Hi All (especially Peter Goff and Colin Harris) The 1901 Census extraction tips are absolutely wizard. They have saved me hours of work and pounds of dosh. Thanks to you both. The tips are highly recommended by me. -- Best regards, Peter McNulty peter@sparshott.org.uk www.sparshott.org.uk Researching: SPARSHOTT families world-wide WICKHAM in north Kent. EDGARD - any time, any place, anywhere. GREENWELL - north east England. LONGHURST (Isaac) - Coldharbour, SRY ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Goff" <peter.goff@btinternet.com> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 7:55 PM Subject: 1901 census family group extractor > Hello All > > Here is some information about a small utility that you run in Excel to sort data extracted from the PRO Census site into family groups. I have tried it and it works. > > Unfortunately it only came to my notice after I had done the same thing by hand with 2500 Goff's. > > I quote .............. > "For the benefit of those list members who have not seen the free > items below, they are very useful. > > 1901 Census Extractor @ > http://www.leedsindexers.co.uk/Internet_Tools.htm#1901Extractor > > Census Extractor provides a 'pro forma' Microsoft Excel set of sheets > complete with macros. > > What you do is simply select and copy your 1901 search results and > paste them directly into the Census Extractor data sheet provided. > > One of the macros will enable you to then extract the unique Page ID > number and the Person ID number for each of the listed search > responses. > > A second macro' will estimate and list the piece and folio numbers. > In practice I have found the folio numbers to be accurate to within '+' > or '-' one folio. > > By sorting the Page and Person ID no's it is possible to workout > family units. > > 1901 Census GuessTimator @ > http://www.leedsindexers.co.uk/Internet_Tools.htm#GuessTimator > > This is actually a tiny programme. > > What you get is a little box in which you enter the 'unique' Page ID > number that is revealed in the lower bar of the 1901 search results > window which is easily accessed by allowing your cursor to 'hang' > over the 'image icons'. > > Census GuessTimator will then produce a Piece and Folio number > as above." > > Regards > > Peter Goff > Kingsclere, Hampshire, UK > www.kingsclere.org.uk > > All outgoing e-mails are scanned for viruses before despatch. > There are no attachments to this message > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Dear Listers, I understand there is someone there researching the family HUNT My husbands GGGFather was William Hunt born 1834 Eastern Cape, South Africa. d 22/5/1927 buried Grahamstown. m to Elizabeth Jane b 1848 , 17/8/1921 also Grahamstown. and I have the family from then to now. We were always told that they were 1820 settlers to the Cape, but realise now that they were descendents of settlers. We have no further information and knowing that he was British are keen to find out any further details. I am trying to find out where he was baptised (all his children were in Grahamstown Catholic church) and hopefully then will find out his parents names. has anyone got a pair who came out to south Africa in 1820? Would like to hear Charlotte in Swaziland potstreet@africaonline.co.sz

Jane, There is someone on the GOONS site(Guild Of One Name Studies)doing a study of ELSBURY,might be worth contacting him,unless you already know him!! clive.elsbury@one-name.org Elizabeth __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com

Hi All I have received the following equiry through my web site from Karen Corbo in Australia. karencorbo@austarnet.com.au . Can anybody help her? Peter, Still chasing James Hillett born Shillingford, Berkshire, 1817-1822. Parents William Hillett & Martha Love. Have also a Eliza Hillett 13/4/1823 to William Hillett & Martha.Also Ann Hillitt 1/3/1835 William Hillitt & Ann both born Kingsclere, Hampshire. Would this be in the same area as my GGGrandfather was born, trying to find a connection.Can't find a marriage for a William Hillett & Martha Love in Berkshire. Can you help. Karen Corbo. Australia. Regards Peter Goff Kingsclere, Hampshire, UK www.kingsclere.org.uk All outgoing e-mails are scanned for viruses before despatch. There are no attachments to this message

On Wed, 11 Sep 2002 22:58:36 +0100 Chris Swann wrote: > Hello all, > > I am tracing the above family name and have the following > information > > Gabriel ELSBURY b abt 1822 Sydmonton GGGF > Mary FOSTER b abt 1821 Kingsclere ? GGGM Possibly the Mary Foster born Summershurst Green and bapt. St. Mary Kingsclere 30 Sept. 1821, da. of Stephen & Elizabeth (Taylor) Foster. Stephen was born about 1877 at Knowl Hill, son of James and Elizabet (Fuce), Elizabeth born about 1791, parents may be William & Elizabeth Taylor of Knowl Hill. We have Stephen Foster's line a further generation back to a William Smith aka Foster and Mary. There is a long tree of descendants of William & Mary with living descendants in Kingsclere today. Ilsley is a name that is found in early Kingsclere parish registers but at present I only have a few of them, all marriages that took place around 1760-1780. I don't have the particular marriage you refer to so will be checking the register for it later. > They had 4 children ? > > Ann Elizabeth > Charles GGF > Frederick James > Frank > > I have just found that the family name may have changed to > ELSBURY/ELLESBURY from ILSLEY > > Is there anyone searching these names who may be able to > provide any help ? Hope this has been of help --- John Lewis <jayellatntlworlddotcom> from Bournemouth, Dorset, UK. using Debian GNU/Linux and Geneweb genealogy software Main Family Names in HAM are: Kingsclere: BUTLER, COOPER, FISHER, FOSTER, GIRDLER, HAWKINS, SMITH Hazeley Heath: BARKER, CHANDLER, LEWINGTON, NEVILL(E) Main Family Names in GLA are: GRIFFITH, HOPKINS, JENKINS, LEWIS. MORGAN, PHILLIPS and CMN: HOPKINS, DAVIES

Hello all, I am tracing the above family name and have the following information Gabriel ELSBURY b abt 1822 Sydmonton GGGF Mary FOSTER b abt 1821 Kingsclere ? GGGM They had 4 children ? Ann Elizabeth Charles GGF Frederick James Frank I have just found that the family name may have changed to ELSBURY/ELLESBURY from ILSLEY Is there anyone searching these names who may be able to provide any help ? Thanks in advance, Jane Swann

Hello All Here is some information about a small utility that you run in Excel to sort data extracted from the PRO Census site into family groups. I have tried it and it works. Unfortunately it only came to my notice after I had done the same thing by hand with 2500 Goff's. I quote .............. "For the benefit of those list members who have not seen the free items below, they are very useful. 1901 Census Extractor @ http://www.leedsindexers.co.uk/Internet_Tools.htm#1901Extractor Census Extractor provides a 'pro forma' Microsoft Excel set of sheets complete with macros. What you do is simply select and copy your 1901 search results and paste them directly into the Census Extractor data sheet provided. One of the macros will enable you to then extract the unique Page ID number and the Person ID number for each of the listed search responses. A second macro' will estimate and list the piece and folio numbers. In practice I have found the folio numbers to be accurate to within '+' or '-' one folio. By sorting the Page and Person ID no's it is possible to workout family units. 1901 Census GuessTimator @ http://www.leedsindexers.co.uk/Internet_Tools.htm#GuessTimator This is actually a tiny programme. What you get is a little box in which you enter the 'unique' Page ID number that is revealed in the lower bar of the 1901 search results window which is easily accessed by allowing your cursor to 'hang' over the 'image icons'. Census GuessTimator will then produce a Piece and Folio number as above." Regards Peter Goff Kingsclere, Hampshire, UK www.kingsclere.org.uk All outgoing e-mails are scanned for viruses before despatch. There are no attachments to this message

Anyone interested in Charlotte Webb, who was about 18 years old in 1825 ( and I assume was of Kingsclere)? I have a copy of a testimonial letter describing her, dated 13/12/1825, and would be glad to send a copy on request. Best wishes Tim Linnell

Having looked at the wills of John Foster, father and son, I need to add another name to my ever growing list of family names, that of KING. John Foster snr. had a daughter Ann(e) born about Oct 1799 in Kingsclere. In his will he leaves £1000 to his daughter Anne King. John Foster jnr. in a codicil refers to 'Mrs King my first wife's mother in law' In 1793 a John Foster marries Sarah King in Thatcham. A Sarah King is baptised in Burghfield in 1768. John Foster jnr's first wife is Sarah ? (his second wife is also Sarah but I know about her as she is my 2xgt-grandmother) The dates of Sarah K's baptism, the marriage and date of first child of John and Sarah all suggest there is a link. what would help confirm this would be names of Sarah's parents, if they are X and Ann(e) it could be that he married a cousin. I know about a Sarah King who was born in Kingsclere in 1773 but while this Sarah's mother was not Ann she is a possiblity. So if anyone has access to Burghfield parish registers and could look her up it will be a big help. In the meantime I am going to be looking at Kingsclere fiche for any Kings. Any info on the Thatcham marriage such as witnesses could be useful as well. --- John Lewis <jayellatntlworlddotcom> from Bournemouth, Dorset, UK. using Debian GNU/Linux and Geneweb genealogy software Main Family Names in HAM are: Kingsclere: BUTLER, COOPER, FISHER, FOSTER, GIRDLER, HAWKINS, SMITH Hazeley Heath: BARKER, CHANDLER, LEWINGTON, NEVILL(E) Main Family Names in GLA are: GRIFFITH, HOPKINS, JENKINS, LEWIS. MORGAN, PHILLIPS and CMN: HOPKINS, DAVIES

Hi All, I am looking for information on one William Smallbone Hussey. On the 1851 Census William and Mary Hussey were living at Ecchinswell with five of their children. William said he was born in 1812 at Tilehurst in Berkshire found a baptism for him there to William and Sarah Hussey.William (Snr) said he was born in 11783 at Beenham in Berkshire. The only William Hussey baptised anywhere around that time was William Smallbone Hussey the illegitimate son of Martha Hussey. There was also a baptism a bit further down the following year for a James Smallbone Hussey the illegitimate son of Ann Hussey. I assume Ann and Martha were sisters though I have been unable to find where they come from. Can anyone help?

Hello All, Roger my spouse and I are off on our Summer Holiday, tomorrow 3 - 19 September. Julie Cheesman will be looking after the list for the 2 weeks, Julie is Listowner for the Sussex rootsweb. If you need to contact Julie this is her email address :- juliec@clara.co.uk Best wishes to you all Barbara Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk Listowner

Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page Contrib(s) Deaths Mar 1883 BAGGS George 33 Kingsclere 2c 161 Bullitt BENHAM Alfred 0 Kingsclere 2c 161 Bullitt BROWN Female 0 Kingsclere 2c 161 jonrouse COOPER Maria 75 Kingsclere 2c 161 Bullitt HARMSWORTH Joseph 82 Kingsclere 2c 161 esrun Hart William Ernest 0 Kingsclere 2c 161 LindaCrouch ROLFE Eliza 67 Kingsclere 2c 161 JWhitmore SEYMOUR John 77 Kingsclere 2c 161 Alan VINCENT William 86 Kingsclere 2c 161 Loudas Weston George 54 Kingsclere 2c 161 floerose Wheeler Mary 90 Andover 2c 161 floerose Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page Contrib(s) Deaths Mar 1883 BAGGS George 33 Kingsclere 2c 161 Bullitt BENHAM Alfred 0 Kingsclere 2c 161 Bullitt BROWN Female 0 Kingsclere 2c 161 jonrouse COOPER Maria 75 Kingsclere 2c 161 Bullitt HARMSWORTH Joseph 82 Kingsclere 2c 161 esrun Hart William Ernest 0 Kingsclere 2c 161 LindaCrouch ROLFE Eliza 67 Kingsclere 2c 161 JWhitmore SEYMOUR John 77 Kingsclere 2c 161 Alan VINCENT William 86 Kingsclere 2c 161 Loudas Weston George 54 Kingsclere 2c 161 floerose Wheeler Mary 90 Andover 2c 161 floerose Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page Contrib(s) Births Sep 1862 DOE Elizabeth Jane Kingsclere 2c 187 pepplerpee CHITTLE Jane Kingsclere 2c 187 maxe COOPER Amy Kingsclere 2c 187 maxe GALE Sophia Kingsclere 2c 187 yeoman HAM Charles Kingsclere 2c 187 June34 Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page Contrib(s) Marriages Dec 1854 Dennis Mary Kingsclere 2c 371 Malc Hart Charles Kingsclere 2c 371 sgaunt Nation James Kingsclere 2c 371 precisa Palmer Ann Tring? 2c 371 scotland Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page Contrib(s) Marriages Dec 1869 Hart Charles Kingsclere 2c 469 stevehowden Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page Contrib(s) Marriages Jun 1895 Andrews William Andover 2c 447 Lensubee Hart Charles Kingsclere 2c 447 iek Staddon Mary Bowden Andover 2c 447 VectisKathleen Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page Contrib(s) Marriages Dec 1841 BREWER James Foley Kingsclere 7 221 Baron HOCKLEY Charlotte Kingsclere 7 221 LAH HOLLEY Sarah Kingsclere 7 221 JDixon HUNT John Kingsclere 7 221 jmmccar POWERS William Kingsclere 7 221 587999 ROLFE William Kingsclere 7 221 snolock RUSS Charlotte Kingsclere 7 221 AllenBowler SEWARD Betsey Kingsclere 7 221 agricola Regards Barbara Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk

Colin Thanks for the tip I will certainly try it out. It would get rather expensive to keep down loading all the images that I need Regards Peter Goff Kingsclere, Hampshire, UK www.kingsclere.org.uk www.langdon-goff.org.uk All outgoing emails are scanned for viruses

Hello All, Information I have come across in my research on Free BM&D http://FreeBMD.RootsWeb.com/ Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page Contrib(s) Deaths Sep 1883 BUTLER Arthur 2 Kingsclere 2c 127 Jan91 BUTLER Esther 4 Kingsclere 2c 127 Jan91 BUTLER Laurie Bradley 2 Kingsclere 2c 127 Jan91 Harle Male 0 Kingsclere 2c 127 hagen88 Hayson Sophia 64 Kingsclere 2c 127 grumney Hayward Jacob 85 Kingsclere 2c 127 grumney MORGAN Thomas 64 Kingsclere 2c 127 deejayr PRIOR Ann 68 Kingsclere 2c 127 suwest Seymour Thomas 75 Kingsclere 2c 127 gw4jlk Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page Contrib(s) Births Sep 1871 Hedges Mary Ann Kingsclere 2c 207 wrtj HOLDWAY Olive Kingsclere 2c 207 shirlssmith Jacob William James W Kingsclere 2c 207 Kenny Seymour Thomas Kingsclere 2c 207 Maurice Simmonds Alice Kingsclere 2c 207 Maurice SMITH Wilfred George Kingsclere 2c 207 GAA Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page Contrib(s) Marriages Dec 1886 HAYES William George Kingsclere 2c 434 ihol HUSSEY Alice Kingsclere 2c 434 Bullitt Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page Contrib(s) Marriages Jun 1888 ELLINGHAM Arthur William Kingsclere 2c 429 ronward Hussey Alice Kingsclere 2c 429 djshaw * Seymour George Kingsclere 2c 429 GB46 * SWAIT Hannah Kingsclere 2c 429 Georgie * Alice Hussey married George Seymour. Was this Alice's 2nd marriage Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page Contrib(s) Deaths Dec 1893 Fosbury James 85 Kingsclere 2c 146 Jayne01 Fosbury Joshua 68 Kingsclere 2c 146 Jayne01 Greethurst Antoinette 67 Kingsclere 2c 146 jeangord75 Harle John 65 Kingsclere 2c 146 slyviam Long Emma 48 Kingsclere 2c 146 Algee Seymour Henry George 50 Kingsclere 2c 146 SmithPM West Jane 74 Kingsclere 2c 146 Audrey2 Hope this helps someone. Regards Barbara Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Hello All Something that may assist some of you in making sense of the search results you obtain from the 1901 census. I'm not sure if it will work for you but what I do is 1. Copy the whole web page to the clipboard and then paste it into an Excel spreadsheet, I carry on copying all the pages until I have the lot, the limit on the search seems to be 300 hits as far as I can tell so you may need to be imaginative in your searches if you get too many. 2.I then tidy up the formatting and delete all the extraneous rubbish that has been copied, you should end up with a blank column headed "Image" as the first column. 3. Now the clever bit, in Excel (don't know if this works in other programs) you hover the mouse over the persons name and up pops the URL for that persons record, the last part of which is a unique numeric identifier which I then type into the "Image" column. Once they are all typed in it is just a question of sorting on the first column and they will then be in family group order. Of course you don't know the relationships but in most cases they should be obvious. I think it may be possible to refine this even further by using the advanced person search but I haven't investigated this yet, I do know that advanced searches allow you to look for Heads and Wives so it should not be too difficult to include this information as well in the spread sheet. This came from a tip that I think Guy Etchell's posted on one of the other lists. Feel free to pass this on to others as you see fit. Regards Colin Harris Yeading, Middlesex Researching IVE GIRDLER/GURDLER HARRIS - Oxfordshire HARVEY - Dorset

Hello All I am having a lot of success with the free searches but have had even more surprises when I downloaded the actual enumerators pages. I found family members who I did not know existed, ie born after 1891 and also an adopted Gt Uncle who had been a mystery for ages. It all works OK but tends to give a "page not found" occassionally. Good hunting Peter Goff Kingsclere, Hampshire, UK www.kingsclere.org.uk All outgoing e-mails are scanned for viruses before despatch. There are no attachments to this message

Hello All, I am pleased to hear by your reports that you are making the most of the 1901 Census free trial. If you are having trouble finding names in Kingsclere, go to "Advance Person Search". Last Name: enter the SURNAME Administrative County: put in SOUTHAMPTON Civil Parish: put in KINGSCLERE Limit result list to "30" then SEARCH Regards Barbara Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk

Hello All, News from the Federation of Family History Societies "WELCOME TO THE 1901 CENSUS WEBSITE Test Site The 1901 Census Online service is currently running as a test site. During this period the service will be available 09.00 to 19.00 hours (GMT+1 hour) Monday to Saturday. We are conducting this test phase in order to undertake detailed monitoring and further optimise the site settings to ensure a good user experience for the high levels of demand we expect when we launch the live service. Users have asked for an indication of how their searches are progressing, and in response, a queuing mechanism is now provided, allowing you to see where you are in the queue for search results. To permit more users to access the database and maximise throughput during early days of operation, users are being limited to 2 hours of continuous use. At least one operation (such as a search, display of search details or image download) must be conducted every 15 minutes to stay active on the system, but note that accessing the Help pages is not classed as an activity for this purpose." End Regards Barbara Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk

Peter It says it is only available between those hours but I accessed it a midnight last night. And found 138 of my Wiblin's and possible where my Spicer's form Hannington moved to Sue Matthews Abingdon, Oxon wiblin@one-name.org -----Original Message----- From: Peter Goff [mailto:peter.goff@btinternet.com] Sent: 29 August 2002 19:22 To: ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: 1901 census Barbara I solved the reason I could not gain access. It is only available from 0900 hrs - 1900 hrs Monday-Friday Regards Peter Goff ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Barbara I solved the reason I could not gain access. It is only available from 0900 hrs - 1900 hrs Monday-Friday Regards Peter Goff