Hello All, This message on the Surrey rootsweb mailing list and thought you might like to read it. I am planning to make a flying visit to the Calais region of France over the Christmas/New Year holidays to view and photograph 3 relatives' war graves. If anyone knows that they too have relatives buried in the following cemeteries and would like a picture of the grave, please let me know off-list and I would be delighted to help... The cemeteries I will be visiting are: 1. Cambrin Churchyard, Pas de Calais, France 2. Le Touret Military Cemetery, Richebourg-L'Avoue, Pas de Calais, France 3. Boulogne Eastern Cemetery, Pas de Calais, France I can only visit these 3 cems as time is limited. If you are not sure whether your relatives are buried there, try going to www.cwgc.org which is an excellent resource for finding victims of WW1 & WW2! Regards, Sam sammymarshall2001@hotmail.com Researching: | MARSHALL - BROUGHTON - EVANS - TEDEN - JONES - DENMAN - WESLEY (Eng, mostly | Ldn / Mdx / Sy) | BUISSON - BRADFIELD - DREADON - SIMPKIN (Eng to NZ, via Qnslnd)

Hi Margaret, The first place that came to my mind was Albury, Surrey. Regards Barbara Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul & Margaret Moon" <4moons@hwy.com.au> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 5:46 AM Subject: Local knowledge needed | Hello Everyone, | | I have a question that I hope someone may be able to help me with. On the 1881 Census I have found who I think is my Jane Moon but she gives her Place of Birth as Adbury, Hampshire. Is this a place in the area? if so, where is it and what would be the closest church for baptisms? | | Kind Regards, | Margaret, N.S.W., Australia. | | | ============================== | To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: | http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 |

Just a quickie for those with more local knowledge than me :-) Am I right in thinking that when the abode for a baptism is given as North Sidmonton this means somewhere near North Sidmonton House, which I would consider to be part of Ecchinswell, rather than Sidmonton Court/hamlet. Sidmonton Common is also at this (Newbury) end of the parish. --- John Lewis <jayellatntlworlddotcom> from Bournemouth, Dorset, UK. using Debian GNU/Linux and GeneWeb genealogy software Main Family Names in HAM are: Kingsclere: BUTLER, COOPER, FISHER, FOSTER, GIRDLER, HAWKINS, SMITH Hazeley Heath: BARKER, CHANDLER, LEWINGTON, NEVILL(E) Main Family Names in GLA are: GRIFFITH, HOPKINS, JENKINS, LEWIS. MORGAN, PHILLIPS and CMN: HOPKINS, DAVIES

Hello Patricia, It is possible that they had assisted passage. My James Moon and family came from Burghclere to Australia in 1852 in this way. There were a couple of schemes going at different times during the first half of the 1800's depending on when they went to Canada. Kind Regards, Margaret, N.S.W., Australia. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don and Patricia Earl" <cavecanem@execulink.com> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 8:55 AM Subject: Emigration from Hampshire > Dear Barbara and ALL! > I doubt very much that anyone will precisely know why my ancestor, John Vince (c 1808 Kingsclere) left Hampshire for Canada. I am wondering, though, just how many other Hampshire folk were leaving for the colonies, and how these poor labourers found passage money. > John Vince married Rachel Clinch at Kingsclere in 1828. They had at least 5 children: James c. Baughurst 1828, George c. Kingsclere 1830, Marianna c. Wootton St. Lawrence 11831, Jane c. Wootton St. Lawrence 1833 and Joseph c. Wootton St. Lawrence 1835. I believe John was a farm labourer. I have found nothing more in England. > The next news I have on John is his marriage to Rebecca Miller in Canada in 1848. > I know at least 3 of his children from his first marriage also came to Canada. > Who paid their way? > THANKS!!!! > Patricia Earl > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

There was an article in the Hampshire Historian (some time ago)which described how the "Parish" (I THINK it was Sherborne St John)paid for 25 people to emigrate (to reduce the cost to the parish in the long term presumably)! I believe there is an account of it, by the Vicar,pasted inside the cover of the register. As I recall:_ It was about 1830(which was a bad time for ag labs) The names of those who went were listed,they went to what is now Toronto, but it was called something else then?! They were given about 5 acres of land on arrival,and he reports they were prospering and urging others to join them. I seem to remember the cost to the parish was something like £150.00 for all 25!! Perhaps someone could check the register for the sake of accuracy! I believe this also happened in Berkshire. Elizabeth Adams __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com

It's interesting that three of the children were not born in Kingsclere; perhaps the Kingsclere Parish Officers did not feel obliged to support this family in times of need. It was not unknown for a parish to pay the emigration fares as this could be cheaper than supporting families over a long period of time. -- Best regards, Peter McNulty peter@sparshott.org.uk www.sparshott.org.uk Researching: SPARSHOTT families world-wide ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don and Patricia Earl" <cavecanem@execulink.com> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 9:55 PM Subject: Emigration from Hampshire > Dear Barbara and ALL! > I doubt very much that anyone will precisely know why my ancestor, John Vince (c 1808 Kingsclere) left Hampshire for Canada. I am wondering, though, just how many other Hampshire folk were leaving for the colonies, and how these poor labourers found passage money. > John Vince married Rachel Clinch at Kingsclere in 1828. They had at least 5 children: James c. Baughurst 1828, George c. Kingsclere 1830, Marianna c. Wootton St. Lawrence 11831, Jane c. Wootton St. Lawrence 1833 and Joseph c. Wootton St. Lawrence 1835. I believe John was a farm labourer. I have found nothing more in England. > The next news I have on John is his marriage to Rebecca Miller in Canada in 1848. > I know at least 3 of his children from his first marriage also came to Canada. > Who paid their way? > THANKS!!!! > Patricia Earl > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hello David, I have the Burghclere Marriage Registers covering the time you are after so can have a look for you but I won't be back at the library to use their fiche reader until the weekend. Kind Regards, Margaret, N.S.W., Australia. ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Herring" <dave.herring@ntlworld.com> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 8:04 PM Subject: Marriage Info. > Hi Everyone, > > I am hoping someone could shed some light on a particular marriage which I > believe took place in Burghclere. > > I have a photo of my G Grandmother supposedly taken on her wedding day of > 31st December 1887 - it's dated on the reverse. Her name was Alice Clifford > and she married William House, both living in Burghclere. I have been > through all the marriage indexes several times between 1887 and 1898, when > my Grandmother was born, but to no avail. > > Can anyone help in tracking down this illusive marriage? > > Thanks in advance, > > David. > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Hello Ann Oops! I made a mistake. The date of the Dunkirk meeting is Thursday 16th January at 7.30pm upstairs in the Village Club, George Street. This is where the exhibition was held Regards Peter

Dear Barbara and ALL! I doubt very much that anyone will precisely know why my ancestor, John Vince (c 1808 Kingsclere) left Hampshire for Canada. I am wondering, though, just how many other Hampshire folk were leaving for the colonies, and how these poor labourers found passage money. John Vince married Rachel Clinch at Kingsclere in 1828. They had at least 5 children: James c. Baughurst 1828, George c. Kingsclere 1830, Marianna c. Wootton St. Lawrence 11831, Jane c. Wootton St. Lawrence 1833 and Joseph c. Wootton St. Lawrence 1835. I believe John was a farm labourer. I have found nothing more in England. The next news I have on John is his marriage to Rebecca Miller in Canada in 1848. I know at least 3 of his children from his first marriage also came to Canada. Who paid their way? THANKS!!!! Patricia Earl

Hi Carole, Your Marriage is entry No. 105 it reads: Isaac Richardson of this parish Bachelor and Amelia Baverstock of this parish Spinster were married in this church by Banns with the conscent of parents this 17th day of November 1832 by J C Stapleton Rector of Ogasl (h) in, Clare, Ireland. Solemimised by Isaac Richardson X his mark and Amelia Baverstock X her mark Witnesses Thomas Richardson X his mark and Sarah Richardson X her mark. Her name was definately written as Amelia. Just a thought, if she was born about 1805 that would make her about 27 when she was married and if that was the case she wouldn't need the conscent of her parents. Could she have been born a little later than 1805? I don't have the Baptismal records for this period so can't look at Burghclere for you sorry. Hope this is of some help. Kind Regards, Margaret, N.S.W., Australia. ----- Original Message ----- From: "CeeCeeTee" <brit_84414@yahoo.com> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 4:24 PM Subject: BAVERSTOCK > Hi Everyone, > Could someone please check the Burghclere parish > records for me? I have Amelia Baverstock (born > abt 1805 on supposedly in Newtown) marrying Isaac > Richardson 17 Nov 1832. Would you please double > check to see if her name really is Amelia, or if > I translated it wrong. I have looked and looked > and cannot find an Amelia Baverstock Christening > around this area. I'm thinking her parents might > be Wm Baverstock and Elizabeth Head, who were > married 16 Oct 1804; but cannot prove it. Many > thanks > Carole > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. > http://mailplus.yahoo.com > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Hi Everyone, I am hoping someone could shed some light on a particular marriage which I believe took place in Burghclere. I have a photo of my G Grandmother supposedly taken on her wedding day of 31st December 1887 - it's dated on the reverse. Her name was Alice Clifford and she married William House, both living in Burghclere. I have been through all the marriage indexes several times between 1887 and 1898, when my Grandmother was born, but to no avail. Can anyone help in tracking down this illusive marriage? Thanks in advance, David.

Hi Peter Thank you very much for this. Can you please just clarify the date. Wednesday is 20th. Also what time does it start please? Many thanks Ann ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Goff" <peter.goff@btinternet.com> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 12:07 PM Subject: Heritage meeting 16th January > Hello listers > > This may be of interest to members of this list living within reach of Kingsclere. > > The Heritage Association has a meeting on Wednesday January 18th at which a talk will be given by by the Rev Les Harris about his personal experiences of the chaotic and tragic events at Dunkirk in May 1940. He was a private soldier at the time in Princess Louise's Kensingston regiment. All are welcome to attend. > > Regards > Peter Goff > Kingsclere, Hampshire, UK > www.kingsclere.org.uk > > All outgoing e-mails are scanned for viruses before despatch. > There are no attachments to this message > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.423 / Virus Database: 238 - Release Date: 25/11/02

Hello Carole, I have the Marriage Records for All Saint's, Burghclere that cover the period that you are after. I am going to the library tomorrow to use their fiche reader so will check the entry for you then. Kind Regards, Margaret, N.S.W., Australia. ----- Original Message ----- From: "CeeCeeTee" <brit_84414@yahoo.com> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 4:24 PM Subject: BAVERSTOCK > Hi Everyone, > Could someone please check the Burghclere parish > records for me? I have Amelia Baverstock (born > abt 1805 on supposedly in Newtown) marrying Isaac > Richardson 17 Nov 1832. Would you please double > check to see if her name really is Amelia, or if > I translated it wrong. I have looked and looked > and cannot find an Amelia Baverstock Christening > around this area. I'm thinking her parents might > be Wm Baverstock and Elizabeth Head, who were > married 16 Oct 1804; but cannot prove it. Many > thanks > Carole > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. > http://mailplus.yahoo.com > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Hello Patricia & Don, Welcome to Kingsclere, please do not feel nervous, we are a nice bunch of people on this list. What is the name of your gg grandfather, you will possibly find that someone else is also searching your gg grandfathers surname. Regards Barbara Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk Listowner ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don and Patricia Earl" <cavecanem@execulink.com> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 12:28 PM Subject: Emigration | This is my first letter, and I'm nervous! But here goes... | Can anyone shed light on mid-19th century emigration from Hampshire (Kingsclere and general area) to Canada? My gr-gr grandfather was a farm labourer in Hampshire, who seemed to move about the area a bit. I am assuming he came to Canada to find employment, but how did he pay for passage? I know that at least 3 of his (known) 5 children also came, and most likely his wife, but I can find no record of her in Canada. (He remarried here in 1848 - from whence came ME!) | May thanks. | Patricia (Vince) Earl | | | | ============================== | To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: | http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 |

This is my first letter, and I'm nervous! But here goes... Can anyone shed light on mid-19th century emigration from Hampshire (Kingsclere and general area) to Canada? My gr-gr grandfather was a farm labourer in Hampshire, who seemed to move about the area a bit. I am assuming he came to Canada to find employment, but how did he pay for passage? I know that at least 3 of his (known) 5 children also came, and most likely his wife, but I can find no record of her in Canada. (He remarried here in 1848 - from whence came ME!) May thanks. Patricia (Vince) Earl

Hi John, That is really strange. Maybe the marriage is missing from the BT's. Thanks for checking anyway. Regards Carole --- John Lewis <jayell@ntlworld.com> wrote: > On Sat, 30 Nov 2002 21:24:32 -0800 (PST) > CeeCeeTee wrote: > > > Could someone please check the Burghclere > parish > > records for me? I have Amelia Baverstock > (born > > abt 1805 on supposedly in Newtown) marrying > Isaac > > Richardson 17 Nov 1832. Would you please > double > > check to see if her name really is Amelia, or > if > > I have checked the Bishops Transcripts for > Burghclere but there > is no trace of any Baverstock marriage or > baptisms there. > > Nothing in Highclere or Ecchinswell (covered by > Kingsclere) but > there is a marriage of William Baverstock to > Elizabeth HILL at > East Woodhay on 20 Sep 1784. The only reference > to a Baverstock > baptism there is in fact a burial on 28 Feb > 1787 of ------ > Baverstock, inf > > So cannot help with tracking down your Amelia > > > --- > John Lewis <jayellatntlworlddotcom> from > Bournemouth, Dorset, UK. > using Debian GNU/Linux and GeneWeb genealogy > software > > Main Family Names in HAM are: > Kingsclere: BUTLER, COOPER, FISHER, FOSTER, > GIRDLER, HAWKINS, > SMITH > Hazeley Heath: BARKER, CHANDLER, LEWINGTON, > NEVILL(E) > > Main Family Names in GLA are: > GRIFFITH, HOPKINS, JENKINS, LEWIS. MORGAN, > PHILLIPS > and CMN: HOPKINS, DAVIES > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion > online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com

Hello listers This may be of interest to members of this list living within reach of Kingsclere. The Heritage Association has a meeting on Wednesday January 18th at which a talk will be given by by the Rev Les Harris about his personal experiences of the chaotic and tragic events at Dunkirk in May 1940. He was a private soldier at the time in Princess Louise's Kensingston regiment. All are welcome to attend. Regards Peter Goff Kingsclere, Hampshire, UK www.kingsclere.org.uk All outgoing e-mails are scanned for viruses before despatch. There are no attachments to this message

On Sat, 30 Nov 2002 21:24:32 -0800 (PST) CeeCeeTee wrote: > Could someone please check the Burghclere parish > records for me? I have Amelia Baverstock (born > abt 1805 on supposedly in Newtown) marrying Isaac > Richardson 17 Nov 1832. Would you please double > check to see if her name really is Amelia, or if I have checked the Bishops Transcripts for Burghclere but there is no trace of any Baverstock marriage or baptisms there. Nothing in Highclere or Ecchinswell (covered by Kingsclere) but there is a marriage of William Baverstock to Elizabeth HILL at East Woodhay on 20 Sep 1784. The only reference to a Baverstock baptism there is in fact a burial on 28 Feb 1787 of ------ Baverstock, inf So cannot help with tracking down your Amelia --- John Lewis <jayellatntlworlddotcom> from Bournemouth, Dorset, UK. using Debian GNU/Linux and GeneWeb genealogy software Main Family Names in HAM are: Kingsclere: BUTLER, COOPER, FISHER, FOSTER, GIRDLER, HAWKINS, SMITH Hazeley Heath: BARKER, CHANDLER, LEWINGTON, NEVILL(E) Main Family Names in GLA are: GRIFFITH, HOPKINS, JENKINS, LEWIS. MORGAN, PHILLIPS and CMN: HOPKINS, DAVIES

Hi Everyone, Could someone please check the Burghclere parish records for me? I have Amelia Baverstock (born abt 1805 on supposedly in Newtown) marrying Isaac Richardson 17 Nov 1832. Would you please double check to see if her name really is Amelia, or if I translated it wrong. I have looked and looked and cannot find an Amelia Baverstock Christening around this area. I'm thinking her parents might be Wm Baverstock and Elizabeth Head, who were married 16 Oct 1804; but cannot prove it. Many thanks Carole __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com

Hello Carol My copy of the HGS index does include James aged 6 with same references as the other children. Regards Colin Harris On Friday, November 29, 2002 09:55, carol dolton wrote: > Kingsclere 1851 Census > Wythe All born Kingsclere. > Richard 48 001 169 > Ann 42 001 169 (BEAR) > Whether these are their children or not, I don't suppose you have access to > the full census? > William 17 001 170 > Mary Ann 11 001 170 > Ellen 9 001 170 > Charlotte 4 001 170 > I can't understand why James is not there, away somewhere? > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.423 / Virus Database: 238 - Release Date: 25/11/2002