Hello All, John PROWTING and Margaret EDISHALL marriage date should be 22 October 1575. Regards Barbara Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk

Hello All, Today Roger and I went to the Hampshire Record Office, I left all of my notes for research at home, so I spent my time there looking at books relating to Kingsclere and Basingstoke, this was one piece of information that I found and it may answer some questions :- John PROWTING and Margaret EDISHALL celebrate marriage, no licence or banns. Contract Marriage 22 October 16 June 1582. This was just one of the contract marriages in the book. The book quoted the marriage ceremony as said by both bride and groom, the minimum age for marriage 12 years old. What is a cuckold ?? A man whose wife has committed adultery. LAWRENCE researchers keep a look out for they surname of CLAVER. Baptism 23 December 1628 LAWRENCE alias CLAVER William son of William. William BRADFORD alias MILES married Margery SYLVESTER 6 February 1586 There were quite a few alias listed in the 1500s and 1600s. The Estate where we live in Basingstoke the roads are named after the Apothecary, the Butcher and a Clothier, former residents of Basingstoke. Basingstoke 25 October 1569 HOLLOWAY Charity, house built by Richard KYNGESMELL next to Chapel of the Holy Ghost. Dates for the Calendar. St. Marks Day, Mid Summer's Day, Lady Day, Michealmas Day. Feast Day of John the Baptist. Orphaned children were taken into apprenticeship until they were 21 years. 21 December 1752 James BUTLER age 14 years a poor child of the Parish of Basingstoke to Joseph BIGGS of Bentworth, Cordwainer (shoe maker) to age 21 years. Thomas HAWKINS a poor fatherless and motherless boy, age 9 years to John SPIRE the younger of Basingstoke Butcher 10 July 1694. Regards Barbara Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk

Hello All, Could there be skeletons in your cupboard ??. Thought you may find the following site of interest... http://www.oldbaileyonline.org/search/ it contains "The Old Bailey Proceedings WILL contain accounts of over 100,000 criminal trials, as well as the text from the front and back cover and advertisements." Currently available: 22,000 trials, December 1714 to December 1759 Regards Barbara Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk

On Sun, 2 Mar 2003 00:21:34 -0000 Barbara Mallyon wrote: > The message below has been sent to me by the Hampshire rootsweb > Listowners, can anyone please help. > > Subject: parish records for Kingsclere > > need mothers maiden name for Mark Foster,born sept 1853 in > Kingsclere parish. Please contact me at frskfh@provide.net. > Francis Hello I have Mark bapt. at St. Paul, Woodlands on 18 Sep 1853 to Thomas Foster and Elizabeth Fencot. Thomas married Elizabeth 26 Nov 1835 at Sherborne St. John. Mark was the youngest of ten children. Elizabeth was born in Basingstoke according to 1851 census, I hvae nothing further on her. Thomas was a brickmaker at the Brickworks in Holdup Hill, in 1851 he was employing 4 labourers. Mark's grandparents were James Foster and Sarah Williams who married at St. Mary, Kingsclere on 30 Jun 1796, Sarah being his second wife, the first being Elizabeth Fuce who he married at St. Mary on 10 Feb 1777. James Foster's parents were Thomas Smith (alias Foster) and Joan ? I was told by Margaret Ingram (Foster) that Mark and siblings Samuel (eldest son of James & Elizabeth) and Giles emigrated to the US after their mother died on 18 May 1855. Margaret had no information about where they went in the USA, but she did know Thomas had written to his friend Charles Povey in Michigan telling him of his wife's death so it is possible that is where they went. Charles Povey married Rebeccca Foster in Michigan. Rebecca was a dau of Jesse Foster and Charlotte Arlott of Waites Farm, Kingsclere. This particular line of Fosters in one I cannot find a link to at present although there is a link through Elizabeth Fuce who was a dau of Richard Fuce and Mary Smith, Mary Smith being a dau of Thomas Smith (alias Foster) and Mary Dearlove. I am a descendant of Thomas Smith and Mary Dearlove. As James father was also a 'Smith alias Foster' I think a connection between the two lines is possible if not probable. -- John Lewis <jayellatntlworlddotcom> using Debian GNU/Linux and GeneWeb genealogy software

Hello All, The message below has been sent to me by the Hampshire rootsweb Listowners, can anyone please help. Subject: parish records for Kingsclere need mothers maiden name for Mark Foster,born sept 1853 in Kingsclere parish. Please contact me at frskfh@provide.net. Francis Regards Barbara Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk Listowner

I frequently have people comment on the way I spell names in my database and say their ancestors spelt it differently. So I thought it worth copying a paragraph from a website on English Origins: <quote> _Background on surnames_ Unfortunately only a very small number of pedigrees of British families can be traced to the person who first used the surnames the families now bear. Many surnames have been corrupted to such an extent that their original forms may only be discovered after quite considerable research. This may involve tracing the pedigree step by step from the present backwards in time, not only to detect the changes but also to discover the area of the country from which the family came. Present day forms of a large number of surnames are due to the spelling of 16th or 17th century parsons, or even to the registrars of births in the 19th century. They had no guide to the spellings of names and attempted to reproduce phonetically the sounds they heard, as the great majority of the population were illiterate and had no notion that any one spelling of their name was more 'correct' than any other. All our original ancestors used a one-part name, whether they were Celts, Anglo-Saxons, Scandinavians or Normans. Certain people before the Norman conquest, and in growing numbers afterwards, had an additional 'byname', but these were not hereditary surnames in the modern sense as they did not pass from father to son. Most people in England did not, however, have anything approaching an hereditary surname until the end of the 14th century. The growing need for identification in mediaeval England had probably led the clerks to give people these additional names. They might be those of their fathers (patronymics) or of some other relation; or the name of the place where they lived or from which they had come (locative surnames); or the names of their offices or occupations; or some descriptive or nick-name. These additional names might vary considerably during a person's life, change from generation to generation, be changed at apprenticeship or be subject to translation by the clerks at their whim, so that the process by which they became fixed and passed from father to son was quite accidental. _Surname searching_ Suppose you wish to search for names which you know to exist with numerous variant spellings, what is the best way to approach this? Often common sense will suggest the best way to approach this problem, but you may have to be creative in some cases, because variant spellings can sometimes be quite bizarre. Do allow for common variants when you are searching, eg Cook, Cooke; Green and Greene (though see Boyd's Marriage Index); Mac and Mc; Humphries and Humphreys); if you still have no luck you may have to consider less common variants. Do not assume that any spelling of a name which you have obtained from one source will necessarily be the same spelling used for the same person in another source. While these differences are often due to transcription errors or mistakes in hearing a name pronounced, remember that not so long ago an individual did not necessarily pay much attention to how he or she spelled their own name; and members of the same family may have spelled their name differently. This can occur in official registrations even in the late 19th century. </quote> Sorry it is a bit long but hope it will help -- John Lewis <jayellatntlworlddotcom> from Bournemouth, Dorset, UK. using Debian GNU/Linux and GeneWeb genealogy software

----- Original Message ----- From: "Nola & Ian Towgood" <nola_ian@clear.net.nz> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 1:23 PM Subject: Fw: Fw: Grave Bingo John - we are related. I was so excited to get your information so quickly, thanks to Hampshire-Kingsclere and Barbara Mallyon. John Fisher was my mother's grandfather. After John remarried, Hannah Fisher's sister Mary Wathen (nee Prowten) and her husband James Wathen brought John's son, Arthur Charles Fisher to New Zealand. My mother was Arthur Charles' eldest child. She did not live with her parents, but was brought up by James and Mary Wathen and my parents lived with them until after I was born (8 Sept. 1929) when James and Mary had died. My mother was always in close contact with her parents however. Where do you live? Do you have any photos of family or graves. My husband and I live at Mt Maunganui, Tauranga, North Island, New Zealand. Looking forward to hearing from you further. Nola Towgood ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Lewis" <jayell@ntlworld.com> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 12:37 PM Subject: Re: Fw: Grave On Thu, 27 Feb 2003 21:25:48 -0000 Barbara Mallyon wrote: > Is anyone able to help our new subscribers. > Can you give me any assistance on how to obtain information and > if possible a photo of the grave of my great grandmother who > was buried at Kingsclere on 24 April 1877. Her name was Hannah > Fisher (nee Prowten and she died at the age of 21 on 19 April > 1877. I have no information on whether the grave would be at > the Churchyard or elsewhere in Kingsclere. I would be grateful > for any assistance you can give me. Thank you, Hello I have Hannah Prouten married 30 Apr 1874 at St. Paul, Woodlands to John Fisher. They had 2 children, Robert James, born in April 1875, Tan House, died in March 1877, Tan House. Buried on 24 March 1877, - St. Paul, Woodlands and Arthur Charles, born about January 1877, Tan House, Woodlands. Baptized on 26 January 1877, St. Paul, Woodlands Hannah died in April 1877, Tan House, Woodlands. Buried on 24 April 1877, St. Paul, Woodlands. I know there are some Fisher memorials at St. Paul but do not know if Hannah is among them. John re-married in Oct 1878 and had 3more children by his second wife Jane Hiscock. He was a cousin of my gt-grandmother Esther Fisher. - John Lewis ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Bingo John - we are related. I was so excited to get your information so quickly, thanks to Hampshire-Kingsclere and Barbara Mallyon. John Fisher was my mother's grandfather. After John remarried, Hannah Fisher's sister Mary Wathen (nee Prowten) and her husband James Wathen brought John's son, Arthur Charles Fisher to New Zealand. My mother was Arthur Charles' eldest child. She did not live with her parents, but was brought up by James and Mary Wathen and my parents lived with them until after I was born (8 Sept. 1929) when James and Mary had died. My mother was always in close contact with her parents however. Where do you live? Do you have any photos of family or graves. My husband and I live at Mt Maunganui, Tauranga, North Island, New Zealand. Looking forward to hearing from you further. Nola Towgood ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Lewis" <jayell@ntlworld.com> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 12:37 PM Subject: Re: Fw: Grave On Thu, 27 Feb 2003 21:25:48 -0000 Barbara Mallyon wrote: > Is anyone able to help our new subscribers. > Can you give me any assistance on how to obtain information and > if possible a photo of the grave of my great grandmother who > was buried at Kingsclere on 24 April 1877. Her name was Hannah > Fisher (nee Prowten and she died at the age of 21 on 19 April > 1877. I have no information on whether the grave would be at > the Churchyard or elsewhere in Kingsclere. I would be grateful > for any assistance you can give me. Thank you, Hello I have Hannah Prouten married 30 Apr 1874 at St. Paul, Woodlands to John Fisher. They had 2 children, Robert James, born in April 1875, Tan House, died in March 1877, Tan House. Buried on 24 March 1877, - St. Paul, Woodlands and Arthur Charles, born about January 1877, Tan House, Woodlands. Baptized on 26 January 1877, St. Paul, Woodlands Hannah died in April 1877, Tan House, Woodlands. Buried on 24 April 1877, St. Paul, Woodlands. I know there are some Fisher memorials at St. Paul but do not know if Hannah is among them. John re-married in Oct 1878 and had 3more children by his second wife Jane Hiscock. He was a cousin of my gt-grandmother Esther Fisher. - John Lewis ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

On Thu, 27 Feb 2003 21:25:48 -0000 Barbara Mallyon wrote: > Is anyone able to help our new subscribers. > Can you give me any assistance on how to obtain information and > if possible a photo of the grave of my great grandmother who > was buried at Kingsclere on 24 April 1877. Her name was Hannah > Fisher (nee Prowten and she died at the age of 21 on 19 April > 1877. I have no information on whether the grave would be at > the Churchyard or elsewhere in Kingsclere. I would be grateful > for any assistance you can give me. Thank you, Hello I have Hannah Prouten married 30 Apr 1874 at St. Paul, Woodlands to John Fisher. They had 2 children, Robert James, born in April 1875, Tan House, died in March 1877, Tan House. Buried on 24 March 1877, - St. Paul, Woodlands and Arthur Charles, born about January 1877, Tan House, Woodlands. Baptized on 26 January 1877, St. Paul, Woodlands Hannah died in April 1877, Tan House, Woodlands. Buried on 24 April 1877, St. Paul, Woodlands. I know there are some Fisher memorials at St. Paul but do not know if Hannah is among them. John re-married in Oct 1878 and had 3more children by his second wife Jane Hiscock. He was a cousin of my gt-grandmother Esther Fisher. - John Lewis

Hello All, Is anyone able to help our new subscribers. ----- Original Message ----- From: Nola & Ian Towgood To: ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-admin@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 11:10 PM Subject: Grave Can you give me any assistance on how to obtain information and if possible a photo of the grave of my great grandmother who was buried at Kingsclere on 24 April 1877. Her name was Hannah Fisher (nee Prowten and she died at the age of 21 on 19 April 1877. I have no information on whether the grave would be at the Churchyard or elsewhere in Kingsclere. I would be grateful for any assistance you can give me. Thank you, Nola Towgood email: nola_ian@clear.net.nz

Hello, Recently there was discussion about the name Brownjohn, the following entries are in the All Saints, Burghclere registers; Baptisms. 13th Sept 1829 born 3rd April 1829 Thomas son of Obadish & Elizabeth Brownjohn Burghclere Farmer 1st Jan 1831 William son of Obadish & Elizabeth Brownjohn Burghclere Farmer 19th Feb 1837 Church Edmond son of Thomas & Mary Brownjohn Burghclere Farmer 2nd July 1837 Ellen dau of Obadish & Elizabeth Brownjohn Burghclere Farmer 5th June 1842 Julia Martha dau of Thomas & Mary Brownjohn Burghclere Labourer 8th Nov 1846 Edwin Henry son of Thomas & Mary Brownjohn Worthling ?? Occ unable to read Burials Thomas Brownjohn Burghclere 13th October 1820 age 57 Elizabeth Brownjohn Burghclere 14th March 1838 age 39 Catherine Brownjohn Burghclere 25th July 1842 age 7 Thats all for now, Margaret, N.S.W., Australia.

Hello John, I think you are researching the name of Dyer, I found these burials on the All Saints, Burghclere registers Matthew Dyer Thathanger Parish of Kingsclere 22nd April 1814 age 61 John Dyer Newbury Berks 1st October 1814 age 77 Ann Dyer Newbury Berks 18th December 1818 age 45 Ann Dyer Newbury Berks 21st April 1819 age 70 Ann Dyer Lewes Sussex 1st November 1822 age 83 Matthew Dyer Newbury Berks 22nd November 1822 age 73 Harriet Dyer Wickham Berks 4th March 1823 age 34 Charlotte Dyer Speen Berks 4th July 1824 age 84 Mary Dyer Newbury Berks 3rd May 1828 age 81 Mary Dyer Speenham Land ? November 1839 age 62 Harriet Dyer Speenham Land 29th June 1855 age 76 All the best, Margaret, N.S.W., Australia.

Hello John and all, The following entries are on the Church Registers for All Saints, Burghclere. Baptisms. 24th Nov 1833 Isaac son of Thomas and Mary CHALLIS Burghclere Labourer 5th Oct 1834 John son of Thomas and Mary Challis Burghclere Labourer 26th Feb 1837 Isaac son of Thomas and Mary Challis Burghclere Labourer 9th Mar 1845 Martha dau of Thomas and Mary Challis Burghclere Labourer 23rd Jan 1848 Henry son of Thomas and Mary Challis Burghclere Labourer 22nd Dec 1850 Thomas son of Thomas and Mary Challis Burghclere Labourer 20th Nov 1853 William son of Thomas and Mary Challis Burghclere Labourer 24th May 1857 David a (something else is written possibly twin ?) son of Thomas and Mary Challis Burghclere Labourer 20th Aug 1859 Henry George son of Elizabeth Challis Burghclere the Folly Spinster 24th Feb 1882 Mary Jane Challis dau of William and Mary Jane Challis Burghclere Labourer there were no marriages between 1813 - 1837 Burials. Charles Challis Burghclere 7th June 1857 10 weeks David Challis Burghclere 4th July 1857 14 weeks Henry George Challis Burghclere 5th November 1859 4 months Mary Challis Burghclere 14th January 1862 54 years Thomas Challis Union House Kingsclere 29th June 1866 77 years Mary Jane Challis Burghclere 8th January 1883 13 months. Thats all I have found so far, hope it is of some help. Margaret, N.S.W., Australia. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Lewis" <jayell@ntlworld.com> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2003 8:55 PM Subject: CHALLIS - Burghclere > I seem to recall someone has Burghclere Parish Register fiche and > wonder if they could do some lookups for a correspondent of mine > who is not on this list. > > So far all I have for this name is > > Sarah Challis Born ca 1720, Burghclere. Died in September 1797 - > Coombe, Wilts > Married on 22 September 1741, Sherborne St. John., Hants, to > Henry Baggs 1716-1784, with > > Henry 1745-1807 > William ca 1755 > > The 1851 census index for Burghclere has the following (possible) > family > > Thomas 42 born Bambury?, Wilts > Mary 30 b. Highclere > John 16 b. Burghclere > Isaac 13 b. B'clere > Elizabeth 11 born Whitchurch, Hants > Jane 9 b. B'clere > Martha 6 b. B'clere > Henry 3 b. B'clere > Thomas 4 mths b. B'clere > > What we are after is confirmation that Mary is the wife of Thomas > and mother of the (some?) of the children listed, date of > marriage and name of a previous wife as it looks from the info > she may be a second wife. > > Ron Challis is descended from Isaac Challis who married Eliza > Vince of Ecchinswell in 1858. He gave his age as 21 when he > married so it looks like he could be the 13 year old listed > above. Mary is too young to be his mother. > > TIA > -- > John Lewis <jayellatntlworlddotcom> from Bournemouth, Dorset, UK. > using Debian GNU/Linux and GeneWeb genealogy software > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

On Tue, 25 Feb 2003 15:02:50 +1100 Paul & Margaret Moon wrote: I said thank you too soon as I hadn't spotted the Dyer & Brownjohn info. You really have been busy - more work for me and I have to rebuild my wife's computer today as well ;-( -- John Lewis <jayellatntlworlddotcom> from Bournemouth, Dorset, UK. using Debian GNU/Linux and GeneWeb genealogy software

On Tue, 25 Feb 2003 14:46:28 +1100 Paul & Margaret Moon wrote: > The following entries are on the Church Registers for All > Saints, Burghclere. Many thanks, I'll try to sort them out when I have made more sense of the Twitchin family - I'm getting there but sometimes wish days were twice as long. One day I'll even get around to finishing my website update and its new look and layout -- John Lewis <jayellatntlworlddotcom> from Bournemouth, Dorset, UK. using Debian GNU/Linux and GeneWeb genealogy software

Hello John, I have the fiche for burghclere and will be happy to do the look ups for you on Monday when I can get down to the library to use their fiche reader. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Lewis" <jayell@ntlworld.com> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2003 8:55 PM Subject: CHALLIS - Burghclere > I seem to recall someone has Burghclere Parish Register fiche and > wonder if they could do some lookups for a correspondent of mine > who is not on this list. > > So far all I have for this name is > > Sarah Challis Born ca 1720, Burghclere. Died in September 1797 - > Coombe, Wilts > Married on 22 September 1741, Sherborne St. John., Hants, to > Henry Baggs 1716-1784, with > > Henry 1745-1807 > William ca 1755 > > The 1851 census index for Burghclere has the following (possible) > family > > Thomas 42 born Bambury?, Wilts > Mary 30 b. Highclere > John 16 b. Burghclere > Isaac 13 b. B'clere > Elizabeth 11 born Whitchurch, Hants > Jane 9 b. B'clere > Martha 6 b. B'clere > Henry 3 b. B'clere > Thomas 4 mths b. B'clere > > What we are after is confirmation that Mary is the wife of Thomas > and mother of the (some?) of the children listed, date of > marriage and name of a previous wife as it looks from the info > she may be a second wife. > > Ron Challis is descended from Isaac Challis who married Eliza > Vince of Ecchinswell in 1858. He gave his age as 21 when he > married so it looks like he could be the 13 year old listed > above. Mary is too young to be his mother. > > TIA > -- > John Lewis <jayellatntlworlddotcom> from Bournemouth, Dorset, UK. > using Debian GNU/Linux and GeneWeb genealogy software > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Hello All I have at last completed the listing of the Tombstones and Memorials that were in the Churchyard in April 1965 before the Churchyard was cleared. The plan of the Churchyard showing the location of the various graves and also a zip file giving details of Names and Inscriptions is now on the web site. When the weather gets warmer and I havn't got the flu I will go round the Churchyard and see which Tombstones are still there. You will find all at www.kingsclere.org.uk/graves.html The first page takes a little while to download as it contains four jpeg files. Regards Peter Goff www.kingsclere.org.uk All outgoing emails are scanned for viruses No attachments to this message

Hi John, I have Sarah Challis marrying Henry Baggs with this result. This is only to three generations, I will give you the rest if you want it. Eight generations comes down to my husband. I know nothing about Sarah Challis and would be interested as to her parents etc. Regards, Carol Descendants of Henry Baggs -------------------------- 1-Henry Baggs b: 1716, (St Swithun's Church, Combe, Hants), d: 1784, (Combe Churchyard, Hants) +Sarah Challis b: 1716, d: 1797, (Combe, Hants), m: 22 Sep 1741, Sherborne St John, Hants |----2-Henry Baggs b: 1745, (St Swithun's Church, Combe, Hants), d: 1807, | (Hannington, Hants.) | +Elizabeth Wythe b: 1755, Hannington, Hants., d: 1837, (Hannington, | Hants.), m: 25 Nov 1772, <All Saints Church, Hannington>, par: Richard | Wythe and Elizabeth (Wythe) | |----3-Joseph Baggs b: 1783, Hannington, Hants., d: Q1 1860, Kingsclere, | | Hants. | |----3-Elizabeth Baggs b: 1774, (Hannington, Hants.), d: 1774, | | (Hannington, Hants.) | |----3-Elizabeth Baggs b: 1775, (Hannington, Hants.), d: 1775, | | (Hannington, Hants.) | |----3-Sarah Baggs b: 1776, (Hannington, Hants.) | |----3-Mary Baggs b: 1777, (Hannington, Hants.), d: Sep 1795 | |----3-John Baggs b: 1781, Hannington, Hants., d: 24 Jun 1838, Kingsclere, | | Hants. | |----3-Robert Baggs b: 1785, (Hannington, Hants.), d: 1801, (Hannington, | | Hants.) | |----3-Rachael Baggs b: 1787, Hannington, Hants., bur: 24 Aug 1857, | | Sidmonton, Hants. | |----3-Richard Baggs b: 1789, (<All Saints Church, Hannington>), d: 5 Apr | | 1844, Ibworth, Hants. | |----3-Hester Baggs b: 1790, (Hannington, Hants.) | |----3-Henry Baggs b: 1792, Hannington, Hants., d: 6 Oct 1873, Dorrell's | | (Wood), Wolverton | |----3-Thomas Baggs b: 1794, d: 14 May 1794, Hannington Churchyard | |----3-Hannah Baggs b: 1795, Hants. | |----3-James Baggs b: 1798, d: 1808, Kingsclere, Hants. |----2-Thomas Baggs b: 1742, (Combe, Hants) |----2-Elizabeth Baggs b: 1743, (Combe, Hants), d: 1754, (Combe, Hants) |----2-Sarah Baggs b: 1748, (Combe, Hants), d: 1749, (Combe, Hants) |----2-John Baggs b: 1750, (Combe, Hants), d: 1750, (Combe, Hants) |----2-Joseph Baggs b: 1752, (Combe, Hants) |----2-William Baggs b: Abt 1754, (Combe, Hants), bur: 8 May 1825, Hannington, | Hants. | +Mary Palmer d: 1784, (Hannington, Hants.), m: <1781>, Combe, Hants | +Unknown | |----3-Thomas Baggs b: 1789, Kingsclere, Hants., d: 1868, (Hannington, | | Hants.) | |----3-Charlotte Baggs b: 1790, (Hannington, Hants.), d: After 1851 |----2-Mary Baggs b: 1757, (Combe, Hants) | +Ambrose Bray b: <1749>, Combe, Hants, m: 15 Dec 1777, Combe, Hants |----2-Harriet Baggs b: 1760, (Combe, Hants)

I seem to recall someone has Burghclere Parish Register fiche and wonder if they could do some lookups for a correspondent of mine who is not on this list. So far all I have for this name is Sarah Challis Born ca 1720, Burghclere. Died in September 1797 - Coombe, Wilts Married on 22 September 1741, Sherborne St. John., Hants, to Henry Baggs 1716-1784, with Henry 1745-1807 William ca 1755 The 1851 census index for Burghclere has the following (possible) family Thomas 42 born Bambury?, Wilts Mary 30 b. Highclere John 16 b. Burghclere Isaac 13 b. B'clere Elizabeth 11 born Whitchurch, Hants Jane 9 b. B'clere Martha 6 b. B'clere Henry 3 b. B'clere Thomas 4 mths b. B'clere What we are after is confirmation that Mary is the wife of Thomas and mother of the (some?) of the children listed, date of marriage and name of a previous wife as it looks from the info she may be a second wife. Ron Challis is descended from Isaac Challis who married Eliza Vince of Ecchinswell in 1858. He gave his age as 21 when he married so it looks like he could be the 13 year old listed above. Mary is too young to be his mother. TIA -- John Lewis <jayellatntlworlddotcom> from Bournemouth, Dorset, UK. using Debian GNU/Linux and GeneWeb genealogy software

I spotted the following people when I was going through the Greenham Burial Registers at the Berkshire Record Office today. I thought they might be of interest to some of you. I seem to remember someone posting an enquiry about Church Brownjohn quite recently. Burials in the Chapelry of Greenham 1852 Jan 16th James Alexander, Ecchinswell Hants, age 42 years 1854 Sept 16th Church Brownjohn, Greenham Common age 89 years 1862 July 5th Benjamin Aplin, Kingsclere 65 years He died [illegible] by in Greenham parish Thursday July 3rd Coincidentally, the name Aplin appears in my husband's family in Nettlecombe, Somerset. (One of our Kennetts married an Aplin.) I don't suppose there's any connection but I would be interested to hear from any other Aplin researchers. Best wishes Debbie