Wendy See also the PIPER family [thread 18] on John's site: http://startx.co.uk:2317/Kingsclere?m=NG&n=Piper&t=N John has used the BTs and has infilled some baptisms to Thos/Maria PIPER. Dorothy J.

Wendy You have a short memory! Look back in the archives of the Kingsclere RootsWeb, particularly to Sat 12 Aug 2006! Dorothy J.

On Sunday 03 June 2007 10:42:12 WENDY wrote: > Hi Dorothy& fellow lister's > Sorry to reply by tagging on to previous messages but i > have sent two messages that are not getting through for some reason. Hi Wendy and List, The previous messages you sent did reach here via the list. You may find your own e-mail service supplier has a spam filter set to block mail from yourself to yourself even if it comes via a list. One spammer technique is to send mail to you and make it look as if it came from you, hence many service providers put the default setting to block such mail. If you take it up with your supplier they may be able to help. There might be a self service spam filter setting at your suppliers web site you can adjust to permit mail from yourself to reach you via a list distribution such the one we use at [email protected] Hope this helps, good luck with the PIPERS - not a name I have much on so unable to assist. Nigel

Hi Dorothy& fellow lister's Sorry to reply by tagging on to previous messages but i have sent two messages that are not getting through for some reason. Anyway here goes. My G.G.G. Grandfather was MICHAEL PIPER who married AMY BUTTERFIELD on 8th May 1828. I have not managed to connect him to any other PIPER'S from East Woodhay or found any info regarding parents/siblings. I know of his daughter Eliza & her son Thomas but nothing more. Any help would be fantastic. Regards Wendy -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Dorothy Jones Sent: 30 May 2007 22:35 To: [email protected] Subject: [King] PIPER Family of East Woodhay - Marriages Extracts from East Woodhay Parish Marriages Register: No 13 18 Apr 1815 by Banns with Consent of Parents George CALLIS bachelor (sgd) Harriet PIPER spinster (x) Witnesses: Eliza CHALLIS (sgd); Richd PIPER (x) No 14 18 Apr 1815 by Banns with Consent of Parents Thomas PIPER bachelor otp (x) Elizabeth HALL spinster otp (x) Witnesses: Hannah HALL (x); Jno ANNOTS (x) No 46 25 Dec 1820 by Banns John PIPER widr (x) Martha JACOB (x) Witnesses: Michael PIPER (x); Hannah JACOB (x) No 101 08 May 1828 by Banns Michael PIPER bachelor otp (x) Amy [blank] spinster otp (sgd Amy BUTTERFIELD) Witnesses: George CALLIS (sgd); John BUTTERFIELD (sgd) No 124 22 May 1831 by Banns James PIPER bachelor otp (sgd) Miriam TANNER wid (sgd) Witnesses: Elizabeth Ann HUSSEY (sgd); Thomas HUSSEY (sgd) No 161 21 May 1835 Samuel TALBOT otp (x) Marianne PIPER otp (x) Witnesses: Anne TALBOT (x); George TALBOT (x) ---------------------------------------- >From Kingsclere.If you get unsubscribed and did not ask to be unsubscribed, please contact List Admin. ---------------------------------------- Changing your Email address, unsubscribe with your old address and Subscribe to the List with your new email address. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.6/828 - Release Date: 01/06/2007 11:22 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.6/828 - Release Date: 01/06/2007 11:22

Hi Dorothy'& fellow lister's My G.G.G.Grandfather is Michael PIPER who married Amy BUTTERFIELD on 8th May 1828. I have traced him back through his daughter Eliza. At present I have not found any info regarding Michael's parent's/siblings or managed to connect him to any other PIPER'S from East Woodhay. Any info in breaking through my brickwall would be fantastic. Regards Wendy No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.6/828 - Release Date: 01/06/2007 11:22

Elizabeth Many thanks for the Timothy BROWNJOHN baptism. I hadn't thought to look for him under the surname BROWN. I can see you will have your work cut out sorting out the BROWNS and BROWNJOHNS. Do all the BROWNS change their name to BROWNJOHN? How have you established that Amos BROWNJOHN is the father of Hannah KEWELL's two children? Was he the only BROWNJOHN living in Ecchinswell at that time or do you have other documentary evidence? Debbie Kennett In a message dated 01/06/2007 11:05:00 GMT Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Hi Debbie, I think the Timothy BROWN baptised 15 April 1792 at Kingsclere s James and Mary,miller of Itchingswell must be Amos' son. The IGI has "James and Mary" and I have the fiche which certainly looks like "James and Mary. This Timothy married: 07 September 1817 at Mapledurham Timothy BROWNJOHN of Ipsden Anne READE. They had 2 children in the 1851 census: John-c1826 Elizabeth-c1828 Elizabeth

I had an email a few days ago that said > Catherine Twitchin (Father William Twitchin, Maltster) was born 9th > May 1826 and married James Richard Fry (Father John Fry, Brewer) b > 29th Jan 1823, Pimlico on 18th July 1852 at St Margaret's > Westminster. Witnessed by Sidney Twitchin & Jane Fry. > I have a copy of their marriage certificate. James & Catherine had 9 children (that I have found) in Pimlico/Lambeth/Reading and both James and Catherine died in Reading. James Richard Fry was born in Pimlico to John & Elizabeth Fry. I haven't found a marriage and only 2 children, J R born ca1823 and Jane born ca1828. We think John Fry was the one born in Bramley ca1794 to Richard Fry & Jane Gosling who married at Bramley on 26 May 1788. Richard Fry being born in Kingsclere ca1763. To complete this family Jane Fry married a James Henry PITT in Westminster in Sep Qtr 1853 -- John Lewis Debian (Sid) with the GeneWeb genealogy package

Hi Debbie, I think the Timothy BROWN baptised 15 April 1792 at Kingsclere s James and Mary,miller of Itchingswell must be Amos' son. The IGI has "James and Mary" and I have the fiche which certainly looks like "James and Mary. This Timothy married: 07 September 1817 at Mapledurham Timothy BROWNJOHN of Ipsden Anne READE. They had 2 children in the 1851 census: John-c1826 Elizabeth-c1828 Elizabeth ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Mail is the world's favourite email. Don't settle for less, sign up for your free account today http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/evt=44106/*http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/mail/winter07.html

On Wed, 30 May 2007 23:59:17 -0600 Jeff Androsoff <[email protected]> wrote: > I have a husband for Alice Brown (born 1871 Basildon, Berks). > It was a mystery until we found the photo album. > She married Alfred Lovegrove born about 1869 in Boxford > Berkshire St. Andrew's parish married in Dec 1898 in Bradfield. > If you look on the 1901 census, my great grandmother Elsie > Brown is living with them aged 13 born in Basildon Berks. Thanks Jeff, marriage added -- John Lewis Debian (Sid) with the GeneWeb genealogy package

Sorry again, Jeff - I said John BRADLEY was Emma's uncle, when he was, of course her father! I haven't been over in that part of the family forest for quite a while and the 'little grey cells' aren't what they used to be...! Mike ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Mail is the world's favourite email. Don't settle for less, sign up for your free account today http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/evt=44106/*http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/mail/winter07.html

Hello Jeff. First of all, an apology - I said in my last mail that Emma BROWN née BRADLEY was the sister of my great-grandmother Esther BRADLEY, who married John COX. I'm afraid I was having a 'senior moment' and confusing Emma with her aunt, Esther's sister Eliza BRIDGMAN née BRADLEY (too many forenames beginning with E. and surnames with B...!) Anyway, that still makes Emma the first cousin of my grandad Harry COX, and I remain interested in seeing a photo of her. To answer you query, my research interest in this area is the extended BRADLEY family, and thus your Emma and her BROWN descent. I look forward to hearing more in due course. Regards, Mike [PS - was it yourself who mentioned a fair while back that there was a photo in existence somewhere of Emma's uncle and Esther's brother, John BRADLEY?] ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Mail is the world's favourite email. Don't settle for less, sign up for your free account today http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/evt=44106/*http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/mail/winter07.html

Hey John L., I have a husband for Alice Brown (born 1871 Basildon, Berks). It was a mystery until we found the photo album. http://startx.co.uk:2317/Kingsclere?i=18814 She married Alfred Lovegrove born about 1869 in Boxford Berkshire St. Andrew's parish married in Dec 1898 in Bradfield. http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl?vol=2c&pgno=829&type=Marriages&start=1898&sq=4&end=1898&eq=4&v=MTE4MDU5MDk1OTplMzg5NmJjZWQxNTQ2MzRlNjM5NWQ3ZjY3ZDMyMjE0MDM5Njg4YWVj&jsexec=1&mono=0&action=Find If you look on the 1901 census, my great grandmother Elsie Brown is living with them aged 13 born in Basildon Berks. Jeff

> Hello Jeff & Listers. > > I for one would be very interested in any photos of > Emma BRADLEY/ John BROWN, as Emma was my 2x great-aunt > (the sister of my great-grandmother, Esther BRADLEY). Hmm I was awaiting your email.... I couldn't quite recall who had contacted me as to who was researching whom. Are you just interested in John and Emma Bradley?? It has most of the son's and daughters of John/Emma (along with my great grandmother). There is one of Thomas Pemberton (husband of Emma Brown) dated very late 1800's. There is a family picture of John and Emma, includes all kids except Les the youngest so about 1892. A lot arent identified, will see what I have. I will contact you off list probably on the weekend when I have the time to do some scanning. Jeff

Whilst extracting the PIPER burials from the East Woodhay register I encountered this entry: No 401 29 Mar 1833 Solomon ROSE aged 27 Beneath the entry, barely legible, were the words 'killed fighting'. Are any of our ROSE researchers aware of the circumstances? Dorothy J.

Extracts from the East Woodhay Burials Register Unless indicated otherwise, East Woodhay was recorded as their abode: No 226 09 Aug 1826 Thomas PIPER aged 74 No 257 16 Feb 1828 Thomas PIPER of Highclere aged 9 mos No 448 07 Aug 1835 William PIPER aged 55 No 521 08 Jul 1837 Henry PIPER 1 ½ No 531 10 Oct 1837 Elizabeth PIPER aged 6 mos & 3 wks No 583 01 Jun 1839 Thomas PIPER aged 10 mos No 584 n.d. John PIPER aged 59 Bl.smith No 596 11 Apr 1840 John PIPER aged 10 days No 699 20 Nov 1844 Richard PIPER inf No 730 30 Aug 1846 Harriet PIPER aged 12 No 756 27 Sep 1847 Maria PIPER aged 90 Dorothy J.

Extracts from East Woodhay Parish Marriages Register: No 13 18 Apr 1815 by Banns with Consent of Parents George CALLIS bachelor (sgd) Harriet PIPER spinster (x) Witnesses: Eliza CHALLIS (sgd); Richd PIPER (x) No 14 18 Apr 1815 by Banns with Consent of Parents Thomas PIPER bachelor otp (x) Elizabeth HALL spinster otp (x) Witnesses: Hannah HALL (x); Jno ANNOTS (x) No 46 25 Dec 1820 by Banns John PIPER widr (x) Martha JACOB (x) Witnesses: Michael PIPER (x); Hannah JACOB (x) No 101 08 May 1828 by Banns Michael PIPER bachelor otp (x) Amy [blank] spinster otp (sgd Amy BUTTERFIELD) Witnesses: George CALLIS (sgd); John BUTTERFIELD (sgd) No 124 22 May 1831 by Banns James PIPER bachelor otp (sgd) Miriam TANNER wid (sgd) Witnesses: Elizabeth Ann HUSSEY (sgd); Thomas HUSSEY (sgd) No 161 21 May 1835 Samuel TALBOT otp (x) Marianne PIPER otp (x) Witnesses: Anne TALBOT (x); George TALBOT (x)

I'm normally the last to hear about these websites ( I only discovered the calm databases this year) but I have found a useful site with searchable indexes of all manner of things, that may be of use to some. It is a commercial site but the searching is free. http://www.lightage.demon.co.uk/ Bob Hutchins Email: [email protected] Website & Genealogy Database www.bobhutchins.me.uk

Hi Debbie, Don't leave those Certificate too long, on one of the Rootsweb someone said one of the Registry Offices were charging £8.00 per Certificate, I don't know if this is true or not. Kind regards Barbara Lewis Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants. UK [email protected] List Admin ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 5:38 PM Subject: Re: [King] Marriage of Letitia KEWELL nee BRIDGEMAN and John ANDREWS > > Hi John > > Never mind. This couple are not in my direct line. I have a huge > list of > certificates still to order and this marriage is way down on my list > of > priorities. As there are a number of Bridgeman researchers on the > list I was hoping > that someone else might have already found the marriage. Being a > second > marriage they could well have married in a Register Office. > > Best wishes > > Debbie > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------- >>From Kingsclere.If you get unsubscribed and did not ask to be >>unsubscribed, please contact List Admin. > ---------------------------------------- > Changing your Email address, > unsubscribe with your old address and Subscribe to the List with > your new email address. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message

On Wed, 30 May 2007 11:25:59 EDT [email protected] wrote: > Does anyone have the full record of the marriage of Letitia KEWELL > nee BRIDGEMAN and John ANDREWS? They married in the first quarter > of 1866 in the Kingsclere Registration District, probably at St > Lawrence, Ecchinswell, or St Mary's, Kingsclere. Letitia BRIDGEMAN > was born in 1816 in Burghclere, the daughter of Joseph and Ann > BRIDGEMAN. Letitia was previously married to John KEWELL. I > believe John Andrews is the one on John Lewis's website who was > born in Sydmonton in 1822 the son of William ANDREWS and Lucy > PROUT. Hi Debbie So far as I know the Marriage Register for St. Lawrence is still held in the parish. They didn't marry at St. Mary or St. Paul so if they did in fact marry at St. Lawrence rather than Burghclere (which is of course in Kingsclere RD) then the only way you are going to get the details is by writing to the Parish Clerk and asking for a search of that part of the register (don't forget to enclose a SAE) _or_ by getting a copy of the Marriage Certificate -- John Lewis Debian (Sid) with the GeneWeb genealogy package

Hi John Never mind. This couple are not in my direct line. I have a huge list of certificates still to order and this marriage is way down on my list of priorities. As there are a number of Bridgeman researchers on the list I was hoping that someone else might have already found the marriage. Being a second marriage they could well have married in a Register Office. Best wishes Debbie