Hello Charlie, and Monina, Nice to hear from you. Joyce E. COX is not listed in the Parish Register for Kingsclere, if you have found this baptism in St. Catherine's Records, Joyce could have been baptised in any of the small villages as listed by Debbie in a previous message she sent to the list :- The Kingsclere Registration District covers the following parishes (according to FreeBMD): Ashmansworth, Baughurst, Burghclere, Crux Easton, East Woodhay, Ecchinswell, Ewhurst, Hannington, Highclere, Kingsclere, Litchfield, Newtown (from 1895), Sydmonton, Tadley, Wolverton and Woodcott. You could always send to the Basingstoke Registry Office for her birth Certificate. The Superintendent Registrar Hampshire North Registration District The Register Office "Goldings" London Road Basingstoke Hampshire RG21 4AN Tel: 01256 3221188 Make you cheque payable to the Hampshire County Council for £7.00 together with a stamped addressed envelope for them to send you the Birth Certificate Regards Barbara Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charlie and Monina" <cmrodgers@ntlworld.com> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2003 4:23 PM Subject: KINGSCLERE RECORDS | Hello Barbara, | Could you look up a baptism for me the name is JOYCE E COX born in | KINGSCLERE in the MARCH quarter of 1941. | Many thanks, | CHARLIE RODGERS | | | ============================== | To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: | http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 |

Hello Barbara, Could you look up a baptism for me the name is JOYCE E COX born in KINGSCLERE in the MARCH quarter of 1941. Many thanks, CHARLIE RODGERS

Hello All From Ancestors Magazine "Due to go live 1 April www.1837online.com. This is the fate from which the GRO have given permission for those who have purchased the GRo Indexes on microfiche to make digital images available to the public. The site offers a digital image of every page of the indexes from 1837 to 18 months ago, making it the first to offer the more recent GRO indexes online. 1837 is a pay per view asystem and you will need to buy credits in advance with each credit you get to view ONE page of the index. The basic charge is £5 for 50 credits valid for 45 days." I have tried this site and it is easy to use. You will have to download a viewer plug-in available off the site. The only disadvantage is that you can only search by using the first three letters of the surname. OK for unusual names but give a lot of pages for more common names such as SMI. From 1984 onwards you can search by Surname and First Name which gives narrower results. You can print out the pages or save them to disk. I found references for ten people with still some money left from my £5 which nI can use later. Cheaper than the cost of petrol to Winchester! Regards Peter Goff

Hello All, I have just come across a Marriage entry in the Parish Register, where the Vicar/Rector has written the grooms surname down as DICKSON and the groom has written his own name down as DIXON, this is the correct spelling. Please be careful and keep on checking, the IGI, Family Search, etc. are not always correct with the spellings of names, get back-up documents if possible. If I had first found the name of DICKSON in starting my research, I would have hit a Brickwall, had I not checked the signature of the groom. Regards Barbara Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk

If you have visited my 'Kingsclere Families' website in the last few days you may have noticed that I am setting up a new website at:- http://www.startx.co.uk You will notice a strong resemblance to Peter Goff's Kingsclere History website. This is intentional as both sites cover Kingsclere and surrounding villages but from slightly different aspects. I have Peter's permission to use his design for the pages. I still have a lot to do before I can close my original site. I am trying to put only up-to-date data in the new pages so it will take a while before I have checked all the family trees and can transfer them over. So don't remove your bookmark to the old pages just yet. In case anyone wonders why 'startx.co.uk' When I decided to register my own domain I was going to use something like jayell.co.uk but was offered the startx one by a fellow member of the Hampshire Linux User Group. As it was already registered it was easy to transfer the ownership to me. 'startx' is the command used in GNU/Linux to start the Graphical User Interface (GUI) which can look like the desktop interface you will be used to from M$Windows. -- John Lewis <jayellatntlworlddotcom> from Bournemouth, Dorset, UK. using Debian GNU/Linux and GeneWeb genealogy software

Hello all The following is a transcript of a declaration made by Jeremiah HEDGECOCK in 1838 which I think may be of interest to others on the the list. This transcript has been made from a photocopy of the original declaration which which is held in the Wellington Estate Collection at the Rural History Centre, Reading University this was obtained by Mike HUTCHINS who is also a member of this list. I have capitalised the surnames to make them easier to see. Regards Colin Harris Document Ref Wellington/710 - date 12 May 1838 I Jeremiah Hedgecock of the Parish of Baughurst in the County of Southamptonshire Laborer aged seventy years and upwards do solemnly and sincerely declare That I have known the several Cottages and Gardens mentioned in the annexed paper writing and described as being in the said Parish of Baughurst in the occupation of John KING Joseph SMITH myself the said Jeremiah HEDGECOCK Thomas HEDGECOCK James PRIOR William GUNDRY Peter HAWKINS John BUTLER and William HITCHCOCK for many years past That the whole nine Cottages and Gardens have been in the possession of the Church Officers of Baughurst with the exception of those described as being in the occupation of the said Joseph SMITH and William HITCHCOCK for forty years and upwards that the one in the occupation of the said Joseph SMITH was built about twenty years ago by the Parish Officers of Baughurst on part of the land before attached to the Cottage occupied by the said John KING and held by the Parish Officers for forty years and that the one described and being in the occupation of the said William HITCHCOCK was built by the Parish Officers on land for forty years and upwards in their possession and that the whole of the said hereditaments and premises have for the said period of forty years and upwards been occupied paupers or poor persons under the Parish Officers and I make this Solemn Declaration concientiously believing the same to be true and by virtue of the Provisions of an Act made and passed in the sixth year of the Reign of His late Majesty King William the fourth entitled "An Act to repeal an Act of the present Session of Parliament entitled an Act for the more effectual abolition of Oaths and Affirmations taken and made in various departments of the State and to substitute Declarations in lieu thereof and for the more entire suppression of voluntary and extra judicial Oaths and Affidavits and to make other provisions for the abolition of unnecessary Oaths" The Mark of X Jeremiah HEDGECOCK Declared at Kingsclere in The County of Southampton This twelfth day of May 1838 Before me W. HOLDING A Master extra in Chancery The following is the schedule attached to the above Declaration Description of Property belonging to the Parish of Baughurst in the Union of Kingsclere in the County of Southampton No1 Two Tenements with large Gardens situate at the side of the Turnpike Road leading to Basingstoke in the respective occupations of John KING and Joseph SMITH containing twenty eight poles or thereabouts No2 Two Cottages and very large Gardens situate at Ham? Adjoining the road leading from Baughurst to Kingsclere Common in the respective occupations of Jeremiah HEDGECOCK and Thomas HEDGECOCK containing one rood and two poles or thereabouts No3 Two Cottages and Gardens situate near the Baughurst Turnpike Gate now in the several occupation of James PRIOR and William GUNDRY containing nine poles or thereabouts No4 A Cottage and Garden now in the occupation of Peter HAWKINS situate at the East End of Baughurst Church yard containing twenty two poles or thereabouts No 5 A Cottage and Garden containing thirty poles or threabouts situate at Browning Hill in the occupation of John BUTLER and William HEDGECOCK 12th May 1838 This is the paper writing referred to in the annexed Declaration of Jeremiah Hedgecock Signed W. Holding --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.467 / Virus Database: 266 - Release Date: 01/04/2003

Nice to know what is going on. The Kingsclere Singers are performing at old Burghclere Church on Saturday 12th April at 7.30pm. The gardens of the house next door will also be open from 6.30pm. Proceeds go to the Church restoration fund. Regards Barbara Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk

I found the following household in the 1851 census for Kintbury Village. Thomas Smart is possibly the son of my 5xgreat grandfather Benjamin Smart. I don't know at the moment if Charles Smith is related to my Smarts but thought he might perhaps belong to someone. Schedule no. 21 Thomas Smart Head M 28 Ag. lab. Berks Kintbury Eliza Smart Wife M 29 Berks Kintbury John Lawrence Son-in-law 13 Ag. lab Berks Kintbury Ann Lawrence Dau-in-law 10 Berks Kintbury Thomas Lawrence Son-in-law 5 Scholar Berks Kintbury Charles Smith Visitor M 27 Ag. lab. Hants Kingsclere Catherine Smith Visitor M 24 Ireland Best wishes Debbie Kennett

I was going through the 1861 Berkshire census at Reading Library yesterday looking for my Tidburys, Smarts and Johnsons. I came across a couple of Bridgemans in Thatcham. As there seem to be quite a few people researching this name I made a note of the entries: 1861 census Cold Ash, Thatcham Schedule no. 31 John Bridgeman H M 49 Shepherd Born Berks Aldermaston Lydia Bridgeman Wife M 51 born Berks Crookham 1861 census Cold Ash, Thatcham Schedule no. 39 Charles Bridgeman Lodger U Ag. Lab. born Berks Thatcham He was lodging with the Allen family (there were rather a lot of names in this household and I didn't make a note of any of the others). Most unhelpfully I seem to have omitted to note down Charles's age. If this is of interest to anyone I can probably find that out some other time. Best wishes Researching: TIDBURY Greenham, Ecchinswell, Sydmonton, Gosport, London JOHNSON Kintbury, Berkshire SMART Kintbury and Welford, Berkshire BELLINGER Newbury SAUNDERS Brockenhurst and London CRUWYS anywhere and everywhere CRUSE, BOUNDY, SQUIRE, DILLON, SYMONS, EASTMOND North Devon WIGGINS, RATT(E)Y, TRASK London and Middlesex WO(O)LFENDEN, BODGER, BERRYMAN, WALKER, UNDERWOOD Cambs/Hunts KENNETT All England (any with hunting connections)

On Tue, 8 Apr 2003 21:37:25 +0100 Barbara Mallyon wrote: > Hello John, > > I have just found my 6 x great grandmother, do you know > anything about Sarah. > James TAYLOR married Sarah MAY 16 October 1762 Kingsclere. > Witnesses were Mary ALDRIDGE and Samuel ROLF. I also have that marriage and eight children but nothing further on Sarah or James at present. -- John Lewis <jayellatntlworlddotcom> from Bournemouth, Dorset, UK. using Debian GNU/Linux and GeneWeb genealogy software

Hello John, I have just found my 6 x great grandmother, do you know anything about Sarah. James TAYLOR married Sarah MAY 16 October 1762 Kingsclere. Witnesses were Mary ALDRIDGE and Samuel ROLF. Many thanks for the MAY website, it is very interesting. Regards Barbara Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Lewis" <jayell@ntlworld.com> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 5:06 PM Subject: Re: Kingsclere Parish Register | On Tue, 8 Apr 2003 15:17:35 +0100 | Barbara Mallyon wrote: | | > Surname in the Kingsclere Parish Register that I am researching | > and may be helpful to you. | | > Charles MAY married Ann MARRINER by Banns 13 June 1801 witness | > was George MAY | | I have Charles married to Ann in 1801 and 10 children resulting, | I also have him married a second time to Mary Goddard in 1827. An | Ann May died in 1824 in Kingsclere and was buried at St. Peter, | Brimpton. I don't have any more than this but found the burial on | the May family website mentioned below | | Charles was almost certainly one of the Brimpton May family and | his parents could be Hugh and Jane May. | | I don't have Brimpton registers to check and am waiting eagerly | for the time Berks FHS publish a transcript for this parish as so | many Ashford Hill-ites found spouses there. | | An extensive website for the May family is to be found at | | http://www.mayfamilyhistory.co.uk/index.html. | | It is worth looking at this site even if you don't have May | interests for the fascinating article on Yeoman farmers. | | | -- | John Lewis <jayellatntlworlddotcom> from Bournemouth, Dorset, UK. | using Debian GNU/Linux and GeneWeb genealogy software | | | ============================== | To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: | http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 |

Prompted by another Kingsclere lister, I've obtained a copy of a legal declaration made by Jeremiah HEDGECOCK of Baughurst in May 1838 concerning properties owned by the Parish. The document is from the archives of the (Duke of) Wellington Estate. It mentions and gives brief descriptions of the homes/land occupied by the following: John KING Joseph SMITH Thomas HEDGECOCK (& Jeremiah) James PRIOR William GUNDEY Peter HAWKINS John BUTLER William HITCHCOCK If anyone else on the Kingsclere list is researching these folk and would like a copy of the document, I can help. Regards..... _________________________________________________________________ Overloaded with spam? With MSN 8, you can filter it out http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail&pgmarket=en-gb&XAPID=32&DI=1059

On Tue, 8 Apr 2003 15:17:35 +0100 Barbara Mallyon wrote: > Surname in the Kingsclere Parish Register that I am researching > and may be helpful to you. > Charles MAY married Ann MARRINER by Banns 13 June 1801 witness > was George MAY I have Charles married to Ann in 1801 and 10 children resulting, I also have him married a second time to Mary Goddard in 1827. An Ann May died in 1824 in Kingsclere and was buried at St. Peter, Brimpton. I don't have any more than this but found the burial on the May family website mentioned below Charles was almost certainly one of the Brimpton May family and his parents could be Hugh and Jane May. I don't have Brimpton registers to check and am waiting eagerly for the time Berks FHS publish a transcript for this parish as so many Ashford Hill-ites found spouses there. An extensive website for the May family is to be found at http://www.mayfamilyhistory.co.uk/index.html. It is worth looking at this site even if you don't have May interests for the fascinating article on Yeoman farmers. -- John Lewis <jayellatntlworlddotcom> from Bournemouth, Dorset, UK. using Debian GNU/Linux and GeneWeb genealogy software

Hello All, Surname in the Kingsclere Parish Register that I am researching and may be helpful to you. William BRIDGMAN married by Licence Aimey ALLEN 15 November 1798 Witness were William Brown Leah TAYLOR married John BENNETT by Licence 2 December 1798 Witness Thomas CURTIS Charles MAY married Ann MARRINER by Banns 13 June 1801 witness was George MAY John POCOCK married Hannah MARRINER by Banns witness Ann TAYLOR William TAYLOR married Elizabeth BRIDGMAN by Licence 19 April 1802 Witness was William RUDDLE and Edward TOMLINS William TAYLOR married Elizabeth PALMER by Licence 10 March 1803 by Licence Witness Edward PALMER William LAWRENCE of Aldermaston, Berks and Ann RABBITS 14 March 1805 William TAYLOR alias NICHOLSON and Elizabeth RICE 18 February 18 February 1739 Thomas LAWRENCE married Elizabeth SMITH 16 October 1747 Bapt John son of Thomas & Mary TAYLOR 5 May 1758 Bapt Ann LAURENCE dau of Thomas and Elizabeth 15 Sept 1759 Bapt John son of Thomas and Mary TAYLOR 20 February 1763 Bapt William son John and Elizabeth MAY 20 April 1763 Bapt Thomas son Thomas and Mary TAYLOR 28 January 1749 Bapt John LAWRENCE son Thomas and Elizabeth 26 December 1750 Bapt Sarah daughter John and Sarah TAYLOR 9 November 1751 Bapt Mary daughter of John and Martha TAYLOR 7 October 1752 Bapt Sarah daughter of John and Mary LAWRENCE 8 June 1753 Bapt Betty daughter James and Eleanor TAILOR 23 October 1737 Bapt William TAYLOR at Nicholsons of William and Elizabeth 30 May 1742 Bapt Thomas LAURENCE son of John and Mary 31 July 1745 Bapt Richard TAYLOR alias NICHOLSONS son of William and Betty 15 December 1745 Bapt Betty COLLINS daughter of Jeremiah and Anne 10 August 1745 Bapt Ann MILES daughter of Thomas and Anne 7 June 1745 Regards Barbara Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk

Hello Elizabeth and Barbara Looking at the 1851 census index shows Mary Ann's birthplace as Deane, which in case you don't know is near Overton. HTH Colin Harris On Sunday, April 06, 2003 9:31 AM, Barbara Mallyon wrote: > Hello Elizabeth, > > Mary Ann BRIDGMAN spinster of Etchinswell to James BENDELL bachelor of > Etchinswell 2 August 1830 witnesses were Thomas STOCKER and ?? illegible > looks like ?? SEVARD. > > Could not find Mary Ann's baptism in Kingsclere her baptism, will keep > searching, as I am also interested in the BRIDGMAN family. > > Regards > > Barbara Mallyon > Basingstoke, Hants, UK > BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Elizabeth Adams" <betkimadams@yahoo.co.uk> > To: <BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk> > Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 3:28 PM > Subject: BRIDGEMAN > > > | Hello Barbara, > | Thank you for your help,I am subscribed so I expect > | things will sort themsslves out-eventually! > | My BRIDG(E)MAN connection is via my 2x gt > | grandmother(paternal)Mary Ann BRIDGEMAN. > | She married James BENDEL(L) 2 Aug 1830 at Kingsclere > | and both were "of Ecchinswell" > | According to the 1851 census information for > | Ecchinswell Colin Harris sent me, she was born about > | 1810/12 at Newtown. > | I do not have a baptism for her-yet,have you come > | across her at all?! > | Best Wishes > | Elizabeth > | New Milton > | Hants > | > | __________________________________________________ > | Yahoo! Plus > | For a better Internet experience > | http://www.yahoo.co.uk/btoffer > > ______________________________ > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.467 / Virus Database: 266 - Release Date: 01/04/2003

I normally order all my certificates from the relevant local Register Office. Rather than receiving a poor-quality photocopy of the handwritten entry in the national indexes you get an exact copy of the entry in the original register. It's also much cheaper to purchase certificates this way (currently £7.00) and the service is much quicker. The address to write to for Kingsclere is: The Superintendent Registrar Hampshire North Registration District The Register Office "Goldings" London Road Basingstoke Hampshire RG21 4AN Tel: 01256 3221188 You need to enclose an SAE. The Register Office are very helpful and normally send out certificates by return of post whereas it takes about two or three weeks to receive a certificate from Stockport. The GRO page and folio numbers are of course meaningless to the local register offices but they usually manage to find the entry in the register if you know the year and the quarter in which the event took place. If they can't find the entry for you they will return your cheque. The Kingsclere Registration District covers the following parishes (according to FreeBMD): Ashmansworth, Baughurst, Burghclere, Crux Easton, East Woodhay, Ecchinswell, Ewhurst, Hannington, Highclere, Kingsclere, Litchfield, Newtown (from 1895), Sydmonton, Tadley, Wolverton and Woodcott. Even if you don't know which parish the event took place in they should still be able to find the entry in the register for you. The following Genuki page has a very helpful list of all the English and Welsh register offices and registration districts: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/RegOffice Best wishes Debbie Kennett Wokingham, Berkshire Researching: TIDBURY Greenham, Ecchinswell, Sydmonton, Alverstoke, London JOHNSON and SMART Kintbury, Berkshire BELLINGER Newbury SAUNDERS Brockenhurst and London CRUWYS anywhere and everywhere CRUSE, BOUNDY, SQUIRE, DILLON, SYMONS, EASTMOND North Devon WIGGINS, TRASK, RATT(E)Y London and Middlesex WO(O)LFENDEN, BODGER, BERRYMAN, WALKER, UNDERWOOD Cambs/Hunts KENNETT All England (any with hunting connections)

Hi Mike George Hedgecock Kingsclere Vol 2c Page 337 March quarter 1878. This information will enable you to get a copy of the certificate from Stockport which will give the fathers' names. I am asuming that you live in UK so will find this easy to do. Peter Goff

Hello All, If you are a new researcher to genealogy, these are a few of the guide lines that I use in my research. Average age for marriage base on 20 years old, look around this age. Brides usually get married in their home town or village, then they may go to live where the groom is working after the marriage. First child is usually born within the first year of parents marriage if not before. If you cannot find the baptism in the church where they live, try the church where they got married. If it is at festival time, Easter, Christmas, etc., they may go to the nearest big town to get married. If you have family tree software on your computer, get a system of your own going, put all of the leading names in capital letters, :- JANE REES and JOHN LAWRENCE | Alfred MAURICE married SARAH LAWRENCE | Florence George Percy George Herbert Elizabeth JOHN These names in capital letters make your research much easier, this system works for my spouse Roger as well as myself. These names in capital letter lead you down to the next name, and eventually lead you to your own name, these are your stepping stones, well worth using. If anyone has any more useful tips, please put them on the list. Regards Barbara Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk Listowner

Hello Elizabeth, Mary Ann BRIDGMAN spinster of Etchinswell to James BENDELL bachelor of Etchinswell 2 August 1830 witnesses were Thomas STOCKER and ?? illegible looks like ?? SEVARD. Could not find Mary Ann's baptism in Kingsclere her baptism, will keep searching, as I am also interested in the BRIDGMAN family. Regards Barbara Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elizabeth Adams" <betkimadams@yahoo.co.uk> To: <BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk> Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 3:28 PM Subject: BRIDGEMAN | Hello Barbara, | Thank you for your help,I am subscribed so I expect | things will sort themsslves out-eventually! | My BRIDG(E)MAN connection is via my 2x gt | grandmother(paternal)Mary Ann BRIDGEMAN. | She married James BENDEL(L) 2 Aug 1830 at Kingsclere | and both were "of Ecchinswell" | According to the 1851 census information for | Ecchinswell Colin Harris sent me, she was born about | 1810/12 at Newtown. | I do not have a baptism for her-yet,have you come | across her at all?! | Best Wishes | Elizabeth | New Milton | Hants | | __________________________________________________ | Yahoo! Plus | For a better Internet experience | http://www.yahoo.co.uk/btoffer

Hello Mike, This is what I have found on Kingsclere Woodlands:- Jane HISCOCK age 19 spinster married John FISHER of full age 19 October 1878 witnesses were Elizabeth FISHER and Charles HEDGES Janes father was Ambrose HISCOCK occ. Labourer and John's father is Robert FISHER occ.a Sawyer. There was no marriage for George HEDGECOCK 1878 in either Kingsclere or Woodlands. Regards Barbara Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Hutchins" <ma_hutchins@hotmail.com> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2003 1:13 PM Subject: Marriage look-up request | Could someone with ready access to the Kingsclere or Woodlands records | please look-up the details of this marriage? | | George HEDGECOCK and Jane HISCOCK, registered in the March quarter of 1878. | I'm particularly interested to know the fathers' names. | | Cheers.....Mike |