Hello All, I have put Patricia's message on the list for other SMITH researchers to read. Please put all replies on the list, many thanks. Barbara. ----- Original Message ----- From: Don and Patricia Earl To: BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 11:50 PM Subject: Smith Family of Kingsclere Hello Barbara! I notice that you are researching two Smith families from Kingsclere. I'm afraid I don't have much information on MY Smith line, but there's always hope. Here's what I have: Hannah Smith, born Kingsclere about 1774, married George Vince at Kingsclere 31 October 1797. They had at least four children: James 1805, John 1808, Charles 1810, Hannah 1812. I am descended from John. Does anything sound familiar? Thanks, and good luck to you! Patricia (Vince) Earl

Hello Jennifer, Thank you for your reply. Your direct line is linked with the BRIDGMAN family, Daniel's sister Rose Ann BRIDGMAN married John HOLLY, if you would like more details on these families I can give them to you. Can you please tell me, what is the date when was Eliza born or baptised, many thanks. There are other researches interested in the BRIDGMAN family, they will be please to have this information.. Regards Barbara Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "jthornton" <jthornton@ntlworld.com> To: "Barbara Mallyon" <BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk> Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 8:37 AM Subject: Re: Eliza BRADLEY > Hello Barbara, > > I got so carried away thinking that I was going to find exactly where the > died at sea one fitted,I forgot Richard's daughter.A VERY senior moment! > Eliza's brother William,bp.7 Feb 1836,is my direct line.Did you know that > Richard was bp.17 Jan 1790 at Frilsham parish church,Berks,son of John > BRADLEY & Mary POWEL? > > I have got Eliza;s bp.13 Apr 1823 but you could well know better.I didn't > know her marriage Thank you. > > Best wishes > Jennifer Thornton > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Barbara Mallyon" <BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk> > To: "jthornton" <jthornton@ntlworld.com> > Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 10:56 PM > Subject: Re: Eliza BRADLEY > > > Hello Jennifer, > > My Eliza BRADLEY was born about 1817 her father was Richard BRADLEY. > Eliza married Daniel BRIDGMAN 25 November 1843 Kingsclere. > > Thank you for your reply, in genealogy you never know. You might like this > information for your files. > > Regards > > Barbara Mallyon > Basingstoke, Hants, UK > BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk > > >

Hello All, My family tree for Kingsclere has grown since this list has been going:- MILES BRIDGMAN HOLLEY HARRISON Elizabeth DIXON TARGET SEYMOUR HUSSEY Alice WATTS Mark COLLINS Eliza GIRDLER Ada SMITH Harriett and William ROLFE Sarah Louisa WYTHE Hannah LAWRENCE BRADLEY Eliza TAYLOR I would be please to hear from anyone that can link into my family tree, some of the surnames I have listed, also link up with again with other surnames that I have listed. Like two lots of Smith's. Kind regards Barbara Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk

Hi All The virus which you may have recently received may have come via my own computer even though I updated my virus definitions on Monday evening on return from a short holiday! It has taken the best part of two hours to make my machine virus free as one of the insidious things this virus does is to disable the virus checker. As it has its own SMTP engine you won't see the infected messages being sent they will just go out whenever you are on line. Just to be doubly safe - when you delete infected messages use the key combination Shift+Delete and not Caps Lock+Delete -- Best regards, Peter McNulty peter@sparshott.org.uk www.sparshott.org.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Goff" <peter.goff@btinternet.com> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 7:24 PM Subject: Another virus > Hello All > > Just had a web site sparshot.org.uk send me an email subject THE POT which had an attachment with a virus. I dont know what virus as Norton deleted it. > > Keep alert, > > Regards > > Peter Goff > Kingsclere, Hampshire, UK > www.kingsclere.org.uk > > All outgoing e-mails are scanned for viruses before despatch. > There are no attachments to this message > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hello All, This may explain some of the strange emails you are getting. The new Bugbear virus works in a similar way to Badtrans but is more devious in the way it propagates itself. It selects two email addresses in the infected computer from either the address book or from old emails stored in the computer. It forges the sender's address using one of these addresses and sends itself to the other. It uses the Blind Copy field instead of using the To address so it is not always obvious that it has been sent to you. When you receive a copy of the virus it has NOT been sent to you by the person it claims to be from. There is no point in accusing them, the infected computer is elsewhere. Listowners cannot discover which computers are infected so each individual must take their own precautions. Unsubscribing from mailing lists will not protect you, if your email address or a message sent by you is stored in any other computer then you are at risk. For more information see your Anti-Virus provider's website. If you don't have an AV program then you should not be using email. Here are the addresses of some websites with information: http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/w32.bugbear@mm.html http://www.sophos.com/virusinfo/analyses/w32bugbeara.html http://www3.ca.com/virusinfo/Virus.asp?ID=13233 http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,3959,562163,00.asp New variants of new viruses are often discovered as infections become more widespread. Updates to AV definitions will gradually be added and you should download the latest definitions every time you go on-line. If your computer is already infected you may not be able to access these websites as one of the effects of the virus is to block access to them. If this is the case get expert advice and do not use email again until your computer is guaranteed clean. As you could be the first victim of any new variant you should also take every other precaution you can. Bugbear has a worm element which can be executed just by viewing the infected email in the preview pane. Microsoft issued patches to prevent this years ago but many people have not installed them. As Bugbear exploits loopholes in Microsoft systems you must make sure that you have the latest updates installed which protect against such viruses starting up without you having opened the attachment. See: http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/ The current Bugbear attachments are about 70K in size. In Outlook Express you can add the Size field to the View which shows you details about your messages. The same should be true for other email programs. The most common subject lines for messages infected with the Bugbear virus are those that appear to be replies to mailing list messages but this is not exclusively so. Bugbear is usually taking a subject line from an email in the infected computer and supposedly replying to that but it also has a stock of ready-made subject lines which it might use. It only appears that it is mostly answering RootsWeb list messages because that is what most of us mainly have in our computers. It remains the case than you CANNOT receive a virus from a RootsWeb mailing list. RootsWeb do not allow attachments or HTML and there is a size limit for messages which is below the size of harmful viruses.These three factors all prevent viruses from getting through RootsWeb mailing lists, the same cannot be guaranteed for all mailing lists hosted by other organisations. To delete these Attachments and unwanted emails, just press the CAP LOCK key and the DELETE key at the same time, by deleting Virus attachments and unwanted messages this way, it deletes them from the computer system, where they are harmless. Regards Barbara Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk Listowner Remember, NEVER open attachments unless you know EXACTLY what they contain. Regards Barbara Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk Listowner ==== SUSSEX-PLUS Mailing List ==== The SUSSEX-PLUS mailing list covers the counties of Sussex, Kent, Surrey, Hampshire

Hello All Just had a web site sparshot.org.uk send me an email subject THE POT which had an attachment with a virus. I dont know what virus as Norton deleted it. Keep alert, Regards Peter Goff Kingsclere, Hampshire, UK www.kingsclere.org.uk All outgoing e-mails are scanned for viruses before despatch. There are no attachments to this message

Hello All, Roger my spouse has just had a Virus attachment sent to him. The subject line made it look as if the attachment was sent from a rootsweb mailing list to his INBOX, this was a fake. Rootsweb DO NOT send attachments, and cannot send them. Please do not get caught by opening these attachments. Virus sender will use every trick that they can to get you to open these attachments. If you do open an attachment, the Virus will go through your address book and then send the Virus on to all of the people listed in your address book, even to your own family. The Virus will also wipe out all of your files, this is why I ask you to do a BACKUP of your computer files at least once a week. To delete an attachment from you computer press down Caps lock and delete. Regards Barbara Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk Listowner

Hello All, A new virus has appeared today. It appears to be spreading quickly so I am posting this warning. The virus is W32/Bugbear-A Preliminary description at: http://www.sophos.com/virusinfo/analyses/w32bugbeara.html and other vendor sites It was identified today, so you will need to have the *very latest* virus identities/library from your anti-virus software vendor. The infected messages look very genuine. PLEASE DO NOT OPEN ANY ATTACHMENTS, unless the sender has asked you first if they may send the attachment to you, even if they are a relation, they may have the Virus, you are in their address book. PLEASE DO NOT SEND ANY ATTACHMENTS, unless the person to whom it is are going says it is OK to send it. Make sure that you have Anti-Virus software, if you have not got Anti-Virus protection, there is a free programme available until you get a proper Anti-Virus system installed, try www.grisoft.com . Most important, please do a weekly BACKUP this could save your family tree and other files. Take care of your computer, it does a good job for you. Kind regards Barbara Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk Listowner .

Hello All, On the 12th October the Kingsclere rootsweb mailing list will be 1 year old. I am arranging an Anniversary Lunch at the Crown Inn, Kingsclere on Sunday the 6th October, we meet at 12.30pm for 1.00pm lunch. Most of us researching in Kingsclere are distantly related in some way or another, this is a good way that all of us can get to-gether and meet each other. I have already booked for John Lewis and spouse and for myself and spouse and others, if you would like to join us for lunch on the 6th please email me, we will be pleased to see you. Best wishes Barbara Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk Listowner

Alls Well That Ends Well!! Have found the answer to my problem with the On Line Census. Berkshire is BERKS Hampshire is HANTS Oxfordshire is OXON These were the Counties I was interested in. Denis

Hello All, Baptism Elizabeth daughter of Joseph and Jenny BUTLER 30 September 1781 Baptism Priscilla daughter of Thomas and Elizabeth BRIDGMAN Burial Hannah MAPLEBACK 6 February 1780 " Mary HARMSWORTH 12 October 1780 Burial Margaret WATTS widow 2 March 1781 Burial Mary wife of William COOPER 14 May 1782 Burial Ann MILES 12 June 1783 Burial |Eleanor wife of Joseph BUTLER 17 July 1783 Burial Joseph BUTLER Workhouse 19 January 1785 Note. There were a lot of Burials around 1780/1781 where the people had died of Smallpox. I have just counted 53 people one after another that were listed as dying of Smallpox. In 1776 a Dr. Jenner who discovered the vaccine for Smallpox, was vaccinating people against smallpox in other towns and villages. Marriage Thomas THATCHER and Ann PAICE 1 August 1782 " Edward HARMSWORTH and Elizabeth SMITH 17 September 1782 " William COOPER and Mary KEEP 27 October 1783 Banns " Charles PAGE and Ann SEYMOUR 13 November 1783 Banns " Charles WATTS and Ann BAMPTON 19 May 1785 Licence There are so many names that we have on the Kingsclere list, that are in the Basingstoke Bishops Transcript Baptisms, Marriages and Burials Volume 3 Please give me a week to recover from my holiday etc., then if anyone wants a look-up I will do it for you. Regards Barbara Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk

Hi Martyn, I have found the following taken from the Bishops Transcripts for Basingstoke Volume3. Burial of Harriet daughter of William and Harriet LEWINGTON infant on 12 September 1812 Regards Barbara Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martyn Lewington" <martynl@btinternet.com> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2002 7:25 AM Subject: {not a subscriber} Lewington family > Hi > > I am researching my family tree and have found that the Lewington family > has a strong history from the Hampshire area. > > I was given this email address by someone I contacted via the internet > and am contacting you to ascertain whether you can be of assistance to > furthering my research. > > Regards > > > Martyn Lewington >

Hello All, Baptism Elizabeth daughter of Joseph and Jenny BUTLER 30 September 1781 Baptism Priscilla daughter of Thomas and Elizabeth BRIDGMAN Burial Hannah MAPLEBACK 6 February 1780 " Mary HARMSWORTH 12 October 1780 Burial Margaret WATTS widow 2 March 1781 Burial Mary wife of William COOPER 14 May 1782 Burial Ann MILES 12 June 1783 Burial |Eleanor wife of Joseph BUTLER 17 July 1783 Burial Joseph BUTLER Workhouse 19 January 1785 Note. There were a lot of Burials around 1780/1781 where the people had died of Smallpox. I have just counted 53 people one after another that were listed as dying of Smallpox. In 1776 a Dr. Jenner who discovered the vaccine for Smallpox, was vaccinating people against smallpox in other towns and villages. Marriage Thomas THATCHER and Ann PAICE 1 August 1782 " Edward HARMSWORTH and Elizabeth SMITH 17 September 1782 " William COOPER and Mary KEEP 27 October 1783 Banns " Charles PAGE and Ann SEYMOUR 13 November 1783 Banns " Charles WATTS and Ann BAMPTON 19 May 1785 Licence There are so many names that we have on the Kingsclere list, that are in the Basingstoke Bishops Transcript Baptisms, Marriages and Burials 1780-1792 Please give me a week to recover from my holiday etc., then if anyone wants a look-up I will do it for you. Regards Barbara Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk

Can anyone help me with a couple of Burials please. William EDWARDS died 6 October 1900 at Poor Cottages, Wolverton aged 83 years - his wife Joanna is on the 1901 Census living in Wolverton aged 83 years. I am just guessing that perhaps Joanna did not live many more years. Is there someone out there who could supply me with the Burial dates of William and Joanna presumably at Wolverton. I am hoping on my next visit to the F.H.C., London to now look at the Death Indexes for Joanna. I have looked at Kingsclere Registers under Burials and neither William or Joanna are there. By the way - am I doing something wrong with the 1901 Census On Line Test but have others found that BERKSHIRE has not been put on the Test Site. My ancestors moved from Hampshire into Berkshire but they are not on the Hampshire Lists. My cousin in Australia is supplying me with some of the families found using Excel but of course there are no references.

Hello list, A big thankyou to John for the information that he has sent me and another to Carol for her offer of help. I have another question. Does anyone know what the Tabernacle was c1914, it may have been in Kingsclere or just down the road at Wolverton ? It may have been a sort of workhouse or mission, but that is just a guess. Thanks again, Ian Researching: DURHAM Kempsford Glos. 1800-1900 TRINDER Kempsford Glos. 1800-1900 HOCKLEY Kingsclere Hants pre 1915 PROUT Kingsclere Hants pre 1915 GFHS: 5339

On Thu, 19 Sep 2002 14:14:00 +0100 Barbara Mallyon wrote: > Hello Rita, > From: "Rita Ford" <Rita.Ford5@btopenworld.com> > that my grandmother, Mary Ann Hiscock was born in Kingsclere > and christened on 24 Aug 1860. I think she married Samuel > Charles Griffiths in 1880 in Kingston. Her father was Daniel > Hiscock and mother, Sarah (nee Martin), who were married on 26 I don't have any of these names in my database so cannot be of immediate help. It is worth bearing in mind that as well as the two spellings you list, in Kingsclere at least the names Hiscock, Hitchcock and Hedgecock are interchangeable at times. --- John Lewis <jayellatntlworlddotcom> from Bournemouth, Dorset, UK. using Debian GNU/Linux and Geneweb genealogy software Main Family Names in HAM are: Kingsclere: BUTLER, COOPER, FISHER, FOSTER, GIRDLER, HAWKINS, SMITH Hazeley Heath: BARKER, CHANDLER, LEWINGTON, NEVILL(E) Main Family Names in GLA are: GRIFFITH, HOPKINS, JENKINS, LEWIS. MORGAN, PHILLIPS and CMN: HOPKINS, DAVIES

Hello Rita, First welcome to the list and second, there are two Hiscock's in the 1851 census, none of your names though! HO 107/1684 Benjamin 77 001 245 (001 means born in Kingsclere) Hannah 79 001 245 (245 is a family grouping) Do you have the 1891 census details, I will send them if you like. regards, Carol ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Mallyon" <BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 2:14 PM Subject: Kingsclere families > Hello Rita, > > Welcome to the Kingsclere rootsweb, happy hunting in Kingsclere. > > This message has been passed on from Rita, please put all replies onto the list > for all to read. > > Regards > > Barbara Mallyon > Basingstoke, Hants, UK > BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk > Listowner > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rita Ford" <Rita.Ford5@btopenworld.com> > To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-L-request@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 6:12 PM > Subject: subscribe > > > > May I join the mailing list of Kingsclere families ? I have recently learned > that my grandmother, Mary Ann Hiscock was born in Kingsclere and christened on > 24 Aug 1860. I think she married Samuel Charles Griffiths in 1880 in Kingston. > Her father was Daniel Hiscock and mother, Sarah (nee Martin), who were married > on 26 dec 1858. Daniel Hiscocks(Hiscox) was christened 22 Feb 1835 in All > Cannings, Wilts..The Hiscock family lived in The Dell, Kingsclere. Daniel was a > sawyer. In 1881 census the children were Louisa, Jane e, Rosa, Ada, Ernest W, > Hubert, Caroline A, Nora E and an infant 2 days old, a granddaughter. > > Any further information would be greatly appreciated. > > Rita Ford > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Hello Rita, Welcome to the Kingsclere rootsweb, happy hunting in Kingsclere. This message has been passed on from Rita, please put all replies onto the list for all to read. Regards Barbara Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk Listowner ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rita Ford" <Rita.Ford5@btopenworld.com> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-L-request@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 6:12 PM Subject: subscribe > May I join the mailing list of Kingsclere families ? I have recently learned that my grandmother, Mary Ann Hiscock was born in Kingsclere and christened on 24 Aug 1860. I think she married Samuel Charles Griffiths in 1880 in Kingston. Her father was Daniel Hiscock and mother, Sarah (nee Martin), who were married on 26 dec 1858. Daniel Hiscocks(Hiscox) was christened 22 Feb 1835 in All Cannings, Wilts..The Hiscock family lived in The Dell, Kingsclere. Daniel was a sawyer. In 1881 census the children were Louisa, Jane e, Rosa, Ada, Ernest W, Hubert, Caroline A, Nora E and an infant 2 days old, a granddaughter. > Any further information would be greatly appreciated. > Rita Ford >

Hi Ian, I have 1851 census and Bishop's Transcripts for Kingsclere, if you tell me some names and dates, I'll try to help. Regards, Carol ----- Original Message ----- From: <IanGDurham@aol.com> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 8:23 PM Subject: HOCKLEY - PROUT > Hello list, > > I am new to this list so I'd better start by stating my interests. > > They are HOCKLEY & PROUT up to 1915. > > I have been in touch with Steve Prout and as soon as his pc is back in order > he will help me with the PROUT side . > > I would be very interested to hear from anyone with HOCKLEY connections. > > Can anyone tell me of the resources available for Kingsclere & Kingsclere > Woodlands, books, fiche, cds etc and where I can buy them. > > I live in France so I can't pop down to the shops and have a look myself. > > Any help or advice will be gratefully received. > > Thanks in advance, Ian DURHAM > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hello list, I am new to this list so I'd better start by stating my interests. They are HOCKLEY & PROUT up to 1915. I have been in touch with Steve Prout and as soon as his pc is back in order he will help me with the PROUT side . I would be very interested to hear from anyone with HOCKLEY connections. Can anyone tell me of the resources available for Kingsclere & Kingsclere Woodlands, books, fiche, cds etc and where I can buy them. I live in France so I can't pop down to the shops and have a look myself. Any help or advice will be gratefully received. Thanks in advance, Ian DURHAM