Not sure Bev but I think you will find that during Wartime a lot of the sailors hats had HM Destroyers, HM Submarines etc meaning they were posted to destroyers or submarines. Not necessarily that there were ships of those names which as far as I know there weren't. The Same with the Marines men serving with the marines would have HM Marines on their hats. The name of their ship would not have been on the hatband. I think that is the case, if not somebody with more sea knowledge will correct me I'm sure. Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bev Wadhams" <Bev.Wadhams@tesco.net> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 12:18 AM Subject: [ENG-HANTS] Navy ship HMS Destroyer? > Looking at some old photographs earlier I discovered that you could with a > bit of enhancement see some writing on the sailors hat bands at a family > wedding. > > One of the hat's writing reads HM Destroyer the other --------Marines. > > Was there actually a ship called HMS Destroyer or is the rest of the > inscription on the back of the hat? > > Would a hat actually of said HM Marines or again would the inscription > carry > on round the hat band. > > Any ideas? I tried a Google search but didn't get anywhere much, they > mostly seem to be HM destroyer ..........? > > Thanks > Bev > > > > > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > >

I have seen lots of war time sailors photos and most just have HMS on the hat band. Sandra Chris and Caroline wrote: > Not sure Bev but I think you will find that during Wartime a lot of > the sailors hats had HM Destroyers, HM Submarines etc meaning they > were posted to destroyers or submarines. Not necessarily that there > were ships of those names which as far as I know there weren't. > The Same with the Marines men serving with the marines would have HM > Marines on their hats. The name of their ship would not have been on > the hatband. > I think that is the case, if not somebody with more sea knowledge will > correct me I'm sure. > Chris > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bev Wadhams" <Bev.Wadhams@tesco.net> > To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 12:18 AM > Subject: [ENG-HANTS] Navy ship HMS Destroyer? > > >> Looking at some old photographs earlier I discovered that you could >> with a >> bit of enhancement see some writing on the sailors hat bands at a family >> wedding. >> >> One of the hat's writing reads HM Destroyer the other --------Marines. >> >> Was there actually a ship called HMS Destroyer or is the rest of the >> inscription on the back of the hat? >> >> Would a hat actually of said HM Marines or again would the >> inscription carry >> on round the hat band. >> >> Any ideas? I tried a Google search but didn't get anywhere much, they >> mostly seem to be HM destroyer ..........? >> >> Thanks >> Bev >> >> >> >> >> >> ============================== >> Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. >> New content added every business day. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx >> >> > > > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > >

The Listowner lurches from his slumbers yet again - twice in a year! Psst! Careless talk costs lives..... The names of ships on hat-bands were a give-away to any spies lurking around sea-ports and dock-yards, so "their Lordships" in the Admiralty together with the Ministry for War, decided it would be prudent to remove the ship's name and replace it with something more generic. At least this way the amassing of seamen would not reveal which specific ships were about to sail and hence alert the enemy. HTH Nigel > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris and Caroline [mailto:chris@chayles.freeserve.co.uk] > Sent: 11 October 2005 00:31 > To: ENG-HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ENG-HANTS] Navy ship HMS Destroyer? > > Not sure Bev but I think you will find that during Wartime a > lot of the sailors hats had HM Destroyers, HM Submarines etc > meaning they were posted to destroyers or submarines. Not > necessarily that there were ships of those names which as far > as I know there weren't. > The Same with the Marines men serving with the marines would > have HM Marines on their hats. The name of their ship would > not have been on the hatband. > I think that is the case, if not somebody with more sea > knowledge will correct me I'm sure. > Chris > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bev Wadhams" <Bev.Wadhams@tesco.net> > To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 12:18 AM > Subject: [ENG-HANTS] Navy ship HMS Destroyer? > > > > Looking at some old photographs earlier I discovered that > you could with a > > bit of enhancement see some writing on the sailors hat > bands at a family > > wedding. > > > > One of the hat's writing reads HM Destroyer the other > --------Marines. > > > > Was there actually a ship called HMS Destroyer or is the rest of the > > inscription on the back of the hat? > > > > Would a hat actually of said HM Marines or again would the > inscription > > carry > > on round the hat band. > > > > Any ideas? I tried a Google search but didn't get anywhere > much, they > > mostly seem to be HM destroyer ..........? > > > > Thanks > > Bev > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > > New content added every business day. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.13/126 - Release > Date: 09/10/2005 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.13/126 - Release Date: 09/10/2005