MILES & MILLS [and a ROFFE & ROFF thrown in!] Researched the Chedworth holdings at the S.O.G. yesterday. They only hold MARRIAGES from 1653 to 1812 - this is in book form Glos. Marriage Registers Part 11 issued by W.P.W.Phillimore in 1897. The period 1813 to 1837 are Transcripts. p. = of the parish of. 7.7.1707 Josiah MILES = Catherine PEACHIE 15.5.1715 William NEWMAN, of RENDCOMB = Susanna MILES 29.9.1716 William MILLS, of RANDWICK = Anne HARDING 1.12.1723 John MILES = Anne PIERLE 17.12.1744 Wm. CLAPTON, of BARNESLEY = Hannah MILES 14.1.1750 Edmund MILES, of SHIPTON = Ann TURK 14.10.1751 Richard GREEN = Jane MILES Entry: 1753 Marriage Act [16 Feb 1692 to 1 Dec 1753] 30.6.1755 Henry AGGE = Anne MILES 8.10.1759 William HARDING = Anne MILES 30.9.1766 Robert HARDING = Diana MILES 6.11.1775 Robert ROFFE, soap boiler, p. North Leach = Sabina ELTOMES, s. [By Lic.] 22.10.1776 William PEARE, blacksmith = Elizabeth ROFF,s. 11.6.1781 Jonathan RYLAND, WINSON, p.BIBURY, Labourer = Anne MILLS, s. 14.12.1784 Caleb WILSON, b. = Elizabeth MILLS, s. 17.1.1799 David TAYLOR, w. = Milly MILLS, s [By Lic.] 14.10.1805 William MILLS = Susan PEARCE - ends 25 December 1812 - 25.2.1824 Joseph MILES = Hannah NURDEN 6.8.1830 John IRELAND = Mary MILES 30.1.1832 John MILLS = Ann TUFFLEY [By Lic.] NOTE: No WITHERS in Index for period 1813 to 1837. For anyone interested I noted that there were many PEACHIE & PEACHEY's throughout the years. Denis

Hello Barbara, Thank you for the information on FREDRICK BREWER, I don't know if this is the one I am looking for as the details I have been given are that he lived at the DELL IN KINGSCLERE most of his life if not all of it, so the FREDRICK BREWER who died in the MARCH quarter of 1956 in KINGSCLERE is more likely to be the one and do you have any details of this burial. I am sorry to be a nuisance Barbara but when you have the time could you please look up the following burial and marriage , BURIAL ALFRED ALDRIDGE died in 1869 -1871 in KINGSCLERE. MARRIAGE THOMAS SMITH to a MYRA ELIZABETH ALDRIDGE in 1887 in KINGSCLERE. Many thanks Charlie Rodgers.

On Mon, 21 Apr 2003 10:30:43 EDT VPickard1@aol.com wrote: > Thanks John for that bit of local knowledge about the distance > between Kingsclere & Basingstoke. Makes me feel easier about gt > gt grandparents marriage in > Basing stoke when both appeared to live in Kingsclere. > Valerie Pickard I forgot to ask my Mum how she actually got to/from Basingstoke but I expect one of the local bus companies ran a special bus on Saturdays so the local youngsters (20 year olds in this particular time-period) could have a night out. -- John Lewis

On Mon, 21 Apr 2003 08:12:06 +0100 Barbara Mallyon wrote: > Basingstoke is the nearest big town to Kingsclere in Hampshire, > many of our ancestors went to live and work in Basingstoke. It was close enough for Kingsclere people to go there of an evening. My mother was working as a Nanny for Dr Pellows in Kingsclere and went to a dance in Basingstoke with a girl friend and met my father there. He was in the Royal Corps of Signals and had travelled there from Larkhill in Wilts where he was based. -- John Lewis --6n4Q1I=.95,fcM:j Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+o/T0LKCNVo91z9cRAiJnAJ4hyradvBWP52V+cmxQExtl4gIUuACfYxvd 9dvKb4wc20Qh4rASXmVUwIY= =5pS5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --6n4Q1I=.95,fcM:j--

Thanks John for that bit of local knowledge about the distance between Kingsclere & Basingstoke. Makes me feel easier about gt gt grandparents marriage in Basing stoke when both appeared to live in Kingsclere. Valerie Pickard

Hello All, Have a look at Alan McGowan website and go to the 1891 Census for Basingstoke. Basingstoke is the nearest big town to Kingsclere in Hampshire, many of our ancestors went to live and work in Basingstoke. http://website.lineone.net/~hantshistory Regards Barbara Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk Listowner

Hi from Auckland NZ Just posting my names from Bramley, Silchester, Tadley, Sherborne St John. Anyone else researching these? Best Wishes Alison alisonglenie@ihug.co.nz

Hello All, Kingsclere Burials as taken from the Parish Register John DRY of Union Lane age 74 years 20 October 1916 Eliza GIRDLER of The Union House age 80 years 9 March 1917 Enos SMITH of Union House age 82 years 23 April 1917 Eliza Anne PRIOR of Swan Street age 79 years 25 April 1917 Ann Brazier COOPER of Wellington Terrace age 36 years 30 August 1917 John APPLETON of The Union House age 78 years 8 October 1917 John BARNES of Newbury Road age 66 years 17 November 1917 Charlotte Ann GARRETT of Swan Street age 85 years 19 November 1917 Ann NIELD of Market Place age 52 years 2 March 1918 Charles Edward WESTCOMBE of Swan Street age 55 years 29 May 1918 What has struck me looking at these burials is that our ancestors are living longer. Regards Barbara Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk

Hi Charlie, Burial of Frederick BREWER of Bucklebury Hill, Berkshire age 73 years 8 February 1958 not 1956 Regards Barbara Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charlie and Monina" <cmrodgers@ntlworld.com> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2003 11:01 PM Subject: KINGSCLERE BURIAL RECORDS | Hello Barbara, | The year for the burial of FREDRICK BREWER is the March qquarter of 1956. | Many thanks, | Charlie. | | | ============================== | To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: | http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 |

Hi all, I am new to the list and this is my first post. Thanks to John Lewis and Barbara Mallyon for your help. My 3x grandfather was Jacob Smith (wheelwright) who lived near Plastow Green and was married to Ann WHEELER in 1821. They had a son James (a carpenter) in 1823 who later lived at Hannington. James married SARAH GARRETT of Hannington.The 1851 census suggests Jacobs dob to be c 1798. My great grandfather George SMITH farmed at Manor farm North Oakley after the TWITCHEN family. Can anybody tell me when the Twitchens gave up the farm? They still have it in the 1891 census. There are links between the Hannington SMITHS and late 19th century SMITHS in Baughurst when SMITH married SMITH. The families mainly moved up the social scale and became farmers and the SMITHS and ALLENS had many of the farms around Hannington, Ibworth, Baughurst, Wotton and Oakley. KENTS farmed around Wotton,Ramsdell and Baughurst. Jacob SMITH is currently one of my brickwalls. If anybody has any infomation that would be super and if I can help with the second half of 19th century ALLENS, SMITHS, or KENTS, only to pleased so to do. William ALLEN from Deane married Ellen ALLEN from Tadley, in the next generation Ellen Gertrude ALLEN married Frederick KENT and then in the following generation Lena Ellen KENT married Thomas SMITH. For anybody interested in the name POVEY, they might like to note there is a POVEYS Farm at Stoney Heath near Ramsdell. My mother was born there in 1924 (Vera Ellen Smith). Best wishes, Nigel Gerdes (Bradford on Avon)

Hello Barbara Can you look up a burial for me to see if it was in Kingsclere Rose Robinson, buried 1918 aged about 29 lived at Pit Hall Farm. Regards Peter Goff

Hello Barbara, The year for the burial of FREDRICK BREWER is the March qquarter of 1956. Many thanks, Charlie.

Hi Charlie, What was the years that Frederick Brewer died. Regards Barbara Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charlie and Monina" <cmrodgers@ntlworld.com> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2003 5:46 PM Subject: kingsclrer burial records | hello Barbara | Could you please look up a burial for me | FREDRICK BREWER died age 69yrsKINGSCLERE MARCH Quarter | details from the gro | thanking you | Charlie | | | ============================== | To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: | http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 | | |

hello Barbara Could you please look up a burial for me FREDRICK BREWER died age 69yrsKINGSCLERE MARCH Quarter details from the gro thanking you Charlie

Hello All, These are the dates for the Census. Please note that the Census was taken for where you slept for the nights of the Census date. 1801 March 10 1811 May 27 1821 May 28 1831 May 30 1841 June 6 1851 March 30 1861 April 7 1871 April 2 1881 April 3 1891 April 5 1901 March 31 1911 April 2 1921 June 19 1931 April 26 The dates before 1841 were only head counts. Regards Barbara Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk

Hello All, If anyone is interested in CD BOOKS you will find the following useful:- ARCHIVE CD BOOKS - A not-for-profit project to reproduce old books on CD for genealogists and family historians, and pay for the restoration of books in record offices, libraries etc. Mailing list : CDBOOKS-L@rootsweb.com (for discussions) Weekly News : CDBOOKS-NEWS-L@rootsweb.com (weekly announcements & news) E-mail : enquiries@archivecdbooks.org Web : http://www.archivecdbooks.org Regards Barbara Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk Listowner

Burials 1811-1866 (all are of Chedworth) Ann MILES September 29th 1823, age 50 years Mary Ann MILES November 19th 1831, age 7 years Ann MILES August 23rd 1833, age 58 years Jane MILES September 30th 1838, age 1 year Matthew MILES July 16th 1846, age 77 years Joseph MILES January 12th 1848, age 47 years John MILLS June 7th 1851, age 77 years George MILES March 13th 1857, age 82 years Anna Maria MILES May 11th 1863, age 2 years Regards Jenny Beaumont Aberdeenshire, Scotland

One of the Chedworth films has arrived and I've been to look at it today. Banns and marriages from 1754 to 1954, burials from 1811-66. I've checked through to 1900 as I didn't see any point in going any further. I'll post the MILES/MILLS entries and see what you can make of them & I'll do the same with the second film when it arrives. There is a high proportion of partners from other parishes (an average of at least one per page in the earlier years), some from Wiltshire, Warwickshire, Berkshire & Glamorgan. I have a little more information on some of the marriages (whether signed or marked, witnesses, fathers, etc). Burials are in a separate message. It's quite likely that the MILLS entries could be MILES - the spelling is very erratic even in the later entries. Banns & marriages Henry AGGE & Anne MILES both of this parish 8th, 15th & 22nd June 1755, m 30th June 1755 William HARDING & Anne MILES both otp 23rd, 30th September & 7th October m 8th October 1759 Joel HOLLAND of parish of Chedworth & Elizabeth MILES of parish of Turk Dean in Gloucestershire 26th January, 2nd & 9th February (1766) Robert HARDING & Diana MILES both otp 14th, 21st & 28th September, m 30th September 1766 William LAURENCE of North Leach, labourer & Susannah MYLES otp spinster by licence 9th June 1768 Daniel HARDING of North Cerney, servant & Anne MILLS otp spinster 30th May, 6th & 13th June 1779 (no marriage) Jonathan RYLAND of Winson, parish of Bibury, labourer & Anne MILLS otp spinster 27th May, 3rd & 10th June 1781, m 11th June 1781 Richard THAYER(?) otp labourer & Frances MILLS of Cirencester, spinster 26th August, 2nd & 9th September NB A certificate granted September 9th 1781 Caleb WILSON otp bachelor & Elizabeth MILLS otp spinster, by licence 14 December 1784 William MILLS & Susannah PEARCE both otp 29th September, 6th & 13th October 1805 (marriage below) David TAYLOR widower otp & Milly MILLS spinster otp, by licence 17th January 1799 William MILLS otp & Susan PEARCE otp, by banns 14th October 1805 Joseph MILES otp bachelor & Hannah NURDEN otp spinster, by banns 25th February 1824 John IRELAND otp bachelor & Mary MILES otp spinster, by banns 6th August 1830 John MILLS otp widower & Ann TUFFLEY (otp crossed through) widow, by licence 13th January 1832 25th December 1848 George DAY, labourer, & Martha MILES both of Chedworth, father Joseph MILES labourer (deceased) 8th January 1859 William MILES, miller of Yanworth(?) Mill, father Joseph MILES labourer (deceased) & Mary WILLIAMS, a minor of Calves Hill, Chedworth 29th May 1871 Giles MILES bachelor labourer of Yohadyfordurg(?), Glamorgan, father Samuel MILES labourer & Caroline PEACHEY of Chedworth (upper end) 28th March 1885 Thomas TOWNSEND, 22 bachelor labourer of Chedworth & Jane MILES, 29 widow of Chedworth, father Charles MANNERS Regards Jenny Beaumont Aberdeenshire, Scotland Researching in Berkshire PEARCE - Kintbury & Hungerford; STEVENS - Sunninghill & Windsor; Hampshire & Oxfordshire: WATTERS/WALTERS - Abingdon, Drayton, Wallingford, Cholsey & Henley areas; MILES - Midgham & Hampstead Norreys, Kingsclere; WARD - Brightwell NEWMAN - Netley & Hound

Hello! This is a repeat of plea for help made to the list some two weeks ago. "On the 1881 census for Kingsclere, Sarah LANGLEY, a married woman, aged 33, born in Longham, Norfolk, is listed as domestic servant in the household of George MILWARD, J.P. (RG11/1266/98/12). I would be interested to learn if Sarah is listed at Kingsclere 1891 - or if anyone knows what may have become of her. Is there no one with access to the 1891 census for Kingsclere who would be prepared help? Stan Langley - West Norfolk (U.K.) Principal Interests: JICKLING, LANGLEY, RICHMOND, WAD(DE)LOW.

Hello All, Hilton Hotels have their Winter Sale on until the end of the month, Roger and I are taking advantage of this offer. We are off to the Hilton Maidstone, so that we can visit the Centre for Kentish Studies at County Hall, Maidstone for our research. What is so special about this offer by Hilton Hotels, the Johnson Press Offer is for all over England, Scotland, Wales and Ireland:- 2 nights Bed and Breakfast and dinner included on the first nights stay, all for £59.50, some of the hotels have the same offer at a cheaper price. This offer is only on until the end of the month, for every day of the week. If you are interested phone 0800-856-8001 (freephone). Basingstoke Hilton and Newbury Hilton, the charge for this offer is £54.50. There is no Hilton Hotel in Winchester listed. To visit theWinchester Record Office, you will need your car it only takes 20 minutes from Basingstoke and is easy to find. Please book a microfiche reader also you can book a car space at the same time. Regards Barbara Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk Listowner