1851 Census H107 1528 page 52 1 Bouverie Street, Whitefriars, London James HENDY, age 45, Sexton, born Andover, Hants Maria HENDY, wife, age 49, born Middlesex Henrietta HENDY, dau, age 17, Milliner, born Middlesex John HENDY, son, age 11, scholar, born Middlesex George HENDY, son, age 9, scholar, born Middlesex Jane BIRCH, Servant, age 17, Servant, born Andover, Hants 1851 Census H107 1528 page 54 33 Bouverie Street, Whitefriars, London Ann BIRCH, Servant, unmarried, age 26, Servant, born Andover, Hants 1851 Census H107 1528 page 61 4 Temple Lane, Whitefriars, London John BIRCH, age 46, Umbrella Maker, born Andover, Hants Mary A. BIRCH, wife, age 33, born hard to read looks like St Sarrow?, Cornwall At the same address as above 4 Temple Lane but separate entry: William SHEPHERD, age 24, Printer Compositor, born Blackfriars, Surrey Elizabeth SHEPHERD, wife, age 23, born Andover, Hants Linda Tasmania, Australia

Hi to all I am looking for Joseph and Rachel Lowe from Hants they had a daughter who was called Elizabeth Rachel Lowe married to Albert Lynn in Surrey. Joseph was born abt 1818-1820's his wife Rachel was formerly Rachel Alexander married in 6 Nov 1842 preston Candover Hampshire. If anyone can help thanks Caroline

35 Pounds 17 shilling as 2 pence (tuppence!) Nancy Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill or Nancy Jones" <jones8659@sbcglobal.net> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 8:15 PM Subject: [ENG-HANTS] Money in the 1600s > I have a death chattle from the 1600s which shows the value of goods as 35 - 17 - 02. Would someone please confirm this for me. Is it pounds, shillings, pence? Thanks, Nancy > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

Yes this is the Military Prison, Glasshouse is also used for the Guardroom in a camp as it has cells in for prisoners. Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan McGowan" <mcgoa@lineone.net> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 9:57 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-HANTS] Local Knowlege of Farnborough needed -Solider/Prisoner > It could be the Miltary Prison for Aldershot Camp, which is described at > www.hants.gov.uk/museum/aldershot/faq/glasshouse.html > > Aldershot is known as "The Home of the British Army". Aldershot Camp was > established in 1854, with the South Camp situated within the boundaries of > Aldershot, and the North Camp situated within the boundaries of Farnborough. > > The article shows that the prison was bounded by North Road, Redvers Buller > Roads, and James Road. The location of these can be seeeen by going to > www.streetmap.co.uk and searching for Street "redvers buller road". > > Alan McGowan > Aldershot, Hampshire > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Vernon Cook" <patricia@cook7010.fsnet.co.uk> > To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 9:05 PM > Subject: [ENG-HANTS] Local Knowlege of Farnborough needed -Solider/Prisoner > > Greetings, > I am a new to the list. > II have just obtained a census entry for 1891 for Farnborough. > > WILLIAMS Thomas - Prison - unm - 19 - Solider - b Glos, Bristol > > Unfortunately I do not have previous pages, and would like to find out what > sort of establishment Thomas was in? > One the same page are Sargeant Major's Medical Corps and their families, so > take it to be either a Military Priston, or a Prison which is part of a > Military Establishment. > > Perhaps somebody with local knowledge of Farnborough could clarify for me. > > Many thanks > Pat in Grimsby, Lincolnshire. > > > > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

Hi All, Have recently found my ancestors in Dorset & the Winchester Area and would love to hear from anyone with any connections. Isaac ROSE married Mary LOVELL around July 1855 in the Alresford Registration District ( I have just sent off for the certificate). Isaac was born abt 1828 in either Northington, Hants or Monkton in Dorset (1861 & 1871 Censuses) !!! Mary was born about 1861 in Northington. They had the following children who's places of birth vary as much as their parents'!! Charles ROSE about 1855 in Burket?? or East Stratton Eliza ROSE born about 1857 in East Stratton Jane ROSE born about 1858 in East Stratton Walter ROSE born about 1860 in East Stratton or Blagdon, Dorset Sarah ROSE born about 1865 in Blagdon, Dorset Louisa ROSE born about 1868 in Blagdon, Dorset Elizabeth ROSE born 1870 in Horton, Dorset Member of the Guild of One Name Studies for FISHBURN www.fishbournefamily.freeserve.co.uk On-Line Parish Clerk for Stalbridge, Dorset www.thesquirrelhouse.freeserve.co.uk

1851 Census H107 1536 page 913 and 914 35 Poole Street, Shoreditch, London Thomas DEWEY, age 51, Managing Foreman, born Fareham, Hampshire Mary Ann DEWEY, wife, age 48, born Fareham, Hampshire Esther Moody DEWEY, dau, unmarried, age 24, Dressmaker, born Hayling Island, Hampshire Charles Samuel DEWEY, son, unmarried, age 20, Labour in Foundry, born Odiham, Hampshire Eliza Webb DEWEY, dau, unmarried, age 18, Cap Front Maker, born Odiham, Hampshire Sophia DEWEY, dau, age 15, scholar, born Clatford, Hampshire William Webb DEWEY, son, age 5, scholar, born Clatford, Hampshire Jabez Ebenezer DEWEY, son, age 3, scholar, born Clatford, Hampshire Linda Tasmania, Australia

I once a while ago signed on for about an hour and then got cold feet and cancelled the same night. I wonder if I will be knocked back ----- Original Message ----- From: "J P NIXEY" <jpnixey@btinternet.com> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 8:51 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-HANTS] The VECK families of Bishops Waltham > Hi bob, > Nope, you can only use the card number once, which I already have. shame, > but never mind eh? > > Take care, Jon > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.0/63 - Release Date: 8/3/05 > > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx >

Hi bob, Nope, you can only use the card number once, which I already have. shame, but never mind eh? Take care, Jon -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.0/63 - Release Date: 8/3/05

Hi Jon did you get the free trial Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "J P NIXEY" <jpnixey@btinternet.com> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 8:18 PM Subject: [ENG-HANTS] The VECK families of Bishops Waltham > Hi everyone, > > Are there any list members researching the VECK families of Bishops > Waltham > from around 1780 onward, please? If so, I'd very much like to hear from > you. > Of particular interest to me is the family of Richard Aubery Veck and > Elizabeth (formerly Bulpett). > > Kind regards to all, Jon > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.0/63 - Release Date: 8/3/05 > > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx >

Hi everyone, Are there any list members researching the VECK families of Bishops Waltham from around 1780 onward, please? If so, I'd very much like to hear from you. Of particular interest to me is the family of Richard Aubery Veck and Elizabeth (formerly Bulpett). Kind regards to all, Jon -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.0/63 - Release Date: 8/3/05

Dear All I am new to this list, having inhabited the London one for some time now. I have (at last!) located some of my ELLIS ancestors in Netley in 1861. I believe they moved there sometime before 1851 and was wondering if anyone had access to an index for the 1851 census for that area and could have a look for them. The family should be headed by Samuel ELLIS (b. Swanage, Dorset circa 1811), wife Frances (b. Herts circa 1811) and possibly children Charles, George, Mary, Francis and William. Many thanks, Caroline

Hi Bob, the SS Parramatta was of 4,771 gross register tons, was 420 ft. long and 43 ft. in beam; it was used by the P & O (Peninsula and Oriental Steam navigation Co., of London), presumably for their Australia service. Retirement for one so young? Obviously, I don't know, but Ringwood was inconveniently far from Southampton in those days for him not to be retired. He could, I suppose, have found work at Christchurch harbour, down the River Avon - a bit of a come-down, though. The 1901 Census is the latest available but is very likely too early as the ship wasn't scrapped until 1903. Regards, David

David you are a marvel been trying to find that ship for ages, I'm very impressed. I wonder if he retired when his ship was broken up, he would have been 47 then, a bit young I would have thought. His wife was quite a bit younger than him 22 years in fact so presumably she will be the owner at a later date. Regards Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "David DOWD" <david.dowd@tesco.net> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 10:31 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-HANTS] Kelly's for Ringwood > Hi Bob, > no, I'm afraid Kelly's doesn't go into that sort of detail unless you're a > nob. Alfred presumably named his retirement house after his ship, the > S.S. Parramatta, built in 1882 at Yard 226 by Caird & Co., Greenock, Clyde > and registered in London. It was scrapped in 1903, hence his retirement? > The ship named obviously after Sydney's river. > Poulner is quite a large area so I'm afraid this is not very helpful. No > other directory threw up Parramatta as an address. > Regards, David > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

Hi Bob, no, I'm afraid Kelly's doesn't go into that sort of detail unless you're a nob. Alfred presumably named his retirement house after his ship, the S.S. Parramatta, built in 1882 at Yard 226 by Caird & Co., Greenock, Clyde and registered in London. It was scrapped in 1903, hence his retirement? The ship named obviously after Sydney's river. Poulner is quite a large area so I'm afraid this is not very helpful. No other directory threw up Parramatta as an address. Regards, David

thank you David, there was not an actual address was there with a street or road. Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "David DOWD" <david.dowd@tesco.net> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 10:12 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-HANTS] Kelly's for Ringwood > Hi Bob, > Kelly's for 1911 (the nearest one I have access to) states under private > residents: > Cocker, Alfred, living at Parramatta (no mention of occupation) > for Poulner, which is Ringwood's northern suburb. > For some reason (maybe the large lake system to its north), Poulner > attracted a number of retired naval types then. > Regards, David > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

Hi Bob, Kelly's for 1911 (the nearest one I have access to) states under private residents: Cocker, Alfred, living at Parramatta (no mention of occupation) for Poulner, which is Ringwood's northern suburb. For some reason (maybe the large lake system to its north), Poulner attracted a number of retired naval types then. Regards, David

Would anyone have a Kelly's for Ringwood or any way of finding an address of a house called Parramatta in Ringwood that's all I have apart from the owner around 1919 was an Alfred Crocker (Master Mariner) and wife Sara Ann. Clutching at straws

Hi List, A recently discovered new site for immigrants into the USA. Most of us have probably heard of Ellis Island, but this is Castle Garden New York, with a further 10 million names. May help someone whose relatives "disappeared" http://www.castlegarden.org/ Regards Sandra

LOL! And my TATEs escaped FROM East End! Actually, I don't have DINES in my ancestry tree -- what I have is TATE. My ggggrandfather, HENRY TATE, started a 2nd family (new wife) in 1871, had one daughter, EDITH. (His son from 1st marriage is my gggrandfather). His daughter, EDITH TATE, married FRANK TOMS. They had a daughter in approx. 1898, EDITH TOMS. She would be the granddaughter of my ggggranfather, and I believe she married a GEORGE DINES in the early 1900s. I would love to find some living distant rellies (distant 1/2 cousins) in the UK. But I know nothing of the DINES family. Sorry! - Kathy Tate Anderson ----- Original Message ----- From: <Paulknewell@aol.com> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 1:33 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-HANTS] TOMS DINES CHAPMAN > Kathy Tate Anderson, > > It's along shot, but I have a DINES* in my famhist. > > * Walter Frank DINES married ADA CHAPLARD on 13th April 1900 in Lambeth. > > The CHAPLARD line is on my mothers side. > > This Walter Frank D was a 'stereotyper foundryman' living in Brixton at > the > time of marriage, > his father George was a 'blacklead refiner' and already deceased by 1900. > > The reason I'm bothering is that my main family line comes from Hampshire, > but recently I've discovered that they escaped to London (Shoreditch) > > regards > > paul > researching:- > NEWELL - Hampshire, Surrey, Middlesex > BRADLEY - Buckinghamshire > WILSON - Shoreditch, West Ham, Walthamstow > CHAPLARD - Lambeth, Shoreditch > CARTER - Hoxton and Ashford, Middlesex > HATFIELD - Hoxton > HARDING - Westbury on Trym, Gloucester > RUBY - Ashford & Stanmore, Middlesex > SHOPLAND - Richmond, Surrey > > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

What a great list, Thanks also to Ron and Adele for their help and advice, Pat and Vernon, Grimsby, Lincs Researching Bristol, both Glos & Somerset - COCKRAM CRUDGE COOK DAY TOVEY WESTERN WILLIAMS HELLINGS LEE PARKER and CROFT Somerset - WESTERN HELLINGS COCKRAM Devon - HELLINGS WESTERN CRUDGE POMEROY BURGE OSMENT MAUNDER Lincs - LEE SCARBY METCALF(E) STORR FOWLER RABY BUTTON MARKHAM ROSSINGTON THOMPSON PUTTRELL SMITH FREEBOROUGH STEAD Yorks - STEAD DUNNILL THOMPSON JARVIS SMITH HARE Notts - LEE SHEPPARD SIMPSON Leics - WATERFIELD Hunts - SMITH BABB ELLIS