected. All mail will be stored and dealt with once the new hardware is up and running. So once the list stops, be patient and - PLEASE - don't send test messages asking why the list has stopped! Best wishes to you all Barbara Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk

Hi Barbara, I haven't found anyone on the Hants Allegations for Marriage Licence yet, but that doesn't mean I won't later. You definitely aren't wasting your time because, as far as I know, these lists are archived - so we all have access to them long after the date they are posted. So please keep up the good work! It's great to hear that so many people are researching Kingsclere. I have a query in regard to that district:- does Bramley in Hants come under Kingsclere? If so I will post my Bramley surname interests soon. I will also be in touch with Peter and John at the earliest opportunity. Kind regards, Candy Bridge NSW Australia --- ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > ATTACHMENT part 3 message/rfc822 > Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2002 17:39:13 +0100 > From: "Barbara Mallyon" > <BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk> > To: ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Marriage by Licence > > Hello All, > > I have listed the A and B of the Hampshire > Allegations of Marriage Licences, > has anyone found marriages that they did not know > about, or any information that > they did not know about. I do not want to go on > listing Marriages if it is a > waste of time to everyone including myself. > > Thank you Jim Bates for your information on the > list, I will keep a look out for > the Marriage of Thomas Bates to Maria. > > There are now 70 plus people all researching in > Kingsclere, I and others would > like to know the names that are being researched, > also does Peter Goff know the > surnames that you are researching to add to his > useful website > www.kingsclere.org.uk/memorial-pw.html look at > CONTENTS, then SURNAMES. > If not please send Peter an email with your research > details. > peter.goff@btinternet.com > > John Lewis is interested in your family tree to add > to the Kingsclere Family > Tree puzzle that he is working on, John tell me that > he has a lot of loose ends, > he would like to connect these to others family > trees. John may be able to help > you with your research if he knows your family tree > details. > email John on jayell@ntlworld.com > > I know the Kingsclere list is a little slow, I think > that is because people > email each other with research details, it would be > very nice and helpful to > others if more messages were put on the list. > > Happy Research Hunting on Kingsclere > > Best wishes > > Barbara Mallyon > Basingstoke, Hants, UK > BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk > Listowner > http://www.sold.com.au - SOLD.com.au - Find yourself a bargain!

Hello Candy, Thank you for your message. Please post your Bramley, Hants interests to the Kingsclere list. I come from Guildford, Surrey and just outside of Guildford there is the village of Bramley where my ancestors come from. I found this very confusing when I first came to live in Basingstoke, when people spoke about Bramley, to think that there was another Bramley here in Hampshire. Regards Barbara Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Candy Bridge" <candyb13@yahoo.co.uk> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 9:53 PM Subject: Re: Allegations for Marriage > Hi Barbara, > > I haven't found anyone on the Hants Allegations for > Marriage Licence yet, but that doesn't mean I won't > later. You definitely aren't wasting your time > because, as far as I know, these lists are archived - > so we all have access to them long after the date they > are posted. So please keep up the good work! > > It's great to hear that so many people are researching > Kingsclere. I have a query in regard to that > district:- does Bramley in Hants come under > Kingsclere? If so I will post my Bramley surname > interests soon. I will also be in touch with Peter and > John at the earliest opportunity. > > Kind regards, > Candy Bridge > NSW Australia > > --- ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-D-request@rootsweb.com > wrote: > > > > ATTACHMENT part 3 message/rfc822 > > Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2002 17:39:13 +0100 > > From: "Barbara Mallyon" > > <BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk> > > To: ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Marriage by Licence > > > > Hello All, > > > > I have listed the A and B of the Hampshire > > Allegations of Marriage Licences, > > has anyone found marriages that they did not know > > about, or any information that > > they did not know about. I do not want to go on > > listing Marriages if it is a > > waste of time to everyone including myself. > > > > Thank you Jim Bates for your information on the > > list, I will keep a look out for > > the Marriage of Thomas Bates to Maria. > > > > There are now 70 plus people all researching in > > Kingsclere, I and others would > > like to know the names that are being researched, > > also does Peter Goff know the > > surnames that you are researching to add to his > > useful website > > www.kingsclere.org.uk/memorial-pw.html look at > > CONTENTS, then SURNAMES. > > If not please send Peter an email with your research > > details. > > peter.goff@btinternet.com > > > > John Lewis is interested in your family tree to add > > to the Kingsclere Family > > Tree puzzle that he is working on, John tell me that > > he has a lot of loose ends, > > he would like to connect these to others family > > trees. John may be able to help > > you with your research if he knows your family tree > > details. > > email John on jayell@ntlworld.com > > > > I know the Kingsclere list is a little slow, I think > > that is because people > > email each other with research details, it would be > > very nice and helpful to > > others if more messages were put on the list. > > > > Happy Research Hunting on Kingsclere > > > > Best wishes > > > > Barbara Mallyon > > Basingstoke, Hants, UK > > BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk > > Listowner > > > > > http://www.sold.com.au - SOLD.com.au > - Find yourself a bargain! > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

1901 Online service Latest statement from the PRO 1 July 2002: Update. The Public Record Office apologises for how long the testing has been taking. We are aware that six months have passed since 1901 Census Online was first launched. Both the PRO and QinetiQ Ltd, who are responsible for the technical aspects of the service, are testing the system. The nature of testing is such that it throws up issues that need to be addressed, and on occasion requires tests to be re-done. The primary objective is to ensure that the website is sufficiently robust, so that our customers can have a satisfactory experience when they use it. This has meant that we cannot give precise dates for the return of the service and we do not want to raise expectations by giving deadlines that are not met. We are aware that this has caused much frustration to our customers, frustration which we share, and for which we apologise. The PRO is committed to creating online access to our most popular records and we are continuing with our other projects. Regards Barbara Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk

In article <008901c22054$cb13a840$c82901d5@barbara>, Barbara Mallyon <BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk> writes >Hello All, > >I have listed the A and B of the Hampshire Allegations of Marriage Licences, >has anyone found marriages that they did not know about, or any information that >they did not know about. I do not want to go on listing Marriages if it is a >waste of time to everyone including myself. I have found them very interesting as there are a number of Berkshire people listed. I have therefore been able to extract these to add to the Berkshire strays index which I am compiling on behalf of the Berkshire Family history society. If anyone has any Berkshire Strays in the Kingsclere area then I would be very pleased to hear from them with details! -- Margaret Young margaret@breadmore.org Breadmore One-Name Study (GOONS 2503) http://www.breadmore.org/

Hello All, The Kingsclere Historical Society has produced a Video called Portrait of Kingsclere, the video runs for approx 1 hour. The video is an amateur production, cost £10.00 and is for the UK use only. You are taken around Kingsclere and shown some of the houses etc., you are given the history of the house which is interesting, there is a running commentary. The Video is worth having if you have never been to Kingsclere. If anyone is interested in the Video, please email me for the address to write to snail mail. Regards Barbara Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk

Hi Everyone Thanks Barbara for the Marriage Allegations. I haven't been able to use any yet but it has helped to rule out a few people and suggest alternative parishes to search. I am researching the following names in Kingsclere and surrounding parishes: WOOFF NORRIS GO(U)LDING GEORGE SMITH H(O)USE EVANS EXELL BYE KNIGHT HARMSWORTH BOURNE HENWOOD HUNT BUTLER GUNDRY I would love to hear from anyone with an interest in any of them. Regards Lindsay WOOFF

Hello All, I have listed the A and B of the Hampshire Allegations of Marriage Licences, has anyone found marriages that they did not know about, or any information that they did not know about. I do not want to go on listing Marriages if it is a waste of time to everyone including myself. Thank you Jim Bates for your information on the list, I will keep a look out for the Marriage of Thomas Bates to Maria. There are now 70 plus people all researching in Kingsclere, I and others would like to know the names that are being researched, also does Peter Goff know the surnames that you are researching to add to his useful website www.kingsclere.org.uk/memorial-pw.html look at CONTENTS, then SURNAMES. If not please send Peter an email with your research details. peter.goff@btinternet.com John Lewis is interested in your family tree to add to the Kingsclere Family Tree puzzle that he is working on, John tell me that he has a lot of loose ends, he would like to connect these to others family trees. John may be able to help you with your research if he knows your family tree details. email John on jayell@ntlworld.com I know the Kingsclere list is a little slow, I think that is because people email each other with research details, it would be very nice and helpful to others if more messages were put on the list. Happy Research Hunting on Kingsclere Best wishes Barbara Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk Listowner

Hello All, Marriage found on the microfiche for the Allegations for Marriage Licences in Hampshire BUNDY James of Overton 21 bachelor and Elizabeth Harmsworth of the same 21 spinster at Overton 21 January 1795 BURLE Richard of Kingsclere and Amy HANKIN of the same spinster at Upton Grey 5 January 1723 BUSHNELL William of Ecchinswell 21 bachelor and Charlotte CARPENTER of Heckfield spinster daughter of James CARPENTER, who consent at Heckfield 14 November 1787 BUTLER James of Baughurst labourer and Elizabeth WHOODLEY of Ibsworth spinster at Wolverton 14 February 1742 BUTLER James of Highclere, yeoman widow and Ann Elizabeth SWALLOW of St. Mary's Southampton 21 spinster at St. Mary's Southampston 18 September 1823 BUTLER Richard of Aldermaston, Berkshire a minor with the c of his father William BUTLER of Baughurst and Sarah RUMONY of Silchester 21 spinster at Silchester 4 January 1798 BUXEY Richard of Greenham, Berkshire and Martha LANE of Ecchinswell at Kingsclere or Ecchinswell 14 April 1735 Regards Barbara Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk

Hello All, Marriage found on the microfiche for the Allegations for Marriage Licences in Hampshire. BRAMLEY William of Andover, steward 21 bachelor & Charlotte ARTHUR of Highclere 21 spinster married at Highclere 9 May 1817 BRIANT John of Kingsclere draper 21 bachelor and Elizabeth CARTER of the same spinster 21 at Kingsclere 13 October 1818. Thomas Carter of the same farmer, bondsman. BRIDGMAN William of Brimpton, Berkshire servantman 18 bachelor with c of his father Thomas BRIDGMAN and Elizabeth WILLIAMS of Kingsclere 18 spinster with c of her father Richard WILLIAMS 17 August 1759 BROWN George of Kintbury, Berkshire bachelor and Elizabeth BRASIER of Ashmansworth spinster at Litchfield 27 December 1708 BROWN John of Overton yeoman 60 and Martha BEMOUNT of Sydmonton 53 spinster 16 April 1760 BROWN John of Stanford-Dingley, Berkshire, fellmonger 25 bachelor and Mary CLEMENTS of Kingsclere 22 spinster 1 September 1774. Joshua CLEMENTS junior of Kingsclere fellmonger, bondsman. BROWN Thomas of Kingsclere labourer 34 and Sarah ASTRIDGE of the same 40 spinster 15 October 1772 BROWNE George of Hannington warrener bachelor and Hannah DREWETT of the same spinster at ? 30 March 1709 (no place name given) BROWNJOHN Obadiah of Ecchinswell 21 bachelor & Elizabeth TAYLOR of St. Peter, Cheeshill, Winchester 21 at St. Peter Cheeshill, 23 September 1824 BRUNTON Richard of Kingsclere bachelor and Ann BARNS of the same at Andover 2 July 1740 BUDD William junior of Oakley Farmer bachelor a minor with c of his father William BUDD of Northington Farm and Sarah HIDE of Hannington 24 spinster at Hannington 22 June 1803 BULLOCKE John of Kingsclere and Mary WIDMORE of the same at Kingsclere or Whitchurch 18 March 1727 BULPET John of Highclere yeoman bachelor and Elizabeth HAYES of Tynely sic Tylney spinster at Weyhill , Fyfield or Andover 17 December 1737 BUNCE Francis of Kingsclere and Ann ADAMS of the same at Newtown 25 May 1721 Regards Barbara Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk

Hello All, Marriage found on the microfiche for the Allegations for Marriage Licences in Hampshire. BIGGS Peter of Monk Sherborne 30 bachelor & Mary GREEN of Baughurst 21 spinster daughter of William GREEN married at Baughurst, Eastrop or Worting 17 July 1693 BLAKE Thomas of Tangley and Joan CARTER of same at Burghclere 18 February 1734 BLISSET James of Burghclere and Margaret SHEPHERD of Newtown at Newtown 1 August 1720 BODNELL John of Kingsclere and Ann BARTON of the same married at Newtown 9 February 1735 BOLTON Daniel of Thatcham, Berkshire and Amy HAWKINS of Kingsclere spinster married at Kingsclere 24 December 1740 BOND John of Highclere, yeoman bachelor and Mary BIGS of Crux Easton spinster married at Crux Easton 1 May 1703 BOND William of Highclere and Ann ANDREWS of Collingborn Ye Lower, Wiltshire married at Highclere or Whitchurch 27 August 1725 BOND William of Highclere and Elizabeth SYLVER of Baughurst married at Highclere, Newtown, Baughurst or Whitchurch 16 May 1726 BOOTH John Junior of Ecchinswell 21 and Mary AYRES of the same 21 spinster 26 May 1762 BOX William of Bradfield, Berkshire and Jane ARUNDEL of Burghclere married at Burghclere 10 February 1730 Regards Barbara Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk