On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 13:28:22 -0400 "Carole Cumber" <[email protected]> wrote: Hello Carole, > wife and children and says born Portsea. His marriage license gives > no fathers name so I am still trying to find out if he was Robert and > Sophia YELF's son??? Is there another way of determining this??? If there's no father's name on the marriage certificate, you need to check birth details. Since Robert was born ca 1811, that will be PR's. Specifically, baptismal records. If there's no father there, you might find him listed as base born, natural, or one of many other euphemisms for an illegitimate child. If you're lucky, that might have been a bastardy order against the putative father. > Should I assume that because he was with Robert and Sophia in 1841 > that this is the case??? If anyone else has ever run into this same Certainly not. He /could/ be Robert's father, but equally, he might not be. Remember the old adage; A mother is matter of fact. A father is a matter of faith. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" No guarantee the stimuli must be perceived the same... Gary Gilmore's Eyes - The Adverts