Hello Evelyn and Barbara Bishops Green is about half a mile off the A339 road by Greenham Common. It is just over the border into Berkshire but is included in Sydmonton and Ecchinswell Parish Council area. Regarda Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Mallyon" <BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 8:45 AM Subject: Re: bishop Green > Hello Evelyn, > > The only place called Bishop/s Green in the road atlas is in Essex near > Chelmsford, have you got the correct name. > > Removal Orders to Kingsclere 1787 > John POCOCK, labourer and children Martha age 8, Charlotte age 3 an Sarah > 11 weeks from Basing (now called old Basing). > > Apprentiship Indentures 1697 > Richard WITHE to James POCOCK occupation Husbandry. > > Regards > > Barbara Mallyon > Basingstoke, Hants, UK > BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Evelyn Isley" <eisley@mail.ocis.net> > To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 4:20 AM > Subject: Re: bishop Green > > > | Dear Barb. > | I am interested in John James Pocock born 1775 - 1842 -( living at > Bishop Green at time of his death) > | And his family living in the same Bishop Green until the 1960's. > Listed as a Yeoman farmer. Any information on how he acquired the > property, wills, or if it was passed on to him by his father? > | John James & Mary Pocock > | Children: William 1799, John 1801, David 1803, James 1805, George > 1808, Eliz. 1812, Charles 1814, Thomas 1816. > | Mary(Hobbs) Pocock died 1817, > | John James remarried Hester Hughes 1819. > | 1841- Listed as a farmer. > | Did Bishop Green come under Hampshire back then and Berkshire area now? > | > | Thanks > | Evelyn (Pocock) Isley > | B.C. Canada > | > | > | ============================== > | To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, go to: > | http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > | > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Look up Barbara & a note for Jenny. Burial dates required; William EDWARDS Died 6 October 1900 at Wolverton aged 83. Wife Joanna/Johanna EDWARDS Died 22 May 1903 at Northcroft Lane, Newbury aged 84. Cannot find either Buried in Kingsclere but guess William was buried in Wolverton as he lived there. But was Joanna buried with him? - she appears to have been living with her married daughter Sarah Ann DENNIS who was a Temperance Hall Caretaker in Newbury and probably had her mother buried there. With regards to the MILES family and Chedworth connection, I did write to Hampshire R.O. last year re Removal or Settlement Certificates for both William's and they could find nothing [Barbara now confirmed] and this week received a letter from the Gloucestshire R.O. and this is what they said: A member of staff checked the R.O. catalogue of Parish Overseers' papers for the parish of Chedworth [P77] but the only reference to a William MILES was in the miscellaneous settlement papers [P77a OV 3/5/2/3]. This transcript contained the following information: 12 August 1767 Warrant to apprehend Mathew JOCHAM and William MILES of Chedworth, labourers as having deserted their families. No other information is given in the document. As William and Hannah's eldest son William would have only been 14 years old in 1767 and probably would not have had a family, this document no doubt refers to William MILES Senior, although the possibility exists that it might refer to a different William MILES altogether. I hope this information is of use and please contact me if I can be of further assistance. Signed pp John PUTLEY / Mr. P.R. Evans, Archivest [Searchroom]. NOTE:- This info cost me nothing and I am very impressed with the response to my letter, full marks Gloucestershire R.O. Denis [from an overcast Eastbourne]

On Fri, 7 Mar 2003 20:20:18 -0800 Evelyn Isley wrote: > Did Bishop Green come under Hampshire back then and Berkshire > area now? Bishops Green was and is part of Ecchinswell Parish. The County boundary follows the course of the river Enborne and this goes throught the middle of modern Bishops Green so some of the houses will be in Greenham Common, Berks. I cannot see any Pococks recorded for Ecchinswell in 1851, 1881 or 1891 but there is a Charles age 67, farmer born Greenham at Bishops Green Cottage, Greenham, Berks in 1881. Charles age 37 Farm Bailiff, wife Mary and 5 children, youngest Louisa 5m. are listed for Greenham Common in 1851. In 1881 the Charles of Bishops Green Cottage has wife Ann and 29 year old dau. Louisa (unmarried with 11m old Ernest) in household so it looks like the same family. Also in Greenham Common in 1851 is John 49, woodman, born Adbury (this is just across the border in Hants and a little west of Bishops Green and a George 43, butcher, born Greenham. There was a lot of toing and froing of these 'border' families and I think that half the time they weren't sure where they were born. But it does look as though your Pocock family were a Greenham rather than Ecchinswell family. -- John Lewis <jayellatntlworlddotcom> from Bournemouth, Dorset, UK. using Debian GNU/Linux and GeneWeb genealogy software

Hello Margaret, The problem is that the 1871 Census is on film and not on the microfiche like the 1861 Census. You need a look-up at the Hampshire Record Office, Winchester. Regards Barbara Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul & Margaret Moon" <4moons@hwy.com.au> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 4:44 AM Subject: 1871 Census covering the Highclere Area | Hi, | | I was wondering if anyone has got easy access to the 1871 Census at Highclere and would be willing to do a lookup for me. Please contact me off list. | | Thanking you, | Margaret, N.S.W., Australia. | | | ============================== | To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: | http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 |

Hello Candy, This is all that was listed in the papers. Bastardy Bonds 1715 Hester TULL bonds by Thomas TYLER senior of Foxcoat, Kingsclere yeoman (father) £40. Nothing listed in the Apprenticeship Indentures for Kingsclere, can anyone else help with Tadley. Regards Barbara Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk Original Message ----- From: "Candy Bridge" <candyb13@yahoo.co.uk> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 5:45 AM Subject: Re: ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-D Digest V03 #50 | Hi Barbara, | | Sorry... I am a bit confused about your offer, does it | include lookups of the Apprenticeship Indentures? I do | not know much about Apprenticeship Indentures, do they | exist when sons work for their fathers? My 3x Gt | G/father Joseph TULL was apparently born at Mortimer, | on 16 NOV 1791 and baptised at Tadley Independent | Chapel on 22 DEC 1791. He was on the 1851 census in | Tadley (I only have the 1851 index details). He was on | the 1861 & 71 at Tadley Road. Joseph took on his | father's trade, Cordwainer, as did Joseph's son Thomas | TULL born at Tadley 7 MAY 1845, I do not have a | baptism date for Thomas, I do not know if he was also | baptised at Tadley Independent or at St Peters parish | church. | | So far I have not linked up with anyone else on the | Kingsclere list, I hope I will find some cousins in | the Kingsclere area soon! Thomas' mother (Elizabeth | BALDWIN nee WILD) was from Weston Patrick which seems | not to come under Kingsclere. | | Any assistance with my research would be greatly | appreciated | TIA | Kind regards, | Candy Bridge | NSW Australia --- | ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: | | | ______________________________ | | > ATTACHMENT part 3 message/rfc822 | > Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 11:49:51 -0000 | > From: "Barbara Mallyon" | > <BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk> | > To: ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-L@rootsweb.com | > Subject: Kingsclere Research | > | > Hello All, | > | > If anyone has hit a brick wall about their | > Kingsclere and villages | > ancestors, I now have the complete Parish Register | > for Kingsclere, | > Kingsclere Woodlands and Headley. | > Baptisms, Marriage Banns, Marriages and Burials all | > on microfiche. | > | > Please put your look-up requests on the Kingsclere | > List, your ancestor | > could be linked into others family trees, as many of | > you have found out, | > and the answers may help them. There is now the | > ability for some of you to | > get your family trees back to the 1500s and 1600s, | > you only have to ask. | > | > Also I now have the Kingsclere Parish Records of | > Settlement Certificates, | > Settlement Examinations, | > Removal Orders to Kingsclere, | > Removal Orders from Kingsclere, | > Vagrancy Passes and Examinations, | > Bastardy Examinations, | > Warrants to Apprehend the Father of Bastards | > Orders for the Maintenance of Bastards | > Bastardy Bonds | > Bastardy Documents | > Apprenticeship Indentures | > | > The above photocopy information came from the | > Hampshire Record Office, | > Winchester at 10p per page if anyone is interested. | > | > It is now up to you, we now have the information we | > need for our family | > tree, let us use it. | > | > Regards | > | > Barbara Mallyon | > Basingstoke, Hants, UK | > BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk | > Listowner | > | | | http://mobile.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Mobile | - Check & compose your email via SMS on your Telstra or Vodafone mobile. | | | ============================== | To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: | http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 |

Hello Evelyn, The only place called Bishop/s Green in the road atlas is in Essex near Chelmsford, have you got the correct name. Removal Orders to Kingsclere 1787 John POCOCK, labourer and children Martha age 8, Charlotte age 3 an Sarah 11 weeks from Basing (now called old Basing). Apprentiship Indentures 1697 Richard WITHE to James POCOCK occupation Husbandry. Regards Barbara Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Evelyn Isley" <eisley@mail.ocis.net> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 4:20 AM Subject: Re: bishop Green | Dear Barb. | I am interested in John James Pocock born 1775 - 1842 -( living at Bishop Green at time of his death) | And his family living in the same Bishop Green until the 1960's. Listed as a Yeoman farmer. Any information on how he acquired the property, wills, or if it was passed on to him by his father? | John James & Mary Pocock | Children: William 1799, John 1801, David 1803, James 1805, George 1808, Eliz. 1812, Charles 1814, Thomas 1816. | Mary(Hobbs) Pocock died 1817, | John James remarried Hester Hughes 1819. | 1841- Listed as a farmer. | Did Bishop Green come under Hampshire back then and Berkshire area now? | | Thanks | Evelyn (Pocock) Isley | B.C. Canada | | | ============================== | To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: | http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 |

Dear List, I am researching the Prismall family of Kingsclere and have been given a wonderful amount of information from researchers of this list. In respect of the lookup offer, I am now looking to fill the gaps or obtain any reference to Prismall in the records. Do you have any records on the following: a. Death details for Elizabeth Prismall, nee Booth. Wife of John Prismall, married Kingsclere 1818. b. Parentage of Mary Parsons, born circa 1761. Married Joshua Booth, 10 Apr 1793 Kingclere. c. Any details on Sarah Booth, daughter of Mary Parsons and Joshua Booth, born 1 March 1805 d. Anything on Samuel Prismall, born 1819, Joshua Prismall, 19 December 1824, Caleb, 24 May 1826, Martha, 1 March 1828, Elizabeth, July 1831, all children of John Prismall and Elizabeth Booth. d. Parentage of Ann Smith, who married John Prismall, 21 Sep 1755 Kingsclere. Four of the sons of John Prismall and Elizabeth Booth came to Australia. Carol Dale

Hi There, Does anybody know where Applefield could be? The only ones I can find are in Massachusetts or Northwich England, when I put it into Google. I'm sure my John Dolton didn't go that far to marry his Sarah? Since he's living in Flaxfield Road in 1881, maybe it's a road in Basingstoke? regards, Carol ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Mallyon" <BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 11:27 PM Subject: Re: Kingsclere Research > Hello Jenny, > > I have not got any proof of the Chedworth connection and nothing written > in the Settlement Certificates which is a great pity. > > On Tuesday when we were at the Record Office in Winchester, I found some > books that listed the residents of Kingsclere in the 1500s and 1600s, the > earliest sign of MILES was in 1586 BRADFORD alias William MILES, there > were also MILLS and a family of MYLES/MYELES/MYLLES > > 2 December 1612 Joan MILLS married Robert BEARDE > 5 December 1613 George MILLS married Elizabeth POINTER > 7 March 1673 Joan MILLS married Edward WILMOTT all married at Kingsclere. > > Has anyone else got any proof of the Chedworth Link.?? > > Regards > > Barbara Mallyon > Basingstoke, Hants, UK > BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "jenny beaumont" <jenny@jabeaumont.u-net.com> > To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 8:55 PM > Subject: Kingsclere Research > > > | At 09:00 07/03/2003 -0700, you wrote: > | >Also I now have the Kingsclere Parish Records of Settlement > Certificates, > | >Settlement Examinations, > | >Removal Orders to Kingsclere, > | >Removal Orders from Kingsclere, > | >Vagrancy Passes and Examinations, > | >Bastardy Examinations, > | >Warrants to Apprehend the Father of Bastards > | >Orders for the Maintenance of Bastards > | >Bastardy Bonds > | >Bastardy Documents > | >Apprenticeship Indentures > | > | Hello Barbara > | > | Any progress from all this on William Miles and Mary Withers and a > possible > | connection to Chedworth? > | > | Regards > | Jenny Beaumont > | Aberdeenshire, Scotland > | > | > | ============================== > | To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, go to: > | http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > | > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Hello Jenny, I have not got any proof of the Chedworth connection and nothing written in the Settlement Certificates which is a great pity. On Tuesday when we were at the Record Office in Winchester, I found some books that listed the residents of Kingsclere in the 1500s and 1600s, the earliest sign of MILES was in 1586 BRADFORD alias William MILES, there were also MILLS and a family of MYLES/MYELES/MYLLES 2 December 1612 Joan MILLS married Robert BEARDE 5 December 1613 George MILLS married Elizabeth POINTER 7 March 1673 Joan MILLS married Edward WILMOTT all married at Kingsclere. Has anyone else got any proof of the Chedworth Link.?? Regards Barbara Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "jenny beaumont" <jenny@jabeaumont.u-net.com> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 8:55 PM Subject: Kingsclere Research | At 09:00 07/03/2003 -0700, you wrote: | >Also I now have the Kingsclere Parish Records of Settlement Certificates, | >Settlement Examinations, | >Removal Orders to Kingsclere, | >Removal Orders from Kingsclere, | >Vagrancy Passes and Examinations, | >Bastardy Examinations, | >Warrants to Apprehend the Father of Bastards | >Orders for the Maintenance of Bastards | >Bastardy Bonds | >Bastardy Documents | >Apprenticeship Indentures | | Hello Barbara | | Any progress from all this on William Miles and Mary Withers and a possible | connection to Chedworth? | | Regards | Jenny Beaumont | Aberdeenshire, Scotland | | | ============================== | To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: | http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 |

Hello Sue, Settlement Certificate. 1765 John SPICER, wife Ann & Sons James age 5 and daughter Sarah age 3 from Hannington. 1800 William SPICER of Overton served 3 years with Farmer SMALL of Mapledurwell who he left 5 years ago; Michaelmas 1795 hire by the Bailiff to the Prince of Wales for 7s (shillings) and 8d (pence) a week and a guinea (£1.1shilling) at Michaelmas, and remained in Kempshott under that agreement till Christmas when he moved with other servants to the Grange and hence to Critchill (Somerset or Critchell, Dorset) and then returning to the Grange where he remained for a year and 3 months for increased wages. Parish Removal Order to Kingsclere 1756. Cornelius SPICER, wife Sarah and children John 15/16 and Mary 11. from Romsey Extra Removal Orders from Kingsclere 1812 Daniel Spicer, wife Letitia and children John 3 and a half years and William 1 year, to Tilehurst, Berks. PR Vagrancy Passes and Examinations 1773 Cornelius SPICER, labourer apprehended as a rogue and vagabond at North Waltham, says that he was sent to Kingsclere by a Removal Order about 15 years ago and that he has not since gained legal settlement elsewhere. Vagrancy pass to convey him to Kingsclere 4 October 1773. Apprenticeship Indentures 1638 Apprentice John Fincent to John SPICER Yeoman trade Husbandry Regards Barbara Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Matthews" <susan.matthews1@ntlworld.com> To: "Barbara Mallyon" <BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk>; <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 8:56 PM Subject: RE: Kingsclere Research | Barbara | | Could you please look up Daniel and Letita ( Lydia) Spicer and their 2 | children John and William who had a removal order served on them 10/7/1812 | from Kingsclere to Tilehurst, I just wonder if there was anything else i.e. | did they get sent back. As Daniel was born in Hannington and Tilehurst was | Lydia's home parish. | | | Sue Matthews | Abingdon, Oxon | wiblin@one-name.org | | -----Original Message----- | From: Barbara Mallyon [mailto:BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk] | Sent: 07 March 2003 11:50 | To: ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-L@rootsweb.com | Subject: Kingsclere Research | | Hello All, | | If anyone has hit a brick wall about their Kingsclere and villages | ancestors, I now have the complete Parish Register for Kingsclere, | Kingsclere Woodlands and Headley. | Baptisms, Marriage Banns, Marriages and Burials all on microfiche. | | Please put your look-up requests on the Kingsclere List, your ancestor | could be linked into others family trees, as many of you have found out, | and the answers may help them. There is now the ability for some of you to | get your family trees back to the 1500s and 1600s, you only have to ask. | | Also I now have the Kingsclere Parish Records of Settlement Certificates, | Settlement Examinations, | Removal Orders to Kingsclere, | Removal Orders from Kingsclere, | Vagrancy Passes and Examinations, | Bastardy Examinations, | Warrants to Apprehend the Father of Bastards | Orders for the Maintenance of Bastards | Bastardy Bonds | Bastardy Documents | Apprenticeship Indentures | | The above photocopy information came from the Hampshire Record Office, | Winchester at 10p per page if anyone is interested. | | It is now up to you, we now have the information we need for our family | tree, let us use it. | | Regards | | Barbara Mallyon | Basingstoke, Hants, UK | BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk | Listowner | | | | | ============================== | To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go | to: | http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 |

Hello Debbie, Sorry no sign of the TILBURY family in any of the papers, the parents could have had a Contract Marriage that I mentioned about in a message a few days ago. There is no sign of the baptism for Mary Ann TILBURY.If Mary Ann's birth was registered in Kingsclere, she could have been baptised any where, at any time of the life, if she was baptised. I have looked for 10 years in Kingsclere and in Kingsclere Woodlands. Regards Barbara Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: <DEBBIEKENNETT@aol.com> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 6:27 PM Subject: Re: Kingsclere Research | Barbara | | If you don't get too inundated with requests I would be most grateful if you | could have a look at the various Kingsclere bastardy papers to see if you can | find any reference to my great great great grandmother Mary Ann Tidbury and | her four illegitimate children. I did in fact e-mail the Hampshire Record | Office to ask about the poor law papers for Sydmonton and they told me that | nothing had survived! I have posted Mary Ann's details to the list before but | I'll just briefly give a resume of the most recent information that I have: | | Mary Ann Tidbury was born on 29th March 1832 in Sydmonton, the daughter of | David and Phoebe Tidbury. She had at least four illegitimate children: | | 1. Ellen Jane Tidbury, born on 18th July 1850 in Sydmonton [new info from | birth certificate], baptised on 18th August 1850 at St Lawrence, Ecchinswell | | 2. George Napoleon Frederick William Tidbury, born on 30th May 1856 in | Sydmonton, baptised on 17th July 1860 at St Lawrence (minus the Napoleon and | Frederick) | | 3. Mary Ann Tidbury, born in the January quarter of 1863 in Kingsclere. The | 1871 census for Greenham shows her place of birth as Ecchinswell. [New info | from 1871 census: Mary Ann Tidbury, 38, dressmaker, living in Bishops Green, | Greenham Common, with Mary Ann Tidbury, daughter, scholar, aged 8, and | Matilda L Tidbury, aged 1. Mary Ann senior was shown as unmarried but this | was crossed out and the word widow inserted instead. Mary Ann junior was | listed as illegitimate but this too was also crossed out. There was also a | ditto under the word illegitimate for Matilda but this wasn't crossed out!] | | 4.Matilda Lavinia Christiana Tidbury, born in the June quarter of 1869 in | Sydmonton, baptised as an adult on 21st April 1889. | | I would also be interested to know if you can find the baptism of Mary Ann | junior in 1863. The family had moved to Greenham Common by 1871 but they | still seem to have been in Sydmonton or Ecchinswell in 1863. | | Thank you in advance for your help. | | Best wishes | | Debbie Kennett | Researching: | TIDBURY Greenham, Ecchinswell, Sydmonton, Alverstoke, London | SAUNDERS Brockenhurst and London | CRUWYS anywhere and everywhere | CRUSE, BOUNDY, SQUIRE, DILLON, SYMONS, EASTMOND North Devon | WIGGINS, RATT(E)Y, TRASK London and Middlesex | WO(O)LFENDEN, BODGER, BERRYMAN, WALKER, UNDERWOOD Cambs/Hunts | KENNETT All England (any with hunting connections) | | | ============================== | To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: | http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 |

Hello Carol, I have looked through all of the papers that I have there is nothing for the surname of WARWICK. There are some Settlement Certificates for DOLTON. Thomas DOWLTON, labourer and wife Elizabeth from Wasing, Berkshire to Kingsclere. Removal Orders. James DOLTON from Up Nateley to Kingsclere 1818 Settlement Examination. William DOLTON of Kingsclere: born in Kingsclere, but father parishoner of Wasing, Berks: he was hired for a year by Mr. Christopher Savory of Bradfield, Berks at Aldermaston Fair: then he was hired for a year by William GODDARD of Wasing, Berks; he has a wife and a son James (6 months). year 1811 There is a big write-up for James Dolton age 20 bachelor removed from Brimpton, Berks to Kingsclere, I will get that scanned and then send it to you. Regards Barbara Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "carol dolton" <caroldolton@madasafish.com> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 2:37 PM Subject: Re: Kingsclere Research | Hello Barbara, | Could I be amongst the first to ask you a question? | | I'm interested in William WARWICK. | He was born in Tunworth in 1784, he married Ann Edwards in Alton in 1812. | They had what I think is their first child in Kingsclere, in 1815. | | I was wondering if there was a removal order 'to' Kingsclere put upon them. | | Thank you for offering these look ups | Regards, | Carol | | | | ============================== | To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: | http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 |

Barbara Could you please look up Daniel and Letita ( Lydia) Spicer and their 2 children John and William who had a removal order served on them 10/7/1812 from Kingsclere to Tilehurst, I just wonder if there was anything else i.e. did they get sent back. As Daniel was born in Hannington and Tilehurst was Lydia's home parish. Sue Matthews Abingdon, Oxon wiblin@one-name.org -----Original Message----- From: Barbara Mallyon [mailto:BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk] Sent: 07 March 2003 11:50 To: ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Kingsclere Research Hello All, If anyone has hit a brick wall about their Kingsclere and villages ancestors, I now have the complete Parish Register for Kingsclere, Kingsclere Woodlands and Headley. Baptisms, Marriage Banns, Marriages and Burials all on microfiche. Please put your look-up requests on the Kingsclere List, your ancestor could be linked into others family trees, as many of you have found out, and the answers may help them. There is now the ability for some of you to get your family trees back to the 1500s and 1600s, you only have to ask. Also I now have the Kingsclere Parish Records of Settlement Certificates, Settlement Examinations, Removal Orders to Kingsclere, Removal Orders from Kingsclere, Vagrancy Passes and Examinations, Bastardy Examinations, Warrants to Apprehend the Father of Bastards Orders for the Maintenance of Bastards Bastardy Bonds Bastardy Documents Apprenticeship Indentures The above photocopy information came from the Hampshire Record Office, Winchester at 10p per page if anyone is interested. It is now up to you, we now have the information we need for our family tree, let us use it. Regards Barbara Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk Listowner ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

At 09:00 07/03/2003 -0700, you wrote: >Also I now have the Kingsclere Parish Records of Settlement Certificates, >Settlement Examinations, >Removal Orders to Kingsclere, >Removal Orders from Kingsclere, >Vagrancy Passes and Examinations, >Bastardy Examinations, >Warrants to Apprehend the Father of Bastards >Orders for the Maintenance of Bastards >Bastardy Bonds >Bastardy Documents >Apprenticeship Indentures Hello Barbara Any progress from all this on William Miles and Mary Withers and a possible connection to Chedworth? Regards Jenny Beaumont Aberdeenshire, Scotland

Dear Barb. I am interested in John James Pocock born 1775 - 1842 -( living at Bishop Green at time of his death) And his family living in the same Bishop Green until the 1960's. Listed as a Yeoman farmer. Any information on how he acquired the property, wills, or if it was passed on to him by his father? John James & Mary Pocock Children: William 1799, John 1801, David 1803, James 1805, George 1808, Eliz. 1812, Charles 1814, Thomas 1816. Mary(Hobbs) Pocock died 1817, John James remarried Hester Hughes 1819. 1841- Listed as a farmer. Did Bishop Green come under Hampshire back then and Berkshire area now? Thanks Evelyn (Pocock) Isley B.C. Canada

Hello Barbara, Could I be amongst the first to ask you a question? I'm interested in William WARWICK. He was born in Tunworth in 1784, he married Ann Edwards in Alton in 1812. They had what I think is their first child in Kingsclere, in 1815. I was wondering if there was a removal order 'to' Kingsclere put upon them. Thank you for offering these look ups Regards, Carol

Barbara If you don't get too inundated with requests I would be most grateful if you could have a look at the various Kingsclere bastardy papers to see if you can find any reference to my great great great grandmother Mary Ann Tidbury and her four illegitimate children. I did in fact e-mail the Hampshire Record Office to ask about the poor law papers for Sydmonton and they told me that nothing had survived! I have posted Mary Ann's details to the list before but I'll just briefly give a resume of the most recent information that I have: Mary Ann Tidbury was born on 29th March 1832 in Sydmonton, the daughter of David and Phoebe Tidbury. She had at least four illegitimate children: 1. Ellen Jane Tidbury, born on 18th July 1850 in Sydmonton [new info from birth certificate], baptised on 18th August 1850 at St Lawrence, Ecchinswell 2. George Napoleon Frederick William Tidbury, born on 30th May 1856 in Sydmonton, baptised on 17th July 1860 at St Lawrence (minus the Napoleon and Frederick) 3. Mary Ann Tidbury, born in the January quarter of 1863 in Kingsclere. The 1871 census for Greenham shows her place of birth as Ecchinswell. [New info from 1871 census: Mary Ann Tidbury, 38, dressmaker, living in Bishops Green, Greenham Common, with Mary Ann Tidbury, daughter, scholar, aged 8, and Matilda L Tidbury, aged 1. Mary Ann senior was shown as unmarried but this was crossed out and the word widow inserted instead. Mary Ann junior was listed as illegitimate but this too was also crossed out. There was also a ditto under the word illegitimate for Matilda but this wasn't crossed out!] 4.Matilda Lavinia Christiana Tidbury, born in the June quarter of 1869 in Sydmonton, baptised as an adult on 21st April 1889. I would also be interested to know if you can find the baptism of Mary Ann junior in 1863. The family had moved to Greenham Common by 1871 but they still seem to have been in Sydmonton or Ecchinswell in 1863. Thank you in advance for your help. Best wishes Debbie Kennett Researching: TIDBURY Greenham, Ecchinswell, Sydmonton, Alverstoke, London SAUNDERS Brockenhurst and London CRUWYS anywhere and everywhere CRUSE, BOUNDY, SQUIRE, DILLON, SYMONS, EASTMOND North Devon WIGGINS, RATT(E)Y, TRASK London and Middlesex WO(O)LFENDEN, BODGER, BERRYMAN, WALKER, UNDERWOOD Cambs/Hunts KENNETT All England (any with hunting connections)

Hello Barbara, I am still seeking a baptism for Ann Bridgeman, who was born around 1740 and later married Charles Stocker at East Woodhay, by which time she was a widow (Tyrell) I have not checked Headley for her, could you please check for me, just in case ! Despite fourteen yesrs of searching she has successfully hidden from me !! Cheers for now, Rood Whale, Andover.

Hello All, If anyone has hit a brick wall about their Kingsclere and villages ancestors, I now have the complete Parish Register for Kingsclere, Kingsclere Woodlands and Headley. Baptisms, Marriage Banns, Marriages and Burials all on microfiche. Please put your look-up requests on the Kingsclere List, your ancestor could be linked into others family trees, as many of you have found out, and the answers may help them. There is now the ability for some of you to get your family trees back to the 1500s and 1600s, you only have to ask. Also I now have the Kingsclere Parish Records of Settlement Certificates, Settlement Examinations, Removal Orders to Kingsclere, Removal Orders from Kingsclere, Vagrancy Passes and Examinations, Bastardy Examinations, Warrants to Apprehend the Father of Bastards Orders for the Maintenance of Bastards Bastardy Bonds Bastardy Documents Apprenticeship Indentures The above photocopy information came from the Hampshire Record Office, Winchester at 10p per page if anyone is interested. It is now up to you, we now have the information we need for our family tree, let us use it. Regards Barbara Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk Listowner

Hello all I felt I had to share this with you, particularly as it reflects well on Peter Goff's Kingsclere website. I was contacted a late last year by a Les GURDLER in Australia, who had found my interest In GIRDLER/GURDLER's on the surnames page of the Kingsclere website. Les is descended from a Richard Andrew GURDLER, the son of Joseph GURDLER, Joseph was born in Kingsclere in 1812, but his children were born in Uxbridge, Middlesex and I am descended from one of Joseph's other children. I had my doubts about a connection because I didn't have a Richard Andrew in any of my research but Les was able to provide copies of a marriage certificate for Richard in Australia which confirmed his parentage, the suspicion is that Richard was born as plain Andrew and that he ran off to Australia for some reason leaving a wife and children in this country. Now that seemed a pretty good result, but in the last week I have been contacted by GIRDLER relatives in New Zealand, this time not directly through the website but via the link to Les in Australia. This is the really "spooky" part of this, one of Les's neighbours is related in some way to the GIRDLER's in NZ and took a copy of information I had sent Les to show them, at this time Les was not aware of a connection. it transpires that the NZ GIRDLER's also originate from Kingsclere and we are all distantly related. The moral of this tale is to make sure your names are listed on the Kingsclere website as it can lead to the most surprising discoveries. Regards Colin Harris --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.458 / Virus Database: 257 - Release Date: 24/02/2003