Hello Ann in Australia Thank you very much for your reply and your kind remarks about the beautiful Canadian province in which I have the good fortune to live. This is the time of year when our rivers turn red with salmon returning to spawn. It is poignant to see them battle their way back to the place of their birth and know that, in order to become fertile, their internal organs are breaking down as they swim towards their destiny - "they die so that they may live". Thank you also for adding my Robert Chandler to your Blacksmiths Index, which I have looked at and found interesting and informative. Best wishes Dick Chandler in Salmon Arm, British Columbia, Canada -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.3/107 - Release Date: 20/09/2005