Hi John, That formatted perfectly, plenty to get our teeth into, thank you very much. It is so bewildering to be on this list, everybody is searching the same families! I don't suppose anybody knows anything about any OLIVER's do they? I have :- Elisabeth Herbert Oliver AKA: Betty Born: 1778 - Church Oakley Christened: 1778 - Preston Candover Died: 1852 Buried: 10 Nov 1852 - Hannington Churchyard She married Joseph BAGGS in Church Oakley on 9th Feb 1807. I would be pleased if someone came up with an answer for me! Regards, Carol

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On Sun, 13 Oct 2002 08:57:51 +0100 Barbara Mallyon wrote: > Hello Carol and All, > > I am interested in the TAYLOR family. > > James TAYLOR died 25 July 1810 Kingsclere and Sarah ?? > > Daughter Sarah TAYLOR baptised 1769 Kingsclere married John > HOLLY born 15 May 1757 Wilton by Salisbury, Wiltshire. Marriage > date 12 October 1791 Kingsclere How about: Descendants of James Taylor To the grandchildren. James Taylor. Married on 16 October 1762, St. Mary, Kingsclere, to Sarah May, with James, born about August 1763, Kingsclere, baptized on 7 August 1763, St. Mary, Kingsclere, died before 1773, Kingsclere. William, born about October 1764, Kingsclere, baptized on 26 October 1764, St. Mary, Kingsclere. Elizabeth, born about November 1766, Kingsclere, baptized on 21 November 1766, St. Mary, Kingslcere. Married on 26 November 1798, St. Mary, Kingsclere, to John Aldridge, Labourer, with Maria, born about April 1799, Kingsclere, baptized on 14 April 1799, St. Mary, Kingsclere. William, born about March 1801, Kingsclere, baptized on 20 March 1801, St. Mary, Kingsclere. Married on 5 October 1825, Kingsclere, to Elizabeth Dance, born about September 1801, Kingsclere, baptized on 27 September 1801, St. Mary, Kingsclere, died about 1841 (age at death: possibly 40 years old). Married on 9 November 1842, St. Mary, Kingsclere, to Leah Vince. James, born about November 1802, Kingsclere, baptized on 21 November 1802, St. Mary, Kingsclere. Rebecca, born about January 1805, Kingsclere, baptized on 27 January 1805, St. Mary, Kingsclere. Sarah, born about November 1806, Kingsclere, baptized on 23 November 1806, St. Mary, Kingsclere. Married on 29 October 1829, St. Mary, Kingsclere, to Henry Hunt, born about February 1806, Kingsclere, baptized on 23 February 1806, St. Mary, Kingsclere. Hannah, born about December 1810, Kingsclere, baptized on 30 December 1810, St. Mary, Kingsclere. Thomas, born about July 1813, Farmer Foster's Lower Farm, baptized on 25 July 1813, St. Mary, Kingsclere. Henry, born about August 1815, Woodlands, baptized on 20 August 1815, St. Mary, Kingsclere. Married on 14 May 1836, St. Mary, Kingsclere, to Mary Ann Girdler, born about 1814, Common, Kingsclere, baptized on 28 August 1814, Kingsclere. Richard, born about November 1817, Woodlands, baptized on 16 November 1817, Kingsclere. Sarah, born about April 1769, Kingsclere, baptized on 29 April 1769, St. Mary, Kingsclere, died on 19 October 1820, Kingsclere, buried on 22 October 1820, St. Mary, Kingsclere (age at death: possibly 51 years old). Married on 12 October 1791, St. Mary, Kingsclere, to John Holley, born on 15 May 1757, Wilton by Salisbury, baptized on 7 February 1762, Wilton, died on 7 January 1842, Kingsclere (age at death: 84 years old), with John, born about August 1792, Kingsclere, baptized on 5 August 1792, St. Mary, Kingsclere, died about November 1798, Kingsclere, buried on 23 November 1798, St. Mary, Kingsclere (age at death: possibly 6 years old). Elizabeth, born about April 1794, Coldridges, baptized on 26 April 1794, St. Mary, Kingsclere, died on 28 January 1855, Kingsclere, buried on 1 February 1855, St. Mary, Kingsclere (age at death: possibly 60 years old). Married on 13 April 1817, St. Mary, Kingsclere, to Robert Miles, born about August 1786, Sidmonton, baptized on 25 August 1786, St. Mary, Sidmonton, died on 4 April 1861, Union Workhouse, Kingsclere, buried on 8 April 1861, St. Mary, Kingsclere (age at death: possibly 74 years old), Ag. Lab.. William, born about December 1796, Kingsclere, baptized on 12 December 1796, St. Mary, Kingsclere. Married on 17 October 1816, St. Mary, Kingsclere, to Mary Hayward, born in 1798, Shaw, Berks, died before 1881, Swan Street, Kingsclere. Thomas, born about April 1799, Kingsclere, baptized on 14 April 1799, St. Mary, Kingsclere. Mary, born about July 1771, Kingsclere, baptized on 27 July 1771, St. Mary, Kingsclere. James, born about July 1773, Kingsclere Town, baptized on 11 July 1773, St. Mary, kingsclere. Hannah, born about October 1775, baptized on 7 October 1775, St. Mary, Kingsclere. Married on 2 November 1795, St. Mary, Kingsclere, to John Rabbits, born about 1775, with Rebecca, born about June 1796, baptized on 5 July 1796, St. Mary, Kingsclere. George, born in November 1818, Kingsclere Common, baptized on 20 December 1818, St. Mary, Kingsclere. Henry, born on 5 October 1819, Plaistow Green, baptized on 5 November 1819, St. Mary, Kingsclere. Fanny, born on 17 September 1820, nr. Old Farm, baptized on 1 October 1820, St. Mary, Kingsclere. James, born about April 1823, Kingsclere Common, baptized on 13 April 1823, St. Mary, Kingsclere. Jane, born about November 1778, baptized on 28 November 1778, St. Mary, Kingsclere. Don't know how well this will format, if it proves to be un-readable I'll have to send you an html file but cannot do that to the list. --- John Lewis <jayellatntlworlddotcom> from Bournemouth, Dorset, UK. using Debian GNU/Linux and GeneWeb genealogy software Main Family Names in HAM are: Kingsclere: BUTLER, COOPER, FISHER, FOSTER, GIRDLER, HAWKINS, SMITH Hazeley Heath: BARKER, CHANDLER, LEWINGTON, NEVILL(E) Main Family Names in GLA are: GRIFFITH, HOPKINS, JENKINS, LEWIS. MORGAN, PHILLIPS and CMN: HOPKINS, DAVIES

Hi Carol & everyone else, I am collecting TWITCHIN/TWITCHENs and have a few in Kingsclere in the first half of the 19th century. They seem to have moved on to Whitchurch after that. They also married a Mary BAGGS & someWEBBs, if my information is correct. If anyone would like more information - or can give me any! - please do get in touch. Suzy ----- Original Message ----- From: "carol dolton" <caroldolton@madasafish.com> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2002 9:38 AM Subject: Roll Call > Hi Barbara, Geoff and John, > Here are my list of surnames only in Kingsclere. > Baggs, > ... > Twitchin, > ... > Webb, > This is a full list, not just the main surnames, it includes all the extra's who I haven't quite got around to researching yet. > If anybody has a connection to a name they would like to find out about, please contact me and I will give them what I have on that particular person. > Regards, > Carol Dolton

Hello all The following is a list of families to whom my GURDLER family are linked by one or more marriages in the general area of Kingsclere. Aldridge Anken Archer Barnes Bradley Bridgeman Butler Coe Coventry Foster Hazell Hedges Hiscock Hunt Jewell Lawrence Long Mariner Owen Rabbits Scutter Simpson Smith Willmott Wooff Wythe There are other local families that link in as well but these are not as straight forward as the ones I have listed, just ask John Lewis how complicated some of the relationships can become :-) Regards Colin Harris P.S. If anyone has connections to GARY's in Mapledurwell I'd be interested to hear.

Hello Carol and All, I am interested in the TAYLOR family. James TAYLOR died 25 July 1810 Kingsclere and Sarah ?? Daughter Sarah TAYLOR baptised 1769 Kingsclere married John HOLLY born 15 May 1757 Wilton by Salisbury, Wiltshire. Marriage date 12 October 1791 Kingsclere I anyone has one has more information please let me know. Regards Barbara Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "carol dolton" <caroldolton@madasafish.com> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2002 12:21 AM Subject: Taylor > Hi Eric, > My TAYLOR is Charles who married Harriet MILES in Kingsclere > 5 Nov 1859. > She is the daughter of William MILES and Elizabeth WOODHOUSE. > That is all I know about Charles, I will have a look and see where he comes > from and get back to you. > I see there is a Charles TAYLOR aged 12 out to work on the 1851 index, > I will need to know the details, before I can work out who his parents are > etc. > Will get back to you, unless you know who he is? > regards, > Carol > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Eric Gibson" <e.gibson@btinternet.com> > To: "carol dolton" <caroldolton@madasafish.com> > Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2002 10:33 AM > Subject: Re: Roll Call > > > > Carol > > I have an Elizabeth Taylor Married to John Aldridge 26.11.1798 at > Kingsclere > > and then continuing to the present day. > > > > Can you help > > > > Eric Gibson > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "carol dolton" <caroldolton@madasafish.com> > > To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2002 9:38 AM > > Subject: Roll Call > > > > > > > Hi Barbara, Geoff and John, > > > Here are my list of surnames only in Kingsclere. > > > Baggs, > > > Booker, > > > Boughton, > > > Bridgman, > > > Bulpit, > > > Butler, > > > Cooper, > > > Cummins, > > > Dicker, > > > Gore, > > > Hillier, > > > Lancaster, > > > Long, > > > Maskell, > > > Miles, > > > Milsom, > > > New, > > > Orchard, > > > Palmer, > > > Shearman, > > > Smallbones, > > > Soper, > > > Spicer, > > > Stevens, > > > Taylor, > > > Tigwell, > > > Twitchin, > > > Warwick, > > > Watts, > > > Webb, > > > Woodhouse, > > > Wythe. > > > This is a full list, not just the main surnames, it includes all the > > extra's who I haven't quite got around to researching yet. > > > If anybody has a connection to a name they would like to find out about, > > please contact me and I will give them what I have on that particular > > person. > > > Regards, > > > Carol Dolton > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > > go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hi Eric, My TAYLOR is Charles who married Harriet MILES in Kingsclere 5 Nov 1859. She is the daughter of William MILES and Elizabeth WOODHOUSE. That is all I know about Charles, I will have a look and see where he comes from and get back to you. I see there is a Charles TAYLOR aged 12 out to work on the 1851 index, I will need to know the details, before I can work out who his parents are etc. Will get back to you, unless you know who he is? regards, Carol ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric Gibson" <e.gibson@btinternet.com> To: "carol dolton" <caroldolton@madasafish.com> Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2002 10:33 AM Subject: Re: Roll Call > Carol > I have an Elizabeth Taylor Married to John Aldridge 26.11.1798 at Kingsclere > and then continuing to the present day. > > Can you help > > Eric Gibson > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "carol dolton" <caroldolton@madasafish.com> > To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2002 9:38 AM > Subject: Roll Call > > > > Hi Barbara, Geoff and John, > > Here are my list of surnames only in Kingsclere. > > Baggs, > > Booker, > > Boughton, > > Bridgman, > > Bulpit, > > Butler, > > Cooper, > > Cummins, > > Dicker, > > Gore, > > Hillier, > > Lancaster, > > Long, > > Maskell, > > Miles, > > Milsom, > > New, > > Orchard, > > Palmer, > > Shearman, > > Smallbones, > > Soper, > > Spicer, > > Stevens, > > Taylor, > > Tigwell, > > Twitchin, > > Warwick, > > Watts, > > Webb, > > Woodhouse, > > Wythe. > > This is a full list, not just the main surnames, it includes all the > extra's who I haven't quite got around to researching yet. > > If anybody has a connection to a name they would like to find out about, > please contact me and I will give them what I have on that particular > person. > > Regards, > > Carol Dolton > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > >

Hi Charles et al. I have here below all the details of Henry SOPER born about 1789 Hannington. He married into the BAGGS, Hannington side of my husbands family. It would be great to go back that far if there is any connection! Plus if you want BAGGS, they go back to c1520's, courtesy of Ken Smallbone, BAGGS of Hannington researcher. Regards, Carol Family Group Sheet Husband: Henry Soper Born: Abt 1789 - Hannington, Hants. Died: After 1851 Married: 30 May 1814 Place: Kingsclere, Hants. Wife: Charlotte Baggs Born: 1790 Christened: 16 May 1790 - Hannington, Hants. Died: After 1851 Father: William Baggs-[758] (Abt 1754-1825) Mother: Children 1 F Fanny Soper Christened: 17 Dec 1815 - Hannington, Hants. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- 2 M William Soper Christened: 4 May 1817 - Hannington, Hants. Died: After 1851 Spouse: Louisa Baggs (1829- )Marr. Date: <1845> Hannington, Hants. Had children - James 1846, Charles 1848, Ann 1851 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- 3 F Hannah Soper Christened: 27 Dec 1818 - Hannington, Hants. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- 4 F Diana Soper Christened: 23 Jul 1821 - Hannington, Hants. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- 5 M Henry Soper Christened: 3 Jul 1825 - Hannington, Hants. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- 6 F Martha Soper Born: Abt 1826 - Hannington, Hants. Died: After 1841 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- 7 M Charles Soper Born: - Hannington, Hants.Christened: 7 Jan 1827 Died: After 1851 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- 8 F Sarah Soper Christened: 1 Nov 1829 - Hannington, Hants. Died: 2 Dec 1906 - Ashmansworth ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- 9 M Robert Soper Born: - Hannington, Hants. Christened: 26 Feb 1832 Died: After 1851 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- 10 F Lucy Soper Born: - Hannington, Hants. Christened: 24 May 1835 Died: After 1851 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles.Russell" <charles.russell@ntlworld.com> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2002 10:58 AM Subject: RE: Roll Call > Carol ( and anyone else with a similar interest). I have lots of SOPERs from > my wife, Claire Soper, back to William Soper in 1558, perhaps you could let > me know which Sopers you have. > > Regards > > Charles in Cambridge > > -----Original Message----- > From: carol dolton [mailto:caroldolton@madasafish.com] > Sent: 12 October 2002 09:38 > To: ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Roll Call > > > Hi Barbara, Geoff and John, > Here are my list of surnames only in Kingsclere. > Baggs, > Booker, > Boughton, > Bridgman, > Bulpit, > Butler, > Cooper, > Cummins, > Dicker, > Gore, > Hillier, > Lancaster, > Long, > Maskell, > Miles, > Milsom, > New, > Orchard, > Palmer, > Shearman, > Smallbones, > Soper, > Spicer, > Stevens, > Taylor, > Tigwell, > Twitchin, > Warwick, > Watts, > Webb, > Woodhouse, > Wythe. > This is a full list, not just the main surnames, it includes all the extra's > who I haven't quite got around to researching yet. > If anybody has a connection to a name they would like to find out about, > please contact me and I will give them what I have on that particular > person. > Regards, > Carol Dolton > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > --- > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.401 / Virus Database: 226 - Release Date: 09/10/2002 > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.401 / Virus Database: 226 - Release Date: 09/10/2002 > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Hello everybody, Firstly congratulations to Barbara and everyone who has made this list so successful. Secondly, here is my list of people who I seek in Kingsclere area. There was a marriage at East Woodhay in 1762 between Charles Stocker and Anne Tyrell. Ann was a widow having been previously married to John Tyrrell in 1757 (Yes there are two spellings of the surname) Ann/Anne had the surname Bridgeman at her first marriage, a name very common in the area. Nevertheless she is still eluding me. At marriage Charles was " of Mortimer, Berks." I still seek the baptism of both persons. Their son Charles Stocker married twice both times at Thatcham. The first wife was Hannah Pocock and the second Hannah Clargo, the marriages being in 1790 and 1800 respectively. I think I have the details of most Clargo families, they were mainly in west Berkshire and East Wiltshire. However, I still seek the origin of Hannah who most ungraciously died a few weeks before the 1851 census. She is not the one from Bucklebury. Any suggestions will be appreciated. Rod Whale, Andover.

Hello All Thanks to Barbara, David Herring and Carol Dolton I have added some more names to the Surnames Listing on Kingsclere web pages. Please check to see who you are related to. Regards Peter Goff Kingsclere, Hampshire, UK www.langdon-goff.org.uk All outgoing e-mails are scanned for viruses There are no attachments to this message

Carol ( and anyone else with a similar interest). I have lots of SOPERs from my wife, Claire Soper, back to William Soper in 1558, perhaps you could let me know which Sopers you have. Regards Charles in Cambridge -----Original Message----- From: carol dolton [mailto:caroldolton@madasafish.com] Sent: 12 October 2002 09:38 To: ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Roll Call Hi Barbara, Geoff and John, Here are my list of surnames only in Kingsclere. Baggs, Booker, Boughton, Bridgman, Bulpit, Butler, Cooper, Cummins, Dicker, Gore, Hillier, Lancaster, Long, Maskell, Miles, Milsom, New, Orchard, Palmer, Shearman, Smallbones, Soper, Spicer, Stevens, Taylor, Tigwell, Twitchin, Warwick, Watts, Webb, Woodhouse, Wythe. This is a full list, not just the main surnames, it includes all the extra's who I haven't quite got around to researching yet. If anybody has a connection to a name they would like to find out about, please contact me and I will give them what I have on that particular person. Regards, Carol Dolton ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.401 / Virus Database: 226 - Release Date: 09/10/2002 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.401 / Virus Database: 226 - Release Date: 09/10/2002

To Barbara, Peter and John I include my research list. Eric ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric Gibson" <e.gibson@btinternet.com> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 11:07 AM Subject: Fw: Surnames > > > > Dear All, > I am researching the following names can anybody help? > ALDRIDGE - Kingsclere 1780-1860 > BOSHER - married in Kingsclere 1780- 1860 > DANCE - Kingsclere 1824 > TAYLOR - Kingsclere 1800-1860 > > I would be very willing to swap information. ( not IGI ) > > Eric From Rotherfield in Sussex > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hi Barbara, Geoff and John, Here are my list of surnames only in Kingsclere. Baggs, Booker, Boughton, Bridgman, Bulpit, Butler, Cooper, Cummins, Dicker, Gore, Hillier, Lancaster, Long, Maskell, Miles, Milsom, New, Orchard, Palmer, Shearman, Smallbones, Soper, Spicer, Stevens, Taylor, Tigwell, Twitchin, Warwick, Watts, Webb, Woodhouse, Wythe. This is a full list, not just the main surnames, it includes all the extra's who I haven't quite got around to researching yet. If anybody has a connection to a name they would like to find out about, please contact me and I will give them what I have on that particular person. Regards, Carol Dolton

Hello All, To the new subscribers, Welcome to the Kingsclere and Villages rootsweb mailing list. Peter GOFF has a very good and informative website email:- www.kingsclere.org.uk Peter has a section where he has listed the names of ancestors being researched and the names and emails of the people that are researching them. To help Peter add more names to this list, please send the names of the ancestors that you are researching in Kingsclere and the villages, of Ashford Hill, Sydmonton, Ecchinswell, Baughurst, Hannington, Ewhurst, Wolverton, Hannington, Ewhurst, Highclere, Ashmansworth, Burghclere, Tadley, Woodcott and any of the other small village around Kingsclere to the List. The reason for the Anniversary Roll Call, was so that Peter and John LEWIS are able to pick up the names from your Roll Call, I was the only one to list the ancestors names that I am researching. How can you get help from the List if you do not tell us who and what you are researching. John LEWIS is piecing to-gether a giant family history puzzle of our ancestors and making a very good job of it. John would like you to send him your family tree, he may send you a lot of family tree information in return, email John on jayell@ntlworld.com Colin Harris one of our subscribers, has a website listing Kingsclere and Woodlands Burials, email :- http://www.colin.harris4.btinternet.co.uk/kingsclereburials.htm Regards Barbara Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk Listowner

Dear All Can any of you tell me anything about White Lane, Hannington Which I have just discovered is actually a few miles from Hannington the other side of North Oakley. I have found my 2 X great parents there is 1891 and 1901 they could have possibly been there in 1881 but the entry is just listed as cottage, Hannington. My 2x great grandfather William Spicer was a Wood dealer according to the 1901 census not suprising really with all the woods about. Sue Matthews

Hello from Australia. I am not sure if I am on the right list, but here goes. I have an uncle who was in the Australian Army in WW! and a naughty boy he was! After a few minor charges he finally struck a superior officer and was the subject of a Court Martial held at Perham Downs. He was awarded 25 years penal servitude, but apparenty mercy prevailed and it was reduced to 2 years. I am trying to find if there was an Army prison facility at Perham Downs in WW1. I know there was an Army establishment there and I have been told that there still is. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Cheers Bob Cunning, Melbourne in Spring.

Hello John and All, Thank you for all of those marriages, they have certainly kept me busy, I have all of those HOLLEY'S on my family tree, you have just linked me in with so many families in Kingsclere. If anyone has a HOLLEY marriage and wants to know more about the HOLLEY family, I would be please to send you details. Regards Barbara Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk

Patricia (Vince) said > I notice that you are researching two Smith families from > Kingsclere. I'm afraid I don't have much information on MY > Smith line, but there's always hope. Here's what I have: > Hannah Smith, born Kingsclere about 1774, married George Vince > at Kingsclere 31 October 1797. They had at least four > children: James 1805, John 1808, Charles 1810, Hannah 1812. > I am descended from John. > Does anything sound familiar? Hi I had a look among the many Hannah Smiths I have listed and found one born ca 1774. I have her as one of the children of Joseph Smith and Mary Taylor who married at St. Mary, Kingsclere on 1 Apr 1758. Their children are Hannah 1760, Ann 1763, Sarah 1766, Joseph 1767, Mary 1769, Hannah 1774, Martha 1777 and James ca 1779. I don't have any more detail at present on this family. Joseph was a son of John Smith and Mary Churchman who married at St. Mary on 19 Sep 1724 and had the following children:- Joanna ca 1725, Elizabeth ca 1727, Joseph 1730-1738, Mary 1734, Judith 1737-ca 1802 and Joseph ca 1740. It is quite possible that I may have assigned parents to children incorrectly as there is no way to determine this with certainty. With so many of the Smith families have same names and naming children the same all at the same time it is a bit of a nightmare trying to sort them out. However I am fairly sure of the John Smith/Mary Churchman having Judith as a daughter as they are my 6xgt-grandparents. Judith married Robert Buxey and their daughter Judith married Richard Cooper in 1786. I also have in my database: Abraham married at St. Mary 15 on Jul 1794 to Hannah Dore with James bapt. 13 Sep 1795 and Dinah married at St. Mary on 20 Aug 1789 to John Harmsworth with John bapt. ca 1800 who may be siblings of George Vince. --- John Lewis <jayellatntlworlddotcom> from Bournemouth, Dorset, UK. using Debian GNU/Linux and GeneWeb genealogy software Main Family Names in HAM are: Kingsclere: BUTLER, COOPER, FISHER, FOSTER, GIRDLER, HAWKINS, SMITH Hazeley Heath: BARKER, CHANDLER, LEWINGTON, NEVILL(E) Main Family Names in GLA are: GRIFFITH, HOPKINS, JENKINS, LEWIS. MORGAN, PHILLIPS and CMN: HOPKINS, DAVIES

extracted from Marriage Register for St. Mary Kingsclere 1878-1961 22 Mar 1958 entry 492 Albert Harry Holley 22 bach tractor driver, 60 Swan St, Edward Holley dec'd Cynthia Doris Rolfe 19 sp dairy worker, 5 North St, Charles Gordon Rolfe farm worker witnesses: H J Holly & C J Holly 31 Mar 1956 entry 478 Frank Ernest Wellman 28 bach tailor's cutter, 56 Swan St, James Wellman carpenter ret'd Violet Elsie Holley 35 sp, 60 Swan St, Edward Holley ag worker Witnesses: Matilda E Wellman & Mary J Holly 17 Mar 1951 entry 447 Ronald Charles Harmsworth 21 bach ag worker, 29 The Dell, George Francis Harmsworth builders lab Louisa Rose Holley 27 sp, 60 Swan St, Edward Holley ag worker witnesses: Edward Holly & Arthur Edward George Holley 3 Jun 1950 entry 440 Robin Edwin Valetine Prout 22 bach pay clerk, South View Headley, Thomas William Prout insurance agent Marjorie Miles 19 sp shop asst, Park House, Herbert Miles groom witnesses: Dennis Romaine Prout & Herbert Miles 26 Apr 1950 entry 439 Norman John Miles 19 bach driver (R.A.F.), 23 The Dell, Nelson Miles R.N. Alice Lilian Penlington 19 sp hair dresser, 32 West St, Newbury, Charles Penlington bus driver witnesses: Nelson Miles & Iris Patricia Penlington 3 Oct 1947 entry 433 Frank Miles 38 bach labourer, 23 The Dell, William Miles dec'd farm lab Alice Lambden 29 sp, 17 Skylings, Newbury, Albert Henry Lambden night watchman witnesses: Nelson Miles & Albert Henry Lambden 9 Feb 1942 entry 394 Alexander Walker 21 bach Pte. Black Watch, Swan St, William Brand Walker roadman Evelyn Joan Holley 21 sp, Swan St, Edward Holley roadman witnesses: Alex Black & Dorothy Birtwistle 15 Feb 1930 entry 337 Nelson Miles 23 bach motor driver, The Dell, William James Miles dec'd labourer Dorothy May Hill 19 sp, The Dell, William John Hill dec'd builder witnesses: Wallace Miles & Frederick Miles 11 Jan 1930 entry 336 Alfred Edmund Grist 27 bach groom, Burghclere, Albert Frederick French Grist lab Harriet Fanny Miles 25 sp, Tower Hill, James Sydney Herbert George Miles gardener witnesses: Eva Grist & James Thomas Miles 29 Sept 1923 entry 306 Frederick Flitter 24 bach Cowman, Ecchinswell, Henry Flitter dec'd carter Edith May Holley 23 sp, North St, George Holley dec'd carter witnesses: James Flitter & Ernest Holley 20 Aug 1921 entry 299 Albert William Arthur Prout 21 bach labr, North Wood, Thomas William Prout labr Carrie Miles 19 sp, The Dell, William James Miles labr witnesses: Flora Hazell & Harry Miles 5 Feb 1921 entry 294 Alfred Richard Hutchins 22 bach gamekeeper, Humber's Marsh K Woodlands, Alfred George Hutchins gamekeeper Annie Holley 22 sp North St, George Holley dec'd carter witnesses: Christopher Hutchins & William George Holley 24 April 1920 entry 289 Albert John Camber 28 bach coachman, Limpsfield Surrey, George Camber ex-postman Elizabeth Jane Holley 29 sp, North St, George Holley dec'd carter witnesses: William George Holley & Edward Holley 18 Oct 1819 entry 286 Edward Holley 27 bach carter, North St, George Holley dec'd carter Mary Jane Smith 24 sp, North St, Arthur smith working foreman witnesses: Arthur Smith & George Holley 11 Oct 1919 entry 285 Ernest Holley 22 bach labr, North St, George Holley dec'd carter Myrtle Digweed 20 sp, Swan St, James Digweed dec'd shepherd witnesses: Fred Digweed & Edward Holley 1 Jan 1916 entry 260 Alfred Evans 26 bach groom, Park House, George Evans caretaker Nellie Louisa Holley 28 sp, North St, George Holley dec'd carter witnesses: William Holley & Percy Barnard 8 Sep 1915 entry 255 Thomas Brown 31 bach Pte Durham Light Infantry, Farnborough, David Brown cowman Sarah Annie Miles 30 sp, Kites Hill, ------ witnesses: Christopher Robinson & Gladys Mary Jones 3 Aug 1914 entry 246 Albert Lidbury 27 bach mechanic, Lambeth Surrey, James Lidbury warehouseman Ellen Mabel Holley 28 sp, North St, Edward Holley brewer witnesses: Hannah Lidbury & Edward Holley 1 Mar 1913 entry 240 George Warren 26 bach chauffer, North St, James Warren knitter Alice Mildred Holley 24 sp, North Street, Edward Holley brewer witnesses: Ellen Mabel Holley & Walter Warren 8 Oct 1906 entry 207 John Edward Miles 26 bach gardener, Wimbledon Park, John Miles labr Annie Elizabeth King 29 sp, George St, William King annuitant witnesses: Albert Henry Duffin & Emma Jane Miles 17 Ovct 1903 entry 186 James Herbert Sidney George Miles 28 bach labr, Station Road, ------ Harriet Ann Hockley 30 sp, Kennington W, Thomas Hockley dec'd shepherd witnesses: Charlotte Barkwith & George Hockley 4 Jun 1901 entry 168 Clement Edward Sedgwick 21 bach butcher, Kingsclere, Benjamin Sedgwick farmer Florence Edith Myhill 27 sp, Kingsclere, Robert Ellis Myhill butcher witnesses: Robert Ellis Myhill & Mahala? Myhill 22 Jul 1894 entry 125 John Holley 26 bach labr, Kingsclere, John Holley labr Mary Hitchcock 21 sp servant, Kingsclere, Henry Hitchcock labr witnesses: Richard Bridgeman & Matilda Bridgeman 25 Oct 1891 entry 103 William Charles Bradley 18 bach labr, Kingsclere, George Bradley labr Louisa Ellen Miles 20 sp servant, Kingsclere, William Miles labr witnesses: William Stanley White & Florence Louisa Dry 1 Jun 1889 entry 79 William Joseph Cook Butler 25 bach groom, Kingsclere, Charles Butler labr Elizabeth Hewlett Miles 29 sp, Kingsclere, John Miles labr witnesses: Henry Thomas Savery (parish clerk) & Sarah Elizabeth ? 11 Oct 1887 entry 60 William White 24 bach labr, Kingsclere, George White gardener Rose Kate Miles 19 sp dom servt, Kingsclere, William Miles labr witnesses: William Miles & Emma North 10 Oct 1885 entry 48 Edward Holley 24 bach labr, Kingsclere, John Holley Mary Jane Lawrence 23 sp, Kingsclere, Daniel Lawrence basket maker witnesses: Daniel Lawrence & Isabella Lawrence 27 May 1882 entry 22 George Holley 27 bach carter, North St. Kingsclere, John Holley carter Sarah Louisa Rolfe 20 sp , North St. , ------ Witnesses: John Povey & Lucy Watts Povey --- John

Hello Patricia and Don, Welcome to the Kingsclere rootsweb mailing list. The William SMITH on my family tree is married to Leah BRIDGMAN baptised 8 November 1837 married 8 November 1856 Kingsclere. Leah is sister to Rosa Ann BRIDGMAN married John HOLLY. On my direct Line Harriet SMITH married William JEWELL their daughter Elizabeth JEWELL married George MILES on my direct line. I have not further information on either of the SMITH'S. Best wishes Barbara Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk Listowner ----- Original Message ----- From: Don and Patricia Earl To: BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 11:50 PM Subject: Smith Family of Kingsclere Hello Barbara! I notice that you are researching two Smith families from Kingsclere. I'm afraid I don't have much information on MY Smith line, but there's always hope. Here's what I have: Hannah Smith, born Kingsclere about 1774, married George Vince at Kingsclere 31 October 1797. They had at least four children: James 1805, John 1808, Charles 1810, Hannah 1812. I am descended from John. Does anything sound familiar? Thanks, and good luck to you! Patricia (Vince) Earl