What part of the county is your family from please? Ann Day > >

Julie According to Hants FHS 1851 index number 52, they are possibly living in Godshill Elizabeth Laws, 62, Downton Wilts, HO/107/1667, Folio 645 Henry Laws, 63, Breamore, HO/107/1667, Folio 645 John Laws, 22, Godshill, HO/107/1667, Folio 645 Joseph Laws, 30, Godshill, HO/107/1667, Folio 645 Sarah Laws, 14, Breamore, HO/107/1667, Folio 645 Two other Laws near by that might be related: James Laws, 37, Woodgreen, HO/107/1667, Folio 640 Sarah Laws, 21, Newground, HO/107/1667, Folio 640 Kind Regards Steve Day -----Original Message----- From: Julie Fox [mailto:julie.fox@viterbigroup.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 11:26 PM To: ENG-HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-HANTS] 1851 Census Does anyone have easy access to the 1851 census for Hampshire? I'm looking for a Henry and Elizabeth Lawes (both aged abt. 64) who are probably living in Fordingbridge. Appreciate any help. Thanks, Julie in San Diego ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx

Thanks Richard The Bevois article was written by one of our listers Vicki Turner who works for the Southampton Museums Service and has easy access to the information. Not sure about the skeleton but they have just completed a dig near the Guildhall in the square between what was C&A's and the University building, they thought they would find some medieaval stuff but only came across some unopened bottles of WWI beer!!! Chris Richard Heaton wrote: > Just to say I really enjoyed the link, I often get down to > Southampton, and I came across a report of a skeleton being dug up > when working through the Salisbury and Winchester Journal (in which > Southampton almost always features) , would this refer to the same > legend or another story ? > > "A great deal has been said and written about St.Beavis of > Southampton, and his giant page, Iscapar, and the existence of these > personages has been treated as a fable, although their effigies are > placed at the bar-gate. Yet we are informed, from a source entitled to > some credit, that at the time General Stibert was proprietor of Beavis > Hill, a skeleton was found at the above place, by James Landy, who is > now upwards of 100 years of age, the head of which skeleton was > described, as being four times the usual size, and the body > proportioned." > > Cheers > Richard Heaton > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris & Caroline" > <chris@chayles.freeserve.co.uk> > To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 12:37 PM > Subject: Re: [ENG-HANTS] Corbyn/Corbin, Bevois > > >> Linda >> You might be interested in the page on our website which gives a good >> run down on Bevois. >> http://southernlife.org.uk/bevois.htm >> Chris and Caroline >> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this outgoing message. >> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >> Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.5/32 - Release Date: 27/06/2005 >> >> >> ============================== >> New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your >> ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. >> Learn more: >> http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 >> >> >> > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.5/32 - Release Date: 27/06/2005

1851 Census H107 1552 page 1270 22 Arbour Square, Stepney, London John PARKER, age 59, Officer in H.M. Customs, born Southampton, Hants Fanny PARKER, wife, age 52, born Michelmersh, Hants 1851 Census H107 1552 page 1270 24 Arbour Square, Stepney, London Charles DOWDING, age 64, Clerk to a Sugar Refiner, born Shadwell, Middlesex Amelia DOWDING, wife, age 50, born Portsmouth, Hants John DOWDING, son, age 14, born Kennington, Surrey Harriette DOWDING, dau, age 9, born Shadwell, Middlesex Linda Tasmania, Australia

Apologies But just for info (if of any interest) I've put up an advert which mentions new homes on Bevois Street (Oct 10th 1825) Just search the page below for Bevois http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~dutillieul/ZOtherPapers/S&WJOct101825.html Cheers Richard Heaton ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda and Peter Atherton" <peterjatherton@btinternet.com> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 12:30 PM Subject: [ENG-HANTS] CORBYN/CORBIN, SHAVE, BUDGE, PRIOR > David, thank you for the information regarding the origin of Bivois/Bevois > Street. > > I obtained the spelling from a birth certificate dated April 1844. > In the When and Where Born column it looks like 68 Bivois Street, Saint > Mary, Southampton. > In the Informant column it looks like 68 Bevois Street, Saint Mary, > Southampton. > > However, as I mentioned, I did check the address on the 1841 census and it > looked to me like Bivois Street. > > Then I used Autoroute to check what is there today and indeed, as you say, > there is Bevois Valley Road and Bevois Gardens, both in Southampton. > > Thank you for helping me to clear this up. > > I am still asking for anyone who has these names in their tree, > particularly SHAVE, as I hardly have any information on that family. The > IGI has loads of SHAVE families in that area, so at some stage I must look > at the parish records for Southampton to try to find more members of this > SHAVE family. > > Happy Hunting! > Lin > Herts > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > >

Just to say I really enjoyed the link, I often get down to Southampton, and I came across a report of a skeleton being dug up when working through the Salisbury and Winchester Journal (in which Southampton almost always features) , would this refer to the same legend or another story ? "A great deal has been said and written about St.Beavis of Southampton, and his giant page, Iscapar, and the existence of these personages has been treated as a fable, although their effigies are placed at the bar-gate. Yet we are informed, from a source entitled to some credit, that at the time General Stibert was proprietor of Beavis Hill, a skeleton was found at the above place, by James Landy, who is now upwards of 100 years of age, the head of which skeleton was described, as being four times the usual size, and the body proportioned." Cheers Richard Heaton ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris & Caroline" <chris@chayles.freeserve.co.uk> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 12:37 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-HANTS] Corbyn/Corbin, Bevois > Linda > You might be interested in the page on our website which gives a good run > down on Bevois. > http://southernlife.org.uk/bevois.htm > Chris and Caroline > >> >> > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.5/32 - Release Date: 27/06/2005 > > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > >

Does anyone have easy access to the 1851 census for Hampshire? I'm looking for a Henry and Elizabeth Lawes (both aged abt. 64) who are probably living in Fordingbridge. Appreciate any help. Thanks, Julie in San Diego

Linda You might be interested in the page on our website which gives a good run down on Bevois. http://southernlife.org.uk/bevois.htm Chris and Caroline > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.5/32 - Release Date: 27/06/2005

David, thank you for the information regarding the origin of Bivois/Bevois Street. I obtained the spelling from a birth certificate dated April 1844. In the When and Where Born column it looks like 68 Bivois Street, Saint Mary, Southampton. In the Informant column it looks like 68 Bevois Street, Saint Mary, Southampton. However, as I mentioned, I did check the address on the 1841 census and it looked to me like Bivois Street. Then I used Autoroute to check what is there today and indeed, as you say, there is Bevois Valley Road and Bevois Gardens, both in Southampton. Thank you for helping me to clear this up. I am still asking for anyone who has these names in their tree, particularly SHAVE, as I hardly have any information on that family. The IGI has loads of SHAVE families in that area, so at some stage I must look at the parish records for Southampton to try to find more members of this SHAVE family. Happy Hunting! Lin Herts

I have a list of burials for my YELF ancestors and wonder if anyone has transcribed the headstones which may give more clues to the family members. Also one grave appears to have 7 occupants was this unusual?. Carole.

Dear Linda, in the 1720s the Earl of Peterborough built a mansion on his estate between Southampton Common and Portswood Park, and called it Bevis Mount (after the popular Mediaeval hero 'Sir Bevis of Hampton'); the lower part of the estate by the River Itchen later became known as Bevis Valley (mis-spelt even later as Bevois; the mis-spelling has prevailed). Bevis Valley was developed 1852-67 when the estate was broken up, and the south-west part of the estate was named Bevois Town. The 'long road' would probably be Bevois Valley Road (which runs north from Mount Pleasant Road to Portswood Park). The Earl is still comemorated in Peterborough Road, Bevois Town. I can only assume the enumerator was not a local man if he spelt it Bivois (Googling for Bivois gives no results) - however it is interesting that the 1841 Census was taken ten years before the redevelopment is supposed to have taken place - does this mean that 'Bivois Street' was inhabited by the earl's estate workers? It may have been renamed from Street to Road ('street' has connotations of 'built-up area' which the developers might seek to avoid) or, if it did not suit, disappeared under the housing estates. Regards, David

IT WAS THE 1861, SORRY! For some reason Ancestry will not let me save the image to my computer! Hope it helps anyway Linda -----Original Message----- From: Carole Cumber [mailto:ccumber@sprint.ca] Sent: 27 June 2005 18:09 To: ENG-HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-HANTS] John Hunt Hi Linda, Thankyou for the lookup, Which census year is this information from? Carole ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Braden" <l.braden@ntlworld.com> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 12:38 PM Subject: [ENG-HANTS] John Hunt > > > > Lucy Clark <javascript:go1bb5180()> > > abt 1850 > > Isle of Wight, Cowes > > Niece > > Southampton St Michael > > Hampshire > > > > > > > > > William Hernst <javascript:go1bb5181()> > > abt 1844 > > Isle of Wight, Cowes > > Visitor > > Southampton St Michael > > Hampshire > > > > > > > > > John Hunt <javascript:go1bb5182()> > > abt 1808 > > Gosport, Hampshire, England > > Head > > Southampton St Michael > > Hampshire > > > > > > > > > Mary Ann Hunt <javascript:go1bb5183()> > > abt 1814 > > Isle of Wight, Cowes > > Wife > > Southampton St Michael > > Hampshire > > > > > > > > > > Living at 31 Bugle St Southampton > > > > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

Thank you David. I presume you are talking about present day addresses? Because Bivois Street was definitely there on tehe 1841 census as I looked at the whole length of it - a very long Street. best wishes Lin ----- Original Message ----- From: "David DOWD" <david.dowd@tesco.net> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 3:49 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-HANTS] Corbyn/Corbin, Shave, Budge, Prior > Dear Linda and Peter, > Bivois Street does not appear, but BEVOIS Gardens (cul-de-sac off > Cambridge Road), Hill (a link road), Mount (a district), Town (a > district), Valley (a district), and Valley Road (A 335) are still there. > Regards, David > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.2/29 - Release Date: 27/06/2005 > >

Hi Guys I am looking for any information on William Glover born about 1821 and Thomas Glover born about 1825 Father William mother could be Lucy Palmer Smith born Isle of Wight 1805. The marriage could have been about 1825. Mother could be wrong. But still looking for a marriage of this two and maybe a marriage for William to some body else. Hoping for some help with my brick wall. Regards Robert

Dear Linda and Peter, Bivois Street does not appear, but BEVOIS Gardens (cul-de-sac off Cambridge Road), Hill (a link road), Mount (a district), Town (a district), Valley (a district), and Valley Road (A 335) are still there. Regards, David

Reposting my interests in Hampshire. James CORBIN married Harriet SHAVE IGI has a marriage for this couple 04 APR 1811 Christchurch, Hampshire Is anyone else researching this name? Interested in the family of Harriet SHAVE and any siblings of James CORBIN who was a farm bailiff in the Christchurch area. William BUDGE married (not sure when/where ceremony took place) Ann PRIOR. This couple had two children Mary Jane born 1844 and Charles born 1846, both in Southampton. I think William was a ship's painter. I can find no record of a marriage between William/Ann either in Pallots/IGI/civil records. My only hope is parish records I think. Mary Jane Budge was born 11/4/1844 at 68 Bivois Street, Saint Mary, Southampton. I have checked Bivois Street on the 1841 census but no luck. Also scoured St Mary's and All Saints parishes in 1841 to find PRIOR/BUDGE names but no luck. Are there any indexes for other Southampton parishes on the 1841? I think Ann Budge died 1849 in Poplar and William BUDGE turns up on the 1851 Census, with a new wife/partner called Caroline - as follows: 107/1554 folio 611r All Saints, Poplar at 4 South Street, St Ann's Limehouse, Tower Hamlets William Budge, head, 38, painter & glazier, born Yealmpton, Devon Caroline Budge, wife, 36 born Poplar Mary J Budge,dau, 7, scholar born Southampton, Hants Charles Budge, son, 5, scholar born Southampton, Hants Anyone with interest in these surnames, please contact me, maybe we can exchange information. Very best wishes Lin Atherton

Hi Linda, Thankyou for the lookup, Which census year is this information from? Carole ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Braden" <l.braden@ntlworld.com> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 12:38 PM Subject: [ENG-HANTS] John Hunt > > > > Lucy Clark <javascript:go1bb5180()> > > abt 1850 > > Isle of Wight, Cowes > > Niece > > Southampton St Michael > > Hampshire > > > > > > > > > William Hernst <javascript:go1bb5181()> > > abt 1844 > > Isle of Wight, Cowes > > Visitor > > Southampton St Michael > > Hampshire > > > > > > > > > John Hunt <javascript:go1bb5182()> > > abt 1808 > > Gosport, Hampshire, England > > Head > > Southampton St Michael > > Hampshire > > > > > > > > > Mary Ann Hunt <javascript:go1bb5183()> > > abt 1814 > > Isle of Wight, Cowes > > Wife > > Southampton St Michael > > Hampshire > > > > > > > > > > Living at 31 Bugle St Southampton > > > > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

Hi Paula, If you have his marriage certificate it should tell you how many years he has been in the colony. From there you can check shipping arrivals from http://www.searchforancestors.com/records/passenger_toaustralia.html or http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/ or if he landed in Victoria it's http://proarchives.imagineering.com.au/index_search.asp?searchid=24. From there you should be able to track if his parents where with him. What year was your John born in? Cheers Karenn, a fellow aussie -----Original Message----- From: Paula Maslin [mailto:maslin@iweb.net.au] Sent: Monday, 27 June 2005 10:55 AM To: ENG-HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-HANTS] Fw: 1851 census Hampshire - WILSON Hi everyone I'm hoping SKS could please help, I've hit a brick wall. I am trying to find info about Charles Wilson & Sarah Anne nee Harrison. They were in the Hampshire area in 1850 when their son, John was born, possible either Southampton or Portsea Island. Charles was reported to be a Custom House officer. Would be grateful to anyone with access to the 1851 uk census for Hampshire, could check for Charles or Sarah Wilson with their son John. If anyone could offer any other possible info I would also be most grateful. All I have to go on is John's marriage certificate. He was married in Australia in 1873. I'm unsure if his parents came to Australia as well or even if John had any siblings. Kind regards Paula ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&ta rgetid=5429

Hi everyone I'm hoping SKS could please help, I've hit a brick wall. I am trying to find info about Charles Wilson & Sarah Anne nee Harrison. They were in the Hampshire area in 1850 when their son, John was born, possible either Southampton or Portsea Island. Charles was reported to be a Custom House officer. Would be grateful to anyone with access to the 1851 uk census for Hampshire, could check for Charles or Sarah Wilson with their son John. If anyone could offer any other possible info I would also be most grateful. All I have to go on is John's marriage certificate. He was married in Australia in 1873. I'm unsure if his parents came to Australia as well or even if John had any siblings. Kind regards Paula

Hi Listers After a break of over 2 years I am taking up tracing my tree where I left off. I am looking for William Thorn(e) married to Judith ? born possibly Milford on Sea likely to be sometime prior to 1740 as they seem to appear in South Stoneham c1760. One particular line I am eager to trace is Susan Thorn daughter of William Thorn(e) and Lucy Moody born 1838. I would dearly love to find out more information about this ancestor. Also Looking for any Osman connections. Look forward to your replies Andrew Thorn Researching: Thorn(e) Osman Munday Marsh Moody Grant Co(o)mbes