Hi Steve I think Frobury Pit was where the material for road repairs was extracted. Will confirm at our next Heritage meeting on 14th Dec Peter Goff

Hi John and Steve Having done some searching around, I have found these which I'm going to add to my husband's family tree, hopefully if you print it out it will all make sense!! Regards, Carol -------------------------- BT's 11th Nov 1810 Anne baptised to Joseph and Elizabeth Bear. ---------------------------- IGI JOSEPH BEAR Marriages: Spouse: ELIZABETH FARMER Family Marriage: 11 OCT 1792 Kingsclere, Hampshire, England M014641 1780 - 1837 0973052 IT 1 Film 0883846 Film Hampshire (Southampton), England, British Isles Father: Joseph Bear, Mother: Elizabeth Exact Spelling: Off 1. MARY BEAR - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 01 NOV 1801 Kingsclere, Hampshire, England 2. ELIZABETH BARE - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 11 FEB 1798 Kingsclere, Hampshire, England 3. JOHN BEAR - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 15 JUL 1804 Kingsclere, Hampshire, England 4. SARAH BEER - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 12 JAN 1793 Kingsclere, Hampshire, England 5. ANNE BEAR - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 11 NOV 1810 Kingsclere, Hampshire, England ---------------------------------- Kingsclere 1851 Census Wythe All born Kingsclere. Richard 48 001 169 Ann 42 001 169 (BEAR) Whether these are their children or not, I don't suppose you have access to the full census? William 17 001 170 Mary Ann 11 001 170 Ellen 9 001 170 Charlotte 4 001 170 I can't understand why James is not there, away somewhere? James 75 001 255 (Married Mary Dormer) James 30 001 255 Sarah 29 001 255 (Sarah PROUT) James 7 001 255 *** I see there is a James here, but he WAS born to James and Sarah bpt 24 Mar 1844 Hannah 5 001 255 Charles 3 001 255 Eliza 1 001 255 ---------------------------- IGI Hampshire (Southampton), England, British Isles Father: James Wythe, Mother: Sarah Exact Spelling: Off 4. JAMES WYTHE - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 24 MAR 1844 Kingsclere, Hampshire, England 5. HANNAH WYTHE - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 16 NOV 1845 Kingsclere, Hampshire, England ----------------------------------- IGI You searched for: Hampshire (Southampton), England, British Isles Father: Richard Wythe, Mother: Ann Exact Spelling: Off 1. MARY ANN WYTHE - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Birth: 03 FEB 1839 2. MARY ANN WYTHE - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 10 MAR 1839 Kingsclere, Hampshire, England 3. EMMA WYTHE - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Birth: 03 MAY 1836 4. EMMA WYTHE - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 29 MAY 1836 Kingsclere, Hampshire, England 5. EMMA WYETH - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 18 OCT 1849 Kingsclere, Hampshire, England 6. JAMES WYTHE - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 30 JUN 1844 Kingsclere, Hampshire, England MARRIED LUCY WATTS 7. HELEN WYTHE - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 27 JUN 1841 Kingsclere, Hampshire, England ------------------------- IGI RICHARD WITHE Birth: Christening: 28 JUN 1807 Kingsclere, Hampshire, England Parents: Father: JAMES WITHE Family Mother: MARY P014641 1780 - 1837 0973052 IT 1 Film 0472340 ----------------------------- IGI JAMES WYTHE Marriages: Spouse: MARY DORMER Marriage: 24 JUN 1799 Kingsclere, Hampshire, England M014641 1780 - 1837 0973052 IT 1 Film 0883846 -------------------------- IGI Hampshire (Southampton), England, British Isles Father: James Wythe, Mother: Mary Exact Spelling: Off 4. HARRIET WYITH - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 07 SEP 1817 Kingsclere, Hampshire, England 5. ELIZABETH WITHE - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 01 FEB 1815 Kingsclere, Hampshire, England 6. JAMES WYTH - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 19 JUL 1820 Kingsclere, Hampshire, England 7. CHARLOTTE WYTHE - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 07 FEB 1810 Kingsclere, Hampshire, England 8. SARAH WYTHE - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 18 SEP 1812 Kingsclere, Hampshire, England 9. HANNA WITHE - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 04 OCT 1801 Kingsclere, Hampshire, England 10. ANN WYTHE - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 22 JUL 1804 Kingsclere, Hampshire, England 11. RICHARD WITHE - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 28 JUN 1807 Kingsclere, Hampshire, England

Hi List, Can anyone help with the following questions that have been bugging me for a while. 1. Where is the location of Frobury Pit in regard to Kingsclere. 2. Is Frobury Pit man made or natural. 3. What might one find at Frobury Pit early 1800`s and Now. Regards Steve Prout Researching PROUT/PROUTE/SPROUT Kingsclere and Villages

Hi Peter and All, All rootsweb mailing lists are protected from Attachments and Virus. It is up to everyone on the internet to protect their computer by having AntiVirus Protection and to keep these up to-date. New updates come out at least once a week, so please get into the habit of doing a weekly update and also a Backup of all of your files, these Backups then contain all of your hard work, so keep them somewhere safe. If your computer does break down or you delete something in error, you can reinstate your file/s from your Backup. I have been getting messages nearly every day to my Inbox, from my domain provider to say that their McAfee AntiVirus, has detected a message has been stopped due to having a Virus. Example A message which was sent to you was discarded by McAfee AntiVirus plugin running on CommuniGate Pro mail server <http://www.stalker.com/CommuniGatePro/> The details of what was detected and the original message header are below. For your protection, the original message has been destroyed. The sender has been notified. CARD.exe.exe is infected with W32/Bugbear@MM Viruses: 1 Trojans: 0 Jokes: 0 Tests: 0 It's good to know that I have this protection for my computer. Regards Barbara Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk rg----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Goff" <peter.goff@btinternet.com> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 9:48 AM Subject: Virus | Hello Listers | | I have over the last couple of days received several emails with attachments pruportedly from fellow listers. These emails have attachments which contain a virus, so beware. | | In every case Norton has picked them up and protected my system. | | It should be easy for you to recognise these infected emails as I believe that Kingsclere mailing list does not accept attachments. Perhaps Barbara can confirm this. | | Regards | | Peter Goff | Kingsclere, Hampshire, UK | www.kingsclere.org.uk | | All outgoing e-mails are scanned for viruses before despatch. | There are no attachments to this message | | | ============================== | To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: | http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 |

Hello Listers I have over the last couple of days received several emails with attachments pruportedly from fellow listers. These emails have attachments which contain a virus, so beware. In every case Norton has picked them up and protected my system. It should be easy for you to recognise these infected emails as I believe that Kingsclere mailing list does not accept attachments. Perhaps Barbara can confirm this. Regards Peter Goff Kingsclere, Hampshire, UK www.kingsclere.org.uk All outgoing e-mails are scanned for viruses before despatch. There are no attachments to this message

Hello All, Welcome to Kingsclere rootsweb. Please list the ancestors that you are researching, you will probably find that others on this List, will also be researching the same families. Have a look at Peter GOFF'S website very interesting, it will tell you who else is researching the surnames that you are researching. www.kingsclere.org.uk click on the persons name to find out their email address. By Colin HARRIS Kingsclere Burials http://www.colin.harris4.btinternet.co.uk/kingsclereburials.htm I will try to keep this up to date as and when you post new information Have you tried http://FreeBMD.RootsWeb.com Family Search the IGI has been updated http://familysearch.org select IGI Here is a site that might be useful, it has most of the IGI batch numbers Click on SEARCH, go to the bottom of the page Click on ENGLAND, this will give you A-Z this is to choose the name of the place you are researching, there you will see the batch numbers. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hughwallis/IGIBatchNumbers.htm#Pa ge To find details of all Record Offices in the UK, Record Office direct. The Genuki pages for England are at:- http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/ Regards Barbara Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk Listowner

Hello All, For LEWINGTON researchers:- Marriage taken place at Basingstoke William LEWINGTON and Harriot HANKIN 19 August 1799 Regards Barbara Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk

Steve As you have a UK email address, theses may help. The first is for Hampshire Library service (server is down at this moment). When the site is back online you'll be able to search to find out where a copy is held. Then you can order from your local library. Your might also be interested in the Copac site. http://libcat.hants.gov.uk/ http://www.copac.ac.uk/copac/wzgw Hope this helps Ann Sargeant, Basingstoke Researching BATCHELO(U)Rs Surrey, Middx,London,Kent,Berks,Hants ARUNDELL Hants,Berks,Surrey ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven Prout" <steven.prout@ntlworld.com> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 8:00 PM Subject: Hampshire Hauntings > Hi List, > Can SKS please advise where i might view a book entitled > Hampshire Hauntings and Hearsays by Patrica Ross > which was published around 1852. > > > Kindest Regards > > > Steve Prout > Researching PROUT/PROUTE/SPROUT > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.422 / Virus Database: 237 - Release Date: 20/11/02

Hello Mike, Welcome to Kingsclere. There is a large book 12" x 8 1/2" a History of Hampshire, it is being sold in Garden Centres at reduced prices. I have two books of this size for Guildford, Surrey, full of pictures.Has anyone got a copy of this book? Regards Barbara Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk Listowner ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Hutchins" <ma_hutchins@hotmail.com> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 5:31 PM Subject: Local books | Hello Kingsclere listers, | Christmas is coming so I'm looking for suggestions for my present list! I'm | particularly interested in details of books covering the local villages' | history. I already have a couple on Tadley and the Woodlands book. Does | anyone know title for books about Baughurst? I saw one in the library called | "Memories of.." (I think) but I especially like the type with lots of old | photos so is anything else available? | | Thanks to all. Cheers....Mike Hutchins | | Researching HUTCHINS, RABBITS, GODDON in North Hants/West Berks. | | | | | | | _________________________________________________________________ | Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* | http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail | | | ============================== | To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: | http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 |

Hi Steve, You could go into your local book shop to see if they could order it for you, they will soon tell you from their computer if it is still available. If they cannot get the book for you, I will get my spouse Roger to have a look at a second hand book shop, to see if they can get a copy for you. Regards Barbara Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven Prout" <steven.prout@ntlworld.com> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 8:00 PM Subject: Hampshire Hauntings | Hi List, | Can SKS please advise where i might view a book entitled | Hampshire Hauntings and Hearsays by Patrica Ross | which was published around 1852. | | | Kindest Regards | | | Steve Prout | Researching PROUT/PROUTE/SPROUT | | | ============================== | To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: | http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 |

Hi List, Can SKS please advise where i might view a book entitled Hampshire Hauntings and Hearsays by Patrica Ross which was published around 1852. Kindest Regards Steve Prout Researching PROUT/PROUTE/SPROUT

Hello Kingsclere listers, Christmas is coming so I'm looking for suggestions for my present list! I'm particularly interested in details of books covering the local villages' history. I already have a couple on Tadley and the Woodlands book. Does anyone know title for books about Baughurst? I saw one in the library called "Memories of.." (I think) but I especially like the type with lots of old photos so is anything else available? Thanks to all. Cheers....Mike Hutchins Researching HUTCHINS, RABBITS, GODDON in North Hants/West Berks. _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

Looking for the birth or baptism of Charles Franklin born Ecchinswell about 1804. Found on the 1881 Census in Inkpen, Berkshire, married 1826 in Kintbury, Berks. Any assistance very much appreciated. Audrey Taylor

I am researching the name NICKLESS on my maternal side in Hampshire.By 1839 I can prove ties to Kingsclere but before that I have no proof just assumptions.I had looked for a long time for one,George NICKLESS,but could not find him until after his marriage.To make a long story short,through a distant relative of my mother's I found out that until shortly after his marriage,which took place in Kingsclere,he was known as George TAYLOR.He was born illigitametly to Elizabeth NICKLESS and was given to the TAYLOR family to raise as they were distant relatives.This was in 1817. This relative of my mother's had the family tree back as far as 1671 and even as far back as that when the name was NICHOLSON not NICKLESS it still says (alias TAYLOR).It would appear the NICHOLSON gave was to NICHOLAS about 1740 and then became NICKLESS around 1780 but still retained the (alias TAYLOR) I can understand the George who was born in 1817 being given to another family to be raised and using their surname but why all the others as well?Were they all born this same way? By the way,George TAYLOR became George NICKLESS shortly after his marriage because his mother came forward and told him the truth of his parentage shortly before the 1841 census.Without this older relative's letters and family Bible I would have been looking forever.I'm not sure if that will help anyone with their TAYLOR research but if not it will certainly confuse them. Sally Sally ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca

On Mon, 25 Nov 2002 22:34:55 -0000 Barbara Mallyon wrote: > Has anyone got a baptism date for Sarah MAY and where she was Further to my previous email, I cannot see any other children of William & Sarah MAY being baptised in Kingsclere, so it is probably worth checking Wolverton records to see if any baptised there. William and Sarah Palmer married at St. Mary, Kingsclere on 15 Dec 1734. --- John Lewis <jayellatntlworlddotcom> from Bournemouth, Dorset, UK. using Debian GNU/Linux and GeneWeb genealogy software Main Family Names in HAM are: Kingsclere: BUTLER, COOPER, FISHER, FOSTER, GIRDLER, HAWKINS, SMITH Hazeley Heath: BARKER, CHANDLER, LEWINGTON, NEVILL(E) Main Family Names in GLA are: GRIFFITH, HOPKINS, JENKINS, LEWIS. MORGAN, PHILLIPS and CMN: HOPKINS, DAVIES

On Mon, 25 Nov 2002 22:34:55 -0000 Barbara Mallyon wrote: > Has anyone got a baptism date for Sarah MAY and where she was > born also James Taylor, born approx 1748. The only Taylors born ca 1848 are Thomas to Thomas & Mary (possibly Primour) bapt. 28 Jan 1749 and Richard to William Taylor (aka Nicholson) & Elizabeth (Buxey) born 11 Dec 1745. Both banns and marriage entry for James and Sarah have them both 'of this parish'. The witnesses were Mary Aldridge and Samuel Rolfe which doesn't help much. James signed the register as TAILOR. A Thos Tailor married Mary Ducket on 6th Sep '62, he could be a brother but I have no evidence for this. A possible James (Jacobus) is the one baptised 2 Mar 1730/31 with parents James (Jacobi) Tailor & Eleanor (Eleonora). These are likely to be the James Taylor and Elenor Baghurst who married on 11 Oct 1719. Nothing else is noted against these names. There are a burial entries for James 22 Nov 1760 and for Eleanor Taylor 24 Oct 1756 which could relate to these two. There are no ages or places noted in the burial register which suggests they were living in Kingsclere (rather than Ecchinswell, that is), It looks as though something was written after 'James Taylor' but it is un-decipherable and may simply have been 'was buried' as is the case with Eleanor. I have nothing at present for any Sarah May but William May and Sarah (Palmer) of Wolverton had a dau. Mary bapt. at St. Mary on 17 Aug 1735. I will have another look at the baptisms to see if I can find them having a Sarah. --- John Lewis <jayellatntlworlddotcom> from Bournemouth, Dorset, UK. using Debian GNU/Linux and GeneWeb genealogy software Main Family Names in HAM are: Kingsclere: BUTLER, COOPER, FISHER, FOSTER, GIRDLER, HAWKINS, SMITH Hazeley Heath: BARKER, CHANDLER, LEWINGTON, NEVILL(E) Main Family Names in GLA are: GRIFFITH, HOPKINS, JENKINS, LEWIS. MORGAN, PHILLIPS and CMN: HOPKINS, DAVIES

Hello All, Has anyone got a baptism date for Sarah MAY and where she was born also James Taylor, born approx 1748. Their marriage date was 16 October 1762 Kingsclere. Many thanks. Regards Barbara Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk

Hi Maureen, 1851 Census Winchcome Place, Newbury Francis HARRISON Head age 39 Common Labourer born Newbury Eliza wife age 36 born Litchfield Jane age 13 Scholar born Newbury Thomas VAUCHINE Visitor unmarried age 24 Carpenter born Speen, Berkshire Northbrook Street, Newbury Henry GRIGG unmarried age 23 Butcher born Kingsclere Regards Barbara Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maureen Grigg" <m.grigg@icscotland.net> To: "Barbara Mallyon" <BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk> Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2002 7:37 PM Subject: Lookup Request 1851 census | Hi Barbara | May I take advantage of your kind offer to look up someone in the 1851 | Berkshire census index. | In 1881 Eliza Harrison,widow aged 68 b Litchfield was living with her | brother Henry Gregg (should be Grigg) aged 55 b Kingsclere in Winchcombe | Place Newbury. | I would be glad to know if they are there in 1851 and hopefully Eliza's | husband will be alive and maybe some offspring. | Thanks for your trouble. | Regards Maureen Grigg. | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |

Hello David, 1851 Census for Woolhampton The Catholic Chapel (Roman Catholic Priest of St. Mary) School. James CLIFFORD age 13 Scholar born St. Pancras, Middlesex Thatcham Newtown John HERRING Head age 70 Hemp Dresser born Wantage, Berkshire Shaws Lane, St Nicholas, Newbury Town, Berks. Stephen CLIFFORD Head age 70 Chelsea Pensioner, formerly Servant born Dublin Mary wife age 72 born Dublin St. Giles Reading, Berks taken from the 1851 Census Index. Emma CLIFFORD age 2 Hannah CLIFFORD ageb 73 St. Giles Reading, Berks taken from the Census Index, (not yet put on microfiche) All HERRING family Daniel age 3 David age 34 Edward 7months Fanny age 7 Hannah age 34 Hannah age 8 James age 5 Mary A. age 9 Sarah age 10 William age 3 2nd family Jane age 14 John age 32 John age 4 Matilda age 10 Kingsclere Census Silas CLIFFORD age 22 born North Heath Hope all this help in your research ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Herring" <dave.herring@ntlworld.com> To: "Barbara Mallyon" <BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk> Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2002 7:23 PM Subject: RE: Lookup Request. | Hi Barbara, | | If you get the chance I am very interested in any info on any 'Clifford' | details from either Newtown or Thatcham and 'Herring' details from | Lambourn. | | Thanks in advance, | | Regards, David | | -----Original Message----- | From: Barbara Mallyon [mailto:BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk] | Sent: 24 November 2002 08:53 | To: ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-L@rootsweb.com | Subject: Re: Lookup Request. | | | Hello Alan and All, | | I put this message on the list on the 9th November and here it is again | just in case you did not receive it. | | The Berkshire Family History Society have a microfiche Index and | Transcript of the 1851 | Volume1:2 | Census for Newbury which includes Crookham Heath, Enborne, Hampstead | Marshall, Newbury Town, Newbury Workhouse, Newtown (Hants) and Sandleford. | | They have also issued a microfiche Index and Transcript for the 1851 | Census for Thatcham | Volume 1.1 | Aldermaston Wharf, Ashmore Green, Brimpton, Cold Ash, Colthrop, Crookham, | Greenham, Greenham Common, Harts Hill, Midgham, Shawfields, Stroud Green, | Thatcham, Thatcham Newtown, Upper Woolhampton, Wasing, Woolhampton | | Also issued a microfiche Index and Transcript for the 1851 Census for | Hungerford, | Volume 2 | Avington, Chilton Foliat, East Garston, East Shefford, Hungerford, Inkpen, | Kintbury, Lambourn, Shalbourne, West Shefford, West Woodhay. | | If anyone wants a look-up please contact me on line. | | Regards | | Barbara Mallyon | Basingstoke, Hants, UK | BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk | | | ----- Original Message ----- | From: "Alan McGowan" <mcgoa@lineone.net> | To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-L@rootsweb.com> | Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2002 11:12 PM | Subject: Re: Lookup Request. | | | | Newtown has always been in Hampshire. It was in Newbury Registration | | District, which was mostly in Berkshire with a small part in Hampshire. | | | | Newtown is in the 1851 Census Index published by Berkshire Family | History | | Society, and also in the 1851 Census Index published by Hampshire | | Genealogical Society. | | | | Alan McGowan | | | | | | | | | ============================== | To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go | to: | http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 | |

In my wonderings around the "net" I have found a web site giving details of the Baggs and Rolfe families in Hannington http://web.ukonline.co.uk/benjaminbeck/baggs.html or /rolfe.html Maybe this could help someone Regards Peter Goff Kingsclere, Hampshire, UK www.kingsclere.org.uk All outgoing e-mails are scanned for viruses before despatch. There are no attachments to this message