Hi Alan Siddorn, I'm curious about this PORTSMOUTH NAVAL MEMORIAL.........Is it by chance in PORTSEA? If so, can you tell me if there are any WILSON's on this list? My ancestors were in that area at the Dockyards. A number of these families lost their men to BERMUDA to build our Dockyards. Or I should say the convicts came here and the soldiers came to watch over them. Hope to hear from you. Judy (aka Serendipity) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Siddorn" <alan@siddorn.fsbusiness.co.uk> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 4:48 PM Subject: [ENG-HANTS] Pops Waltham > My great grandfather James Thomas GARDNER appears on the Portsmouth Naval > Memorial with the following details on the CWGC site: > In Memory of Able Seaman JAMES THOMAS GARDNER 123062, H.M.S. "Bulwark.", > Royal Navy who died age 46 on 26 November 1914 Son of the late Thomas and > May Gardner, of Soberton, Hants.; husband of Bertha Gardner, of 16, Albert > Drive, Carrickfergus, Co. Antrim, late of Hill Pound, Swanmore, nr. Pops > Waltham, Hants. Remembered with honour PORTSMOUTH NAVAL MEMORIAL > My confusion arises from the address of Hill Pound, Swanmore, nr Pops > Waltham, Hants. I know that Hill Pound, Swanmore is indeed the correct > family address for his wife Bertha GARDNER (nee EARWAKER) but would Pops > Waltham be an erroneous entry for Bishops Waltham or is Pops Waltham > another location entirely? Perhaps some local variation that a northerner > like myself would be unaware of. > Alan Siddorn, > Irby, Wirral. > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

Hi Judy This is a large and imposing memorial on Southsea Common, which lists all the men from Royal Naval ships based at Portsmouth who were lost in the two World Wars. There is a similar one on Plymouth Hoe in Plymouth, relating to sailors from Devonport ships. You can find out if any Wilsons are on the memorial by using the Commonwealth War Graves Commission web site, but I suspect your interest is in events long before the twentieth century wars commemorated there. Cheers, Dave Jacobs At 21:29 12/09/2005, you wrote: >Hi Alan Siddorn, I'm curious about this PORTSMOUTH NAVAL >MEMORIAL.........Is it by chance in PORTSEA? >If so, can you tell me if there are any WILSON's on this list? >My ancestors were in that area at the Dockyards. A number of these >families lost their men to BERMUDA to build our Dockyards. >Or I should say the convicts came here and the soldiers came to watch over >them. >Hope to hear from you. >Judy (aka Serendipity) > >----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Siddorn" ><alan@siddorn.fsbusiness.co.uk> >To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 4:48 PM >Subject: [ENG-HANTS] Pops Waltham > > >>My great grandfather James Thomas GARDNER appears on the Portsmouth Naval >>Memorial with the following details on the CWGC site: >>In Memory of Able Seaman JAMES THOMAS GARDNER 123062, H.M.S. "Bulwark.", >>Royal Navy who died age 46 on 26 November 1914 Son of the late Thomas and >>May Gardner, of Soberton, Hants.; husband of Bertha Gardner, of 16, >>Albert Drive, Carrickfergus, Co. Antrim, late of Hill Pound, Swanmore, >>nr. Pops Waltham, Hants. Remembered with honour PORTSMOUTH NAVAL MEMORIAL >>My confusion arises from the address of Hill Pound, Swanmore, nr Pops >>Waltham, Hants. I know that Hill Pound, Swanmore is indeed the correct >>family address for his wife Bertha GARDNER (nee EARWAKER) but would Pops >>Waltham be an erroneous entry for Bishops Waltham or is Pops Waltham >>another location entirely? Perhaps some local variation that a >>northerner like myself would be unaware of. >>Alan Siddorn, >>Irby, Wirral. >> >> >>============================== >>Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >>areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >>Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > >============================== >Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > " Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it. -Mark Twain, author and humorist (1835-1910) Fashion is something barbarous, for it produces innovation without reason and imitation without benefit. -George Santayana, philosopher (1863-1952)

Thanks Dave for your reply. Cheers, Judy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Jacobs" <dave@jacobs.net> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 6:25 PM Subject: [ENG-HANTS] Portsmouth Naval Memorial > Hi Judy > > This is a large and imposing memorial on Southsea Common, which lists all > the men from Royal Naval ships based at Portsmouth who were lost in the > two World Wars. > There is a similar one on Plymouth Hoe in Plymouth, relating to sailors > from Devonport ships. > You can find out if any Wilsons are on the memorial by using the > Commonwealth War Graves Commission web site, but I suspect your interest > is in events long before the twentieth century wars commemorated there. > > Cheers, Dave Jacobs > > At 21:29 12/09/2005, you wrote: >>Hi Alan Siddorn, I'm curious about this PORTSMOUTH NAVAL >>MEMORIAL.........Is it by chance in PORTSEA? >>If so, can you tell me if there are any WILSON's on this list? >>My ancestors were in that area at the Dockyards. A number of these >>families lost their men to BERMUDA to build our Dockyards. >>Or I should say the convicts came here and the soldiers came to watch over >>them. >>Hope to hear from you. >>Judy (aka Serendipity) >> >>----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Siddorn" >><alan@siddorn.fsbusiness.co.uk> >>To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> >>Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 4:48 PM >>Subject: [ENG-HANTS] Pops Waltham >> >> >>>My great grandfather James Thomas GARDNER appears on the Portsmouth Naval >>>Memorial with the following details on the CWGC site: >>>In Memory of Able Seaman JAMES THOMAS GARDNER 123062, H.M.S. "Bulwark.", >>>Royal Navy who died age 46 on 26 November 1914 Son of the late Thomas and >>>May Gardner, of Soberton, Hants.; husband of Bertha Gardner, of 16, >>>Albert Drive, Carrickfergus, Co. Antrim, late of Hill Pound, Swanmore, >>>nr. Pops Waltham, Hants. Remembered with honour PORTSMOUTH NAVAL MEMORIAL >>>My confusion arises from the address of Hill Pound, Swanmore, nr Pops >>>Waltham, Hants. I know that Hill Pound, Swanmore is indeed the correct >>>family address for his wife Bertha GARDNER (nee EARWAKER) but would Pops >>>Waltham be an erroneous entry for Bishops Waltham or is Pops Waltham >>>another location entirely? Perhaps some local variation that a >>>northerner like myself would be unaware of. >>>Alan Siddorn, >>>Irby, Wirral. >>> >>> >>>============================== >>>Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >>>areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >>>Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >> >> >> >>============================== >>Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >>last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >>http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >> > > " > Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are > putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it. -Mark Twain, author and > humorist (1835-1910) > > Fashion is something barbarous, for it produces innovation without reason > and imitation without benefit. -George Santayana, philosopher (1863-1952) > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx