Coming through clearly in New Zealand right now. Bryan A Curran Flagstaff, Hamilton New Zealand http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~origins/index.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris and Caroline" <chris@chayles.freeserve.co.uk> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 1:06 AM Subject: [ENG-HANTS] Radio Interview | Don't forget I am "Live" on Radio tonight (Mon 29 Aug) folks!! | Talking about our website Southern Life | Southern Counties also on the web!! | http://www.bbc.co.uk/kent/ click on BBC LOCAL RADIO, LISTEN LIVE on the | right hand side. | Time 8:15pm UK time. | | Chris | | | ============================== | Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the | last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx | |

Bob, Thank you so much. I will contact the person you suggest. I do have the exact date of Emma's death, so here's hoping she will be able to help me. Regards, Janice Belrose - Old Sydney Town. ----- Original Message ----- From: <bob.newell@ntlworld.com> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 7:52 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-HANTS] Kingston Cemetery, Portsea. > This is the person who keeps all the records of birth at Kingston > Cemetery. If you have the date of death or burial she will be able to tell > you if the person is there. She is a very nice and helpful person. her > name is Jackie Clark and her email is Jackie.Clark@portsmouthcc.gov.uk > Hope this helps > > Bob Newell

Patricia, if the George West you mentioned was a butcher and Fanny was 14 in 1850 I have some information you may find of interest. It's a bit involved so I won't go into it unless you confirm that we have the right people. Dorothy Morrissey Whakatane, NZ Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com

1851 Census H107 1480 page 774 5 Ship Court, St Margaret Westminster, London Hannah HELLING, married, age 32, Soldiers wife, born Ireland Margaret HELLING, dau, age 6, born Winton, Hants Richard HELLING, son, age 3, born Westminster Christopher HELLING, son, age 1, born Westminster 1851 Census H107 1480 page 775 6 Ship Court, St Margaret Westminster, London Sarah HENCHLIFF, married, age 32, Dressmaker, born Stratton, Hants Jane M. HENCHLIFF, dau, age 4, born Finsbury, Middlesex 1851 Census H107 1480 page 776 9 Ship Court, St Margaret Westminster, London Smith J. TAYLOR, age 58, Labourer, born Birstall, Yorkshire Hannah TAYLOR, wife, age 49, Laundress, born Isle of Wight Linda Tasmania, Australia

Thanks Brian Trouble asked people to tune in to Radio Solent to tape it for me and blow me if Radio Oxford and Radio Solent were the only two stations in the area that had football on!! Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: "origins" <origins@ihug.co.nz> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 8:22 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-HANTS] Radio Interview > Coming through clearly in New Zealand right now. > > Bryan A Curran > Flagstaff, Hamilton > New Zealand > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~origins/index.html > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chris and Caroline" <chris@chayles.freeserve.co.uk> > To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 1:06 AM > Subject: [ENG-HANTS] Radio Interview > > > | Don't forget I am "Live" on Radio tonight (Mon 29 Aug) folks!! > | Talking about our website Southern Life > | Southern Counties also on the web!! > | http://www.bbc.co.uk/kent/ click on BBC LOCAL RADIO, LISTEN LIVE on > the > | right hand side. > | Time 8:15pm UK time. > | > | Chris > | > | > | ============================== > | Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in > the > | last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > | > | > > > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > >

1851 Census H107 1480 page 770 10 York Terrace, St Margaret Westminster, London George HILL, age 31, Shoemaker, born Southampton, Hants Elizabeth HILL, wife, age 28, Shoe Binder, born Southampton, Hants George HILL, son, age 8, scholar, born Southampton, Hants William HILL, son, age 6, scholar, born Southampton, Hants Emma HILL, dau, age 3, born Westminster Edward HILL, son, age 1, born Westminster Linda Tasmania, Australia

1851 Census H107 1480 page 753 7 Kings Head Buildings, St Margaret Westminster, London James SHERWOOD, age 33, Costermonger, born Isle of Wight Mary SHERWOOD, wife, age 36, born Ireland 1851 Census H107 1480 page 754 8 Kings Head Buildings, St Margaret Westminster, London Robert JAKEMAN, age 85, Chelsea Pensioner, born Isle of Wight Sarah JAKEMAN, wife, age 74, born Reading, Berkshire At the same address as above: 8 Kings Head Buildings, but separate entry: Sarah BYE, married, age 30, Charwoman, born Southampton, Hants Louisa GOFF, widow, age 50, born Wisbech, Cambridgeshire Mary BYE, age 3, born Westminster (relationship status not given for any of the above) Linda Tasmania, Australia

Hi everyone, This is a special request for anyone who is living in Gosport, or who lived in Gosport between approx 1957 and 1988. I am putting together a new page on the family website, with details of the Albray Brothers hardware shop which was in Whitworth Road, just next door to the Post office. Is there anyone on the list that can recall going in to buy odds and ends? Do you have any memories of or stories relating to the shop at all? I'd very much like to compile comments from various people who used the shop, and put them on the website. I guess you could almost call it a memorial to the shop. If you would like to be a part of this, please contact me. E-mail: jonealogist@albray.co.uk Many thanks in advance, kind regards to all, Jon http://www.albray.co.uk -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.16/83 - Release Date: 8/26/05

1851 Census H107 1480 page 733 38 York Street, St Margaret Westminster, London Henry HARMSWORTH, age 24, Wine Porter, born North Warnborough, Hants Hannah HARMSWORTH, wife, age 27, born Amport, Hants 1851 Census H107 1480 page 750 3 Kings Head Buildings, St Margaret Westminster, London George HAYDEN, age 39, Labourer, born Andover, Hants Elizabeth HAYDEN, wife, age 34, born London Middlesex John HAYDEN, son, age 4, born Westminster Grace HAYDEN, dau, age 1, born Westminster 1851 Census H107 1480 page 751 4 Kings Head Buildings, St Margaret Westminster, London Alfred BOOTH, age 25, Porter, born St Margaret Westminster Isabella BOOTH, wife, age 24, born Portsmouth, Hants Emily BOOTH, dau, age 3, born Westminster Linda Tasmania, Australia

Don't forget I am "Live" on Radio tonight (Mon 29 Aug) folks!! Talking about our website Southern Life Southern Counties also on the web!! http://www.bbc.co.uk/kent/ click on BBC LOCAL RADIO, LISTEN LIVE on the right hand side. Time 8:15pm UK time. Chris

Was your George born in 1860? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dorothy Morrissey" <mamouse56@yahoo.co.nz> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 12:21 PM Subject: [ENG-HANTS] Not READ or LIEBERMAN but possibly WEST > Patricia, if the George West

Dear Angie, early Bubb family. People are researching this vast family on genesreunited - here are some ancient ones: Bubb of Kent Elizabeth, St. John, Margate,1690 Jane, St. John, Margate,1705 John, St. John, Margate,1716 Michael, St. John, Margate,1717 Reuben, St. John, Margate,1725 Robert, St. John, Margate,1684 Samuel, Burchington, 1710 Sarah, St. John, Margate,1708 William, St. John, Margate,1683 Zachariah, St. John, Margate,1718 Bubb of Gloucester Hannah, St. Johns, 1719 Jane, 1610 Mary, Farmington, 1702 William, Little Witcombe, 1594 Best regards, David

Good morning Listers, I am hoping SKS can assist me regarding a burial that may have taken place at Kingston Cemetery in the Sept quarter of 1871. The lady's name was Emma Christie (nee Tomkinson), 24 years of age, born in Liverpool in Sept 1846. At the time of the 1871 Census, she was with her husband, an Army Officer, born in Sydney, NSW, Australia in 1844, Edward Tolfrey Christie, at Claremont Lodge in Portsea. Edward was a Deputy, at the Commissionary Control Depot at Portsea in Hampshire. Emma died, the day she gave birth to a daughter, Emma. Both Emma the mother's death is registered, as is the birth of baby Emma. However, baby Emma cannot be found, in any records after her birth. Edward Tolfrey Christie, remarried, maybe in Ireland, to a Margaret Ramsay, as a son, William Edward Tolfrey Christie, was born in Ireland in 1878. There are a couple of questions, I hope can be answered, regarding Emma Christie and her burial. First, could Emma the baby have died, and seeing there would be two Emma Christie's dying on the same day, that when the records were transcribed, it was assumed that there was a duplication and only one death was transcribed? Second, would Emma the mother have been buried at Kingston Cemetery in Portsea? Third, if the baby did die at the same time as her mother, one can assume she would be buried with her mother? Would the Cemetery have records of a baby being buried with an adult? Hope someone can help with these questions. Regards, Janice Belrose - Old Sydney Town.

David thank you so much for the background on the name BUBB - It is so interesting to find out about the background to the names - What a shame you have all that info and it's not tied up to your wife's family - yet anyway. If I find the meaning of the name I will let you know. Thank you so much for all your help - I really do appreciate it. Roll on the 1841 and 18 51 on line! Cheers Angie ----- Original Message ----- From: "David DOWD" <david.dowd@tesco.net> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 7:32 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-HANTS] BUBB 1 851 Look Up > Dear Angie, > yes, there do seem to be rather a lot of them locally, I collected them > because I thought they might tie in with my wife's family, but no luck so > far. > The name is ancient, from Old English Bubba but I don't know what it > meant. First recorded in the Domesday Book of 1086 as Brictmar Bubba in > Suffolk; Henry Bubba in Hampshire Pipe Rolls 1173; William Bubbe in Curia > Regis Rolls for Dorset 1219. > > Melbury Bubb is a farm hamlet of 31 dwellings in Dorchester District, > North-west Dorset and is named from the Bubbe family who held the manor > even under the Normans (not unheard of, but they must have been > influential. The existing manor house, now a farm, is Elizabethan). > Though the modern church of St. Mary the Virgin dates from 1474, > Anglo-Saxon bits and pieces have survived. Behind the church Bubb Down > rises to form a wooded hill. In the 1690s a Mr. Baker, tenanting > Bublawns Farm, was murdered on Bubdown Hill and his ghost is said to haunt > the farm track. > > The family appear to have 'moved on' for there are none in the published > records from the 17th century. > > Best of luck in your endeavours, David > > > > > > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

Hi Folks The weekend Sat 10th & 11th Sept is an idea opportunity to find out more about your local area, or travel to the place you're researching. Its the National Heritage Weekend when many of our old buildings are open [some normally shut to the public] To find out more check out link below and choose a County _http://www.heritageopendays.org/ed/counties.shtml_ (http://www.heritageopendays.org/ed/counties.shtml) Take care Linda & Tony

Thanks kindly Richard. Much appreciated, Edna - Ottawa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Heaton" <rjheaton@hotmail.com> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2005 12:08 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-HANTS] Newspaper Update Just a note, I've added another heap of suspects to my newspaper transcripts, (about 4000) a number of Salisbury and Winchester Journals are included so there are a fair number of Hampshire references. There's now some 54,000 names in the index and any mistakes are entirely my fault ! So please let me know and I'll correct them later this year. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~dutillieul/ZOtherPapers/Index.html Richard J. Heaton ============================== Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. New content added every business day. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx

This is the person who keeps all the records of birth at Kingston Cemetery. If you have the date of death or burial she will be able to tell you if the person is there. She is a very nice and helpful person. her name is Jackie Clark and her email is Jackie.Clark@portsmouthcc.gov.uk Hope this helps Bob Newell ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janice Doughty" <adoughty01@optusnet.com.au> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2005 10:42 PM Subject: [ENG-HANTS] Kingston Cemetery, Portsea. > Good morning Listers, > > I am hoping SKS can assist me regarding a burial that may have taken place > at Kingston Cemetery in the Sept quarter of 1871. The lady's name was > Emma Christie (nee Tomkinson), 24 years of age, born in Liverpool in Sept > 1846. > > At the time of the 1871 Census, she was with her husband, an Army Officer, > born in Sydney, NSW, Australia in 1844, Edward Tolfrey Christie, at > Claremont Lodge in Portsea. Edward was a Deputy, at the Commissionary > Control Depot at Portsea in Hampshire. > > Emma died, the day she gave birth to a daughter, Emma. Both Emma the > mother's death is registered, as is the birth of baby Emma. However, baby > Emma cannot be found, in any records after her birth. Edward Tolfrey > Christie, remarried, maybe in Ireland, to a Margaret Ramsay, as a son, > William Edward Tolfrey Christie, was born in Ireland in 1878. There are a > couple of questions, I hope can be answered, regarding Emma Christie and > her burial. > > > First, could Emma the baby have died, and seeing there would be two Emma > Christie's dying on the same day, that when the records were transcribed, > it was assumed that there was a duplication and only one death was > transcribed? > > Second, would Emma the mother have been buried at Kingston Cemetery in > Portsea? > > Third, if the baby did die at the same time as her mother, one can assume > she would be buried with her mother? Would the Cemetery have records of a > baby being buried with an adult? > > Hope someone can help with these questions. > > Regards, > Janice > Belrose - Old Sydney Town. > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

Just a note, I've added another heap of suspects to my newspaper transcripts, (about 4000) a number of Salisbury and Winchester Journals are included so there are a fair number of Hampshire references. There's now some 54,000 names in the index and any mistakes are entirely my fault ! So please let me know and I'll correct them later this year. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~dutillieul/ZOtherPapers/Index.html Richard J. Heaton

1851 Census H107 1480 page 726 29 York Street, St Margaret Westminster, London Charles H. BURFORD, age 23, Theatrical, born St Pancras, Middlesex Louisa L. BURFORD, wife, age 30, Theatrical, born Isle of Wight Maria L. BURFORD, dau, age 7 months, born Westminster 1851 Census H107 1480 page 728 31 and 32 York Street, St Margaret Westminster, London Mary HEARTFREE, Servant, unmarried, age 20, House Servant, born Cove, Hants Linda Tasmania, Australia

hi Thelma, There was a book wrtitten about the Tichbourne inheritance. Published about 2002-2003, it dealt with the scam one man tried to pull after the heir was reported missing and he tried to claim the inheritance, there was an australian link, it made for very interesing reading, I can't remember the full title, it was something the Tichbourne claimant, but if you search on amazon.com I'm sure you will find it. Good luck Lynda. Thelma Werschke wrote: >Can anyone tell me any thing about TICHBORNE ESTATE my Great grandmother , Alice LANGRISH was born there 30th September 1851. >I have her birth certificate it says Registration District DROXFORD , Sub-District WESTMEON . She was the daughter of >Robert LANGRISH & Elizabeth SIMS. >A hand written note by her son says she was born in Hampshire , Midlands or Midleans , (the writing is poor not sure of this one name) on >TICHBORN ESTATE . Her father was a carpenter , I presume on the Estate . As far as I know all her 8 sisters and Alice were "in service " . >Any help would be greatly appreciated . >Thelma , Vernon, B.C. , > > >============================== >Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for >ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > > > >