On Mon, 20 Jul 2009 16:19:58 +0100 "Barbara Mallyon" <BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk> wrote: > Hello Sheila, > > Glad you liked the website. I think there must be another church in > or around East Woodhay, there were no burials for the ROSE family. Woolton Hill maybe, I think some of my rellies from Highclere ended up there. -- John Lewis Debian & the GeneWeb genealogical data server

Hello Sheila, Glad you liked the website. I think there must be another church in or around East Woodhay, there were no burials for the ROSE family. Kind regards Barbara Lewis Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants. UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk List Admin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sheila Tutton" <tutton@fishinternet.com.au> To: "Barbara Mallyon" <BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk>; <eng-hampshire-kingsclere@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 2:42 PM Subject: Re: [King] St Martin's Church in East Woodhay > Hello Barbara > > Many thanks for the web site. None of mine there but what a great > site, so > useful for the likes of me in far away places. > > Regards > Sheila > NSW

Hello Barbara Many thanks for the web site. None of mine there but what a great site, so useful for the likes of me in far away places. Regards Sheila NSW

Hello All, If you are researching in East Woodhay have you looked at the website www.stmartinschurch.hampshire.org.uk. There are many hundreds of graves in the St Martin's churchyard dating back to 1546. A full index and catalogue prepared by the East Woodhay Local History Society. Find the above in the write up and click where is says click. Kind regards Barbara Lewis Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants. UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk

Thanks Ann. Sometimes it's easy to get so blinkered, I didn't think to look outside of the county for a marriage Bob Genealogy Web Database www.bobhutchins.me.uk Bob recommends Ubuntu 9.04 - the Jaunty Jackalope O$ Ann Sargeant wrote: > From: "Bob Hutchins" <bob@bobhutchins.me.uk> > > >> Are there any Cottrell researchers on the list >> I am trying to find out which daughter of David c1800 born in Wolverton >> was the first wife of Daniel Jennings c1834 from Sherborne St John >> > > Bob > > Marriages Dec qtr 1855 Reading 2c 777 includes Daniel JENNINGS and > Rebecca Cottrell so looks extremely likely to be the one. > > Ann > > --------------------------------------- > >From Kingsclere. ALL SURNAMES IN CAPITAL LETTERS PLEASE. > --------------------------------------- > If you get unsubscribed and did not ask to be unsubscribed, please email eng-hampshire-kingsclere-admin@rootsweb.com > --------------------------------------- > Make sure your Anti Virus Protection is updated and do a weekly backup of your files. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

From: "Bob Hutchins" <bob@bobhutchins.me.uk> > Are there any Cottrell researchers on the list > I am trying to find out which daughter of David c1800 born in Wolverton > was the first wife of Daniel Jennings c1834 from Sherborne St John Bob Marriages Dec qtr 1855 Reading 2c 777 includes Daniel JENNINGS and Rebecca Cottrell so looks extremely likely to be the one. Ann

Are there any Cottrell researchers on the list I am trying to find out which daughter of David c1800 born in Wolverton was the first wife of Daniel Jennings c1834 from Sherborne St John Daniel's second wife was Emily Gardiner and they married in 1867, but census 1871 show's two older children the first being Edward Jennings born in 1859 Sherborne, who is listed in 1861 in the Household of David Caterall (Ancestry transcription) as Grandson Name Age David Catterall 60 Henry Catterall 28 Ellen Catterall 20 Edward Jennings 2 Emily Gardiner later became the second wife of William Sims ( First wife Ann Wild) from Pamber (John I will send you updates on all this when I have finished it links to the Appletons as well) Bob -- Genealogy Web Database www.bobhutchins.me.uk Bob recommends Ubuntu 9.04 - the Jaunty Jackalope O$

On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 14:39:46 +0100 Peter L Goff <peter.goff@btinternet.com> wrote: > Presumably Mary’s elder sister helped her as in the 1851 Census James > is a scholar living with his aunt Jane in North Street. 1851 Census, North Street, Kingsclere: Jane Allen, head, mar, 38, charwoman, Kingsclere James Seward, nephew, 6, scholar, Kingsclere A 25 year old Jane Seward is recorded in Itchingswell in the 1841 Census. presumably Jane Allen (Aller in transcription) was Jane Seward born 1813, Plastow Green as there is only one Jane in my database matching the ages in these Census. But who did she marry? There is nothing in the Hants Marriage Index and nothing on FreeBMD 1841 - 1851 -- John Lewis Debian & the GeneWeb genealogical data server

Well, I'll be blowed. Many thanks for that Peter. I must admit to being totally ignorant of it. Something new learned every day. James must have married for the 3rd time after Ellen Dore died in 1915 and before he died in 1921, if my research and that report are right. Where did the peice originate from, if I am not once again showing my ignorance? I must admit that although I have read it several times, Kingsley's "Water Babies" I still find hard going. Yours Vicki ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter L Goff" <peter.goff@btinternet.com> To: <eng-hampshire-kingsclere@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 2:39 PM Subject: Re: [King] James Seaward 1845 - AKA Water Baby James “Sooty” Seaward (1844-1921) Everyone in Wokingham (Berks) should know about James Seaward: the town’s first commissioned public work of art, erected in 1999 at the library entrance, is a unique sculpture to commemorate his reputation as the inspiration for Charles Kingsley’s “Tom” in the Water Babies. But there may be few folk in Kingsclere who know that he was a native of their town. James was born in 1844 at the old Workhouse on the Newbury Road, the illegitimate son of Mary Seward, a poor 18 year old. Mary was the youngest daughter of James Seward, a labourer, and his wife Elizabeth, formerly Hedgecock, both of whom had died by the time she fell pregnant. Presumably Mary’s elder sister helped her as in the 1851 Census James is a scholar living with his aunt Jane in North Street. But shortly after this he was ‘apprenticed’ to a cruel chimney sweep. Why James came to Wokingham is unknown at present (this may be revealed when a few clues have been followed up). In 1861, at only seventeen years old, he established his business here under the name Seaward, probably derived from his pronunciation, and for the next sixty years he swept the chimneys of the neighbourhood. These included those at Charles Kingsley’s Rectory at Eversley, where James related his childhood experiences to the housekeeper who in turn told her master. James married three times and had twelve children, of whom only four outlived him. However, his work extended beyond his family. In 1892 he became the first workingman elected to the Town Council. Despite initial prejudice by some councillors, his integrity and hard work resulted in his elevation to Alderman, the only Alderman who was born in a workhouse and the only one to decline to be Mayor. In addition to his council activities (which included chairmanship of the Lighting Committee), James was prominent in the local temperance movement and for many years he organised social events to raise funds for charity or to entertain and educate the poorer residents. Peter G john lewis wrote: > On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 07:00:34 +0100 > "historyresearch" <historyresearch@supanet.com> wrote: > > >> Hi all >> >> I am looking for a James Seaward - probably Seward - b Kingsclere abt >> 1845 who married (possibly his second wife) Ellen Dore 1844 >> Burghfield in the Wokingham Reg Dist in 1879. >> >> In 1881 he has children ranging from age 13 down to age 1, all born >> Wokingham, hence my thinking second marriage. In 1878 Wokingham Reg >> Ds there is a death of a 39 yr old Frances Seaward who may well be >> his first wife. James was a chimney sweep in 1881. >> >> There is a marriage in 1865 for James Seaward/Frances Smith in Henley >> Reg Dist. >> >> IGI has a James Seward 1844 son of Mary who is possibly him, but that >> leads me nowhere. >> >> Any takers for censuses please, anyone? My link at the moment is the >> Dore family. >> > > Hi Vicki > > James and Ellen are easy to find under surname SEAWARD in 1881/91 & > 1901. > > In 1851 there is this record: > > North Street, Kingsclere: > Jane Allen, head, mar, 38, charwoman, Kingsclere > James Seward, nephew, 6, scholar, Kingsclere > > I don't seem to have this Jane Allen (indexed as Aller in Census) in my > database at the moment. I suspect James may be illegitimate from that > entry and this confirms it > > St. Mary Baptism Register entry no. 1408 > 21 Aug 1844, James illegitimate son of Mary Seward, Union Workhouse, > pauper. > > I can't find James (or Jane Allen) in 1861 but in 1871 there is this > which confirms your suspicion of an earlier marriage > > Nonsuch Lane, Wokingham: > James Seaward, head, 27, chimney sweep, Kingsclere > Frances -do-, wife, 32, , Wokingham > Henry J -do-, son, 3, , Wokingham > George W -do-, son, 1, , Wokingham > James Woodford, assistant, Um 23, chimney sweep, Bristol > > The only un-married Mary Seward in 1851 Census, living in > George Street Kingsclere in parents household, is Mary Ann age 28, > dressmaker, dau of Joseph & Elizabeth. Mary Ann married Charles > Lawrence at St. Mary on 31 Mar 1857. > > This Mary Ann is almost certainly the mother of Fanny Lewis bapt 3 Dec > 1842, the entry has mother as Mary Ann Seward spinster of George > Street, Fanny was buried 29th Dec 1842 > > So unless anyone can come up with a better Mary Seward she could well > be the mother of James as well. > > I cannot find any relationship to a Jane Allen, but that may simply be > because she isn't in the database. > > --------------------------------------- >From Kingsclere. 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James “Sooty” Seaward (1844-1921) Everyone in Wokingham (Berks) should know about James Seaward: the town’s first commissioned public work of art, erected in 1999 at the library entrance, is a unique sculpture to commemorate his reputation as the inspiration for Charles Kingsley’s “Tom” in the Water Babies. But there may be few folk in Kingsclere who know that he was a native of their town. James was born in 1844 at the old Workhouse on the Newbury Road, the illegitimate son of Mary Seward, a poor 18 year old. Mary was the youngest daughter of James Seward, a labourer, and his wife Elizabeth, formerly Hedgecock, both of whom had died by the time she fell pregnant. Presumably Mary’s elder sister helped her as in the 1851 Census James is a scholar living with his aunt Jane in North Street. But shortly after this he was ‘apprenticed’ to a cruel chimney sweep. Why James came to Wokingham is unknown at present (this may be revealed when a few clues have been followed up). In 1861, at only seventeen years old, he established his business here under the name Seaward, probably derived from his pronunciation, and for the next sixty years he swept the chimneys of the neighbourhood. These included those at Charles Kingsley’s Rectory at Eversley, where James related his childhood experiences to the housekeeper who in turn told her master. James married three times and had twelve children, of whom only four outlived him. However, his work extended beyond his family. In 1892 he became the first workingman elected to the Town Council. Despite initial prejudice by some councillors, his integrity and hard work resulted in his elevation to Alderman, the only Alderman who was born in a workhouse and the only one to decline to be Mayor. In addition to his council activities (which included chairmanship of the Lighting Committee), James was prominent in the local temperance movement and for many years he organised social events to raise funds for charity or to entertain and educate the poorer residents. Peter G john lewis wrote: > On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 07:00:34 +0100 > "historyresearch" <historyresearch@supanet.com> wrote: > > >> Hi all >> >> I am looking for a James Seaward - probably Seward - b Kingsclere abt >> 1845 who married (possibly his second wife) Ellen Dore 1844 >> Burghfield in the Wokingham Reg Dist in 1879. >> >> In 1881 he has children ranging from age 13 down to age 1, all born >> Wokingham, hence my thinking second marriage. In 1878 Wokingham Reg >> Ds there is a death of a 39 yr old Frances Seaward who may well be >> his first wife. James was a chimney sweep in 1881. >> >> There is a marriage in 1865 for James Seaward/Frances Smith in Henley >> Reg Dist. >> >> IGI has a James Seward 1844 son of Mary who is possibly him, but that >> leads me nowhere. >> >> Any takers for censuses please, anyone? My link at the moment is the >> Dore family. >> > > Hi Vicki > > James and Ellen are easy to find under surname SEAWARD in 1881/91 & > 1901. > > In 1851 there is this record: > > North Street, Kingsclere: > Jane Allen, head, mar, 38, charwoman, Kingsclere > James Seward, nephew, 6, scholar, Kingsclere > > I don't seem to have this Jane Allen (indexed as Aller in Census) in my > database at the moment. I suspect James may be illegitimate from that > entry and this confirms it > > St. Mary Baptism Register entry no. 1408 > 21 Aug 1844, James illegitimate son of Mary Seward, Union Workhouse, > pauper. > > I can't find James (or Jane Allen) in 1861 but in 1871 there is this > which confirms your suspicion of an earlier marriage > > Nonsuch Lane, Wokingham: > James Seaward, head, 27, chimney sweep, Kingsclere > Frances -do-, wife, 32, , Wokingham > Henry J -do-, son, 3, , Wokingham > George W -do-, son, 1, , Wokingham > James Woodford, assistant, Um 23, chimney sweep, Bristol > > The only un-married Mary Seward in 1851 Census, living in > George Street Kingsclere in parents household, is Mary Ann age 28, > dressmaker, dau of Joseph & Elizabeth. Mary Ann married Charles > Lawrence at St. Mary on 31 Mar 1857. > > This Mary Ann is almost certainly the mother of Fanny Lewis bapt 3 Dec > 1842, the entry has mother as Mary Ann Seward spinster of George > Street, Fanny was buried 29th Dec 1842 > > So unless anyone can come up with a better Mary Seward she could well > be the mother of James as well. > > I cannot find any relationship to a Jane Allen, but that may simply be > because she isn't in the database. > >

Hello John, I will answer your messages separately. I do have the Burghfield fiche, but somehow missed the marriage of James Seaward to Ellen where it does say he was a widow. Stupid me. Trying to do too many things at once. Thanks for the offer though. >From the FreeBMD I have found a death for James in 1921 Wokingham reg dis and one for Ellen in 1915. More in a minute. Yours Vicki ----- Original Message ----- From: "john lewis" <zen57162@zen.co.uk> To: <eng-hampshire-kingsclere@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 12:34 PM Subject: Re: [King] James Seaward 1845 > Hi Vicki > > do you have these details: > > 27 Apr 1879, St. Mary, Burghfield > James Seaward/full/wid/chimney sweep/Wokingham (not known) > Ellen Dore/full/sp/-/Burghfield Thomas, gardener > Wit: Thos Dore, Mary Dore > > 29 Sep 1844, Ellen, d/o Thomas & Lucy Dore, lab 1 Sep (born) > > 3 Jul 1841, St. Mary, Burghfield > Thomas Dore/full/b/Labourer/Burghfield Joseph, Labourer > Lucy Wise/full/sp/-/Burghfield William, Labourer > Wit: Lucy Smith, Joseph Higgs > > Thomas born 1815, parents Joseph & Elizabeth > Joseph married Elizabeth Hutchins 1810 > > Joseph Dore born 1780, parents John & Dinah > John Dore married Dinah Day 1777 > > nothing earlier than the children of John & Dinah. > > I can extract fuller details for Thomas and Joseph from the Burghfield > transcript fiche if you want them, plus any siblings. > > -- > John Lewis > Debian & the GeneWeb genealogical data server > --------------------------------------- >>From Kingsclere. ALL SURNAMES IN CAPITAL LETTERS PLEASE. > --------------------------------------- > If you get unsubscribed and did not ask to be unsubscribed, please email > eng-hampshire-kingsclere-admin@rootsweb.com > --------------------------------------- > Make sure your Anti Virus Protection is updated and do a weekly backup of > your files. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-HAMPSHIRE-KINGSCLERE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 12:34:16 +0100 john lewis <zen57162@zen.co.uk> wrote: > Joseph married Elizabeth Hutchins 1810 > > Joseph Dore born 1780, parents John & Dinah > John Dore married Dinah Day 1777 PS. These are already on the website, see http://startx.co.uk:2317/Kingsclere?i=22330 -- John Lewis Debian & the GeneWeb genealogical data server

On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 07:00:34 +0100 "historyresearch" <historyresearch@supanet.com> wrote: > I am looking for a James Seaward - probably Seward - b Kingsclere abt > 1845 who married (possibly his second wife) Ellen Dore 1844 > Burghfield in the Wokingham Reg Dist in 1879. Hi Vicki do you have these details: 27 Apr 1879, St. Mary, Burghfield James Seaward/full/wid/chimney sweep/Wokingham (not known) Ellen Dore/full/sp/-/Burghfield Thomas, gardener Wit: Thos Dore, Mary Dore 29 Sep 1844, Ellen, d/o Thomas & Lucy Dore, lab 1 Sep (born) 3 Jul 1841, St. Mary, Burghfield Thomas Dore/full/b/Labourer/Burghfield Joseph, Labourer Lucy Wise/full/sp/-/Burghfield William, Labourer Wit: Lucy Smith, Joseph Higgs Thomas born 1815, parents Joseph & Elizabeth Joseph married Elizabeth Hutchins 1810 Joseph Dore born 1780, parents John & Dinah John Dore married Dinah Day 1777 nothing earlier than the children of John & Dinah. I can extract fuller details for Thomas and Joseph from the Burghfield transcript fiche if you want them, plus any siblings. -- John Lewis Debian & the GeneWeb genealogical data server

On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 07:00:34 +0100 "historyresearch" <historyresearch@supanet.com> wrote: > Hi all > > I am looking for a James Seaward - probably Seward - b Kingsclere abt > 1845 who married (possibly his second wife) Ellen Dore 1844 > Burghfield in the Wokingham Reg Dist in 1879. > > In 1881 he has children ranging from age 13 down to age 1, all born > Wokingham, hence my thinking second marriage. In 1878 Wokingham Reg > Ds there is a death of a 39 yr old Frances Seaward who may well be > his first wife. James was a chimney sweep in 1881. > > There is a marriage in 1865 for James Seaward/Frances Smith in Henley > Reg Dist. > > IGI has a James Seward 1844 son of Mary who is possibly him, but that > leads me nowhere. > > Any takers for censuses please, anyone? My link at the moment is the > Dore family. Hi Vicki James and Ellen are easy to find under surname SEAWARD in 1881/91 & 1901. In 1851 there is this record: North Street, Kingsclere: Jane Allen, head, mar, 38, charwoman, Kingsclere James Seward, nephew, 6, scholar, Kingsclere I don't seem to have this Jane Allen (indexed as Aller in Census) in my database at the moment. I suspect James may be illegitimate from that entry and this confirms it St. Mary Baptism Register entry no. 1408 21 Aug 1844, James illegitimate son of Mary Seward, Union Workhouse, pauper. I can't find James (or Jane Allen) in 1861 but in 1871 there is this which confirms your suspicion of an earlier marriage Nonsuch Lane, Wokingham: James Seaward, head, 27, chimney sweep, Kingsclere Frances -do-, wife, 32, , Wokingham Henry J -do-, son, 3, , Wokingham George W -do-, son, 1, , Wokingham James Woodford, assistant, Um 23, chimney sweep, Bristol The only un-married Mary Seward in 1851 Census, living in George Street Kingsclere in parents household, is Mary Ann age 28, dressmaker, dau of Joseph & Elizabeth. Mary Ann married Charles Lawrence at St. Mary on 31 Mar 1857. This Mary Ann is almost certainly the mother of Fanny Lewis bapt 3 Dec 1842, the entry has mother as Mary Ann Seward spinster of George Street, Fanny was buried 29th Dec 1842 So unless anyone can come up with a better Mary Seward she could well be the mother of James as well. I cannot find any relationship to a Jane Allen, but that may simply be because she isn't in the database. -- John Lewis Debian & the GeneWeb genealogical data server

Hi all I am looking for a James Seaward - probably Seward - b Kingsclere abt 1845 who married (possibly his second wife) Ellen Dore 1844 Burghfield in the Wokingham Reg Dist in 1879. In 1881 he has children ranging from age 13 down to age 1, all born Wokingham, hence my thinking second marriage. In 1878 Wokingham Reg Ds there is a death of a 39 yr old Frances Seaward who may well be his first wife. James was a chimney sweep in 1881. There is a marriage in 1865 for James Seaward/Frances Smith in Henley Reg Dist. IGI has a James Seward 1844 son of Mary who is possibly him, but that leads me nowhere. Any takers for censuses please, anyone? My link at the moment is the Dore family. Yours Vicki

Hello All, Message from the Federation of Family History Societies Closing the reading rooms on Mondays and the introduction of car parking charges are just two of the changes being proposed by the TNA. These are necessary if the current level of funding remains unchanged in cash terms for the foreseeable future, as has been the case for the past three years. On the other hand, expenses are increasing eg salaries and energy costs to name but two. Unless action is taken it will soon reach the stage where the funding is not sufficient to meet operating costs. More information can be found at www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/changes. The Monday closing is expected to save £0.5M out of the £900k that is to come from the public services part of TNA. The remainder of the £4.2M saving is to come from other areas. There are currently about 30 vacancies and these will not be filled. In addition, a further 35 jobs are expected to go. We were told that a flatter staffing structure would be introduced. There was strong feeling aroused at the first open meeting which I attended on 2 July when these proposals were explained for the first time. Since then letters of protest have appeared in The Times and The Daily Telegraph. The Independent has also publicised this. Dr. Nick Barratt is heading a campaign against the proposals and we will keep you informed of progress. Kind regards Barbara Lewis Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants. UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk List admin

On Fri, 10 Jul 2009 20:36:00 +0100 "John Newport" <john.newport1@ntlworld.com> wrote: > The story is that I have been trying to find a man named a James > ASLETT, for many, many years. He was, according to my grandmother's > marriage certificate, her father (deceased) but, on her birth > certificate (dated 1873), where the father's name should be, was a > long, black line. That seemed ominous but not definite! > > I obtained the marriage certificate of James ASLETT to Harriet PARR, > in 1864. James's father, it said, was a Peter ASLETT and the only > Peter ASLETT, I was able to find, was one on the IGI and the same one > on the censuses. He, apparently, came from Farnham, and married a > Hannah JEFFERY, on the 7th July 1823, at Kingsclere, Hampshire (from > the IGI on-line). Hannah JEFFERY's parents, also, came from > Kingsclere so I thought it wouldn't hurt to join the group and ask > questions. > > None of this proved that this Peter was my ancestor but it was > somewhere to start. > > I asked my question and a Dorothy Jones (I hope she doesn't mind my > telling her name!) gave me a great deal of help and came up with the > 1871 census, which showed Harriet ASLETT (nee Parr - checked) as a > widow, and, then, I found I already had a copy of the same document, > which I'd forgotten. > > It's quite obvious that, if James died in 1866, my grandmother, born > in 1873, just couldn't be his daughter. Though my great grandmother > married James ASLETT, he is not, unfortunately, an ancestor of mine - > any more than the man she married many years later, in 1876. Neither > of these can I claim a relationship with and it would be misleading > to do so. My own researches into this do seem to confirm what John says A James Aslett married Harriet Elizabeth Parr, Sep Qtr 1864, Mile End RD There is no sign of James in 1871 but Harriet is in Poplar. I cannot find a death on FreeBMD for James that I am happy with in 1866 as this one:- Deaths Dec 1866: Aslett James, 47, Farnham 2a 59 would make him born ca1819 whereas the records for James son of Peter and Hannah make him born ca1833 in Farnham. 1871 Census, Sarah Street, Poplar: Harriet Aslett, visitor, wid, 33, gen servant, Exning Suffolk Births Sep 1873: ASLETT Emily Harriet, Poplar 1c 609 It is this birth which has no father recorded on the birth cert, she is listed on John's online family tree as a grandparent Harriet Aslett married Alfred Powell, Sep Qtr 1876, IOW RD 1881 Census, has Alfred & Harriet living in Devonshire Terrace, Shanklin, IOW Alfred died Jun Qtr 1882 IOW 1891 Census, Exning, Suffolk: William Parr, head, 75, farm lab, Exning Sarah -do-. wife, 76, , Soham Cambs Harriet Powell, dau, wid, 50, nurse, Exning I haven't attempted to trace Harriet any further than this, if Harriet was a widow as recorded in the 1871 Census then James could not be the father of Emily Harriet and it is very unlikely that Alfred Powell was as he was living in Shanklin in 1871. The 1871 census, when she was a visitor in household of Alfred and Susannah Thompson, gives no clues other than that Susannah may be a sister as she too was born in Exning. I haven't found Emily Harriet Aslett in the 1881 Census but John has her marrying a John James Newport in 1890 in Cambridge. This would make her age only 17 and this is in fact the age given for her in the 1891 Census when she is recorded as the dau-in-law of George Newport who has a son John J age 23. all in all a useful exercise and I have added to the existing (H)Aslet(t)s in my database as well -- John Lewis Debian & the GeneWeb genealogical data server

On Sat, 11 Jul 2009 18:46:27 EDT DEBBIEKENNETT@aol.com wrote: > Facebook already has 200 million plus members. A dedicated genealogy > social networking site will never reach quite the same dizzy heights > but could potentially grow to be very large, reaching millions of > people. This is an opportunity to embrace the new technology and get > it to work to our advantage. Speaking purely personally I have no intention of joining _any_ "social networking" site. Lots of this so called new technology is a fashion trend and could die just as quickly as it has grown. I am quite happy with the old technology of mailing lists. -- John Lewis Debian & the GeneWeb genealogical data server

Barbara I am sorry if I have caused any offence. I think however you have perhaps misunderstood my intentions and the purpose of the new website. Genealogy Wise is a social networking website not a mailing list. It is not in competition with the Kingsclere list as it works in a completely different way. I viewed it as a way of promoting the list and bringing in new researchers who might not otherwise have considered joining. It is also a good way of promoting the various local family history societies. Have a look at the list I have set up for Devon: http://www.genealogywise.com/group/devon As you will see I've added links to the Devon Roots web list and to the Devon Family History Society amongst others. I've started to set up some surname groups and am including links wherever possible to the relevant Rootsweb mailing lists and message boards. Similarly there is also a Hampshire group: http://www.genealogywise.com/group/hampshiregenealogy The Genealogy Wise website is due to be launched on 17th July and will no doubt receive extensive press coverage. My intention of posting to the list was to give people the opportunity to set up a pre-emptive group before the launch and perhaps if they are interested to set up groups for the surnames they are interested in. If someone on the list doesn't set up a group you can guarantee that someone else will do so. There is already a Genealogy Wise administrator going through the alphabet setting up surname groups and she is now up to the letter C. If the early days are anything to go by this website has the potential to be really huge. It has the potential to bring in people who hadn't previously considered using a mailing list or joining a family history society. Facebook already has 200 million plus members. A dedicated genealogy social networking site will never reach quite the same dizzy heights but could potentially grow to be very large, reaching millions of people. This is an opportunity to embrace the new technology and get it to work to our advantage. Kind regards Debbie Kennett

On Fri, 10 Jul 2009 20:36:00 +0100 "John Newport" <john.newport1@ntlworld.com> wrote: > I obtained the marriage certificate of James ASLETT to Harriet PARR, > in 1864. James's father, it said, was a Peter ASLETT and the only > Peter ASLETT, I was able to find, was one on the IGI and the same one > on the censuses. He, apparently, came from Farnham, and married a > Hannah JEFFERY, on the 7th July 1823, at Kingsclere, Hampshire (from > the IGI on-line). Hannah JEFFERY's parents, also, came from > Kingsclere so I thought it wouldn't hurt to join the group and ask > questions. Hannah Jeffery did indeed marry Peter (H)Aslett at St. Mary on 7 July 1823, register entry 186 with witnesses William Smith & Hannah Hutchings Peter Haslett was born in Basingstoke and baptised there on 12 Sept 1802, son of James and Elizabeth Minchin who married at Basingstoke on 1 Oct 1801. I found 3 more children born in B'stoke, one recorded with surname as Aslett Hannah Jeffery, spinster of Ashford Hill had an illegitimate son, Joseph, bapt at St Mary on 27 Apr 1823 entry 820. there is a second entry in baptism register dated 11 May (entry 824) for Joseph illegitmate son of Hannah Jeffrey, spinster of Ashford Hill The first entry has 'J Holding officiating minister' and the second Thos Nichols as performing the ceremony, otherwise details are the same Given the closeness of the baptism and marriage I think it highly likely Peter Aslett was the father. I eventually found the baptism for Hannah Jeffery daughter of Thomas & Mary of Fair Oak on 3 Apr 1803 (I had been led astray by the Hants Bapt Index which had the name as Thomas) Thomas Jeffery was a son of Jacob & Grace (Moore) who married at St. Mary on 15 May 1744, both were of Kingsclere Parish. I don't currently have anything earlier although various entries do suggest Jeffery connections to Kingsclere back as early as 1606 with the burial of a Joan Jefferies, widow So far so good, my next job is to trace the sons of Peter and Hannah through the census entries -- John Lewis Debian & the GeneWeb genealogical data server