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Hi list, I am hoping some one can help point me in the right direction on several points. I am trying to find out why a child's birth was registered in Kingsclere to a woman who has no kingsclere connections whatsoever. Alice Louisa Hayter was born London 1897 (Registered in Kingsclere). daughter of Sarah Jane Hayter and Lord ? Cabinet secetary to the Prime minister Marquis of Salisbury 3rd term. Sarah Jane born 1879 Moredon Wiltshire gave Alice to be adopted by Mary and Joseph Butler, of Kingsclere. Mary was a Monthly nurse. Sarahs Parents were Fanny Hurd born Crockerton Chapelry Warminster (1846) and her Father was Albert Hayter born at Longford Salisbury (Castle)(1846) Alice is in the Butler's household census 1901, but i cannot fathom out how they would have come by the child in the first place, or is there a local Lord to Kingsclere that was a civil servant at the time of Lord Salisbury's goverment (Possible Father) and could the Butlers have been employees in some way, and how would I find that out Alice went on to marry Charles oliver Lovelock brother of two of my Gt Uncles by marriage. Bob Access the Hutchins-Westwood Genealogy Database www.bobhutchins.me.uk or www.rfh.me.uk

On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 08:14:46 -0400 "Peter Ferreira" <[email protected]> wrote: > I am seeking to contact and exchange family history notes with any > descendant or researcher of the family of my cousin, Henry James > HULL (1850 - 1905), a farmer in East Woodhay, Hants. > > Henry James HULL, son of Henry and Sarah HULL, yeoman of East > Woodhay, Hants, was baptized there 1850. It looks from the 1861 Census that Henry senior was born in Wiltshire at Sutton Benger? ca1809. The only Henry on the IGI is this one Henry Hull, Christening: 30 NOV 1809 Christian-Malford, , Wilts Parents: Father: Richard Hull, Mother: Elizabeth since google maps shows Christian Malford just a short distance away from Sutton Benger I suspect this is the Henry who was father of Henry James. > In 1894, he married his > cousin, Mary LAWRENCE, in Inkpen, Berks (BMD ref: Hungerford 2c / > 597); Mary was born in Inpken about 1866, baptized there 1866 > (I.G.I.), the eldest daughter of Richard LAWRENCE, farmer of Inkpen > Manor Farm. The IGI also has Mary: MARY <LAURENCE>, Christening: 26 AUG 1866 Inkpen, Berks Parents: Father: RICHARD LAURENCE Mother: SARAH ANNE I don't currently have any of this family in my database but as it is a family from within Kingsclere Registration District I'll be adding it. -- John Lewis Debian (Sid) with the GeneWeb genealogy package

A couple of days ago I had an email from a lady in NZ which said amongst other things "I have a forebear, Robert Fisher born about 1806 in Kingsclere, a labourer who joined the army on 17 October 1826 and was stationed in India. He was married on 11 April 1837 to Harriet McAndrew at St John's Church Trichinopoly, India by Banns." This posed a slight problem in that I didn't have a Robert born in 1806 so I asked some questions and have come to the conclusion that Robert is actually Robin who was baptised on 29 Oct 1809 to Benjamin and Martha (Coe). The baptism entry notes he was born on 11 Oct 1806. This fits nicely with this bit of info: Burial: Kamptee 13 Sept 1841 Robert Fisher Pte HM 39th Regiment aged 34 years and 11 months at Kamptee (India Record Office & Library) Casualty Returns of 39th Regt. Foot (held at PRO Kew) 1279 Pte Robert Fisher Born at Kingsclere, Hampshire, Labourer, attested 17 Oct 1826 died at Kamptee 12 Sept 1841. 4-4-11 paid to his widow and children. No Prize Money No will Wife Harriet at Kamptee East Indies My guess is that he was know as Rob or Robbie and when he enlisted said he was Robbie Fisher and the recruiting sergeant entered his name as Robert. Robert had a couple of children and the son Robert George also joined the Army and eventually ended up in Ipswich where he died. One of his two daughters, Teresa, became a schoolteacher and emigrated to New Zealand in 1911 and is the grandmother of my correspondent. The family apart from the NZ ones are now on the website at http://startx.co.uk:2317/Kingsclere?i=1993. Teresa was a second cousin of my great-grandmother Esther Fisher and will be related to several other Kingsclere-listers with Fisher connections. -- John Lewis Debian (Sid) with the GeneWeb genealogy package

Hello All I bought my copy of the Woodlands Story at Newbury Museum for £10-ish. They may have a few copies left. If anyone would like one, I'm quite happy to get one for them and bring it to the lunch on Sunday. Eileen Barbara Mallyon <[email protected]> wrote: Hi Robin, Amazon have got the books at £11.99 new and £11.47 new and used (what ever that means). The ISBN is 0 953 7778-0-4 Is there an Amazon Books in Canada where you live. As Peter said the book Kingsclere Woodlands Story did originally cost £10 , the last time I enquired at the Ship Inn Post Office, they were out of stock and were not expecting any more. Kind regards Barbara Lewis Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants. UK [email protected] List Admin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robin Price" To: "list Kingsclere" Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 5:32 PM Subject: [King] (no subject) > > Hello All, > > I have been offered the book "Woodlands Kingsclere Story" by a UK > book dealer for 45 GB POUNDS plus shipping charges. It would amount > to over $100 Canadian, sounds a bit much to me, any comments > welcome. > > Regards > Robin. > > Researching: SEYMOUR > HUSSEY > WHITE > SMALLBONE All Kingsclere and surounding area. > _________________________________________________________________ > Be seen when you can't be heard! Discover how today! > http://www.freemessengeremoticons.ca/ > ---------------------------------------- >>From Kingsclere.If you get unsubscribed and did not ask to be >>unsubscribed, please contact List Admin. >>[email protected] > ---------------------------------------- > Changing your Email address, > unsubscribe with your old address and Subscribe to the List with > your new email address. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.39/1045 - Release Date: > 02/10/2007 18:43 > > ---------------------------------------- >From Kingsclere.If you get unsubscribed and did not ask to be unsubscribed, please contact List Admin. [email protected] ---------------------------------------- Changing your Email address, unsubscribe with your old address and Subscribe to the List with your new email address. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

All, Any help with this roadblock would be appreciated. William Wallis born 1764 died 1827 kingsclere. There is a William Wallis died 18th Jan. 1801 age 81 years Buried St. Mary's Kingsclere. Could this be the father of the above? And where was he from? Look forward to breaking this roadblock. Jim Wallis

I have replied to John Lewis, off-list, with more detailed attachments. Peter. ----- Original Message ----- From: "john lewis" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:07 AM Subject: Re: [King] Henry James HULL (1850 - 1905), farmer of East Woodhay, and Mary LAWRENCE (1866 - 1929), his wife > On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 08:14:46 -0400 > "Peter Ferreira" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I am seeking to contact and exchange family history notes with any >> descendant or researcher of the family of my cousin, Henry James >> HULL (1850 - 1905), a farmer in East Woodhay, Hants. >> >> Henry James HULL, son of Henry and Sarah HULL, yeoman of East >> Woodhay, Hants, was baptized there 1850. > > It looks from the 1861 Census that Henry senior was born in Wiltshire > at Sutton Benger? ca1809. The only Henry on the IGI is this one > > Henry Hull, Christening: 30 NOV 1809 Christian-Malford, , > Wilts > Parents: Father: Richard Hull, Mother: Elizabeth > > since google maps shows Christian Malford just a short distance away > from Sutton Benger I suspect this is the Henry who was father of Henry > James. > >> In 1894, he married his >> cousin, Mary LAWRENCE, in Inkpen, Berks (BMD ref: Hungerford 2c / >> 597); Mary was born in Inpken about 1866, baptized there 1866 >> (I.G.I.), the eldest daughter of Richard LAWRENCE, farmer of Inkpen >> Manor Farm. > > The IGI also has Mary: > > MARY <LAURENCE>, Christening: 26 AUG 1866 Inkpen, Berks > Parents: Father: RICHARD LAURENCE Mother: SARAH ANNE > > I don't currently have any of this family in my database but as it > is a family from within Kingsclere Registration District I'll > be adding it. > <snip>

Hi Robin the book you mentioned is on offer at a much lower price @ $22 on Amazon books. Kingsclere Woodlands Story: The History of the Parish of Ashford Hill with Headley by Gary Cusworth and Roger yours Greg Ross

Gregory wrote: "the book [Woodlands Story]... is on offer at a much lower price @ $22 on Amazon books." I have in fact just ordered this book from Amazon at a price of £11.45 plus postage. Mike ___________________________________________________________ Want ideas for reducing your carbon footprint? Visit Yahoo! For Good http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/environment.html

Thanks to all who wrote in about the Kingsclere book and put me on the right track, I have now ordered a copy at a reasonable price. Robin Canada _________________________________________________________________ Show your pals how you really feel! Learn more today! http://www.freemessengeremoticons.ca/

On Wednesday 03 October 2007 18:07, john lewis wrote: > On Wed, 3 Oct 2007 11:32:29 -0500 > > Robin Price <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hello All, > > > > I have been offered the book "Woodlands Kingsclere Story" by a UK > > book dealer for 45 GB POUNDS plus shipping charges. It would amount > > to over $100 Canadian, sounds a bit much to me, any comments > > welcome. Regards Robin. > > I used AbeBooks today to order a book on the Zulu Wars and I see > they can sell you a copy for £12 +P&P so your quoted price seems OTT The original price of the book when it was in print was £9.00. Frankly the offer at £45 is a try on. John's find seems much nearer true market value. The family historian may not be concerned about the condition of the book instead concentrating on the content. But for a book collector it has a huge impact on value. Regards, Nigel Gerdes

Hi Robin, Amazon have got the books at £11.99 new and £11.47 new and used (what ever that means). The ISBN is 0 953 7778-0-4 Is there an Amazon Books in Canada where you live. As Peter said the book Kingsclere Woodlands Story did originally cost £10 , the last time I enquired at the Ship Inn Post Office, they were out of stock and were not expecting any more. Kind regards Barbara Lewis Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants. UK [email protected] List Admin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robin Price" <[email protected]> To: "list Kingsclere" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 5:32 PM Subject: [King] (no subject) > > Hello All, > > I have been offered the book "Woodlands Kingsclere Story" by a UK > book dealer for 45 GB POUNDS plus shipping charges. It would amount > to over $100 Canadian, sounds a bit much to me, any comments > welcome. > > Regards > Robin. > > Researching: SEYMOUR > HUSSEY > WHITE > SMALLBONE All Kingsclere and surounding area. > _________________________________________________________________ > Be seen when you can't be heard! Discover how today! > http://www.freemessengeremoticons.ca/ > ---------------------------------------- >>From Kingsclere.If you get unsubscribed and did not ask to be >>unsubscribed, please contact List Admin. >>[email protected] > ---------------------------------------- > Changing your Email address, > unsubscribe with your old address and Subscribe to the List with > your new email address. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.39/1045 - Release Date: > 02/10/2007 18:43 > >

Hi Robin the book you mentioned is on offer at a much lower price @ $22 on Amazon books. Kingsclere Woodlands Story: The History of the Parish of Ashford Hill with Headley by Gary Cusworth and Roger yours Greg Ross ======================================== Message Received: Oct 03 2007, 05:33 PM From: "Robin Price" To: "list Kingsclere" Cc: Subject: [King] (no subject) Hello All, I have been offered the book "Woodlands Kingsclere Story" by a UK book dealer for 45 GB POUNDS plus shipping charges. It would amount to over $100 Canadian, sounds a bit much to me, any comments welcome. Regards Robin. Researching: SEYMOUR HUSSEY WHITE SMALLBONE All Kingsclere and surounding area. _________________________________________________________________ Be seen when you can't be heard! Discover how today! http://www.freemessengeremoticons.ca/ ---------------------------------------- >From Kingsclere.If you get unsubscribed and did not ask to be unsubscribed, please contact List Admin. [email protected] ---------------------------------------- Changing your Email address, unsubscribe with your old address and Subscribe to the List with your new email address. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On Wed, 3 Oct 2007 11:32:29 -0500 Robin Price <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hello All, > > I have been offered the book "Woodlands Kingsclere Story" by a UK > book dealer for 45 GB POUNDS plus shipping charges. It would amount > to over $100 Canadian, sounds a bit much to me, any comments > welcome. Regards Robin. I used AbeBooks today to order a book on the Zulu Wars and I see they can sell you a copy for £12 +P&P so your quoted price seems OTT -- John Lewis Debian (Sid) with the GeneWeb genealogy package

They are only about £10 new. May still be available locally, used to be sold in Headley Post Office. Peter G > >-----Original Message----- > >From: [email protected] > >[mailto:[email protected]] On > >Behalf Of Robin Price > >Sent: 03 October 2007 17:32 > >To: list Kingsclere > >Subject: [King] (no subject) > > > > > > > >Hello All, > > > >I have been offered the book "Woodlands Kingsclere Story" by > >a UK book dealer for 45 GB POUNDS plus shipping charges. It > >would amount to over $100 Canadian, sounds a bit much to me, > >any comments welcome. > > > >Regards > >Robin. > > > >Researching: SEYMOUR > > HUSSEY > > WHITE > > SMALLBONE All Kingsclere and surounding > >area. > >_________________________________________________________________ > >Be seen when you can't be heard! Discover how today! > >http://www.freemessengeremoticons.ca/ > >---------------------------------------- > >>From Kingsclere.If you get unsubscribed and did not ask to be > >>unsubscribed, please contact List Admin. > >[email protected] > >---------------------------------------- > >Changing your Email address, > >unsubscribe with your old address and Subscribe to the List > >with your new email address. > >------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >[email protected] with the word > >'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > >of the message > >

I recently got one on ebay for £2.30. Think £5 to £7 would be reasonable. Roger

Hello All, I have been offered the book "Woodlands Kingsclere Story" by a UK book dealer for 45 GB POUNDS plus shipping charges. It would amount to over $100 Canadian, sounds a bit much to me, any comments welcome. Regards Robin. Researching: SEYMOUR HUSSEY WHITE SMALLBONE All Kingsclere and surounding area. _________________________________________________________________ Be seen when you can't be heard! Discover how today! http://www.freemessengeremoticons.ca/

Hello All, Re David's message to the Kingsclere List, David was subscribed to the List, he has now been unsubscribed. As you all know this List is for people to research their ancestors in the Kingsclere Registration District or linked to it. Kind regards Barbara Lewis Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants. UK [email protected] List Admin ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Griffiths Sox" <[email protected]> To: "Jonathan Sox" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; "Carolyn Williams Sheldon" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 7:31 AM Subject: [King] Williams Ancestors >I am composing a long email of my recent findings. In brief, I > discovered that our Robert and Margery Williams are very possibly > ancestral to Paul Revere's wife, and am filling out the details of > the children of Jonathan Williams I, Jon II, Jon III etc. Jon III > is > the grand nephew of Ben Franklin. I found that Robert I may have > been a Deacon in the First Church of Boston. I have found a lot of > new sources detailing the life of Eleanor Jameson Williams Baker. > One of the interesting letters from Jonathan II (Sr.) to Ben tells > thanks Ben for sending a document that we now know as the > Constitution, and describes some of Jonathan Wms' thoughts about > this > formation of our government. > > Truly, our Williams ancestors and their cousins played pivotal roles > in the early development of the United States of America. > > David > ---------------------------------------- >>From Kingsclere.If you get unsubscribed and did not ask to be >>unsubscribed, please contact List Admin. >>[email protected] > ---------------------------------------- > Changing your Email address, > unsubscribe with your old address and Subscribe to the List with > your new email address. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.32/1032 - Release Date: > 26/09/2007 20:20 > >

I am composing a long email of my recent findings. In brief, I discovered that our Robert and Margery Williams are very possibly ancestral to Paul Revere's wife, and am filling out the details of the children of Jonathan Williams I, Jon II, Jon III etc. Jon III is the grand nephew of Ben Franklin. I found that Robert I may have been a Deacon in the First Church of Boston. I have found a lot of new sources detailing the life of Eleanor Jameson Williams Baker. One of the interesting letters from Jonathan II (Sr.) to Ben tells thanks Ben for sending a document that we now know as the Constitution, and describes some of Jonathan Wms' thoughts about this formation of our government. Truly, our Williams ancestors and their cousins played pivotal roles in the early development of the United States of America. David

In article <[email protected]>, john lewis <[email protected]> writes >On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 17:40:05 +0100 >Margaret Young <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Looking at FreeBMD I have found a birth in the June quarter of 1841 >> in the Kingslere RD for Ann BRAIDMAN. >> >> Has anyone come across a baptism for this Ann as I am wondering who >> her parents were and if this is the correct spelling of her name - >> or could it be BREADMAN? > >looks like this could also be her > >Deaths Jun 1841: Breadman Ann, Kingsclere 7 71 > >as there is nothing in the 1851Census (most Breadmans seem to be in >Burghclere) > Many thanks - looks as if you are right - I wonder which branch she belonged to. I will have to see if I can find a baptism or burial for her, Margaret -- Margaret Young [email protected] Breadmore One-Name Study (GOONS 2503) http://www.breadmore.org/