Hi, If anyone has access to the parish records of St. Mary's, Portsea I need the christening date for George Richard Wittey b: 11 May 1842 Portsea. I need the parents of George if possible from the records. Thank you in Advance. Gwen

1851 Census H107 1480 page 94 29 Parliament Street, St Margaret Westminster, London Henry George BLACKBURN, Apprentice, unmarried, age 21, Stationer, born Portsea, Hants 1851 Census H107 1480 page 95 26 Parliament Street, St Margaret Westminster, London Elizabeth SHEPPARD, Servant, widow, age 50, Housekeeper, born Havant, Hants Emma SHEPPARD, Servant, unmarried, age 22, Dressmaker, born Lambeth, Surrey (relationship between the above two not given but thought they might be connected) Linda Tasmania, Australia

You obviously have not referred to my book* recently Chris, or you would have remembered that Magdalen Hill Cemetery was not opened until 1916 !!. Unless the 1905 burial was in a churchyard, which is unlikely, the most probable place for the burial would have been the West Hill Cemetery, Winchester, which had been opened from 1840. The records up to 1908 (unconsecrated) and 1918 (consecrated) are held by the Hampshire Record Office, who may do a lookup for you if you send them an email. Or you could ask on this list if anyone is going there soon. * The Cemeteries of Hampshire: Their History and Records. ISSN 0144-5200, Feb 1997 Cheers, Dave Jacobs ================ At 15:31 21/08/2005, Chris and Caroline wrote: >Your name should give you the clue to that, Magdalen Hill Cemetery >Winchester, probably!! >Chris > >----- Original Message ----- From: "McGuinness" <mwmaggin@mweb.co.za> >To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 1:33 PM >Subject: [ENG-HANTS] Cemetaryhelp > > >>Hello Listers >>My gt grandmother Ellen GIBSON born GOLDING died in Winchester, St Peter >>Chesil Parish >>26 January 1905. Can anyone give me an idea of where she may have been >>buried please? >>Her address was 5 East Cliffe, Winchester at the time. >>Many thanks >> >>Magdalen in South Africa. >> >> >>============================== >>Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >>last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >>http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >> > > >============================== >New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors >at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: >http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > " Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it. -Mark Twain, author and humorist (1835-1910) Fashion is something barbarous, for it produces innovation without reason and imitation without benefit. -George Santayana, philosopher (1863-1952)

Thanks for the suggestion I will try the council I had tried the Hampshire archives which I have found good in the past he is a bit of a mystery man I think he went to school in Frome Somerset 1891 away from home as well unlike the other children. I remember visiting a family near Bournemouth in about 1958 that had a supermodel train set I wonder if it was his son. Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandra J Smith" <sandra.s@ntlworld.com> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 5:36 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-HANTS] Wlliam Wilkinson of Bournemouth > Janet, > I am sure if you wrote to Bournemouth Council, they will almost > certainly be able to provide you with a potted history of your man. > Although the baths have long gone, it is possible that the commemorative > stone might have been salvaged, or at least the inscription recorded. > If it had been relocated they wopuld certainly know where. > Their address can be found on their website: > http://www.bournemouth.gov.uk/ > Regards > Sandra > > Chris and Caroline wrote: > > > Bournemouth was part of the County of Hampshire Janet till the > > boundary changes around 1974. > > But I expect people on this list can help, but why not join the Dorset > > list as well, take two bites of the cherry so to speak. > > Chris > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "janet cook" > > <janet.cook3@btinternet.com> > > To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 4:19 PM > > Subject: [ENG-HANTS] Wlliam Wilkinson of Bournemouth > > > > > >> I am new to the list and I am nor sure is if this is the correct list > >> or if I should join the Dorset list. > >> > >> My Great grandfathers brother WILLIAM WILKINSON was born Wandsworth > >> London around 1881 but I am told he became a Railwayman like his > >> father, and was a Bournemouth councillor and JP I have tried google > >> with no success. > >> > >> I am also told by 3 older separate family members that the Public > >> baths at Bournemouth that have now also gone had a commemorative > >> stone he laid. > >> > >> I do remember relatives vaguely in the Bournemouth area in the late > >> 1950's but no detail and I think they must have been his family > >> rather than him, does anyone have any clues or suggestions were to > >> try please. Thank you > >> > >> > >> ============================== > >> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > >> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >> > >> > > > > > > > > ============================== > > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your > > ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. > > Learn more: > > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > >

I have taken your advice and hope someone has some clues about him.I will also ask my uncle when he saw the stone as a child as it may help me a bit. thanks Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris and Caroline" <chris@chayles.freeserve.co.uk> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 5:01 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-HANTS] Wlliam Wilkinson of Bournemouth > Bournemouth was part of the County of Hampshire Janet till the boundary > changes around 1974. > But I expect people on this list can help, but why not join the Dorset list > as well, take two bites of the cherry so to speak. > Chris > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "janet cook" <janet.cook3@btinternet.com> > To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 4:19 PM > Subject: [ENG-HANTS] Wlliam Wilkinson of Bournemouth > > > >I am new to the list and I am nor sure is if this is the correct list or if > >I should join the Dorset list. > > > > My Great grandfathers brother WILLIAM WILKINSON was born Wandsworth > > London around 1881 but I am told he became a Railwayman like his father, > > and was a Bournemouth councillor and JP I have tried google with no > > success. > > > > I am also told by 3 older separate family members that the Public baths at > > Bournemouth that have now also gone had a commemorative stone he laid. > > > > I do remember relatives vaguely in the Bournemouth area in the late 1950's > > but no detail and I think they must have been his family rather than > > him, does anyone have any clues or suggestions were to try please. Thank > > you > > > > > > ============================== > > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > >

Can anyone tell me any thing about TICHBORNE ESTATE my Great grandmother , Alice LANGRISH was born there 30th September 1851. I have her birth certificate it says Registration District DROXFORD , Sub-District WESTMEON . She was the daughter of Robert LANGRISH & Elizabeth SIMS. A hand written note by her son says she was born in Hampshire , Midlands or Midleans , (the writing is poor not sure of this one name) on TICHBORN ESTATE . Her father was a carpenter , I presume on the Estate . As far as I know all her 8 sisters and Alice were "in service " . Any help would be greatly appreciated . Thelma , Vernon, B.C. ,

Your name should give you the clue to that, Magdalen Hill Cemetery Winchester, probably!! Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: "McGuinness" <mwmaggin@mweb.co.za> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 1:33 PM Subject: [ENG-HANTS] Cemetaryhelp > Hello Listers > My gt grandmother Ellen GIBSON born GOLDING died in Winchester, St Peter > Chesil Parish > 26 January 1905. Can anyone give me an idea of where she may have been > buried please? > Her address was 5 East Cliffe, Winchester at the time. > Many thanks > > Magdalen in South Africa. > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

1851 Census H107 1480 page 36 and 37 2 Little Deans Yard, St Peter Westminster, London Charles George SEARLE, Boarder, age 13, scholar, born Cowes, Hants Jane FRANKLIN, Servant, age 23, Housemaid, born Basingstoke, Hants 1851 Census H107 1480 page 38 1 Little Deans Yard, St Peters Westminster, London Spencer CLARKE, Boarder, age 13, scholar, born Andover, Hants Linda Tasmania, Australia

Hello Listers My gt grandmother Ellen GIBSON born GOLDING died in Winchester, St Peter Chesil Parish 26 January 1905. Can anyone give me an idea of where she may have been buried please? Her address was 5 East Cliffe, Winchester at the time. Many thanks Magdalen in South Africa.

we have just come across batch no C091301 in Dorset but it refers to Forton by Alverstoke baptists. Ignore the warning about the fact it could refer to several locations or something like that and just click ok. You might just find some of your missing rellies amongst the 144 people located there. Good luck anyway,Linda and Tony

Can someone tell me if they listed the residence on the early 1841/51 Census Bob

Not that good as a critic John!! But willing to have a looksee!! The AD is Chris Hayles 8 Arthur Road Eastleigh SO50 4FU Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Orchard" <john.orchard4@btinternet.com> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 12:45 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-HANTS] Forton, Hampshire > Hi Chris > > The Drummond piece is not so much big as, well, massive! > > I will try and effectively reduce it - what a shame! I suppose I could > always send you a printed version, you're not far away from me here and > I'd like your opinion. > > Regards > John > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chris and Caroline" <chris@chayles.freeserve.co.uk> > To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 11:58 PM > Subject: Re: [ENG-HANTS] Forton, Hampshire > > >> Well makes a change from them ranting about the Saints now that they are >> not in Div1!! >> The info I had was that Forton was in Alverstoke but thats near to >> Portsmouth by a few inches I think!! >> And I did say it was a suburb of Portsmouth not Portsmouth was a suburb >> of Alverstoke!! LOL >> Hope the Drummond piece is not too big, must be a year or more now since >> you started it!!! LOL >> You can always send me an abridged copy!! >> Chris >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "John Orchard" <john.orchard4@btinternet.com> >> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 3:00 PM >> Subject: Re: [ENG-HANTS] Forton, Hampshire >> >> >>> Hi Chris >>> >>> I hear ranting on the streets of Gosport! "What's this?" I hear them >>> cry, "a suburb of Portsmouth - damned cheek!" >>> >>> The Borough of Gosport is quite, quite separate from its large neighbour >>> and is a borough council within the County of Hampshire's area of >>> interest.The City of Portsmouth is, of course a unitary authority that >>> does not come under the aegis of the Hampshire County Council. >>> >>> I think that I'm in danger of being pedantic, so I'll shut up. >>> >>> Regards >>> John >>> >>> (By the way I have got the Drummond story about as far as I'm likely to >>> get it in the next few years and if you would like to read it then let >>> me know! It has taken rather a long time because of business and >>> university commitments). >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Chris and Caroline" <chris@chayles.freeserve.co.uk> >>> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 2:31 PM >>> Subject: Re: [ENG-HANTS] Forton, Hampshire >>> >>> >>>> Forton is not a parish in its own right, this is why you will not find >>>> it on Parish Locator. >>>> It is part of the parish of Alverstoke. >>>> Alverstoke comprises the town and port of Gosport and is a suburb of >>>> Portsmouth, the hamlets of Gosport, Forton, Anglesey, Elson and >>>> Hardway. >>>> See our website for more >>>> http://www.southernlife.org.uk/forton.htm >>>> Chris >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "PMR" <cliveden@acenet.net.au> >>>> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> >>>> Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 12:10 PM >>>> Subject: [ENG-HANTS] Forton, Hampshire >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hello Listers >>>>> >>>>> I have seen reference on the List to the parish of Forton >>>>> in >>>>> Hampshire but can't find it on Parish Locator. Could someone tell me, >>>>> please, how far it is from Alverstoke (I'm interested in checking out >>>>> near-by parishes) and is it an 'ancient parish' or of more recent >>>>> establishment? >>>>> >>>>> Many thanks. >>>>> Pam >>>>> >>>>> cliveden@acenet.net.au >>>>> >>>>> Beaudesert, Queensland, Australia >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ============================== >>>>> Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and >>>>> the >>>>> areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >>>>> Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ============================== >>>> New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your >>>> ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. >>>> Learn more: >>>> http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ============================== >>> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >>> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >>> http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >>> >>> >> >> >> >> ============================== >> Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >> areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >> Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >> >> > > > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > >

Hi Chris The Drummond piece is not so much big as, well, massive! I will try and effectively reduce it - what a shame! I suppose I could always send you a printed version, you're not far away from me here and I'd like your opinion. Regards John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris and Caroline" <chris@chayles.freeserve.co.uk> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 11:58 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-HANTS] Forton, Hampshire > Well makes a change from them ranting about the Saints now that they are > not in Div1!! > The info I had was that Forton was in Alverstoke but thats near to > Portsmouth by a few inches I think!! > And I did say it was a suburb of Portsmouth not Portsmouth was a suburb of > Alverstoke!! LOL > Hope the Drummond piece is not too big, must be a year or more now since > you started it!!! LOL > You can always send me an abridged copy!! > Chris > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Orchard" <john.orchard4@btinternet.com> > To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 3:00 PM > Subject: Re: [ENG-HANTS] Forton, Hampshire > > >> Hi Chris >> >> I hear ranting on the streets of Gosport! "What's this?" I hear them cry, >> "a suburb of Portsmouth - damned cheek!" >> >> The Borough of Gosport is quite, quite separate from its large neighbour >> and is a borough council within the County of Hampshire's area of >> interest.The City of Portsmouth is, of course a unitary authority that >> does not come under the aegis of the Hampshire County Council. >> >> I think that I'm in danger of being pedantic, so I'll shut up. >> >> Regards >> John >> >> (By the way I have got the Drummond story about as far as I'm likely to >> get it in the next few years and if you would like to read it then let me >> know! It has taken rather a long time because of business and university >> commitments). >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Chris and Caroline" <chris@chayles.freeserve.co.uk> >> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 2:31 PM >> Subject: Re: [ENG-HANTS] Forton, Hampshire >> >> >>> Forton is not a parish in its own right, this is why you will not find >>> it on Parish Locator. >>> It is part of the parish of Alverstoke. >>> Alverstoke comprises the town and port of Gosport and is a suburb of >>> Portsmouth, the hamlets of Gosport, Forton, Anglesey, Elson and Hardway. >>> See our website for more >>> http://www.southernlife.org.uk/forton.htm >>> Chris >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "PMR" <cliveden@acenet.net.au> >>> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 12:10 PM >>> Subject: [ENG-HANTS] Forton, Hampshire >>> >>> >>>> Hello Listers >>>> >>>> I have seen reference on the List to the parish of Forton in >>>> Hampshire but can't find it on Parish Locator. Could someone tell me, >>>> please, how far it is from Alverstoke (I'm interested in checking out >>>> near-by parishes) and is it an 'ancient parish' or of more recent >>>> establishment? >>>> >>>> Many thanks. >>>> Pam >>>> >>>> cliveden@acenet.net.au >>>> >>>> Beaudesert, Queensland, Australia >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ============================== >>>> Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >>>> areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >>>> Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> ============================== >>> New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your >>> ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. >>> Learn more: >>> http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 >>> >>> >> >> >> >> ============================== >> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >> >> > > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

Well makes a change from them ranting about the Saints now that they are not in Div1!! The info I had was that Forton was in Alverstoke but thats near to Portsmouth by a few inches I think!! And I did say it was a suburb of Portsmouth not Portsmouth was a suburb of Alverstoke!! LOL Hope the Drummond piece is not too big, must be a year or more now since you started it!!! LOL You can always send me an abridged copy!! Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Orchard" <john.orchard4@btinternet.com> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 3:00 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-HANTS] Forton, Hampshire > Hi Chris > > I hear ranting on the streets of Gosport! "What's this?" I hear them cry, > "a suburb of Portsmouth - damned cheek!" > > The Borough of Gosport is quite, quite separate from its large neighbour > and is a borough council within the County of Hampshire's area of > interest.The City of Portsmouth is, of course a unitary authority that > does not come under the aegis of the Hampshire County Council. > > I think that I'm in danger of being pedantic, so I'll shut up. > > Regards > John > > (By the way I have got the Drummond story about as far as I'm likely to > get it in the next few years and if you would like to read it then let me > know! It has taken rather a long time because of business and university > commitments). > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chris and Caroline" <chris@chayles.freeserve.co.uk> > To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 2:31 PM > Subject: Re: [ENG-HANTS] Forton, Hampshire > > >> Forton is not a parish in its own right, this is why you will not find it >> on Parish Locator. >> It is part of the parish of Alverstoke. >> Alverstoke comprises the town and port of Gosport and is a suburb of >> Portsmouth, the hamlets of Gosport, Forton, Anglesey, Elson and Hardway. >> See our website for more >> http://www.southernlife.org.uk/forton.htm >> Chris >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "PMR" <cliveden@acenet.net.au> >> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 12:10 PM >> Subject: [ENG-HANTS] Forton, Hampshire >> >> >>> Hello Listers >>> >>> I have seen reference on the List to the parish of Forton in >>> Hampshire but can't find it on Parish Locator. Could someone tell me, >>> please, how far it is from Alverstoke (I'm interested in checking out >>> near-by parishes) and is it an 'ancient parish' or of more recent >>> establishment? >>> >>> Many thanks. >>> Pam >>> >>> cliveden@acenet.net.au >>> >>> Beaudesert, Queensland, Australia >>> >>> >>> >>> ============================== >>> Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >>> areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >>> Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >>> >>> >> >> >> ============================== >> New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your >> ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. >> Learn more: >> http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 >> >> > > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

1851 Census H107 1480 page 29 Cloisters, St Peters Westminster, London Hannah GREEN, Servant, unmarried, age 36, Housemaid, born East Woodhay, Hampshire Linda Tasmania, Australia

As Chris says, Forton was originally part of the parish of Alverstoke. It became a parish in its own right in 1841. The Forton parish registers date from 1840 for baptisms and 1841 for marriages and burials. Alan McGowan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris and Caroline" <chris@chayles.freeserve.co.uk> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 2:31 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-HANTS] Forton, Hampshire Forton is not a parish in its own right, this is why you will not find it on Parish Locator. It is part of the parish of Alverstoke. Alverstoke comprises the town and port of Gosport and is a suburb of Portsmouth, the hamlets of Gosport, Forton, Anglesey, Elson and Hardway. See our website for more http://www.southernlife.org.uk/forton.htm Chris

1851 Census H107 1480 page 16 29 Abingdon Street, St Margaret Westminster, London Sarah GARDINER, Servant, unmarried, age 34, Domestic, born Portsmouth, Hants 1851 Census H107 1480 page 17 and 18 Mews, Great College Street, St Margaret Westminster, London Richard NORTON, age 53, Livery Stables Keeper, born Stoke, Worcestershire Mary NORTON, wife, age 46, born Westminster Henry NORTON, son, age 14, born Paddington, Middlesex Eliza NORTON, dau, age 13, born Isle of Wight Louisa NORTON, dau, age 11, born Westminster Elinor NORTON, dau, age 7, born Westminster Alfred NORTON, son, age 2, born Westminster Alice NORTON, dau, age 3 months, born Westminster 1851 Census H107 1480 page 28 Cloisters, St Peters Westminster, London William Henry COPE, age 40, Priest Minor Canon of Westminster, born France British Subject Marianne COPE, wife, age 48, born Ireland Edward William COPE, son, age 13, scholar, born Sandhurst, Berkshire Teresa J. COPE, dau, age 10, scholar at home, born Easton, Hampshire Anthony COPE, son, age 9, scholar at home, born Easton, Hampshire Alice COPE, dau, age 6, scholar at home, born Chelsea, Middlesex Susanna Mary COPE, dau, age 2, born Westminster Mary Young LAWRENCE, Servant, unmarried, age 68, Nurse, born Isle of Wight Linda Tasmania, Australia

Hello Listers I have seen reference on the List to the parish of Forton in Hampshire but can't find it on Parish Locator. Could someone tell me, please, how far it is from Alverstoke (I'm interested in checking out near-by parishes) and is it an 'ancient parish' or of more recent establishment? Many thanks. Pam cliveden@acenet.net.au Beaudesert, Queensland, Australia

I need to unsubscribe for a while .but I can't find the original e-mail telling me how. Anyone out there more efficient than me who can send me details please? Thanks in advance.. Linda

thanks anyway Sandra your a gem ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandra J Smith" <sandra.s@ntlworld.com> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 6:00 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-HANTS] Certificates > Sorry, Bob, can't help with the 1851 censuses. However, on the 1841 > census age, remember that only children under 15 were recorded with an > accurate age, everyone else was supposed to be rounded down to the nearest > 5 years. I say supposed to be, before I get lots of posts saying that > accurate ages were sometimes recorded. > Given that people's memories of their ages was a little awry at times > anyway, it does mean that the 1841 ages were sometimes a long way off. I > certainly have one family where Mum and Dad were actually only a couple > of years apart in age, but in the 1841 census they appear to be 10 years > apart! > Regards > Sandra > > bob.newell@ntlworld.com wrote: > >> Thank you Sandra for your sympathy. It had to be this man, he is really >> causing me grief all the way through I have problems with him. He was a >> Baker journeyman and never at home at census times except for once in >> 1861. I think I have found him with his parents in the 1841 but his age >> there is wrong, you don't have the 1851 Sussex or Surrey Census up your >> sleeve by any chance do you, to see if he is there. >> >> Kind regards Bob Newell >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandra J Smith" >> <sandra.s@ntlworld.com> >> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 2:50 PM >> Subject: Re: [ENG-HANTS] Certificates >> >> >>> Bob, it was not necessary for a baby to have a name in order to be >>> registered. You see these frequently in the GRO indices as "Male" >>> Surname. On the birth certificate, there is a column for the name if >>> added after the registration, but I have never ever seen this used. To >>> most families of this era the most important event was the baptism when >>> the child would be given their names and they rarely considered it >>> necessary to inform the "authorities" >>> You also see them in the census too...just listed as "infant". >>> Unfortunately, you seem to have drawn the short straw in this case. >>> Regards >>> Sandra >>> >>> >>> bob.newell@ntlworld.com wrote: >>> >>>> Great Joy at finding a birth certificate for my brickwall Stephen >>>> NEWELL on the mat this morning only to find that there is no name under >>>> the name if any column. Is this a common occurrence or has the register >>>> clerk missed it off. Being Saturday of course they are closed. Has >>>> anyone had this before. >>>> >>>> Bo Newell >>>> >>>> ============================== >>>> Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. >>>> New content added every business day. Learn more: >>>> http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> ============================== >>> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >>> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >>> http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >>> >> >> >> ============================== >> View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find >> marriage announcements and more. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx >> >> >> > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >