Hi Debbie, This is the entry in the Kingsclere Baptisms. Walter son of Jeremiah and Martha TIDBURY of Wandsworth, Surrey sojourning at North Street, Kingclere. Occupation labourer. Date Monday the Whitsun week June 9 1862 There was no Baptism listed around the above date, for Walter TIDBURY age 27 father Frederick TIDBURY Labourer Regards Barbara Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: DEBBIEKENNETT@aol.com To: jayell@ntlworld.com Cc: BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 10:20 PM Subject: Walter Tidbury John It now appears that the Walter Tidbury who married Eliza Druce was not after all the one who was baptised in Kingsclere in 1862 to Jeremiah and Martha. There must have been two Walters born around the same time. I received the following e-mail today from the other Tidbury researcher: "I have recently received the Certified Copy of an Entry of marriage for Walter and Eliza. September 17th 1889 Holy Trinity Church Lane End Walter Tidbury age 27 father Frederick Tidbury Labourer Eliza Druce age 20 father George Druce Witnesses James Goodchild & Ellen Hancock It looks like I'm going to have to do more digging!" Best wishes Debbie

Hello Ian I've also been tracing Rabbits. My link is through my GGM Alice Jane Rabbits, eldest dau. of Josiah (aka Joseph) and Dorcas (nee H*cock). I beleive Josiah was second eldest son of Robert and Eliza and that Robert was the third child of Joseph and Louisa (nee Thatcher) which is back to the end-C18th. Do you link in with any of these families, or what is your lineage? Regards.......Mike Researching: In Hants/Berks: HUTCHINS, RABBITS, GODDON/GODWIN, HISCOCK/HITCHCOCK/HEDGECOCK In Jersey/Devon: LE BRETON ----Original Message Follows---- From: IanGDurham@aol.com To: ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: HOCKLEY + RABBITTS/RABBAT Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 09:22:22 EDT Hello List, Thanks to Carol and John for their replies, again ! All of the information sent to me has been filed away for future reference. I was trying to find out if James HOCKLEY was born at Ham in Wiltshire in 1781 or 1791. Are there fiche or transcripts available for the 1851 census, or is there just the index ? I have recently received a gedcom tracing the ROBERTs of Overton back to John RABBATT born 1590 at Kingsclere. Are there any other RABB*T researchers on the list ? Thanks again, Ian in France ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 _________________________________________________________________ Find a cheaper internet access deal - choose one to suit you. http://www.msn.co.uk/internetaccess

Barbara If you have a chance could you possibly have a look at your Kingsclere fiches and see if you can find a baptism for Walter Tidbury, son of Jeremiah and Martha. I have been told that he was christened on 9th June 1862 at Kingsclere. I would also be interested to know if there are any further baptisms for children of Jeremiah and Martha in the registers. It appears that Walter Tidbury married Eliza DRUCE in the September quarter of 1889 and by 1891 they were living in Upper North Dean, Bucks. Jeremiah Tidbury was born about 1826 in New Brentford, Middlesex, and was the son of Jeremiah Tidbury and Ann MAJOR who married in Thatcham on 11th July 1821. Many thanks Debbie Kennett

I would be grateful if anyone has any details of people with the surname Challis living in the Kingsclere and surrounding area. Thanks to John Lewis I have discovered that my ancestor Thomas Challis was living in Burghclere in 1851 aged about 42 married to Mary from Highclere. So far I have been unable to trace back any further. Any help would be appreciated. Regards Ron Challis

On Tue, 01 Jul 2003 08:33:37 -0600 Joy wrote: > I am looking for the parents/siblings of John HAYWARD. Any information would > be appreciated. > > John HAYWARD, born in Kingsclere, Hants in about 1858. John baptised St. Mary, Kingsclere 10 Feb 1858. Parents abode Kingsclere Dell. He seems to be the youngest son of John & Hannah ?. Other children were Isaac 1840 Joseph ca 1843 Emily ca 1845 William ca 1847 Walter ca 1848 Ruth 1850 James ca 1855 John was a son of Thomas and Patmos ? who had Hannah ca 1797 William ca 1800 Jacob ca 1803 Mary Ann ca 1805 John ca 1806 Charles ca 1809 > He moved to Cobham, Surrey, England married and had 3 children, Albert John > HAYWARD, born 1884, Alice Kate HAYWARD, born 1886 and Ada Florence HAYWARD > born 1890. > > I believe he married a woman by the name of Mary from Wantage, Berks. I have > found a marriage that maybe theirs but is as yet unconfirmed. I cannot help you with his marriage. Nor do I as yet have details of John's parents or grandparents marriages. -- JohnLewis <jayellatntlworlddotcom> from Bournemouth, Dorset, UK. using Debian GNU/Linux and GeneWeb genealogy software

I am looking for the parents/siblings of John HAYWARD. Any information would be appreciated. John HAYWARD, born in Kingsclere, Hants in about 1858. He moved to Cobham, Surrey, England married and had 3 children, Albert John HAYWARD, born 1884, Alice Kate HAYWARD, born 1886 and Ada Florence HAYWARD born 1890. I believe he married a woman by the name of Mary from Wantage, Berks. I have found a marriage that maybe theirs but is as yet unconfirmed. John HAYWARD Mary Charlotte ROWSE married at Epsom, Surrey, England in the second quarter of 1883 By 1881 John, 22, still single, was living in Leatherhead, Surrey, England with the WALES family as a lodger, and was an unemployed farm labourer. Thank you Joy British Columbia, Canada

Hello John & List, I have ordered the relevant fiche from the WSRO and should receive them in two weeks time. Thanks, Ian

On Thu, 26 Jun 2003 04:37:28 EDT IanGDurham@aol.com wrote: > In the 1851 census for Kingsclere Hampshire there is a James HOCKLEY, born at > Ham in Wiltshire, aged 59, giving a date of birth of c 1792. > > The BVRI v2 has a baptism for James HOCKLEY in Ham in 1781/2, but this > doesn't give his parents' names. I just had a look at the IGI for Ham (batch no C153081) and there is only one Hockley entry which seems a little odd. Looking at the map Ham is just to the north of the Ridgeway (Wayfarers Walk on modern maps) which also runs just to the south of Kingsclere so not impossible for his family to have walked there. The only reason I can think for him being baptised at Ham is that he was the first child of the marriage and his Mother came from Ham so he was taken 'home' (or even born at her parents home) for his baptism, subsequent children being baptised in Kingsclere (or where they were actually living). There are plenty of baptisms for Ham but can't find any marriages on the IGI so cannot look for a marriage of a Hockley in Ham. I tried batch numbers like P153081, M153081. I also tried Hugh Wallis IGI Batch Number site but Ham isn't listed and I cannot see that batch number listed with other parishes. Soc. Gen. has Baptism & Marriage registers for Ham so they do exist. It is going to need someone to visit Wilts RO to check the marriage registers. Any volunteers out there? :-) -- John Lewis <jayellatntlworlddotcom> from Bournemouth, Dorset, UK. using Debian GNU/Linux and GeneWeb genealogy software

Hi All, I have checked the fiche for All Saints Burghclere as well as Newtown (Burghclere) and could not find the burial for Patience PALMER in 1852. Kind Regards, Margaret Moon, N.S.W., Australia. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Mallyon" <BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 5:20 PM Subject: Re: KINGSCLERE BURIAL RECORDS > Hello Charlie and Monina, > > I have looked at Kingsclere and Kingsclere Woodlands there is no Burial > record for Patience PALMER 1852, she must be buried in one of the villages > in the Parish of Kingsclere. Can anyone else please help. > > Regards > > Barbara Mallyon > Basingstoke, Hants, UK > BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Charlie and Monina" <cmrodgers@ntlworld.com> > To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 8:12 PM > Subject: KINGSCLERE BURIAL RECORDS > > > | Hello Barbara, > | When you have the time Barbara would you look up a burial record for me, > the > | name is PATIENCE PALMER died in the JUNE quarter of 1852 in KINGSCLERE, > this > | information was taken from the GRO index. > | Many thanks, > | CHARLIE RODGERS > | > | > | ============================== > | To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, go to: > | http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > | > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Hi All, I have checked the fiche for All Saints Burghclere as well as the records for Newtown (Burghclere) and have not been able to find either a burial for Hanson and Jane FORD in 1894 or a marriage for them between 1860 - 1871 either. Kind Regards, Margaret, N.S.W., Australia. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Mallyon" <BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2003 5:47 PM Subject: Fw: [BRK] FORD > Hello All, > > Can anyone please help Judy. > > Regards > > Barbara Mallyon > Basingstoke, Hants, UK > BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "jkpalmer" <jkpalmer@dodo.com.au> > > Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2003 12:57 AM > Subject: [BRK] FORD > > > | Can anyone help me re these deaths. > | Hanson FORD died 8 July 1894 Burghfield > | Jane FORD died 26 March 1894 Burghfield > | Also any details of their marriage 1861-1865 approximately. > | I think Jane was married before to TULL....she was born in Tadley, > | Hampshire. > | Wondering if any info out there regarding their parents names in the > | death register? > | Thanks if you can help. > | Judy > | jkpalmer@dodo.com.au > | > | > | ==== BERKSHIRE Mailing List ==== > | Berkshire Family History Society www.berksfhs.org.uk > | Oxfordshire Family History Society www.ofhs.org.uk > | (Both societies cover present North Berkshire) > | > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

On Sat, 28 Jun 2003 11:35:50 +0100 Colin Harris wrote: > With all the recent messages about HOCKLEY recently I had a quick look in > my records for any references to the name and found a Mary Ann HOCKLEY (b. > 1880 Isleworth, Middlesex) who married Samuel George DYCKHOFF on 3 June > 1900 in Isleworth (Samuel is one of my maternal G. Grandmother's brothers). > > Until now I had not paid too much attention to Mary Ann and it was only > when I had a look for her and her family on the 1881 census that I > discovered her father Anthony gives his birthplace as Kingsclere in 1850 > and her mother Fanny gives what I believe to be a mis-transcription of > Ecchinswell in 1854. > > Checking on FreeBMD I find a marriage for an Anthony HOCKLEY to Fanny > HUSSEY in the Sept Qtr 1874 in Kinsclere RD which would fit with the birth > of their eldest child. If this marriage took place in Ecchinswell (as seems likely - see below) I am unable to check as the register is still in the parish. I have a Fanny Hussey bapt. 11 Jan 1852 at St. Lawrence Ecchinswell to Willima & Mary. William Hussey married Mary Somersby about 1836 as first child I have recorded was born about Dec 1837 in Ecchinswell. There were 6 children born before Fanny and 2 after. William died at The Quarry, Ecchinswell in 1890 and was buried at St. Lawrence. Mary died in 1901 and was also buried at St. Lawrence. Fanny had a (baseborn) child, Alice Hussey, bapt. 6 Sep 1868 at St. Lawrence, Ecchinswell. > Can anyone confirm who Anthony and Fanny's parents were? I think Anthony is > probably the one who appears on the IGI as baptised at St Mary's, > Kingsclere on 12 July 1846, son of Thomas and Elizabeth, and that his date > of birth in the census is incorrect. I don't have much on Hockley but do have an Anthony bapt. at St. Mary on 12 July 1846 to Thomas & Elizabeth, Thomas Hockley married Elizabeth Tucker at St. Mary, Kingsclere on 2 Jan 1833 and I have 5 children born prior to Anthony. -- John Lewis <jayellatntlworlddotcom> from Bournemouth, Dorset, UK. using Debian GNU/Linux and GeneWeb genealogy software

Hello all With all the recent messages about HOCKLEY recently I had a quick look in my records for any references to the name and found a Mary Ann HOCKLEY (b. 1880 Isleworth, Middlesex) who married Samuel George DYCKHOFF on 3 June 1900 in Isleworth (Samuel is one of my maternal G. Grandmother's brothers). Until now I had not paid too much attention to Mary Ann and it was only when I had a look for her and her family on the 1881 census that I discovered her father Anthony gives his birthplace as Kingsclere in 1850 and her mother Fanny gives what I believe to be a mis-transcription of Ecchinswell in 1854. Checking on FreeBMD I find a marriage for an Anthony HOCKLEY to Fanny HUSSEY in the Sept Qtr 1874 in Kinsclere RD which would fit with the birth of their eldest child. Can anyone confirm who Anthony and Fanny's parents were? I think Anthony is probably the one who appears on the IGI as baptised at St Mary's, Kingsclere on 12 July 1846, son of Thomas and Elizabeth, and that his date of birth in the census is incorrect. TIA Colin Harris --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.493 / Virus Database: 292 - Release Date: 25/06/2003

On Fri, 27 Jun 2003 09:22:22 EDT IanGDurham@aol.com wrote: > Are there fiche or transcripts available for the 1851 census, or is there > just the index ? The full set of census fiche are available. I think at least one person on the list has Kingsclere, possibly other parishes. > I have recently received a gedcom tracing the ROBERTs of Overton back to John > RABBATT born 1590 at Kingsclere. > > Are there any other RABB*T researchers on the list ? I should be but it is one family I haven't done much about so far. John Rabbits born about 1700 was my 7xgt-grandfather. He married Anna Powny on 20 Sep 1725 at St. Mary, Kingsclere and their daughter Ann married John Foster (senior), also at St. Mary on 30 Aug 1769. There are probably other children but I haven't looked for them as yet. I will have a look later to see if I can see the earlier John in the parish register fiche, these early ones are not easy to read with lots of un-decipherable sections. I would be interested in seeing that gedcom if you can send me a copy. -- John Lewis <jayellatntlworlddotcom> from Bournemouth, Dorset, UK. using Debian GNU/Linux and GeneWeb genealogy software

Hello List, Thanks to Carol and John for their replies, again ! All of the information sent to me has been filed away for future reference. I was trying to find out if James HOCKLEY was born at Ham in Wiltshire in 1781 or 1791. Are there fiche or transcripts available for the 1851 census, or is there just the index ? I have recently received a gedcom tracing the ROBERTs of Overton back to John RABBATT born 1590 at Kingsclere. Are there any other RABB*T researchers on the list ? Thanks again, Ian in France

Hi Ian, In Italic are items I found on IGI and checked in the BT's. Kingsclere Bishops Transcripts and IGI have JAMES HOCKLEY Spouse: ELIZABETH LEDSTER Family Marriage: 20 MAR 1786 Kingsclere, Hampshire, England M014641 1780 - 1837 0973052 IT 1 Film 0883846 Father: James Hockley, Mother: Elizabeth 1. JAMES HOCKLEY - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 22 MAY 1790 Kingsclere, Hampshire, England 2. HANNAH HOCKLEY - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 13 AUG 1786 Kingsclere, Hampshire, England Could this be the birth of your James's father? 12. JAMES HOCKLEY - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 08 JAN 1759 Alton, Hampshire, England Born to John and Ann Hockley. There is another couple having children........ Father: John Hockley, Mother: Hannah Can't find John and Hannah's marriage. 7. MARY HOCKLEY - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 15 MAY 1796 Kingsclere, Hampshire, England 8. ELIZABETH HOCKLEY - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 04 MAY 1800 Kingsclere, Hampshire, England 9. ISAAC HOCKLEY - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 10 JAN 1790 Kingsclere, Hampshire, England 10. THOMAS HOCKLEY - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 04 NOV 1786 Kingsclere, Hampshire, England 11. HANNAH HOCKLEY - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 02 DEC 1792 Kingsclere, Hampshire, England Hope this helps, Regards, Carol ----- Original Message ----- From: <IanGDurham@aol.com> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 9:37 AM Subject: James HOCKLEY - 1851 census > Hello List, > > In the 1851 census for Kingsclere Hampshire there is a James HOCKLEY, born at > Ham in Wiltshire, aged 59, giving a date of birth of c 1792. > > The BVRI v2 has a baptism for James HOCKLEY in Ham in 1781/2, but this > doesn't give his parents' names. > > I have used the HGS index to the 1851 census to get this information. > > Does anyone have access to fiche or a transcription of the census ? > > I am hoping that there is an error in one or other of the transcriptions. > > Thanks in advance, Ian in France > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.490 / Virus Database: 289 - Release Date: 16/06/03

On Thu, 26 Jun 2003 08:20:30 +0100 Barbara Mallyon wrote: > Hello Charlie and Monina, > > I have looked at Kingsclere and Kingsclere Woodlands there is no Burial > record for Patience PALMER 1852, she must be buried in one of the villages > in the Parish of Kingsclere. Can anyone else please help. Not buried Ecchinswell either. There is a Patience Palmer age 35 born Sherbourne listed in the 1851 census index. She could have been buried in Sherbourne but the death recorded at Kingsclere Register Office. -- John Lewis <jayellatntlworlddotcom> from Bournemouth, Dorset, UK. using Debian GNU/Linux and GeneWeb genealogy software

On Thu, 26 Jun 2003 04:37:28 EDT IanGDurham@aol.com wrote: > In the 1851 census for Kingsclere Hampshire there is a James HOCKLEY, born at > Ham in Wiltshire, aged 59, giving a date of birth of c 1792. > > The BVRI v2 has a baptism for James HOCKLEY in Ham in 1781/2, but this > doesn't give his parents' names. I cannot help you with parents for James but there was a John Hockley with wife Hannah baptising children in Kingsclere around the date of James baptism. the children were: Thomas ca 1786-1840 married 1810 Mary North ca 1788-1841 Isaac ca 1790-1840 married 1818 Charlotte Stroud 1795 Hannah ca 1792 Mary ca 1796 & ? ? Elizabeth ca 1800 I am guessing the James age 59 in 1851 was the one who married Elizabeth Eatwell at St. Mary in 1832. He was a widower when he married. Witnesses were Thomas and Mary Hockley. So was he another of John & Hannah's children? To confuse the issue there was another James & Elizabeth who had two children born in Ecchinswell. This James married Elizabeth Ledster at St. Mary in 1786 and had Hannah ca 1786 and James ca 1790, both bapt. at St. Mary. -- John Lewis <jayellatntlworlddotcom> from Bournemouth, Dorset, UK. using Debian GNU/Linux and GeneWeb genealogy software

Hello Charlie and Monina, I have looked at Kingsclere and Kingsclere Woodlands there is no Burial record for Patience PALMER 1852, she must be buried in one of the villages in the Parish of Kingsclere. Can anyone else please help. Regards Barbara Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charlie and Monina" <cmrodgers@ntlworld.com> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 8:12 PM Subject: KINGSCLERE BURIAL RECORDS | Hello Barbara, | When you have the time Barbara would you look up a burial record for me, the | name is PATIENCE PALMER died in the JUNE quarter of 1852 in KINGSCLERE, this | information was taken from the GRO index. | Many thanks, | CHARLIE RODGERS | | | ============================== | To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: | http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 |

Dear List, Just a note to say that the following names appear on the National Records Office Australia site, as having been born in Kingsclere. Site is http://www.naa.gov.au/The_Collection/recordsearch.html. I searched on Kingsclere WALLER JOHN WILLIAM ASHLEY : Date of birth - 17 Jan 1892 : Place of birth - KINGSCLERE ENGLAND : Place of enlistment - Unknown : Next of Kin - JESSIE, World War 2 service record DUTTON JOHN : Service Number - V404135 : Date of birth - 08 Sep 1919 : Place of birth - KINGSCLERE ENGLAND : Place of enlistment - YARRAVILLE VIC : Next of Kin - DUTTON JOHN World War 2 Service Record Barnes Basil Edward : SERN 191 : POB Kingsclere England : POE Sydney NSW : NOK M Barnes Constance, World War 1 Service Record With the last one, if you are interested you can order a digital copy to be put on the site (takes about 8 weeks). Hope this is of interest to somebody Carol Dale

Hello List, In the 1851 census for Kingsclere Hampshire there is a James HOCKLEY, born at Ham in Wiltshire, aged 59, giving a date of birth of c 1792. The BVRI v2 has a baptism for James HOCKLEY in Ham in 1781/2, but this doesn't give his parents' names. I have used the HGS index to the 1851 census to get this information. Does anyone have access to fiche or a transcription of the census ? I am hoping that there is an error in one or other of the transcriptions. Thanks in advance, Ian in France