Sorry folks I gave you some duff gen last night, then the form you need is not the SAR one but the "COK for the army" one (for ATS) Here the link to the page with the relevant details and pdf download for the form... For Army Relatives and "Army Certificate of Kinship" see this page... http://www.veterans-uk.info/service_records/army.html (Information) or this link http://www.veterans-uk.info/pdfs/service_records/army_kinship.pd f for the "ARMY Certificate of Kinship" Appologies for any inconvenience Chris SOUTHERN LIFE(UK) History of the villages of Hampshire, Dorset and the Isle of Wight http://southernlife.org.uk