On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 07:46:43 +0100 Colin Harris wrote: > Hello all > > Having spent sometime trying to sort out the HISCOCK/HITCHCOCK/HEDGECOCK > families, one of the loose ends I was left with was William HITCHCOCK who > married Charlotte SMITH at St Mary's, Kingsclere 19th October 1840. > > Could SKS please provide the full register entry for this marriage please I have 19 October 1840 at St. Mary. register entry 67. Witnesses: William Smith & Sylvia Piper. William's father also William, Charlotte's was George. Both of Exelsford I have William Smith, married Sylvia Piper on 27 Feb 1841 also at St. Mary and am assuming Charlotte & William were siblings. > They had three children baptised at St Mary's > > John 1838 > George 1841 > Sarah 1843 Thanks for those as I didn't have them listed. > and a fourth Dorcas who I believe was baptised at St Paul's, Woodlands in > 1846. Bapt. St. Paul on 1 Nov 1846, entry no. 33. She married Josiah (or Joseph) Rabbitts (later Roberts) in 1864and had lots of kids. > These baptisms all seem to use the name HEDGECOCK. I am recording them all as Hiscock as the names seem interchangable in the registers. > The 1851 census index indicates that John, George, Sarah and Dorcas > (appears as Darkness!) are all in the household of Charles HEDGECOCK and > his wife Jane (nee APPLEFORD), Charles was born abt 1810 in Tadley. > > I also have a note of two births from the IGI to a William and Ann > HISCOCK/HEDGECOCK an Ann HEDGECOCK 7th March 1833 and a John HISCOCK 19th > August 1835, both give Kingsclere as birthplace but I don't have baptism > dates to confirm the validity of these two. I don't have these two children recorded but the Ann Hiscock with father William who married Charles Waite could be her. Checking the register gives Ann born 7 Mar, bapt 16th June 1833 to William & Ann Hedgecock of Ecchinswell (entry 214). John born 19 Aug bapt. 13 Mar 1836to William & Ann Hiscock of Ecchinswell (entry 519) > My suspicions are: > > 1) That the William married to Ann later married Charlotte SMITH, perhaps > following the death of Ann possibly in childbirth. William was recorded as a Bachelor at marriage to Charlotte > > 2) William died between 1848 and 1851, and Charlotte was working away when > the census was taken, given the number of variations on this surname she > could well be in Kingsclere in 1851 but is just not identifiable. > 3) Charles HEDGECOCK was William's brother, and took in Charlotte and the > children following the death of William. Charles was the son of Jeremiah > and Sarah HISCOCK/HEDGECOCK baptised at Tadley 8th July 1810. > > If anyone can throw any light on this complicated family I would be most > grateful. I'll do some more checking later, this is a family I'd like to get sorted as well since one of my Mother's cousins married John James Hiscock at Ecchinswell about 1824 and Hiscocks also married into the Foster & Fisher families -- John Lewis <jayellatntlworlddotcom> from Bournemouth, Dorset, UK. using Debian GNU/Linux and GeneWeb genealogy software

Hello all Having spent sometime trying to sort out the HISCOCK/HITCHCOCK/HEDGECOCK families, one of the loose ends I was left with was William HITCHCOCK who married Charlotte SMITH at St Mary's, Kingsclere 19th October 1840. Could SKS please provide the full register entry for this marriage please They had three children baptised at St Mary's John 1838 George 1841 Sarah 1843 and a fourth Dorcas who I believe was baptised at St Paul's, Woodlands in 1846. These baptisms all seem to use the name HEDGECOCK. The 1851 census index indicates that John, George, Sarah and Dorcas (appears as Darkness!) are all in the household of Charles HEDGECOCK and his wife Jane (nee APPLEFORD), Charles was born abt 1810 in Tadley. I also have a note of two births from the IGI to a William and Ann HISCOCK/HEDGECOCK an Ann HEDGECOCK 7th March 1833 and a John HISCOCK 19th August 1835, both give Kingsclere as birthplace but I don't have baptism dates to confirm the validity of these two. My suspicions are: 1) That the William married to Ann later married Charlotte SMITH, perhaps following the death of Ann possibly in childbirth. 2) William died between 1848 and 1851, and Charlotte was working away when the census was taken, given the number of variations on this surname she could well be in Kingsclere in 1851 but is just not identifiable. 3) Charles HEDGECOCK was William's brother, and took in Charlotte and the children following the death of William. Charles was the son of Jeremiah and Sarah HISCOCK/HEDGECOCK baptised at Tadley 8th July 1810. If anyone can throw any light on this complicated family I would be most grateful. Regards Colin Harris On Wednesday, July 23, 2003 10:46 AM, John Lewis wrote: > On Wed, 23 Jul 2003 08:10:49 +0100 > Barbara Mallyon wrote: > > > Hi Frank, I have found this marriage:- > > > > Charles WAITE full age, bachelor, gardener of Kingsclere. Father George > > WAITE, Labourer > > to Ann HISCOCK full age, spinster of Kingsclere. Father William HISCOCK, > > labourer. > > Therein lies the problem - there is no suitable William or Ann Hiscock > (Hedgecock or Hitchcock) nor any Waite in Kingsclere in 1851 or in surrounding > parishes listed in the HGS 1851 Index vols 9 & 10. > > Nor can I find Charles & Ann Waite in the 1881 census (Greater London West CD) > other than a Charles age 42 born Bradfield, builder living in Reading. His age > would make him too young to be married in 1857 and still be described as of > full age. No birth place is given for this Ann. > > The National Index isn't any real help either (not that I am much of an expert > at using the 1881 census disks) > > > Witnesses are Thomas CANNINGS and Charlotte HISCOCK (own handwriting) > > 23 July 1857 > > These don't appear in Kingsclere in 1851 either! > > -- > John Lewis <jayellatntlworlddotcom> from Bournemouth, Dorset, UK. > using Debian GNU/Linux and GeneWeb genealogy software > > ______________________________ > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.498 / Virus Database: 297 - Release Date: 08/07/2003

Hi Glen, Debbie, John and All, The marriage of Charles TROUGHTON full age widower labourer of Kingsclere. Father Samuel TROUGHTON Labourer. To Rose Ann FOSTER age 20 spinster of Kingsclere father John FOSTER Labourer Witnesses are Rebecca GIRDLER and Robert BEARE Marriage Elizabeth ANDREWS age 19 spinster of Ashford Hill. Father Thomas ANDREWS. Keeper of the Ship ? To Timothy DARLING full age bachelor Domestic Servant of Ashford Hill, Father Benjamin DARLING Labourer. Witnesses are Charlotte ANDREWS and Jospeh ?(illegible own hand writing) Regards Barbara Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Mallyon" <BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 9:01 AM Subject: TROUGHTON, ANDREWS, SEWARD, HARDING | | ----- Original Message ----- | From: "Mattingley Glenn" <g.mattingley@bssgroup.com> | To: "'Barbara Mallyon'" <BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk> | Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 8:13 AM | Subject: RE: subscribe | | | | Hello All, | | | | from the Kingsclere area I am researching the following surnames: | | | | TROUGHTON - Martha bap.2.2.1842 married Jeremiah TIDBURY | | ANDREWS - Minnie married John TROUGHTON 10.10.1839 | | SEWARD - Martha married Samuel TROUGHTON 19.5.1796 | | HARDING - Mary b. ca 1743 d.1822 married Joseph SEWARD and were the | parents | | of Martha (above) | | | | The rest of the family comes from all over, the only resources I have | apart | | from the internet are the 1891 census from Buckinghamshire and the 1851 | | census from Devon, Norfolk & Warwickshire. The Kingsclere branch is from | my | | mother's side with Walter TIDBURY (son of Jeremiah & Martha) being my GG | | Grandfather. Other branches include west & south London, Middlesex, | | Stratford upon Avon, Berkhamsted and Wycombe Bucks. Occupations: | Brickyard & | | Agricultural Labourers, Bargees, Alehouse Keepers and Domestic Servants | | (quite a common lot really). | | | | Regards | | | | Glenn Mattingley MIEX | | Export Sales | | BSS Group PLC | | Ph: 00 44 (0) 116 256 7084 | | Fx: 00 44 (0) 116 256 7096 | | | | | ============================== | To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: | http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 |

On Wed, 23 Jul 2003 09:11:23 EDT DEBBIEKENNETT@aol.com wrote: > There is another Andrews marriage which I don't think you have on your > website. William Tidbury born about 1744 was the father of my David Tidbury > and Glenn's Jeremiah Tidbury senior. He married Charlotte Andrews. She was > from Greenham so the Andrews may well be another family who went backwards > and forwards across the Hants/Berks border. I haven't looked at the Andrews > side at all at the moment but I suppose it's possible that Minnie Andrews > could well be related to Charlotte. Here's the full entry for the banns and > marriage of William and Charlotte from the Thatcham Parish Registers: Thanks Debbie, you had given me date of marriage but not Charlotte's maiden name. I have now amended the Tidbury web page to include this. I have now found a few Andrews baptisms in Kignsclere but in the early 1700s so too early as yet to connect to anything I have previously recorded. > [Edw. Winbolt was a witness to many of the marriages around this time. He was > > probably one of the few people in the parish who could read and write so was > called upon to act as a witness whenever anyone married. I don't know who > John Stroud is.] This happened in Kingsclere too, Richd Rode father & son, witnessesed many marriages as did a Fulker and a Seward who were both parish clerks I think. John Stroud was possibly a close friend and maybe 'best man' so the obvious person to witness if there were no siblings present. -- John Lewis <jayellatntlworlddotcom> from Bournemouth, Dorset, UK. using Debian GNU/Linux and GeneWeb genealogy software

On Wed, 23 Jul 2003 09:01:44 +0100 Barbara Mallyon wrote: > Subject: RE: subscribe > | Hello All, > | from the Kingsclere area I am researching the following surnames: > | TROUGHTON - Martha bap.2.2.1842 married Jeremiah TIDBURY I am currently trying to find the links between Anthony * Elizabeth Troughton who married ca 1702 and the Anthony Troughton who married Elizabeth Wheeler in October 1764. I have descendants of this Anthony to his great-granchildren. > | ANDREWS - Minnie married John TROUGHTON 10.10.1839 I have only 8 different Andrews marriages at present with nothing to link them. > | SEWARD - Martha married Samuel TROUGHTON 19.5.1796 I have a Seward tree going back to Thomas & Bridget (Troughton) grandparents of Martha. There are several lines of Seward in Kingsclere and I do not know if they all connect. Bridget's (or Brigida) parents were the 1702 Anthony & Elizabeth, she was baptised on 23 Feb 1704/5. > | HARDING - Mary b. ca 1743 d.1822 married Joseph SEWARD and were the > | parents of Martha (above) I have nothing so far on Mary, not even a date of birth > | census from Devon, Norfolk & Warwickshire. The Kingsclere branch is from > | my mother's side with Walter TIDBURY (son of Jeremiah & Martha) being my GG A Tidbury tree can be found on the "Kingsclere Families" website but this doesn't have many of the 'foreign' Tidburys in it ;-( -- John Lewis <jayellatntlworlddotcom> from Bournemouth, Dorset, UK. using Debian GNU/Linux and GeneWeb genealogy software

On Wed, 23 Jul 2003 08:10:49 +0100 Barbara Mallyon wrote: > Hi Frank, I have found this marriage:- > > Charles WAITE full age, bachelor, gardener of Kingsclere. Father George > WAITE, Labourer > to Ann HISCOCK full age, spinster of Kingsclere. Father William HISCOCK, > labourer. Therein lies the problem - there is no suitable William or Ann Hiscock (Hedgecock or Hitchcock) nor any Waite in Kingsclere in 1851 or in surrounding parishes listed in the HGS 1851 Index vols 9 & 10. Nor can I find Charles & Ann Waite in the 1881 census (Greater London West CD) other than a Charles age 42 born Bradfield, builder living in Reading. His age would make him too young to be married in 1857 and still be described as of full age. No birth place is given for this Ann. The National Index isn't any real help either (not that I am much of an expert at using the 1881 census disks) > Witnesses are Thomas CANNINGS and Charlotte HISCOCK (own handwriting) > 23 July 1857 These don't appear in Kingsclere in 1851 either! -- John Lewis <jayellatntlworlddotcom> from Bournemouth, Dorset, UK. using Debian GNU/Linux and GeneWeb genealogy software

Hi John and Carol, I have almost all the fiche for Burghclere (at least all of the older ones) I will do the look ups over the weekend and get back to you with what I find. All the best, Margaret, NSW, Australia. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Lewis" <jayell@ntlworld.com> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 9:18 PM Subject: Burghclere Parish Register Lookups > I have lost track of who has what in terms of fiche but I'd like a lookup in > Burghclere marriages and baptisms please. > > I'm looking for the marriage of James Holmes to an Esther around 1861. The 1881 > census has him living at Foscot Lane, Wolverton with wife Esther age 40 born > Burclere, dau Sarah age 19 born Burclere and other children born Itchinswell. I > have found baptisms for all the Ecchinswell ones so they are no problem. > > I am also looking for baptisms in Burghclere for Richard and Emily Holmes. They > are recorded in the 1851 Thatcham census with Richard born 1845 Kingsclere and > Emily born 1848 Burghclere but there is no baptism of Richard to William & Mary > Ann Holmes in Kingsclere so possibly he too was baptised in Burghclere. William > & Mary Ann Woodhouse married at St. Paul Woodlands in 1848. Subsequent children > were born in Thatcham or Crookham according to 51/81 censuses. > > Carol Dolton would also like a lookup for any Dolton baptisms around 1816, in > particular a John Dolton who was living in East Woodhay in 1851 and who said he > was born Burghclere. He married a Sarah Jarvis about about 1840 according to > FreeBMD in Kingsclere Reg. Dist. Was this a Burghclere marriage by any chance? > > -- > John Lewis <jayellatntlworlddotcom> from Bournemouth, Dorset, UK. > using Debian GNU/Linux and GeneWeb genealogy software > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

John There is another Andrews marriage which I don't think you have on your website. William Tidbury born about 1744 was the father of my David Tidbury and Glenn's Jeremiah Tidbury senior. He married Charlotte Andrews. She was from Greenham so the Andrews may well be another family who went backwards and forwards across the Hants/Berks border. I haven't looked at the Andrews side at all at the moment but I suppose it's possible that Minnie Andrews could well be related to Charlotte. Here's the full entry for the banns and marriage of William and Charlotte from the Thatcham Parish Registers: 1782 Banns of marriage between William Tidbury of the Chapelry of Greenham in this parish Bachelor Charlotte Andrews of the Chapelry of Greenham in this parish spinster were regularly published in this parish church on the three following Sundays Aug. 18, 25, Sept 1 1782 William Tidbury of the Chapelry of Greenham in this parish Bachelor and Charlotte Andrews of the Chapelry of Greenham in this parish spinster were married in this parish Church by Banns the eighth day of December 1782 by Mr S Thompson vicar. This marriage was solemnised between us William Tidbury (his mark) Charlotte Andrews (her mark) In the presence of John Stroud Edw. Winbolt [Edw. Winbolt was a witness to many of the marriages around this time. He was probably one of the few people in the parish who could read and write so was called upon to act as a witness whenever anyone married. I don't know who John Stroud is.] Best wishes Debbie

----- Original Message ----- From: "Mattingley Glenn" <g.mattingley@bssgroup.com> To: "'Barbara Mallyon'" <BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk> Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 8:13 AM Subject: RE: subscribe | Hello All, | | from the Kingsclere area I am researching the following surnames: | | TROUGHTON - Martha bap.2.2.1842 married Jeremiah TIDBURY | ANDREWS - Minnie married John TROUGHTON 10.10.1839 | SEWARD - Martha married Samuel TROUGHTON 19.5.1796 | HARDING - Mary b. ca 1743 d.1822 married Joseph SEWARD and were the parents | of Martha (above) | | The rest of the family comes from all over, the only resources I have apart | from the internet are the 1891 census from Buckinghamshire and the 1851 | census from Devon, Norfolk & Warwickshire. The Kingsclere branch is from my | mother's side with Walter TIDBURY (son of Jeremiah & Martha) being my GG | Grandfather. Other branches include west & south London, Middlesex, | Stratford upon Avon, Berkhamsted and Wycombe Bucks. Occupations: Brickyard & | Agricultural Labourers, Bargees, Alehouse Keepers and Domestic Servants | (quite a common lot really). | | Regards | | Glenn Mattingley MIEX | Export Sales | BSS Group PLC | Ph: 00 44 (0) 116 256 7084 | Fx: 00 44 (0) 116 256 7096 |

Hi Frank, I have found this marriage:- Charles WAITE full age, bachelor, gardener of Kingsclere. Father George WAITE, Labourer to Ann HISCOCK full age, spinster of Kingsclere. Father William HISCOCK, labourer. Witnesses are Thomas CANNINGS and Charlotte HISCOCK (own handwriting) 23 July 1857 Regards Barbara Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk

Hi Frank, Welcome to Kingsclere. I have looked all around the dates of 1738 for the surname of WAIT, but so far nothing. There is a problem looking on the microfiche, some of the fiche is so poor you cannot read some of it. If I do come across any of the WAIT family I will contact you. Best wishes Barbara Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Francis WAYT" <FRANK@fwayt.fsnet.co.uk> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 11:35 PM Subject: Brick-wall | Hi Listers, | I am new to this list and would appreciate some help tracing | an elusive ancestor.James Wait married Alice Chittle in Whitchurch on | 25-05-1738 .The parish records have James as coming from Kingsclere, so I | have no detail of his birth or parentage. Alice was 19 years old when they | married, so I assume James would be of similar age, probably born around | 1718, but again I could be completely wrong in that assumption. I really do | need your help on this one Listers. | In anticipation, Frank Wayt. | | | --- | Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. | Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). | Version: 6.0.498 / Virus Database: 297 - Release Date: 08/07/2003 | | | ============================== | To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: | http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 |

The Discovery Channel showed a film entitled 'Poziers' today. Unfortunately I only saw the last few minutes of it. Did anyone on the list see it and perhaps record it, if so I would love a copy My grandfather Francis Cooper was killed at Poziers 87 years ago tomorrow on 23 July 1916. -- John Lewis

I have lost track of who has what in terms of fiche but I'd like a lookup in Burghclere marriages and baptisms please. I'm looking for the marriage of James Holmes to an Esther around 1861. The 1881 census has him living at Foscot Lane, Wolverton with wife Esther age 40 born Burclere, dau Sarah age 19 born Burclere and other children born Itchinswell. I have found baptisms for all the Ecchinswell ones so they are no problem. I am also looking for baptisms in Burghclere for Richard and Emily Holmes. They are recorded in the 1851 Thatcham census with Richard born 1845 Kingsclere and Emily born 1848 Burghclere but there is no baptism of Richard to William & Mary Ann Holmes in Kingsclere so possibly he too was baptised in Burghclere. William & Mary Ann Woodhouse married at St. Paul Woodlands in 1848. Subsequent children were born in Thatcham or Crookham according to 51/81 censuses. Carol Dolton would also like a lookup for any Dolton baptisms around 1816, in particular a John Dolton who was living in East Woodhay in 1851 and who said he was born Burghclere. He married a Sarah Jarvis about about 1840 according to FreeBMD in Kingsclere Reg. Dist. Was this a Burghclere marriage by any chance? -- John Lewis <jayellatntlworlddotcom> from Bournemouth, Dorset, UK. using Debian GNU/Linux and GeneWeb genealogy software

On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 16:13:33 +0100 Barbara Mallyon wrote: > Hi Debbie, > > Marriage 10 October 1839 John TROUGHTON full age bachelor Bricklayers > Labourer Kingsclere father Samuel TROUGHTON Labourer. > Married Minny ANDREWS full age spinster Domestic Servant Sydmonton father > Isaac Andrews Labourer. Probably John son of Samuel and Martha Seward who married on 19 May 1796 at St. Mary. They had: o Francis ca 1799 o Mary ca 1804 o Martha ca 1806 o John 1809 &1839 Minnie Andrews o Martha ca 1842 o Mary ca 1845 o Jane ca 1848 o Harriet ca 1850 o Elizabeth ca 1811-1811 o George ca 1815 o Charles ca 1819 &1841 Susanna Holmes ca 1821-1848 o Rebecca 1842 o Ellen 1845 o Susannah 1848 o Charles ca 1819 &1850 Rosa Ann Foster 1827 John was born Kingsclere Town and baptised on 5 May 1809 at St Mary Samuel was recorded as sexton in 1819 when Charles was baptised but don't know how many years he did this job. Martha Seward's grandfather Thomas born ca 1687 also married a Troughton, Bridget, on 13 Mar 1737 but I don't know at present time if Samuel was a descendant from Bridget's family. Charles Troughton's first wife Susanna, baptised as Hananiah I think but need to make sure there wasn't a Susanna born to Richard and Elizabeth Holmes or Homes, came from the Holmes family who married into Woodhouse and Rabbits (3 different generations in this case) His second wife Rosa Ann Foster was a cousin of my gt-grandfather Thomas Cooper. I haven't checked to see if they had any children yet. -- John Lewis <jayellatntlworlddotcom> from Bournemouth, Dorset, UK. using Debian GNU/Linux and GeneWeb genealogy software

Many thanks to John and Barbara for the wealth of new information about the Troughtons which I've passed on to my Tidbury researcher. I'm glad we've finally managed to fit Walter into the jigsaw. Best wishes Debbie

Hi Listers, I am new to this list and would appreciate some help tracing an elusive ancestor.James Wait married Alice Chittle in Whitchurch on 25-05-1738 .The parish records have James as coming from Kingsclere, so I have no detail of his birth or parentage. Alice was 19 years old when they married, so I assume James would be of similar age, probably born around 1718, but again I could be completely wrong in that assumption. I really do need your help on this one Listers. In anticipation, Frank Wayt. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.498 / Virus Database: 297 - Release Date: 08/07/2003

If anyone has access to the 1861 census for Kingsclere or Burghclere please can you look up something for me? I am interested in any information about Thomas Challis (aged about 52?), his wife Mary (age unknown) and son Isaac (aged about 23?). Best regards Ron Challis

Hi Debbie, Marriage 10 October 1839 John TROUGHTON full age bachelor Bricklayers Labourer Kingsclere father Samuel TROUGHTON Labourer. Married Minny ANDREWS full age spinster Domestic Servant Sydmonton father Isaac Andrews Labourer. Baptism Martha TROUGHTON of Kingsclere daughter of John and Minny 2 February 1842 Kingsclere Occ Labourer. Baptism Mary TROUGHTON daughter of John and Minny of near Falcon, Kingsclere 9 February 1845 (Falcon Inn) Occ labourer Baptism Jane TROUGHTON daughter of John and Minny of Kingsclere Occ labourer 13 February 1848 Baptism Harriet TROUGHTON daughter of John and Minnie of near Falcon, Kingsclere Occ Labourer 12 October 1850 Regards Barbara Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk ---- Original Message ----- From: <DEBBIEKENNETT@aol.com> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 10:38 AM Subject: Walter TIDBURY son of Jeremiah TIDBURY and Martha LOUGHTON | Some of you may remember my earlier request to the list about the | problematical Walter Tidbury. It now appears that the Walter Tidbury who married Eliza | DRUCE on 17th September 1889 at Lane End, Bucks, was indeed the one who was | baptised in Kingsclere in 1862. The father's name on the marriage certificate was | given as Frederick Tidbury but this appears to have been a mistake as all the | details from the various censuses confirm that Walter was the son of Jeremiah | and Martha. | | According to his birth certificate Walter was born on 24th April 1862 at | North Street, Kingsclere. His father was Jeremiah Tidbury, railway labourer, and | his mother was Martha TROUGHTON. Martha appears to have been christened on 2nd | February 1842 in Kingsclere, the daughter of John Troughton and Minnie ANDREWS | who were possibly married on 10th October 1839 in Kingsclere. Martha was | possibly one of four sisters, the others being Mary, baptised 9th February 1845, | Harriet, baptised 12th October 1850, and Jane, baptised 13th February 1848. | | Jeremiah Tidbury died some time before the 1881 census and Martha then | married Henry RANDALL, a labourer, born about 1836 in Hursley, Hampshire.Walter | Tidbury was living with his mother Martha and stepfather Henry Randall in the 1881 | census. In 1891 Walter (born Hants) and Eliza were living in Upper North | Dean, High Wycombe, with their 10-month-old son, Alfred Tidbury. In 1901 Alfred | is living with Martha and Henry Randall and is described as their grandson. | | I would be most grateful if Barbara or John could have a look at the | Kingsclere registers and give me the full details of the TROUGHTON marriage and | baptisms as shown above. If anyone has any connections with any of these names do | let me know and I will put you in touch with my Tidbury contact. | | Best wishes | | Debbie | | | ============================== | To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: | http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 |

Kingsclere Burials as taken from the Parish Register for 1818 Part 2 SHACKLEFORD Joseph of Town age 70 years 5 July WOODLEY Jane of Goose Hill age 64 years 6 July GRINLEY Elizabeth of Ecchinswell age 38 years 16 July HALLORAN George of Sydmonton age 50 years 20 July * HILL Elizabeth of Ecchinswell age 4 months 24 July HARRIS/NORRIS ? Sarah of Cotts Malt House age 32 years 11 August TAYLOR Robert of the Dell age 37 years 12 August PIKE Henry of Town age 5 months 17 August * PIKE Elizabeth of Town age 5 months 24 August* (twins) HAINES Samuel of Headley Common age 24 years 30 August CUFSAL James of near Headley Common age 17 weeks 26 September SOPER James of Wolverton Common age 8 weeks 17 October ORCHARD John of T Oak Common age 63 years 14 November WALKER Martha of Ecchinswell age 70 years 21 November SHARP Hannah of Kingsclere age 23 years 27 November BASTIN Hannah near Headley Common 5 years and 11 months 28 November BENWELL Elizabeth of Long Croft age 77 years 19 December EXELL Joseph of the Dell age 52 years 26 December * There is a letter in the Parish Register to the Minister and Wardens of Sydmonton from His Majesty's Corona, for the County of Hants dated 20 July 1818. George HALLORAN who drowned himself in a fit of lunacy on the eighteenth instant and now lies dead in Parish etc. I am sure you can get a copy of this letter from the Hampshire Record Office for your records. Regards Barbara Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk

Kingsclere Burials as taken from the Parish Register for 1818 Part1 APPLETON Hannah of Ram Alley age 94 years 4 January BEARE William of Ashford Hill age 2 month ? 9 January (please check age could be 12 months) SPROUT Hannah of Town age 52 years 18 February PAICE Rachel of Sydmonton age 67 years 22 March WINKWORTH Thomas age 44 years 28 March BENWELL Elizabeth age 74 years 2 April HUGHES Mary Ann of Town age 9 days 2 April SHARP Mary of Padworth age 37 year 6 April GOVER Lucey Ecchinswell age 41 years 11 April POVEY James near Oakley age 1 year 1 month 11 April CLEMENTS Joshua of Town age 72 years 18 April 1818 BATTEN Sarah of Town age 52 years 22 April ROLFE William of Ecchinswell age 22 years 1 May CHAPEL Harriet of Headley Common age 4 years 13 May ROFF Elizabeth of Town age 79? 26 May BROWN Charles of Sydmonton Wivvien? age 9 months 29 May CURTIS Martha of Town age 35 years 3 June HARDING William age 78 years 16 June CHANDLER Mary of Town age 78 years 25 June Regards Barbara Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk