Ok, now I have more information... First try and access this page... http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/help/ If it does open, then look for the option to 'Sign Out' on the right hand side and click on it. Once you have signed out you may be able to display the proper home page and sign in properly again. If you cannot access even the help page, then try this... ******************* from the GenesReunited FAQs This could be an issue that is caused by your browser refusing to accept the per-session cookies which the site needs to place on your computer whilst you are logged in. Please don't be put off by the length of the following answer! If you follow our step-by-step instructions, it's likely that the issue will be resolved ... Cookies are managed by your local browser. Therefore whether a cookie is deleted is dependant on your local browers version and it's settings. Web page providers can indicate expiration dates of cookies some cookies can expire almost instantly some cookies are persistant. It important to recognise that cookies are only "visible" on a per domain basis. This means a cookie from one domain cannot read data from another domain (unless the same provider owns both domains). Also cookies represent a store of data, they are simply text files -cookies themselves are unable to read private data. To protect your privacy other security settings are far more relevant - such as the installation of ActiveX controls. Advertisers for example make heavy use of cookies to measure the success of advertising campaigns. However the information they are able to collate is valuable only in terms of accumulation - unless you volunteer them information their cookies can never contain private information. Genes Reunited uses cookies for "state-management". We record whether a member is logged in or not and sometimes previous and/or next page. We do this to provide a better experience. For this data, session cookies are used meaning the cookies are deleted when the browser is closed. To resolve this problem you need to activate the per-session cookies feature within your web browser's internet security section. If you wish to utilize the auto-login feature so you do not need to enter your username and password every time you visit the site you will also have to enable the stored cookies. If you were using the site previously without trouble this error could now be occurring if you have recently upgraded your web browser, or have changed your internet security level settings. The following guide should be able to assist you to activate cookies for your internet browser: -Internet Explorer 7.0- The newest version of Internet Explorer 7.0 has advanced cookie management. In order to use this website you will need to adjust the Privacy Settings. If you go to the Internet Options icon in Control Panel (found through Start Menu, Settings, Control Panel). Then select the Privacy tab, you need to adjust the scroll bar to at least Medium, then apply and OK the settings. If you are using Internet Explorer 5.5 or earlier you should be able to change your cookie settings via the Internet Options icon in Control Panel you can find control panel under settings in your Start Menu. In Internet Options go to the Security tab, then select Custom Level. A window with a list of options and checkboxes next to the options will appear. Scroll down the list till you find Allow Cookies and change the settings. If you are using any other browser, i.e. Netscape or AOL, please check their respective home pages for instructions on how to adjust cookie settings. ******************* If neither of those work, I'll think again, but let me know of any messages etc that happen. Kate -----Original Message----- From: eng-hampshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-hampshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of rich Sent: 19 January 2009 22:39 To: eng-hampshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-HANTS] (no subject) Thanks for the hint Kate, but unfortunately it gives me an "untitled" reply. That is with Firefox, that I just downloaded. Previously, I would get a message saying " this site is not accessable" or something of that nature. This all happened literally overnight last summer. I contacted my ISP and we went through various tests. Finally they suggested I contact the manufacturer of my router. I did that and we worked on it. Still, no joy. If Genesreunited was truly interested in having a legitimate website, one would think that they would address these problems. I am rather disheartened with them at the moment and will certainly be doing everything in my power to cancel my subscription. It is basically useless to me at this point in time. Rich

Hi Rita No James VENTHAM baptised at Petersfield or Steep. >From what I can see there were possibly 4 children of John & Elizabeth, they were, Mary (1813) at Binsted, probably Jane (1816) at Froyle, James as you know and possibly Caroline (1826) at Petersfield. Your James could have thought he was from Petersfield if Caroline was his sister. One other James VENTHAM is shown as buried 21 March 1830 at Alton aged 6 yrs. Geoff Rogers ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rita Barfield" <rita_barfield2@hotmail.com> To: <eng-hampshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2009 6:03 PM Subject: [ENG-HANTS] James VENTHAM born 1821 Petersfield, Hampshire > > Hi, I am new to this list and wondered if anyone has means of > telling me who the parents are of James VENTHAM born 1821 > Petersfield, Hants.(.per the 1881 census) I have an ancestor James > VENTHAM, born 5th Sept 1823 at Binstead, Nr. Alton, Hampshire (per > IGI) parents John and Elizabeth VENTHAM who are my 3rd great > grandparents. I have not found anything out about my James since his > birth, so am wondering if he could in fact be the James VENTHAM born > c1821 Petersfield, Hants. Any help would be greatly received, kind > regards Rita Barfield > _________________________________________________________________ > Choose the perfect PC or mobile phone for you > http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/130777504/direct/01/ > > ............................................. > Want to contact the local community? > Please visit Hampshire Parish Jottings > http://hants.parishjottings.org.uk > ............................................. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-HAMPSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi I was having problems a few months ago and managed to sort them out. Can you give more information about what happens? If you click on this link... http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/ what exactly happens? Do you get an error message? Do you get into the home page at all? If you do, does it give you the option to 'Sign Out' on the right hand side? Kate -----Original Message----- From: eng-hampshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-hampshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of rich Sent: 19 January 2009 18:07 To: eng-hampshire@rootsweb.com; eng-wiltshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-HANTS] (no subject) I have been unable to access the site since July of 2007. I have tried everything, even getting my ISP involved. I receive their emails but cannot reply to them as one has to go into the site to respond. I was able to send an email to them outlining my problem but no one bothered to reply. I have recently received a message from them regarding my automatic renewal which is due next month and I can't even tell them not to do it. Can anyone out there help?? Rich

Its working fine for me Jeanette ----- Original Message ----- From: "jean newnham" <jeannewnham@hotmail.com> To: <eng-hampshire@rootsweb.com>; <eng-wiltshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 6:01 PM Subject: [ENG-HANTS] (no subject) > > Is anyone else having trouble accessing Genes Reunited? My computer seems > to crash when I get onto the home page. > _________________________________________________________________ > Cut through the jargon: find a PC for your needs. > http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/130777504/direct/01/ > > ............................................. > Want to contact the local community? > Please visit Hampshire Parish Jottings > http://hants.parishjottings.org.uk > ............................................. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-HAMPSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

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Thanks for the hint Kate, but unfortunately it gives me an "untitled" reply. That is with Firefox, that I just downloaded. Previously, I would get a message saying " this site is not accessable" or something of that nature. This all happened literally overnight last summer. I contacted my ISP and we went through various tests. Finally they suggested I contact the manufacturer of my router. I did that and we worked on it. Still, no joy. If Genesreunited was truly interested in having a legitimate website, one would think that they would address these problems. I am rather disheartened with them at the moment and will certainly be doing everything in my power to cancel my subscription. It is basically useless to me at this point in time. Rich ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kate Burhouse" <k.burhouse@btinternet.com> To: <eng-hampshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 4:57 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-HANTS] (no subject) > Hi > > I was having problems a few months ago and managed to sort them out. > > Can you give more information about what happens? If you click on this > link... > > http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/ > > what exactly happens? Do you get an error message? > > Do you get into the home page at all? If you do, does it give you the > option > to 'Sign Out' on the right hand side? > > Kate > > > -----Original Message----- > From: eng-hampshire-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:eng-hampshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of rich > Sent: 19 January 2009 18:07 > To: eng-hampshire@rootsweb.com; eng-wiltshire@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ENG-HANTS] (no subject) > > I have been unable to access the site since July of 2007. I have tried > everything, even getting my ISP involved. > I receive their emails but cannot reply to them as one has to go into the > site to respond. > I was able to send an email to them outlining my problem but no one > bothered > > to reply. > I have recently received a message from them regarding my automatic > renewal > which is due next month and I can't even tell them not to do it. > Can anyone out there help?? > > Rich > > > > ............................................. > Want to contact the local community? > Please visit Hampshire Parish Jottings > http://hants.parishjottings.org.uk > ............................................. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-HAMPSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

On looking at Genuki it seems he may have meant Steep, nr Petersfield. Regards, Patsy - New Zealand Subject: [ENG-HANTS] James VENTHAM born 1821 Petersfield, Hampshire > > Hi, I am new to this list and wondered if anyone has means of telling me > who the parents are of James VENTHAM born 1821 Petersfield, Hants.(.per > the 1881 census) I have an ancestor James VENTHAM, born 5th Sept 1823 at > Binstead, Nr. Alton, Hampshire (per IGI) parents John and Elizabeth > VENTHAM who are my 3rd great grandparents. I have not found anything out > about my James since his birth, so am wondering if he could in fact be the > James VENTHAM born c1821 Petersfield, Hants. Any help would be greatly > received, kind regards Rita Barfield >

Hello Rita - this James (on the 1881) gives his birthplace as Street, nr Petersfield on the 1871 census where he is in Peckham, Surrey. The 1861 census he is also in Peckham although I cannot access the image - birthplace probably Petersfield still but badly transcribed. 1851 also says Petersfield. Doesn't help with your query much but might clarify if this is the right one. Regards, Patsy - New Zealand Subject: [ENG-HANTS] James VENTHAM born 1821 Petersfield, Hampshire > > Hi, I am new to this list and wondered if anyone has means of telling me > who the parents are of James VENTHAM born 1821 Petersfield, Hants.(.per > the 1881 census) I have an ancestor James VENTHAM, born 5th Sept 1823 at > Binstead, Nr. Alton, Hampshire (per IGI) parents John and Elizabeth > VENTHAM who are my 3rd great grandparents. I have not found anything out > about my James since his birth, so am wondering if he could in fact be the > James VENTHAM born c1821 Petersfield, Hants. Any help would be greatly > received, kind regards Rita Barfield >

Hi Liz I can't say for certain, but it doesn't look like the sort of street that would have been renumbered. Here is a photo of the right end of the road, but can't be sure which one is no.15. http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/770680 worth browsing around this site for other photos of the area. Kate in damp Devon, UK -----Original Message----- From: eng-hampshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-hampshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of liz Sent: 18 January 2009 23:07 To: ENG-HAMPSHIRE@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-HANTS] JACOBS (15 Nelson Avenue Portsmouth Photo request) Hi, We have just proved that my husband's grandmother was married from 15 Nelson Avenue, North End, Portsmouth in 1911. I wonder if anyone can tell me whether the numbers of the houses have changed since then and if it is possible sks could send me a photograph of the house. I would be extremely grateful. I would also be interested to hear from anyone who is researching this Jacobs family: She is listed on the 1911 census as Louise Jacobs, born Hilsea, Hampshire, was registered and baptised as Emily Louise but calls herself Lucretia on her marriage certificate. The details she gives of her father George a gardener tie up and we have found the family in all the census. The name change, which is also on her death certificate is a mystery. George Jacobs, her father was born at Westbourne Sussex, the son of James Jacobs and Mary nee Atherley. Harriet, her mother was born at Durrants, Hampshire the daughter of James Baker and Sarah nee Hammond Thank you for reading Liz.

I have been unable to access the site since July of 2007. I have tried everything, even getting my ISP involved. I receive their emails but cannot reply to them as one has to go into the site to respond. I was able to send an email to them outlining my problem but no one bothered to reply. I have recently received a message from them regarding my automatic renewal which is due next month and I can't even tell them not to do it. Can anyone out there help?? Rich ----- Original Message ----- From: "jean newnham" <jeannewnham@hotmail.com> To: <eng-hampshire@rootsweb.com>; <eng-wiltshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 1:01 PM Subject: [ENG-HANTS] (no subject) > > Is anyone else having trouble accessing Genes Reunited? My computer seems > to crash when I get onto the home page. > _________________________________________________________________ > Cut through the jargon: find a PC for your needs. > http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/130777504/direct/01/ > > ............................................. > Want to contact the local community? > Please visit Hampshire Parish Jottings > http://hants.parishjottings.org.uk > ............................................. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-HAMPSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Or was it Sheet, Patsy? Petersfield has two similar-looking neighbouring parishes called Sheet and Steep - very confusing for researchers. And the problem is, Petersfield library has the microfilmed registers for Steep but not Sheet. Best wishes Tony On 19/01/2009, Patricia O'Shea <pkoshea@xtra.co.nz> wrote: > On looking at Genuki it seems he may have meant Steep, nr Petersfield. > > Regards, Patsy - New Zealand > > Subject: [ENG-HANTS] James VENTHAM born 1821 Petersfield, Hampshire > > > > > > > Hi, I am new to this list and wondered if anyone has means of telling me > > who the parents are of James VENTHAM born 1821 Petersfield, Hants.(.per > > the 1881 census) I have an ancestor James VENTHAM, born 5th Sept 1823 at > > Binstead, Nr. Alton, Hampshire (per IGI) parents John and Elizabeth > > VENTHAM who are my 3rd great grandparents. I have not found anything out > > about my James since his birth, so am wondering if he could in fact be the > > James VENTHAM born c1821 Petersfield, Hants. Any help would be greatly > > received, kind regards Rita Barfield > > > > > > ............................................. > Want to contact the local community? > Please visit Hampshire Parish Jottings > http://hants.parishjottings.org.uk > ............................................. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-HAMPSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi, We have just proved that my husband's grandmother was married from 15 Nelson Avenue, North End, Portsmouth in 1911. I wonder if anyone can tell me whether the numbers of the houses have changed since then and if it is possible sks could send me a photograph of the house. I would be extremely grateful. I would also be interested to hear from anyone who is researching this Jacobs family: She is listed on the 1911 census as Louise Jacobs, born Hilsea, Hampshire, was registered and baptised as Emily Louise but calls herself Lucretia on her marriage certificate. The details she gives of her father George a gardener tie up and we have found the family in all the census. The name change, which is also on her death certificate is a mystery. George Jacobs, her father was born at Westbourne Sussex, the son of James Jacobs and Mary nee Atherley. Harriet, her mother was born at Durrants, Hampshire the daughter of James Baker and Sarah nee Hammond Thank you for reading Liz.

Hi Tony, Many thanks for your prompt reply to my message. I would be very grateful if you would look up James VENTHAM'S birth around 1821 in the Petersfield parish registers, next time you visit the library . I have been trying for a long time to find out if my James of Binsted is in fact the James on the 1881 census saying he came from Petersfield. I have my James solely on the 1841 census with his parents at Brockhampton, Havant, but I have found nothing on him after that date. However, I have details on James (Petersfield) from the 1851 census right the way to his death in 1909, BUT, I haven't found him on the 1841 census!! Thanks again for your offer of help, regard Rita > Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 21:01:57 +0000> From: t.holkham@sky.com> To: eng-hampshire@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [ENG-HANTS] James VENTHAM born 1821 Petersfield, Hampshire> > Rita> > Next time I am in Petersfield library (sometime in the next few weeks)> I could look up James's birth around 1821 in the parish registers, if> that's any help.> > If it's not there, then the James in the 1881 census could well be the> same James that was baptised at Binsted in 1823, and the information> on the 1881 census isn't accurate, either because James guessed where> he was born, or the enumerator got it wrong. Both are possible!> > By the way, the village near Alton is Binsted, without the 'a'.> Binstead with the 'a' is on the Isle of Wight.> > I see (from Sussex Marriage Index) that on 17 June 1800, Jemima Ann> Ventham is mentioned alongside an Arthur Binsted. That's odd. There's> also (17 May 1803) a Robert Ventham. So there could be relations in> Sussex, too.> > If you Google <Ventham Binsted> you get> http://www.curiousfox.com/history/hampshire_2.html> and a few more places to look.> > Best wishes> > Tony Holkham, Petersfield> www.tonyholkham.org> > On 18/01/2009, Rita Barfield <rita_barfield2@hotmail.com> wrote:> >> > Hi, I am new to this list and wondered if anyone has means of telling me who the parents are of James VENTHAM born 1821 Petersfield, Hants.(.per the 1881 census) I have an ancestor James VENTHAM, born 5th Sept 1823 at Binstead, Nr. Alton, Hampshire (per IGI) parents John and Elizabeth VENTHAM who are my 3rd great grandparents. I have not found anything out about my James since his birth, so am wondering if he could in fact be the James VENTHAM born c1821 Petersfield, Hants. Any help would be greatly received, kind regards Rita Barfield> > _________________________________________________________________> > Choose the perfect PC or mobile phone for you> > http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/130777504/direct/01/> >> > .............................................> > Want to contact the local community?> > Please visit Hampshire Parish Jottings> > http://hants.parishjottings.org.uk> > .............................................> >> > -------------------------------> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-HAMPSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message> >> > > .............................................> Want to contact the local community?> Please visit Hampshire Parish Jottings> http://hants.parishjottings.org.uk> .............................................> > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-HAMPSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Cut through the jargon: find a PC for your needs. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/130777504/direct/01/

Rita Next time I am in Petersfield library (sometime in the next few weeks) I could look up James's birth around 1821 in the parish registers, if that's any help. If it's not there, then the James in the 1881 census could well be the same James that was baptised at Binsted in 1823, and the information on the 1881 census isn't accurate, either because James guessed where he was born, or the enumerator got it wrong. Both are possible! By the way, the village near Alton is Binsted, without the 'a'. Binstead with the 'a' is on the Isle of Wight. I see (from Sussex Marriage Index) that on 17 June 1800, Jemima Ann Ventham is mentioned alongside an Arthur Binsted. That's odd. There's also (17 May 1803) a Robert Ventham. So there could be relations in Sussex, too. If you Google <Ventham Binsted> you get http://www.curiousfox.com/history/hampshire_2.html and a few more places to look. Best wishes Tony Holkham, Petersfield www.tonyholkham.org On 18/01/2009, Rita Barfield <rita_barfield2@hotmail.com> wrote: > > Hi, I am new to this list and wondered if anyone has means of telling me who the parents are of James VENTHAM born 1821 Petersfield, Hants.(.per the 1881 census) I have an ancestor James VENTHAM, born 5th Sept 1823 at Binstead, Nr. Alton, Hampshire (per IGI) parents John and Elizabeth VENTHAM who are my 3rd great grandparents. I have not found anything out about my James since his birth, so am wondering if he could in fact be the James VENTHAM born c1821 Petersfield, Hants. Any help would be greatly received, kind regards Rita Barfield > _________________________________________________________________ > Choose the perfect PC or mobile phone for you > http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/130777504/direct/01/ > > ............................................. > Want to contact the local community? > Please visit Hampshire Parish Jottings > http://hants.parishjottings.org.uk > ............................................. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-HAMPSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi, I am new to this list and wondered if anyone has means of telling me who the parents are of James VENTHAM born 1821 Petersfield, Hants.(.per the 1881 census) I have an ancestor James VENTHAM, born 5th Sept 1823 at Binstead, Nr. Alton, Hampshire (per IGI) parents John and Elizabeth VENTHAM who are my 3rd great grandparents. I have not found anything out about my James since his birth, so am wondering if he could in fact be the James VENTHAM born c1821 Petersfield, Hants. Any help would be greatly received, kind regards Rita Barfield _________________________________________________________________ Choose the perfect PC or mobile phone for you http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/130777504/direct/01/

Thanks to all who replied, both on- and off-list, to my query. I've since learnt that if you click on the 'show advanced fields' button on the search page then click on the question mark next to the 'census reference' field, there's an explanation of what each part of the reference refers to. Regards Ed

I would think that the numbers mean the following: PN = Piece Number RD = Registration District SD= Sub District ED= Enumerators District Not sure about SN. Sandra ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eddie Thomas" <cavasta@webtribe.net> To: <eng-hampshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2009 11:57 AM Subject: [ENG-HANTS] O/T 1911 Census References > I've been downloading various images from the 1911 census and am a bit > mystified by some of the reference numbers. A typical reference number, as > provided in the title of the download, appears thus: > > RG14PN27625 RG78PN1579 RD507 SD3 ED23 SN197 > > I know RG14 refers to Registrar General and 14 follows on from previous > censuses (e.g., RG11, RG12, etc.) Does "PN27625" refer to page number? > > Then what about the next part of the sequence: RG78PN1579? I don't > understand this part at all. What does it refer to? > > The rest I can guess at: RD = Registration District; SD = Sub-Registration > District; ED = Enumeration District; and SN = Schedule Number. > > What about folio numbers, though? Weren't they used in the 1911 census? > Can > anyone shed any light on this? I, and presumably most others, am used to > seeing folio, page and schedule numbers. I know the schedule number is > shown > on the individual returns (top right-hand corner of the page); but where > are > the folio and page numbers? > > Thanks for any help > > Regards > > Ed > > > ............................................. > Want to contact the local community? > Please visit Hampshire Parish Jottings > http://hants.parishjottings.org.uk > ............................................. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-HAMPSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > _______________________________________ > No viruses found in this incoming message > Scanned by iolo AntiVirus 1.5.6.3 > http://www.iolo.com > _______________________________________ No viruses found in this outgoing message Scanned by iolo AntiVirus 1.5.6.3 http://www.iolo.com

Eddie I think PN is Piece Number, rather than Page AS for Folios and Pages which we all got used to with older censuses, you need to remember that what we get with the 1911 census is each separate household schedule, whereas earlier censuses were the enumerators schedule, which had many folios/pages. So you won't get folio and page numbers for the 1911. It might take some getting used to having different types of references. There is an attempt to provide this information at the following address: http://webspace.qmul.ac.uk/cgaa183/1911.html which seems to confirm your guesses as well. Regards Jon Baker -----Original Message----- I've been downloading various images from the 1911 census and am a bit mystified by some of the reference numbers. A typical reference number, as provided in the title of the download, appears thus: RG14PN27625 RG78PN1579 RD507 SD3 ED23 SN197 What about folio numbers, though? Weren't they used in the 1911 census? Can anyone shed any light on this? I, and presumably most others, am used to seeing folio, page and schedule numbers. I know the schedule number is shown on the individual returns (top right-hand corner of the page); but where are the folio and page numbers? Ed

The Folio and page numbers in previous censuses would refer to the enumerators books which are not yet online. Each household was a schedule so the page No and Folio will only be available when refering to the enumerators book. These reference numbers are needed so that the record could be found again and if the numbers are not needed I would not see the need to record them. Hilary 2009/1/18 Eddie Thomas <cavasta@webtribe.net> > I've been downloading various images from the 1911 census and am a bit > mystified by some of the reference numbers. A typical reference number, as > provided in the title of the download, appears thus: > > RG14PN27625 RG78PN1579 RD507 SD3 ED23 SN197 > > I know RG14 refers to Registrar General and 14 follows on from previous > censuses (e.g., RG11, RG12, etc.) Does "PN27625" refer to page number? > > Then what about the next part of the sequence: RG78PN1579? I don't > understand this part at all. What does it refer to? > > The rest I can guess at: RD = Registration District; SD = Sub-Registration > District; ED = Enumeration District; and SN = Schedule Number. > > What about folio numbers, though? Weren't they used in the 1911 census? Can > anyone shed any light on this? I, and presumably most others, am used to > seeing folio, page and schedule numbers. I know the schedule number is > shown > on the individual returns (top right-hand corner of the page); but where > are > the folio and page numbers? > > Thanks for any help > > Regards > > Ed > > > ............................................. > Want to contact the local community? > Please visit Hampshire Parish Jottings > http://hants.parishjottings.org.uk > ............................................. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-HAMPSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I've been downloading various images from the 1911 census and am a bit mystified by some of the reference numbers. A typical reference number, as provided in the title of the download, appears thus: RG14PN27625 RG78PN1579 RD507 SD3 ED23 SN197 I know RG14 refers to Registrar General and 14 follows on from previous censuses (e.g., RG11, RG12, etc.) Does "PN27625" refer to page number? Then what about the next part of the sequence: RG78PN1579? I don't understand this part at all. What does it refer to? The rest I can guess at: RD = Registration District; SD = Sub-Registration District; ED = Enumeration District; and SN = Schedule Number. What about folio numbers, though? Weren't they used in the 1911 census? Can anyone shed any light on this? I, and presumably most others, am used to seeing folio, page and schedule numbers. I know the schedule number is shown on the individual returns (top right-hand corner of the page); but where are the folio and page numbers? Thanks for any help Regards Ed