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    1. Re: [ENG-HANTS] Birth Certificate
    2. Charani
    3. Margot Avey wrote: > Is there an online listing of illegitimate births for 1866? The birth in > question is Julia Emily Griffin. All the rest of her siblings were born in > Winchester in the Worthys. Her mother may have been either Mary Anne or Jane > Griffin both born in Winchester. Father is unknown. In fact she is a bit of > a conundrum as there is so much fluxuation regarding her birth. She was > actually born in London (Islington) in 1866 and not Hampshire. The > registration detail per FreeBMD is Julia E Griffin Mar 1866, Islington 1b > 294. In the 1871 census she is shown as Eliza Julia born 1866, the > granddaughter of George and Sophia. In the 1881 census she is shown as > Julia E born 1863, the sister of Thomas Griffin. As she is my great > grandmother, I would like to know more about her!!! There is no separate listing of illegitimate births for any year. They are included in the normal GRO indices with no indication given whether they are illegitimate or not. Once the DoVE Project comes online next year, that may give a suggestion as to whether a child is illegitimate or not (the mother's maiden name being the same as the child's) but that is only effective for the more unusual names. With names like SMITH, JONES, BROWN, it won't help. I'd suggest first of all getting the birth certificate to see who her mother was and whether she really was illegitimate. It might also be an idea to have a look to see who George and Sophia's children were. -- Charani (UK)

    03/22/2007 02:28:38
    1. Re: [ENG-HANTS] Birth Certificate
    2. Margot Avey
    3. Thank you Charani! I have looked at the other children of George and Sophia - Julia E. is listed as the last in the group, but her birth "doesn't jive". Mary Anne and Jane Griffin were the first two sisters born and that is what leads me to believe she could be one of theirs. All the rest of the siblings were born in Hampshire. Margot On 3/22/07 3:28 PM, "Charani" <[email protected]> wrote: > Margot Avey wrote: > >> Is there an online listing of illegitimate births for 1866? The birth in >> question is Julia Emily Griffin. All the rest of her siblings were born in >> Winchester in the Worthys. Her mother may have been either Mary Anne or Jane >> Griffin both born in Winchester. Father is unknown. In fact she is a bit of >> a conundrum as there is so much fluxuation regarding her birth. She was >> actually born in London (Islington) in 1866 and not Hampshire. The >> registration detail per FreeBMD is Julia E Griffin Mar 1866, Islington 1b >> 294. In the 1871 census she is shown as Eliza Julia born 1866, the >> granddaughter of George and Sophia. In the 1881 census she is shown as >> Julia E born 1863, the sister of Thomas Griffin. As she is my great >> grandmother, I would like to know more about her!!! > > There is no separate listing of illegitimate births for any year. > They are included in the normal GRO indices with no indication given > whether they are illegitimate or not. > > Once the DoVE Project comes online next year, that may give a > suggestion as to whether a child is illegitimate or not (the mother's > maiden name being the same as the child's) but that is only effective > for the more unusual names. With names like SMITH, JONES, BROWN, it > won't help. > > I'd suggest first of all getting the birth certificate to see who her > mother was and whether she really was illegitimate. It might also be > an idea to have a look to see who George and Sophia's children were. --- http://USFamily.Net/dialup.html - $8.25/mo! -- http://www.usfamily.net/dsl.html - $19.99/mo! ---

    03/22/2007 11:19:35