On Tue, 13 Jan 2009 08:42:18 EST JohnASaul@aol.com wrote: Hello JohnASaul@aol.com, > Just wondering if anyone can advise how to search, please. I cannot > find my grandmother, her brothers, and their parents under Knight. I > cannot search Stick a comma in the surname box. It's reported elsewhere that it works. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" You never listen to a word that I said Public Image - Public Image Ltd

Took some searching for my Ann Dean - finally found her as Ann Vean. Cheers, Rose

I'd downloaded images of about 50% of my family (including all Hampshire ones) before the New Year when the Beta site was operating. Have now done nearly about 90% (immediately logged on when I got the email yesterday from 1911census mailing list and before midnight UK time too so it wasn't 'tomorrow' yet in the UK). When I look back to 1982, 1992 and even 2002 for how long it took to research all my ancestors on the census I'm amazed at how quick and painless it has been this time. Even the cost compares favourably to what I had to pay in mileage to and from the LDS family history centre plus cost of ordering in films/fiche (for earlier census)and the time spent trawling through them. No indexes in those days. People just starting their research now don't know how lucky they are :-) Regards Valerie Researching in Hampshire CUMMINS, COLE, BUSHELL, TUBB, PICKERNELL, WATTS, RUMBOLD, EWINS, VOKES, GODDARD, HAY, WEDGE, TOLFREE, POYNTER, THUMWOOD, NASH, CASE, CAREY, LAWRENCE, RICKETTS, REINARD, RUSSELL, PURCHELL, SMALL, YATES

David Blake wrote: > I have found that if you don't know a surname, just using a comma > in the surname field works. That's a handy tip. Thanks :))

As Carol says, using the comma can also get around transcription errors and problems such as changes in name after marriage. Searching for the first name, with comma in the surname field and other things such as date of birth or place of birth, will help you uncover all sorts of things which you couldn't otherwise find. David ________________________________ From: "JohnASaul@aol.com" <JohnASaul@aol.com> To: eng-hampshire@rootsweb.com Cc: dsblake2004@yahoo.co.uk Sent: Wednesday, 14 January, 2009 8:45:58 Subject: Re: [ENG-HANTS] Searching without a surname on 1911 census - thanks In a message dated 14/01/2009 08:19:39 GMT Standard Time, dsblake2004@yahoo.co.uk writes: I have found that if you don't know a surname, just using a comma in the surname field works. Thank you so much for this great tip. Finally found my KNIGHT family as KNIGTH. Carol

Is there a problem with the rootsweb.com email system? I sent the message to which Carol has responded but didn't receive it myself. Does the system not send you messages which you yourself have sent? Let's see what happens with this one... David ________________________________ From: "JohnASaul@aol.com" <JohnASaul@aol.com> To: eng-hampshire@rootsweb.com Cc: dsblake2004@yahoo.co.uk Sent: Wednesday, 14 January, 2009 8:45:58 Subject: Re: [ENG-HANTS] Searching without a surname on 1911 census - thanks In a message dated 14/01/2009 08:19:39 GMT Standard Time, dsblake2004@yahoo.co.uk writes: I have found that if you don't know a surname, just using a comma in the surname field works. Thank you so much for this great tip. Finally found my KNIGHT family as KNIGTH. Carol

I have found that if you don't know a surname, just using a comma in the surname field works. David

In a message dated 14/01/2009 08:19:39 GMT Standard Time, dsblake2004@yahoo.co.uk writes: I have found that if you don't know a surname, just using a comma in the surname field works. Thank you so much for this great tip. Finally found my KNIGHT family as KNIGTH. Carol

I am pleased I am not the only one with a gripe about the cost of the 1911 census. But be warned, it is not just transcription errors you have to contend with, the number of typos is horrific. Obviously no double keying checks have been made. Just some examples from my research in the short time the census has been available Tohmas for Thomas Edtih for Edith Willaim for William Williams for William S Calara for Clara Arthu for Arthur Henrys for Henry S Ch STCHELL for Chrystchell So if you are looking for Knight - also try swapping some of the letters around!!! Kinght, Knihgt etc. Regards Sandra ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stuart Morgan" <stuart@tase.co.uk> To: <eng-hampshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 2:48 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-HANTS] 1911 census - help with lateral thinking! On Tuesday 13 January 2009 14:26:22 Dorothy Spence wrote: > ............I have had a happy day searching it with success, but am > horrified as onvirtually every page I purchased there were major errors... > there is afacility for reporting them... so far I have made about ten > reports.There are going to be some very frustrated and unhappy searchers > I > think.My Macaulays became McCanleys, Hunns became Hulmes, my thirty year > oldGrandad became 50 years old. Some of the errors wereunforgivable as the > census entrys were extremely clear..... Hi all, After my disappointment at the inflated prices they are charging*, the news that the quality of the transcriptions and indexes isn't very good just leaves a bitter taste. * 4.5x the launch prices for the 1901 with Qinetic. Images in the 1901 census were 75p, in the 1911 they are £3.50 each and that's even with information obscured. Guess I'll vote with my feet and either spend a few days in London, or wait for some competition to come along in a year or two. (Ancestry, GS?) -- Stuart Morgan ............................................. Want to contact the local community? Please visit Hampshire Parish Jottings http://hants.parishjottings.org.uk ............................................. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-HAMPSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _______________________________________ No viruses found in this incoming message Scanned by iolo AntiVirus 1.5.6.3 http://www.iolo.com _______________________________________ No viruses found in this outgoing message Scanned by iolo AntiVirus 1.5.6.3 http://www.iolo.com

It's worth keeping an eye on this page http://blog.1911census.co.uk/ as this is where they are posting official information about the site. They have disabled many of the search functions until they are happy that the site is going to cope with the amount of traffic (See about half way down the blog) My particular grouse, at the moment, is that there is no way of searching for anyone with a hyphenated surname. If you enter two names separated by a hyphen in the surname field, the search engine removes the hyphen and so doesn't find a match with the transcriptions. Obviously, once the search allows parts of a surname or a wildcard then I'll be able to carry out the search. I'll just have to be patient, but it's frustrating when both my, and my husband's, mothers have double barrelled surnames. Patience is a virtue!!! Kate in Devon, UK

On Tuesday 13 January 2009 14:26:22 Dorothy Spence wrote: > ............I have had a happy day searching it with success, but am > horrified as onvirtually every page I purchased there were major errors... > there is afacility for reporting them... so far I have made about ten > reports.There are going to be some very frustrated and unhappy searchers I > think.My Macaulays became McCanleys, Hunns became Hulmes, my thirty year > oldGrandad became 50 years old. Some of the errors wereunforgivable as the > census entrys were extremely clear..... Hi all, After my disappointment at the inflated prices they are charging*, the news that the quality of the transcriptions and indexes isn't very good just leaves a bitter taste. * 4.5x the launch prices for the 1901 with Qinetic. Images in the 1901 census were 75p, in the 1911 they are £3.50 each and that's even with information obscured. Guess I'll vote with my feet and either spend a few days in London, or wait for some competition to come along in a year or two. (Ancestry, GS?) -- Stuart Morgan

Sorry if its stating the obvious but have you tried 'Night' Jeanette ----- Original Message ----- From: > Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 1:42 PM Subject: [ENG-HANTS] 1911 census - help with lateral thinking! > Just wondering if anyone can advise how to search, please. I cannot find > my > grandmother, her brothers, and their parents under Knight. I cannot > search > under first name without a surname. The advice section suggests I use a > wildcard to search the start of a surname but when I try, it insists it's > not > possible for the first letter. Can anyone suggest what names I can > search under > - I'm fast running out of ideas. Oh, and I've tried every available > county > too. > > Thanks > > Carol > > ............................................. > Want to contact the local community? > Please visit Hampshire Parish Jottings > http://hants.parishjottings.org.uk > ............................................. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-HAMPSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Carol, What other information _do_ you have? It might be easier to make suggestions if we know that. I have afeeling that because of the expected high demand, they did say that they were restricting some of the search options initially - so it might be that using a wildcard for the first character of the surman might be one of those things, as might searching for a firstname without a surname ... in which case you might need to be patient if we can't come up with anything else more inventive for you! Karen 2009/1/13 <JohnASaul@aol.com> > Just wondering if anyone can advise how to search, please. I cannot find > my > grandmother, her brothers, and their parents under Knight. I cannot > search > under first name without a surname. The advice section suggests I use a > wildcard to search the start of a surname but when I try, it insists it's > not > possible for the first letter. Can anyone suggest what names I can search > under > - I'm fast running out of ideas. Oh, and I've tried every available > county > too. >

Thank you to everyone who has replied. I was looking for my grandmother, Doris Emily KNIGHT born in Vernham Dean in 1901, her parents Frederick [1874] and Martha Mary [1874], and brothers Herbert Thomas [1899] and Frederick Harold [1907]. Further children born 1908 and 1912 also born in Vernham Dean. Trying to think of a transcription for the beautiful letter "K", and whatever might follow it! All suggestions welcome. As I said before, I've tried all currently available counties and various forenames. I guess I'll have to wait until greater search facilities are in operation, or failing that, the census is available to search page by page as on Ancestry. I'm not grumbling as it's wonderful to have the census available early, and I've had success with the other side of my family. Thanks again. Carol

Hi List, I believe someone told me it was transcribed off-shore by people with no local knowledge and little training, possible paid for by number of entries transcribed. Ron, Panama City Beach, FL -----Original Message----- From: eng-hampshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-hampshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Sandra J Smith Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 9:46 AM To: eng-hampshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-HANTS] 1911 census - help with lateral thinking! I am pleased I am not the only one with a gripe about the cost of the 1911 census. But be warned, it is not just transcription errors you have to contend with, the number of typos is horrific. Obviously no double keying checks have been made. Just some examples from my research in the short time the census has been available Tohmas for Thomas Edtih for Edith Willaim for William Williams for William S Calara for Clara Arthu for Arthur Henrys for Henry S Ch STCHELL for Chrystchell So if you are looking for Knight - also try swapping some of the letters around!!! Kinght, Knihgt etc. Regards Sandra ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stuart Morgan" <stuart@tase.co.uk> To: <eng-hampshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 2:48 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-HANTS] 1911 census - help with lateral thinking! On Tuesday 13 January 2009 14:26:22 Dorothy Spence wrote: > ............I have had a happy day searching it with success, but am > horrified as onvirtually every page I purchased there were major errors... > there is afacility for reporting them... so far I have made about ten > reports.There are going to be some very frustrated and unhappy searchers > I > think.My Macaulays became McCanleys, Hunns became Hulmes, my thirty year > oldGrandad became 50 years old. Some of the errors wereunforgivable as the > census entrys were extremely clear..... Hi all, After my disappointment at the inflated prices they are charging*, the news that the quality of the transcriptions and indexes isn't very good just leaves a bitter taste. * 4.5x the launch prices for the 1901 with Qinetic. Images in the 1901 census were 75p, in the 1911 they are £3.50 each and that's even with information obscured. Guess I'll vote with my feet and either spend a few days in London, or wait for some competition to come along in a year or two. (Ancestry, GS?) -- Stuart Morgan ............................................. Want to contact the local community? Please visit Hampshire Parish Jottings http://hants.parishjottings.org.uk ............................................. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-HAMPSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _______________________________________ No viruses found in this incoming message Scanned by iolo AntiVirus 1.5.6.3 http://www.iolo.com _______________________________________ No viruses found in this outgoing message Scanned by iolo AntiVirus 1.5.6.3 http://www.iolo.com ............................................. Want to contact the local community? Please visit Hampshire Parish Jottings http://hants.parishjottings.org.uk ............................................. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-HAMPSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Just wondering if anyone can advise how to search, please. I cannot find my grandmother, her brothers, and their parents under Knight. I cannot search under first name without a surname. The advice section suggests I use a wildcard to search the start of a surname but when I try, it insists it's not possible for the first letter. Can anyone suggest what names I can search under - I'm fast running out of ideas. Oh, and I've tried every available county too. Thanks Carol

Hi Carol, I just found this on another forum. You may have to be very creative with names. Best wishes, Dorothy, Canada ............I have had a happy day searching it with success, but am horrified as onvirtually every page I purchased there were major errors... there is afacility for reporting them... so far I have made about ten reports.There are going to be some very frustrated and unhappy searchers I think.My Macaulays became McCanleys, Hunns became Hulmes, my thirty year oldGrandad became 50 years old. Some of the errors wereunforgivable as the census entrys were extremely clear..... _________________________________________________________________ Show them the way! Add maps and directions to your party invites. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/events.aspx

Dear family historian, We wanted you to be the first to know that the 1911census.co.uk website launches officially tomorrow. We have added many more of the counties that were unavailable on the beta site over Christmas, including Lancashire, Essex, Kent, Yorkshire (West Riding), Nottinghamshire and Herefordshire. We continue to scan the remainder of the census and will make the remaining counties available as soon as possible. A full list of the counties available at launch, and those still to come, appears at the end of this email. We expect the site to be very busy at first, and so we have taken a number of measures to make sure that as many people as possible can get their searches completed successfully. The first is that we have deliberately restricted some of the search functions on the site, meaning that the search is not as flexible as it will be later on. Secondly, we are only allowing users to download original pages, rather than view them directly on the website. Obviously, we will 'unlock' the powerful search features and switch on image viewers as soon as possible after launch and let you know by email and via the blog when we have done this. During launch, if the site becomes exceptionally busy, we will also restrict the number of new people entering the site. We want to allow the people who are already using the site to complete their searches rather than make the site impossibly slow for everybody. We have built the site to withstand a very large (but not infinite) number of visitors, so if you find that you are not being allowed in, please bear with us. Real-time service updates can be found on our blog, which we advise you to check frequently for the latest news. Finally, we know many of you are as excited as we are to see the remaining counties that will become available over the coming months. However, we cannot give you specific launch dates for these remaining counties - we are continuing to scan the census into the spring and anticipate that the census will be complete by this summer. Rest assured that by staying signed up to our newsletter and checking the blog, you will be the first to know of all new developments. Thank you to all those who participated in the beta period and we wish you the very best of success in using the 1911census.co.uk website to broaden your family history research. The 1911census.co.uk team Counties available at launch: Bedfordshire Berkshire Buckinghamshire Cambridgeshire Cheshire Cornwall Derbyshire Devonshire Dorsetshire Essex Gloucestershire Hampshire Herefordshire Hertfordshire Huntingdonshire Kent Lancashire Leicestershire Lincolnshire London Middlesex Norfolk Northamptonshire Nottinghamshire Oxfordshire Rutlandshire Shropshire Somersetshire Staffordshire Suffolk Surrey Sussex Warwickshire Wiltshire Worcestershire Yorkshire West Riding Counties not available for launch but coming soon: England: Durham Cumberland Northumberland Westmorland Yorkshire - East Riding and North Riding Wales: Anglesey Brecknockshire Carnarvonshire Cardiganshire Carmarthenshire Denbighshire Flintshire Glamorgan Merionethshire Montgomeryshire Monmouthshire Pembrokeshire Radnorshire Other: Isle of Man Channel Islands Royal Navy Overseas Military Establishments

Looking for baptism of ADAM JAMES BORN ABOUT 1796 HAMPSHIRE. Possible parents Robert and Eleanor James travellers. Adam marriage to Sarah. Born ABT 1796 In 1841 Adam (occ cutler) and Sarah living Meon Stoke , South Street, Alverstoke. Any connections to James family of Robert and Eleanor would like to hear from you Heather

On 11-Jan-09, at 5:11 AM, Nigel Chalk wrote: > My mother's dentist in the 50's and 60's was a Dr Ashley Tooth in > Swindon, > don't know if he is one of yours? Don't know, but this post gives cause for a smile. ;-)