There seems to be some confusion over the differences between wattle and daub and cob, and how they were used. Wattle and daub, was used to fill in between the wooden framework in timber framed houses. Made from straw, cow manure and clay, daub, in its raw state is is like a thick plaster with bits in it. Wattle is rather like hurdles (usually made from woven willow withies) of wood that were fixed between the timber uprights of the house framing. Daub was applied to the wattle, but they usually left the timber structural beams exposed, which is all we now see of the frame in timber framed houses. To a degree it remained flexible and moved with the timber. Cob is a similar building material to daub, but used in a different way. It was made from crushed chalk or clay, straw, sand and water and In Hampshire,it seems, chalk was used extensively. The mix was formed into large lumps or 'cobs'. They are pressed together to make thick, self-supporting walls. You can usually tell a cob built house as all the corners are rounded, and the walls are much thicker that those of timber framed houses, simply because they did not have any supporting structure. Cob sets to form a hard and durable wall, but can be easily eroded if not covered with a impermeable roof, usually of thatch Cob houses usually have an extened or exagerated roof to protect the house from driven rain. Cob walls were usually thatched for the same reason. There is a good example of a cob wall between Winchester and Romsey, that has now been tiled, but in my youth it had a thatched top. My favourite Hampshire building material is brick and flint; they complement each other beautifully. Reading through the pages of Hampshire County Council's section 'Hampshire Treasures' there are descriptions of all the different building forms used in the past. www.hants.gov.uk/hampshiretreasures/ Moya Page, researching BANTING/BANTEN/BANTUM - One Name Study GOONS # 4570

Oh I better start building then.... Thanks, Edna - Ottawa ----- Original Message ----- From: "M. Page" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 2:28 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-HANTS] Village website updates - Longstock There seems to be some confusion over the differences between wattle and daub and cob, and how they were used. Wattle and daub, was used to fill in between the wooden framework in timber framed houses. Made from straw, cow manure and clay, daub, in its raw state is is like a thick plaster with bits in it. Wattle is rather like hurdles (usually made from woven willow withies) of wood that were fixed between the timber uprights of the house framing. Daub was applied to the wattle, but they usually left the timber structural beams exposed, which is all we now see of the frame in timber framed houses. To a degree it remained flexible and moved with the timber. Cob is a similar building material to daub, but used in a different way. It was made from crushed chalk or clay, straw, sand and water and In Hampshire,it seems, chalk was used extensively. The mix was formed into large lumps or 'cobs'. They are pressed together to make thick, self-supporting walls. You can usually tell a cob built house as all the corners are rounded, and the walls are much thicker that those of timber framed houses, simply because they did not have any supporting structure. Cob sets to form a hard and durable wall, but can be easily eroded if not covered with a impermeable roof, usually of thatch Cob houses usually have an extened or exagerated roof to protect the house from driven rain. Cob walls were usually thatched for the same reason. There is a good example of a cob wall between Winchester and Romsey, that has now been tiled, but in my youth it had a thatched top. My favourite Hampshire building material is brick and flint; they complement each other beautifully. Reading through the pages of Hampshire County Council's section 'Hampshire Treasures' there are descriptions of all the different building forms used in the past. www.hants.gov.uk/hampshiretreasures/ Moya Page, researching BANTING/BANTEN/BANTUM - One Name Study GOONS # 4570 ............................................. Want to contact the local community? Please visit Hampshire Parish Jottings http://hants.parishjottings.org.uk ............................................. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

No confusion here Moya, as daub was usually mud mixed with straw and water and 'daubed' onto a wattle screen and allowed to dry thus a panel was made. Whereas cob was usually a stone like mixture ( I did put stone on the previous mail by mistake) and a couple of cottages one in particular in Middle Wallop has cob with daub and wattle panels in front. As I said the daub and wattle was a better insulator than cob and this is what has been done here. There are one or two of these cottages in the county but they are very rare as most just use one or the other. Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: "M. Page" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 7:28 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-HANTS] Village website updates - Longstock There seems to be some confusion over the differences between wattle and daub and cob, and how they were used. Wattle and daub, was used to fill in between the wooden framework in timber framed houses. Made from straw, cow manure and clay, daub, in its raw state is is like a thick plaster with bits in it. Wattle is rather like hurdles (usually made from woven willow withies) of wood that were fixed between the timber uprights of the house framing. Daub was applied to the wattle, but they usually left the timber structural beams exposed, which is all we now see of the frame in timber framed houses. To a degree it remained flexible and moved with the timber. Cob is a similar building material to daub, but used in a different way. It was made from crushed chalk or clay, straw, sand and water and In Hampshire,it seems, chalk was used extensively. The mix was formed into large lumps or 'cobs'. They are pressed together to make thick, self-supporting walls. You can usually tell a cob built house as all the corners are rounded, and the walls are much thicker that those of timber framed houses, simply because they did not have any supporting structure. Cob sets to form a hard and durable wall, but can be easily eroded if not covered with a impermeable roof, usually of thatch Cob houses usually have an extened or exagerated roof to protect the house from driven rain. Cob walls were usually thatched for the same reason. There is a good example of a cob wall between Winchester and Romsey, that has now been tiled, but in my youth it had a thatched top. My favourite Hampshire building material is brick and flint; they complement each other beautifully. Reading through the pages of Hampshire County Council's section 'Hampshire Treasures' there are descriptions of all the different building forms used in the past. www.hants.gov.uk/hampshiretreasures/ Moya Page, researching BANTING/BANTEN/BANTUM - One Name Study GOONS # 4570

There is a good example of a cob wall between Winchester and Romsey, that has now been tiled, but in my youth it had a thatched top. Moya, Whereabouts is this? I can't place it. Regards, John Parker Romsey ________________________________________________________________________ Get a FREE AOL Email account with 2GB of storage. Plus, share and store photos and experience exclusively recorded live music Sessions from your favourite artists. Find out more at http://info.aol.co.uk/joinnow/?ncid=548.