Hello Rosemary and Gordon, These are the Burials listed in St. Mary's Church Graveyard if you have not already got them. STROUD John and Sarah STROUD age 18 years 9 June 1827 grave 24 STROUD Thomas son of John and Sarah age 4 years 13 September 1811 grave 25 STROUD Sarah wife of John STROUD age 44 years 14 February 1819 grave 26 STROUD John age 79 years 11 April 1854 grave 27 The Graveyard information has been taken from Peter GOFF'S website www.kingsclere.org.uk This gives you the date of death and any information that may be on a headstone, or recorded in the Graveyard records. There are 9 and a half, A4 pages if you want to down load this information. Regards Barbara Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "rosemary and Gordon" <graw2@iprimus.com.au> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-L-request@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 7:29 AM Subject: Stroud and Wise families | Babara Mallyon has kindly suggested that I post a message on this site regarding these families. | I now know from a kind Phil Wood at Berkshire that my G.G.Grandparents, Joseph Stroud and Harriet Wise, were married at Speen 16 April 1814. | Their daughter Eliza married Edwin Whitten of Oxford in Chiswick in 1851 and then they came to Australia. Eliza had several siblings. I would be very interested if anyone has any information about these families as I seem to be stuck at 1814. | Rosemary in Melbourne |

Hello Debbie and All, The MILES family that you mentioned help build the Thatcham, Berkshire Primitive Methodist Church, as they were carpenters. The Church had their own magazine, monthly publication, I believe. Regards Barbara Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: <DEBBIEKENNETT@aol.com> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 10:07 PM Subject: [King] Newbury Primitive Methodist Circuit | I was looking through the above registers today at the Berkshire Record | Office and noticed that there were quite a few Kingsclere names. I presume that the | Kingsclere baptisms in these registers took place at Kingsclere Chapel. I | started to make a note of a few names but then realised there were far too many | and time was running out as I had a child to collect from school. If you're | missing any Kingsclere baptisms these registers are well worth a look. Here are a | few baptisms which might be of help to some of you: | | 1874 March 31st Eliza Beatrix daughter of David and Eliza Miles of Ashford | Hill Wood dealer | | 1874 March 31st Blanche daughter of Frederick and Caroline Butler of August | Hill, Kingsclere Parish Labourer | | 1874 April 14th Frederick Israel Joel and Mary Hutchings Ashford Hill | Labourer | | I noticed in particular that there were quite a few Girdlers. The Newbury | Methodist Circuit also covers Greenham and Leckhampstead Thicket. | | Best wishes | | Debbie | | | ============================== | To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: | http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 |

On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 19:08:41 +0100 "Roger Lewington" <roger.lewington@ntlworld.com> wrote: > Robert Gale married Mary Rumbold 9th November 1826 East Woodhay > > 1. 1827 Hannah Gale > 2. 1833 Mary Gale > > Mary Rumbold bapt 20th Oct 1799 died 17 April 1833 East Woodhay > Robert Gale's birth place given as Sparsholt, Oxfordshire. I suppose you have: James Rumbold, married on 24 October 1795, East Woodhay, to Mary Winterbourn, with Mary bapt 20 Oct 1799, East Woodhay James bapt 22 Aug 1802 William bapt 10 Mar 1805 John born 8 Apr1807, bapt 12 Apr 1807 Could James be the one born at Ecchinswell to Mathew Rumbold and Mary Hood and bapt. 8 Oct 1769? ******************** Also a Thomas Rumbold married on 2 December 1780, East Woodhay, to Elizabeth White. Could this be the Thomas baseborn to Elizabeth at Ecchinswell and bapt. on 23 Mar 1766? A Thomas & Elizabeth Rumbold baptised William on 25 Aug 1783 & Thomas on 18 Mar 1787, at Newtown. -- John Lewis <jayellatntlworlddotcom> from Bournemouth, Dorset, UK. using Debian GNU/Linux and GeneWeb genealogy software

On Thu, 9 Oct 2003 18:15:21 -00 "Nigel Gerdes " <nigel.gerdes@milnet.uk.net> wrote: > Patricia > > All I have is Elizabeth Hedges married James Baggs 4 Aug 1850 > Died 06 Oct 1863 Hannington and was buried 09 Oct 1863 Hannington. > I expect John Lewis will have more. For once I don't even have this particlular marriage. Whilst I have one Baggs tree which resembles the Baggs family on Benjamin Becks website I cannot fit the above James into this tree. I haven't followed up on the Baggs family as I don't have Hannington parish records other than the 1780-1812 Bishops Transcripts. Carol probably has more info than I do. -- John Lewis <jayellatntlworlddotcom> from Bournemouth, Dorset, UK. using Debian GNU/Linux and GeneWeb genealogy software

On Thu, 9 Oct 2003 18:42:30 -00 "Nigel Gerdes " <nigel.gerdes@milnet.uk.net> wrote: > I have William Bolton who married Sarah Smith b 14 Aug 1824 > Kingsclere in Dec Quarter 1851. The Smith side I can provide details, > it is my family tree. I would much value any details on the Bolton > side you might be able to provide. Did they have a family? I have Sarah Gurdler, widow married to William Bolton at St. Paul, Woodlands on 21 Dec 1851. Sarah's father was Jacob Smih and her first marriage to Andrew Girdler. Witness to this marriage (entry no. 69) were Joseph Bolton and Louisa Anglas. William was said to be of Thatcham and his father Benjamin Bolton, labourer. Th 1851 census for Thatcham has a William Bolton age 45, and a Joseph Bolton age 40 both ag labs and born Thatcham, recorded as lodgers at Little Park Farm, Thatcham. So it looks like this is the right William although to confuse things (as usual) there is a William age 41 born Thatcham recorded in Kingsclere in 1851. However it could be this William has a wife Elizabeth age 32 born Wasing, 'tho it would need the 'as enumerated' to confirm this. No record of any Benjamin in Thatcham, Newbury or Bradfield RDs nor in any of the N. Hants parishes around Kingsclere. He isn't recorded as deceased in the marriage entry so his whereabouts is a mystery. The only other Bolton in Thatcham is a Joseph age 75 born Thatcham who is recorded as step-father in h/h of Thomas Collins 37 b. Greenham and wife Amy 35 born Thatcham. -- John Lewis <jayellatntlworlddotcom> from Bournemouth, Dorset, UK. using Debian GNU/Linux and GeneWeb genealogy software

I was looking through the above registers today at the Berkshire Record Office and noticed that there were quite a few Kingsclere names. I presume that the Kingsclere baptisms in these registers took place at Kingsclere Chapel. I started to make a note of a few names but then realised there were far too many and time was running out as I had a child to collect from school. If you're missing any Kingsclere baptisms these registers are well worth a look. Here are a few baptisms which might be of help to some of you: 1874 March 31st Eliza Beatrix daughter of David and Eliza Miles of Ashford Hill Wood dealer 1874 March 31st Blanche daughter of Frederick and Caroline Butler of August Hill, Kingsclere Parish Labourer 1874 April 14th Frederick Israel Joel and Mary Hutchings Ashford Hill Labourer I noticed in particular that there were quite a few Girdlers. The Newbury Methodist Circuit also covers Greenham and Leckhampstead Thicket. Best wishes Debbie

Hello All I am having trouble with BT at the moment. I am on Surf Time but could always use Daytime. BT suddenly over the past five weeks have not accepted me during Daytime - they do not accept my User Name & Password although I have not in anyway altered the wording in the Box. I wrote to them as to find a "live" voice on the telephone I found impossible. A young man came on the phone last week and took me through procedures and he gave me a new Symbol and said everything would be O.K. I now have Symbol "Short cut New Daytime". Tried it - you have guessed correctly - still will not accept me. I have sent another letter. >From Barbara's List it appears I am not the only one having trouble with BT. Anyone who has sent me messages and have not received a reply I am sorry - perhaps I might receive them if you send after 6pm in the evening and before 8am next day and at the Weekends - this is my Surf Time Package - if you send during the day it seems that I am not going to receive them as my User Name & Password are not being accepted. I know that BT have had Virus trouble and I wonder if this is the cause, though the young man last week who phoned said it should not affect me. I am running my Norton twice a week at the moment just incase. Denis [Hamilton]

Hi all I have several emails to answer as soon as I catch up with all that has been going on during our week away in France, so bear with me if I seem to have neglected to reply to your particular enquiry. -- John Lewis <jayellatntlworlddotcom> from Bournemouth, Dorset, UK. using Debian GNU/Linux and GeneWeb genealogy software

Hello All, There has been a lot of Bounced Mail, I have received messages to say that the Mail Delivery System has tried for 5 days to deliver mail to various people. This is a sample of what I have been receiving:- This is a MIME-encapsulated message --h9K1PZR5030047.1066685540/lists2.rootsweb.com The original message was received at Wed, 8 Oct 2003 17:15:25 -0600 from slist@localhost ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- philo_or_prismall@btinternet.com peter.goff@btinternet.com helenanderson.home@btopenworld.com hannahbutler1@btopenworld.com e.gibson@btinternet.com dc8@btinternet.com S.Bestley@btinternet.com Rita.Ford5@btopenworld.com Julies33@btopenworld.com Denis.R.Hamilton@btinternet.com ----- Transcript of session follows ----- Denis.R.Hamilton@btinternet.com,Julies33@btopenworld.com,Rita.Ford5@btopen world.com,S.Bestley@btinte...ld.com,helenanderson.home@btopenworld.com,pet er.goff@btinternet.com,philo_or_prismall@btinternet.com... Deferred: Connection timed out with stargate.btinternet.com. Message could not be delivered for 5 days Message will be deleted from queue --h9K1PZR5030047.1066685540/lists2.rootsweb.com Content-Type: message/delivery-status Reporting-MTA: dns; lists2.rootsweb.com Arrival-Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 17:15:25 -0600 Final-Recipient: RFC822; philo_or_prismall@btinternet.com Action: failed Status: 4.4.7 Last-Attempt-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 15:32:20 -0600 Final-Recipient: RFC822; peter.goff@btinternet.com Action: failed Status: 4.4.7 Last-Attempt-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 15:32:20 -0600 Final-Recipient: RFC822; helenanderson.home@btopenworld.com Action: failed Status: 4.4.7 Last-Attempt-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 15:32:20 -0600 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------- If you have sent messages and have not had a reply from them, you may like to send the messages again. Regards Barbara Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk

Thank you Rod and Ann, It was a good day, meeting and getting to know each other from the Kingsclere rootsweb. Diary date for next year, Sunday the 10th October 2004, Crown Inn, Kingsclere. There were 18 of us this year, lets make it more next year. Best wishes Barbara Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "clargo" <clargo@tinyworld.co.uk> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2003 5:21 PM Subject: A Thank You to Barbara, | Hello Everybody, | | I think a large thank you is due to Barbara for arranging today's lunch at | Kingsclere for subscribers of the list (and other halves). | | It was an afternoon of good companionship, good food and good weather. | What more is needed? | | Thanks Barbara, | Rod in Andover. | | | ============================== | To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: | http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 |

Hello Roger and All, You may find this website interesting it refers to the surname of BOLTON, also it will tell you the history that took place about about 15 miles from Kingsclere. http://www.oldbasing.gov.uk/profile.html Regards Barbara Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger Boulton" <rogerjboulton@hotmail.com> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 12:00 AM Subject: BOLTON | Hi | I am researching the name Bolton and would like located anyone researching | the name in the Kingsclere area. | | Regards | | Roger Boulton | | _________________________________________________________________ | Chat via SMS. Simply send 'CHAT' to 1889918. More info at | http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilemania/MoChat.asp?blipid=6800 | | | ============================== | To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: | http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 |

I wish I could have been there! Hope to make it at next year's Kingclere lunch. Meanwhile, my interest is RUMBOLD in Ecchinswell/Sydmonton/Kingsclere (also an occasional spin-off in places like Ashmansworth and over the border in Aldermaston, Berks.). Best wishes, Mary Phillips.

I'll second that Rod. (Message only just received due to Lists2 server being down.) Barbara suggested a Roll Call so here goes: My Kingsclere interests, in order of precedence, are: ARUNDELL all (any variant) in Kingsclere and surrounding parishes of Hants, Berks and Wilts. WIDMORE/WIGMORE all BATCHELOR all (any spelling) Kind regards Ann Sargeant, Basingstoke ----- Original Message ----- From: "clargo" <clargo@tinyworld.co.uk> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2003 5:21 PM Subject: A Thank You to Barbara, Hello Everybody, I think a large thank you is due to Barbara for arranging today's lunch at Kingsclere for subscribers of the list (and other halves). It was an afternoon of good companionship, good food and good weather. What more is needed? Thanks Barbara, Rod in Andover. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.528 / Virus Database: 324 - Release Date: 16/10/2003

Dear Mary, Received your reply to my post, but my direct email to you bounced. It was the Prismall's who had a number of children emigrate. Look forward to your info when you get home. Carol Dale

Carol, Christina and John (this message has been delayed for 6 days by Mailer-Daemon) John Rumbold was my husband's great grandfather. He died in his prime from an accident in the field, according to my late mother-in-law. His horse threw him and he was carried home on a farmyard gate. His widow and three daughters had to live in penury for the rest of their lives - from being waited on by servants, the three girls were obliged to go into service themselves. I have a lot of information on John Rumbold and his family, in which the eldest son in each generation was named John, at Swait's Farm, Ecchinswell. Unfortunately, my papers are at home in Winchester and I will not be able to check until I go back for a few weeks in November. Best wishes to all, Mary Phillips P.S. Carol, when you say "a number of their children came to Australia" do you mean your Prismalls, or those of Mary Rumbold and Joshua Booth?

Hello Everybody, I think a large thank you is due to Barbara for arranging today's lunch at Kingsclere for subscribers of the list (and other halves). It was an afternoon of good companionship, good food and good weather. What more is needed? Thanks Barbara, Rod in Andover.

Can anyone tell me where "Newbury Marsh" is/was in the Kingsclere area? All I know is that in 1842 it was: west of the road from Kingsclere to Newbury south of a pond called Marsh Pond east of land that belonged to the trustees of Highams Charity If anyone has got an ancestor called Catherine Bew from Kingsclere? I may have a couple of interesting snippets for you. Regards Ron Challis

Hello All, Just a reminder to those that are coming to the 2nd Anniversary Lunch at the Crown Inn, Kingsclere. Please be there by 12.30pm so that we can all meet up before Lunch, if the weather is good like last year, there are tables and seats outside, in front of the Crown Inn, that is opposite St. Mary's Church. Look forward to seeing you all. Regards Barbara Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk

Dear Kingsclere listnames, Notifying you of my interests in Kingsclere & West/East Woodhay : William Lewington bapt.circa 1822 father Charles(on two separate marr.certificates!) Hannah Gale bapt. 16th September 1827 father Robert Gale mother Mary Rumbold. William Lewington married Hannah Gale 14th October 1846, Sydmonton. 1. Charles born 1846 2. Joseph born 1849 3. Frederick born 1851 4. John born 1855 (my line) Please note that the William Lewington bapt 1822 in East Woodhay has father Joseph. AAAARGH! Robert Gale married Mary Rumbold 9th November 1826 East Woodhay 1. 1827 Hannah Gale 2. 1833 Mary Gale Mary Rumbold bapt 20th Oct 1799 died 17 April 1833 East Woodhay Robert Gale's birth place given as Sparsholt, Oxfordshire. Roger Lewington Hampshire,England.

Roger, I have William Bolton who married Sarah Smith b 14 Aug 1824 Kingsclere in Dec Quarter 1851. The Smith side I can provide details, it is my family tree. I would much value any details on the Bolton side you might be able to provide. Did they have a family? Best wishes, Nigel Gerdes Researching SMITH ALLEN KENT MARTIN GARRETT and others in North Hampshire