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    1. Re: Prismall family
    2. Barbara Mallyon
    3. Hello Jenny, I have just found a John PRISMALL bachelor married to Elizabeth BOOTH spinster by licence 4 March 1818. Joshua BOOTH of Ecchinswell married Mary RUMBOLD of Ecchinswell 29 May1826 Witnesses are Robert SMITH and June RUMBOLD. St. Mary's Church, Kingsclere. Regards Barbara Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "B & J MULQUEEN" <BJ.MULQUEEN@bigpond.com> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 08, 2003 1:05 AM Subject: Prismall family | Hello List, | | Could anyone help me with a conflict of names - so to speak. | | I have a relative John Prismall born about Feb 1758 Kingsclere and | married to Martha Ruddle 18 May 1780 | His father was John Prismall born about Feb 1729 and married to an Ann | Smith in Kingsclere 21 Sep 1755 | His father was Thomas Prismall born about Dec 1696 in Kingsclere and | married to Elizabeth ? prior to 1716 | | My question is I have been given two different names for Thomas' father. | | 1. William Prismall married 8 Oct 1682 to Elenora Gardynow - this | reference was from the Kingsclere families site under "The Farmers" | (which I must say was a wealth of info) | | 2. Samuel Prismall b app 1645 and married around 1687 to a Mary ? - | which was given to me by our family researcher Carol Dale, who again is | a wealth of knowledge. | | Which one is correct? Could Samuel be a brother? | | Signed (confused) | | Jenny | Australia | | | | | | | ============================== | To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: | http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 |

    09/10/2003 04:32:23
    1. William DOLTON
    2. Barbara Mallyon
    3. Hello Carol, Have you got this marriage:- William DOLTON widower married to Rosannah ALLOWAY spinster by Banns at St. Mary's Church, Kingsclere. Witnesses are Jacob ALLOWAY and Harriet ALLOWAY 4 February 1815. As taken from the Parish Register. Regards Barbara Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk

    09/10/2003 04:03:09
    1. Marriage Ann BRIDGMAN
    2. Barbara Mallyon
    3. Hello Rod, Is this your Ann BRIDGMAN spinster married to William WOOLRIDGE bachelor by Banns at St. Mary's Church, Kingsclere 8 February 1821 Witnesses are Joseph and Mary STROUD. Regards Barbara Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk

    09/10/2003 04:01:29
    1. RE: GIRDLER/SEYMOUR marriage 1897
    2. Colin Harris
    3. Thanks to Barbara and John for the various pieces of information on the above. I'm now going to hide in a quiet corner and try to make some sense of them ;-) Regards Colin Harris --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.516 / Virus Database: 313 - Release Date: 01/09/2003

    09/10/2003 12:48:15
    1. Re: GIRDLER/SEYMOUR marriage 1897
    2. John Lewis
    3. On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 07:14:32 +0100 Colin Harris wrote: > One other possibility is the 1891 census, if anyone has easy access > to it, according to the 1901 Alice should appear as a SEYMOUR > together with at least two children Eliza age 5 or 8 and Henry age 2 > and hopefully the mystery husband, the 1901 census says the children > were born Headley. If Eliza is age 5 rather than 8 this would again > point to the 1888 marriage being the right one. HGS index to the 1891 census has George as 48, Alice as 28 which confirms what I thought and has Henry Geo. -- John Lewis <jayellatntlworlddotcom> from Bournemouth, Dorset, UK. using Debian GNU/Linux and GeneWeb genealogy software

    09/10/2003 06:23:56
    1. Re: GIRDLER/SEYMOUR marriage 1897
    2. John Lewis
    3. On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 07:14:32 +0100 Colin Harris wrote: > One other possibility is the 1891 census, if anyone has easy access > to it, according to the 1901 Alice should appear as a SEYMOUR > together with at least two children Eliza age 5 or 8 and Henry age 2 > and hopefully the mystery husband, the 1901 census says the children > were born Headley. If Eliza is age 5 rather than 8 this would again > point to the 1888 marriage being the right one. tracked them down at Holly Lane, Headly George Seymour, head, 48?, general labourer born Kingsclere Alice, wife 28 -"- Elizabeth, dau, 6 scholar -"- Rose, dau, 4 -"- Henry ?, son, 1 -"- George's age has the usual line thro it which makes it hard to decipher and there is something written after Henry which may be another initial. Elizabeth is neither 5 nor 8 ?? -- John Lewis <jayellatntlworlddotcom> from Bournemouth, Dorset, UK. using Debian GNU/Linux and GeneWeb genealogy software

    09/10/2003 06:21:10
    1. Re: GIRDLER/SEYMOUR marriage 1897
    2. John Lewis
    3. On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 07:14:32 +0100 Colin Harris wrote: > One other possibility is the 1891 census, if anyone has easy access > to it, according to the 1901 Alice should appear as a SEYMOUR > together with at least two children Eliza age 5 or 8 and Henry age 2 > and hopefully the mystery husband, the 1901 census says the children > were born Headley. If Eliza is age 5 rather than 8 this would again > point to the 1888 marriage being the right one. The only child I can find baptised to George & Alice Seymour is Matilda at St. Peter, Headly on 2 Apr. 1893, abode given as nr. Tan House, father lab. I haven't found any burial entry for Matilda nor as yet found her in the 1891 census but will start looking at the CDs next. I wonder if they are among those 'pesky' Methodists for whom we don't have easy access to the records. -- John Lewis <jayellatntlworlddotcom> from Bournemouth, Dorset, UK. using Debian GNU/Linux and GeneWeb genealogy software

    09/10/2003 05:22:30
    1. Re: GIRDLER/SEYMOUR marriage 1897
    2. John Lewis
    3. On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 08:27:50 +0100 Barbara Mallyon wrote: > Details of the Marriage Certificate for George SEYMOUR and Alice > Hafsey(HUSSEY) > > George SEYMOUR age 40 years widower labourer of Kingsclere, father > Henry SEYMOUR labourer. Alice HUSSEY age 30 years spinster of > Kingsclere, father John HAFSEY (HUSSEY) labourer. Witnesses are > Walter and Caroline SEYMOUR.( Georges brother and sister in law). > Married at St. Paul's Church, Kingsclere Woodlands. I am looking thro' the 1891 census for Colin and spotted Walter Seymour with wife Caroline, stepson Stephen Wilmot 10, Louise Seymour 6, Albert Seymour 3, living at Plastow Green. I looked in my data base for a Caroline Wilmot and found that a Caroline Girdler born Oct 1843 Headly Common, married James Wilmot(t) about Sept. 1869 in Newbury Berks (I have no other details, but the info possibly came via Colin's Girdler interests) -- John Lewis <jayellatntlworlddotcom> from Bournemouth, Dorset, UK. using Debian GNU/Linux and GeneWeb genealogy software

    09/10/2003 04:58:12
    1. Re: David Lovelock (c 1814 Wootton Rivers)
    2. John Lewis
    3. On Mon, 8 Sep 2003 20:51:07 -0700 David Lovelock wrote: > On the Lovelock Family History website > (http://perso.numericable.fr/~lovjames/family-history/lovelock/), Thanks to info on this website I have been able to put together a more comprehensive Lovelock tree for the Kingsclere Lovelocks. It looks like: Descendants of Francis Lovelock To the 7th generation. Francis Lovelock ca 1720 &1743 Ann Payne 1. James Lovelock 1744 & Mary ? 1.1. Mary Lovelock ca 1761 2. Francis Lovelock 1745 &1781 Ann Webb 2.1. William Lovelock 1783 &1810 Ann Tucker 2.1.1. Edward Lovelock ca 1811-ca 1877 &1834 Mary Ann May ca 1815 2.1.1.1. Sarah Ann Lovelock 1835 2.1.1.2. William Lovelock 1837 2.1.1.3. Martha Lovelock ca 1840 2.1.1.4. Edward Lovelock ca 1843 &ca 1866 Hannah N.. +/1881 2.1.1.4.1. Stephen Alfred Lovelock ca 1866 2.1.1.4.2. Alfred Lovelock ca 1867 2.1.1.4.3. Agnes Lovelock 1870 2.1.1.4.4. Sarah Ann Lovelock 1872 2.1.1.4.5. Julia Lovelock 2.1.1.5. Joseph Lovelock ca 1845-/1910 &1869 Mary Jeffery ca 1851 2.1.1.5.1. Harriet Ann Lovelock ca 1870 2.1.1.5.2. Edwin John Lovelock ca 1872 2.1.1.5.3. Martha Lovelock ca 1875 2.1.1.5.4. Mary Elizabeth Lovelock ca 1877 2.1.1.5.5. Joseph David Lovelock ca 1880 2.1.1.5.6. Beatrice Eugenia Lovelock ca 1882 &1910 Alresford Cooper ca 1873-ca 1948 2.1.1.5.6.1. David Geoffrey Cooper ca 1913 2.1.1.5.6.2. Mary Cooper ca 1914 &1934 William Leslie Dolton ca 1903 2.1.1.5.6.3. Nora Gladys Cooper ca 1915 &1933 Reginald Edward Gillman ca 1911 2.1.1.5.6.4. George Cooper ca 1918 2.1.1.5.6.5. Maurice Cooper 1919-1974 &1941 Olive Winifred Lane 1921 2.1.1.5.6.5.1. David John Cooper ca 1942- 2.1.1.5.6.5.2. Diane Irene Cooper 1947-1947 2.1.1.5.6.5.3. Brian Arthur Cooper ca 1951- 2.1.1.5.6.5.4. Margaret Euginee Cooper ca 1954- 2.1.1.5.6.6. Cecil Cooper 1920 2.1.1.5.6.7. Hilda Cooper ca 1921 2.1.1.5.7. Harry Lovelock ca 1885-1885 2.1.1.5.8. Sydney Alfred Jeffery Lovelock ca 1886 2.1.1.5.9. George Lovelock ca 1888 &1915 Eliza Maria Hutchins ca 1889 2.1.1.5.9.1. Violet Ruby Lovelock ca 1917- 2.1.1.5.10. Thomas Edward Lovelock ca 1891 2.1.1.6. Mary Jane Lovelock ca 1848 2.1.1.7. Elizabeth Lovelock ca 1850 2.1.1.8. John Lovelock ca 1852-1877 &1873 Julia Smith ca 1855 2.1.1.8.1. Ismay Annie Lovelock 1874 2.1.1.8.2. William Charles Lovelock ca 1876-/1881 2.1.1.9. Thomas Lovelock ca 1855-1942 &1874 Eliza Foster ca 1857-1921 2.1.1.9.1. Martha A Lovelock ca 1880 2.1.1.10. Alfred Edwin Lovelock 1858-1859 2.1.2. John Lovelock ca 1813-/1860 &1849 Rebecca Dance ca 1817 2.1.3. Hannah Lovelock ca 1815-1820 2.1.4. Tracy Lovelock 1820 2.1.5. Mary Lovelock 1823 2.1.6. Anthony Lovelock 1825-1834 2.2. Thomas Lovelock ca 1785 &1805 Sarah Lane 2.3. Joseph Lovelock ca 1787 2.4. Sarah Lovelock ca 1790 &1819 William Spicer 2.5. Hannah Lovelock ca 1794-1795 2.6. George Lovelock ca 1797 &1823 Caroline Smith 3. Giles Lovelock 1750 &1772 Elizabeth Chandler 4. Richard Lovelock ca 1752-1836 & Theodosia x ca 1750-1825 4.1. Jane Lovelock ca 1781 4.2. Anne Lovelock ca 1783 4.3. Richard Lovelock ca 1785 & Ann ? 4.3.1. Charlotte Lovelock ca 1808 4.4. Sarah Lovelock ca 1787 4.5. Francis Lovelock ca 1791-1791 4.6. Sarah Lovelock ca 1792-1793 4.7. George Lovelock ca 1794 5. Amy Lovelock 1763 & ? ? &1791 Thomas Philpot 5.1. Thomas Lovelock ca 1790 5.2. Jane Philpot ca 1792 &1812 James Moore 5.3. William Philpot ca 1793 &1812 Olive Winkworth 6. Thomas Lovelock ca 1766 I had hoped that Francis would be the un-named child bapt. at St. Mary, Kingsclere on 28 Aug 1715 but I think it is more likely this was the Mary buried on 25 Jul 1716 as the next girl bapt. on 8 Apr 1720 was also called Mary. So am still looking for parents of Francis who could have been born about 1720. Incidentally the Kingsclere & Hannington Lovelocks are both the same family (or rather the ones listed in the 1780-1812 Bishops Transcripts are) I have family connections into the Kingsclere Lovelocks through marriage into my Cooper and Foster lines, plus I am descended directly on my maternal Grandmother's line from an Elizabeth Lovelock born in Swallowfield, Berks about Nov 1696 who married Jonathan Lewington on 18 Oct 1716. -- John Lewis <jayellatntlworlddotcom> from Bournemouth, Dorset, UK. using Debian GNU/Linux and GeneWeb genealogy software Main Family Names in HAM are: Kingsclere: BUTLER, COOPER, FISHER, FOSTER, GIRDLER, HAWKINS, SMITH Hazeley Heath: BARKER, CHANDLER, LEWINGTON, NEVILL(E)

    09/10/2003 04:00:26
    1. Re: GIRDLER/SEYMOUR marriage 1897
    2. Barbara Mallyon
    3. Hello Colin, Details of the Marriage Certificate for George SEYMOUR and Alice Hafsey (HUSSEY) George SEYMOUR age 40 years widower labourer of Kingsclere, father Henry SEYMOUR labourer. Alice HUSSEY age 30 years spinster of Kingsclere, father John HAFSEY (HUSSEY) labourer. Witnesses are Walter and Caroline SEYMOUR. ( Georges brother and sister in law). Married at St. Paul's Church, Kingsclere Woodlands. I am still checking the information that I have about George and the children and will get back to you, all of the Seymour family are on my tree. Regards Barbara Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin Harris" <colin.harris4@btinternet.com> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 7:14 AM Subject: RE: GIRDLER/SEYMOUR marriage 1897 | This could be the right Alice, although the age is significantly different, | also I think this George died in 1899 (FreeBMD has a George dying in | Kingsclere Sept 1899 aged 55). | | FreeBMD records Albert Daniel GIRDLER as marrying June Qtr 1897 but his is | the only name transcribed for that index page so far, which leaves open the | possibility that he may have been a widower when he married Alice SEYMOUR | if his first wife died shortly after marriage. | | One other possibility is the 1891 census, if anyone has easy access to it, | according to the 1901 Alice should appear as a SEYMOUR together with at | least two children Eliza age 5 or 8 and Henry age 2 and hopefully the | mystery husband, the 1901 census says the children were born Headley. If | Eliza is age 5 rather than 8 this would again point to the 1888 marriage | being the right one. | | Regards | | Colin | | | | On Tuesday, September 09, 2003 9:19 PM, John Lewis wrote: | > On Tue, 9 Sep 2003 19:42:46 +0100 | > Colin Harris wrote: | > | > > Hello all | > > | > > Does anyone have any connections to the Alice SEYMOUR who married | > > Albert Daniel GIRDLER in 1897? | > | > Colin | > | > I have recorded | > | > Alice Hussey, Born about 1858 - Woodlands | > Parents John Hussey & ? ? | > Married on 26 June 1888, St. Paul, Woodlands, to George Seymour ca | > 1844 | > (witnesses: Walter Seymour, Caroline Seymour 1867) | > | > Does she fit the other details you have | > -- | > John Lewis | | --- | Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. | Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). | Version: 6.0.516 / Virus Database: 313 - Release Date: 01/09/2003 | | | | ============================== | To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: | http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 |

    09/10/2003 02:27:50
    1. RE: GIRDLER/SEYMOUR marriage 1897
    2. Colin Harris
    3. This could be the right Alice, although the age is significantly different, also I think this George died in 1899 (FreeBMD has a George dying in Kingsclere Sept 1899 aged 55). FreeBMD records Albert Daniel GIRDLER as marrying June Qtr 1897 but his is the only name transcribed for that index page so far, which leaves open the possibility that he may have been a widower when he married Alice SEYMOUR if his first wife died shortly after marriage. One other possibility is the 1891 census, if anyone has easy access to it, according to the 1901 Alice should appear as a SEYMOUR together with at least two children Eliza age 5 or 8 and Henry age 2 and hopefully the mystery husband, the 1901 census says the children were born Headley. If Eliza is age 5 rather than 8 this would again point to the 1888 marriage being the right one. Regards Colin On Tuesday, September 09, 2003 9:19 PM, John Lewis wrote: > On Tue, 9 Sep 2003 19:42:46 +0100 > Colin Harris wrote: > > > Hello all > > > > Does anyone have any connections to the Alice SEYMOUR who married > > Albert Daniel GIRDLER in 1897? > > Colin > > I have recorded > > Alice Hussey, Born about 1858 - Woodlands > Parents John Hussey & ? ? > Married on 26 June 1888, St. Paul, Woodlands, to George Seymour ca > 1844 > (witnesses: Walter Seymour, Caroline Seymour 1867) > > Does she fit the other details you have > -- > John Lewis --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.516 / Virus Database: 313 - Release Date: 01/09/2003

    09/10/2003 01:14:32
    1. David Tidbury Chelsea Pensioner
    2. I wonder if Barbara or John could possibly have a look at the Kingsclere registers to see if there is a burial record for David TIDBURY. I now have a copy of his death certificate. He died in North Sidmonton aged 84 years on 19th December 1867 so presumably would have been buried shortly afterwards. I would also be interested to know if there is a burial record for David's wife Phoebe Tidbury who died some time after 1851 and probably before 1861. According to the death certificate David was a Chelsea pensioner but so far I have not managed to find any evidence of his army service. When his children Devine, Solomon, and David were baptised in Greenham David Tidbury senior was a labourer. The other children were all baptised at St Mary's, Kingsclere, but I don't seem to have any record of David's occupation at the time of their baptism. Could you possibly have a look at the registers and let me know what it says about David's occupation? The four children born in Kingsclere are: Mary Ann Tidbury, baptised 26 April 1832 Joshua Tidbury, baptised 7th December 1834 Joseph Tidbury, baptised 23 April 1838 Hannah Maria Tidbury, baptised 30 January 1842 I already have the full details of the births and baptisms for the above children so it is just the occupation I need. David was living in Sidmonton in the 1851 census but I only have the details from the indexes not the full census entry so I do not know if he had joined the army by 1851. The other possibility is that David had already completed his army service before the birth of his first child as he would have been 37 when Devine was born in 1822. It seems that David Tidbury was an out-pensioner (as opposed to an in-pensioner who lived at Chelsea Hospital). The army records are all at the PRO but it appears that it is very difficult to find the relevant records unless you know the name of the regiment. Does anyone have any experience researching Army records who might know how I can proceed? Best wishes Debbie Kennett

    09/09/2003 11:40:38
    1. Re: GIRDLER/SEYMOUR marriage 1897
    2. John Lewis
    3. On Tue, 9 Sep 2003 19:42:46 +0100 Colin Harris wrote: > Hello all > > Does anyone have any connections to the Alice SEYMOUR who married > Albert Daniel GIRDLER in 1897? Colin I have recorded Alice Hussey, Born about 1858 - Woodlands Parents John Hussey & ? ? Married on 26 June 1888, St. Paul, Woodlands, to George Seymour ca 1844 (witnesses: Walter Seymour, Caroline Seymour 1867) Does she fit the other details you have -- John Lewis

    09/09/2003 03:19:23
    1. GIRDLER/SEYMOUR marriage 1897
    2. Colin Harris
    3. Hello all Does anyone have any connections to the Alice SEYMOUR who married Albert Daniel GIRDLER in 1897? Alice appears to have been previously married as the family appear in the 1901 census in Ecchinswell and 3 of the 4 children are described as step-children of Albert. The 1901 census gives Alice's age as 36 born Ecchinswell, the 3 step-children are Eliza aged either 15 or 18, Henry age 12 and Matilda age 8 all born Headly. What I am interested in finding is Alice's maiden name and parents and who was the SEYMOUR that she married? I suspect Alice may be a HUSSEY but have nothing to confirm this. Any help would be greatly appreciated. TIA Colin Harris --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.514 / Virus Database: 312 - Release Date: 28/08/2003

    09/09/2003 01:42:46
    1. Pamber Heath website
    2. Barbara Mallyon
    3. Hello All, This website was on one of the other rootsweb mailing lists, it has many Kingsclere names on it. http://www.pamberheatharchives.org.uk/peoplesz.htm Worth having a look, you never know what you may find. Pamber Heath is not far from Tadley. Regards Barbara Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk Listowner

    09/09/2003 01:38:39
    1. Re: Prismall family
    2. Barbara Mallyon
    3. Hello Jenny, Baptism of John PRISMALL of John and ANN 5 February 1758 Baptism of Johannas son of Thomas and Elizabeth PRISMALL 23 February 1728 Baptism of Thomas son of Guliclmi PRYFMALL (PRYSMALL) 7 December 1696 no mothers name given. The microfiche is almost illegible for Samuel's baptism, 1645 His father was John PRISMALL born about Feb 1729 and married to an Ann SMITH in Kingsclere 21 Sep 1755 witnesses were Joseph MILES and ? LOVELL. Joseph MILES is my 5 x great grandfather. There is a Richard PRISMALL born Sheatcham/Cheatcham ? and Betty SEWARD age 21 years of Kingsclere Banns, married 16 July 1757 Witnesses are James SEWARD and Samuel ROLFE Baptism Elizabeth daughter of Richard and Eliza (Betty) PRISMIAL?/PRISMALL 17 November 1757 Regards Barbara Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "B & J MULQUEEN" <BJ.MULQUEEN@bigpond.com> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 08, 2003 1:05 AM Subject: Prismall family | Hello List, | | Could anyone help me with a conflict of names - so to speak. | | I have a relative John Prismall born about Feb 1758 Kingsclere and | married to Martha Ruddle 18 May 1780 | His father was John Prismall born about Feb 1729 and married to an Ann | Smith in Kingsclere 21 Sep 1755 | His father was Thomas Prismall born about Dec 1696 in Kingsclere and | married to Elizabeth ? prior to 1716 | | My question is I have been given two different names for Thomas' father. | | 1. William Prismall married 8 Oct 1682 to Elenora Gardynow - this | reference was from the Kingsclere families site under "The Farmers" | (which I must say was a wealth of info) | | 2. Samuel Prismall b app 1645 and married around 1687 to a Mary ? - | which was given to me by our family researcher Carol Dale, who again is | a wealth of knowledge. | | Which one is correct? Could Samuel be a brother? | | Signed (confused) | | Jenny | Australia | | | | | | | ============================== | To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: | http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 |

    09/08/2003 03:45:20
    1. Prismall family
    2. B & J MULQUEEN
    3. Hello List, Could anyone help me with a conflict of names - so to speak. I have a relative John Prismall born about Feb 1758 Kingsclere and married to Martha Ruddle 18 May 1780 His father was John Prismall born about Feb 1729 and married to an Ann Smith in Kingsclere 21 Sep 1755 His father was Thomas Prismall born about Dec 1696 in Kingsclere and married to Elizabeth ? prior to 1716 My question is I have been given two different names for Thomas' father. 1. William Prismall married 8 Oct 1682 to Elenora Gardynow - this reference was from the Kingsclere families site under "The Farmers" (which I must say was a wealth of info) 2. Samuel Prismall b app 1645 and married around 1687 to a Mary ? - which was given to me by our family researcher Carol Dale, who again is a wealth of knowledge. Which one is correct? Could Samuel be a brother? Signed (confused) Jenny Australia

    09/08/2003 04:05:28
    1. Apprenticeship Records
    2. Zorro
    3. Hi - I am wondering if anyone has access to Portsmouth Records Office where they have a small amount of apprenticeship records with an index. I am interested in Mortimer in particular John Mortimer a Forman Rope Maker died 1852 age 75 and a Henry Mortimer Tailor born 1806 Portsea. Any help greatly appreciated. Regards Jenny

    09/05/2003 01:31:38
    1. Re: Apprenticeship Records
    2. Barbara Mallyon
    3. Hello Jenny, Welcome to Kingsclere. If you are researching in the Portsmouth area, the Hampshire rootsweb will be able to help you better, they seem to specialise in Portsmouth and the Isle of Wight. HAMPSHIRE-L-request@rootsweb.com to subscribe and unsubscribe HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com to send messages to their list. Kind regards Barbara Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk Listowner ----- Original Message ----- From: "Zorro" <Mortj@bigpond.com> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 10:31 PM Subject: Apprenticeship Records | Hi - I am wondering if anyone has access to Portsmouth Records Office | where they have a small amount of apprenticeship records with an index. | I am interested in Mortimer in particular John Mortimer a Forman Rope | Maker died 1852 age 75 and a Henry Mortimer Tailor born 1806 Portsea. | Any help greatly appreciated. | Regards Jenny | | | | ============================== | To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: | http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 | | |

    09/04/2003 06:26:49
    1. Lyford
    2. Ron Challis
    3. Please can anyone provide any information on Mary Lyford who I believe was born between 1800 and 1820. Thanks Ron

    09/04/2003 02:39:18