In a message dated 01/08/2005 10:52:08 GMT Daylight Time, bob.newell@ntlworld.com writes: I think we have spoken before but here goes. My Newels in Hampshire are Stephen and wife Mary BOXALL and family through to my Grandfather Henry and Sarah Eliz WATERS. Surrey was Stephen for a while and his father James. any of these interest you let me know and I will give more details Bob Newell Bob, We have indeed been in touch earlier. Once in a while out of sheer frustration at my own lack of progress I try reposting and keep my fingers crossed. I'll contact you off list with an update on my tree. Thanks for responding. paul