Hi Nancy - 1861 details for William: 14 Peel Terrace, Alverstoke William R SEARLE 38 Captain Royal Marines. B Portsmouth Jane 30?. B Barbadoes, West Indies Sophy 15. B Barbadoes, West Indies Isadore (son - that's what it is entered as) 14. B Southsea, Hampshire Elizabeth DONDEY 34 Gen servant. B Alstead, Sussex. If you didn't get the occupation for 1871 it is 'Retired Col. on full pay'. So he's been 'promoted' and aged only 8 yrs in 10! Hope that helps a little. Cheers, Patsy - New Zealand. ><snip> > No, I haven't located Wm. Ramsay Searle on any other census - think > perhaps in 1861 index but haven't been bold enough > to ask SKS to check it for me. [Wm. R. Searle, birth 1823, location of > birth Hampshire; res. 1861, Hampshire]. > Family passed down no age at death, death date, place or burial info. or > what unit he was supposedly a Colonel > in. The "Ramsay" got passed down several generations so may be a clue; > and note he himself went by > "William Ramsay" not just William - christening, marriage, and christening > of daughter all refer to him as > William Ramsay Searle. > > as for daughter Sophia Jane, found her christening on IGI - Sept. 11, > 1846, also at St Mary's Portsea (same as her dad) > so will probably let her rest for a bit & chase her Dad. > > Wm. Ramsay's wife Jane Abel Searle --- I cannot find her in index of 1871 > census; think I have her on index of 1861 census > [jane searle, b 1826 loc barbados, ccivil location; res. 1861, Hampshire] > but haven't asked anyone to look up the details. > 1881 census she's a boarder, widow age 50, ? London I think --------- > 1891 she's 57 , widow, born in > Barbados, living at 21 Richmond road, Paddington, & 13 yr. old grandson > willie with her - 1901 she's, according to index, > in Brighton, and BMD lists her death in June quarter 1901 in Brighton. > Family had said she lived in London and brighton > beach in later years! > > And son Theodore - well, I'm working on > him.........................................Nancy > >

Hi Erica - not much to add but there is a Lewis TURRELL born 1830 in Lewes, Sussex in 1851. He is in the household of William and Ann CHIPP 56 Great Russell St. Brighthelmston, sussex. Occupation general labourer. William CHIPP is a ships carpenter and Lewes is just north of Brighton. Curiously there is a marriage on Pallots Marriage Index for a Lewis TURRELL to Mary MORLEY, in Soho 1828. May turn out to be unrelated but perhaps worth tucking away. It's possible that if you put a query on the Sussex list that someone may have access to the 1841 for Lewes (although I suspect it is pretty large). Hope this helps a little. Cheers, Patsy - New Zealand. > Hello there, my name is Erica and im searching for an ancestor called > Lewis Turrell. Born in 1828 Brighton, England. He married Eliza Ann Evans > in 1857 and then had a child named Kate Eliza Turrell who was christened > on the 25/11/1857 Lambeth, Surrey, England. They then travelled to New > Zealand on the Boat Harword and had 3 more children. Clara Elizabeth, > Sydney George and Arthur Lewis. > Lewis Turrell died on the 11/08/1911 in Thames, New Zealand. > I'm stuck on Lewis and cannot find any birth or even marriage record. Any > info would help, > > Kind regards, > Erica W. > >

Hello there, my name is Erica and im searching for an ancestor called Lewis Turrell. Born in 1828 Brighton, England. He married Eliza Ann Evans in 1857 and then had a child named Kate Eliza Turrell who was christened on the 25/11/1857 Lambeth, Surrey, England. They then travelled to New Zealand on the Boat Harword and had 3 more children. Clara Elizabeth, Sydney George and Arthur Lewis. Lewis Turrell died on the 11/08/1911 in Thames, New Zealand. I'm stuck on Lewis and cannot find any birth or even marriage record. Any info would help, Kind regards, Erica W.

1851 Census H107 1496 page 1695 4 Goldington Street North, St Pancras, London Thomas LLOYD, age 28, Piano Forte Maker, born Andover, Hants Elizabeth Ann LLOYD, wife, age 29, born Clerkenwell, Middlesex Thomas LLOYD, son, age 6, born Marylebone, Middlesex Elizabeth A. LLOYD, dau, age 4, born St Pancras Charles LLOYD, son, age 2, born St Pancras Alfred LLOYD, son, age 6 months, born St Pancras Linda Tasmania, Australia

1851 Census H107 1496 page 1684 15 Aldenham Terrace, St Pancras, London Charles NOYCE, age 76, Retired Schoolmaster, born Harbridge, Hampshire Elizabeth NOYCE, wife, age 67, born Hartley Row, Hampshire 1851 Census H107 1496 page 1688 1 Goldington Street, St Pancras, London Mary ANGEL, married, age 35, wife of Carpenter, born Barham, Norfolk Harriet ANGEL, dau, age 12, born St Pancras Samuel ANGEL, son, age 10, scholar, born St Pancras Henry ANGEL, son, age 7, scholar, born Isle of Wight Mary ANGEL, dau, age 5, scholar, born Clerkenwell, Middlesex Jane ANGEL, dau, age 5, scholar, born Clerkenwell, Middlesex John ANGEL, son, age 3, born Clerkenwell, Middlesex 1851 Census H107 1496 page 1690 and 1691 5 Goldington Street, St Pancras, London Benjamin JOHNSON, age 22, Master Shoemaker, born Worcester, Worcestershire Mary A. JOHNSON, wife, age 26, Shoe Binder, born Crondall, Hampshire Frances JOHNSON, dau, age 4, born St Pancras Benjamin JOHNSON, son, age 2, born St Pancras John JOHNSON, son, age 7 months, born St Pancras Linda Tasmania, Australia

Hi all, Can any one locate Elizabeth CHITTLE born about 1817. She was possibly born in Thatcham Berkshire . By 1851 she is the house keeper of David WEST, living in Tadley with at least 4 children by the name of CHITTLE. BY 1861 she has had 4 more children and still living with David WEST in Tadley By 1871 she is Elizabeth WEST. How about a marriage for these two David WEST and Elizabeth Chittle. This links to my search for George WEST born about 1848 in Tadley.

THANK YOU, OH THANK YOU, Patsy. What fun this family is and how much I appreciate all the help everyone is giving me. Theodore - Isadore - makes sense but I never would have thought of it..... Thanks again. Nancy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patricia O'Shea" <pkoshea@xtra.co.nz> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2005 5:55 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-HANTS] 1871 census - SEARLE > Hi Nancy - 1861 details for William: > > 14 Peel Terrace, Alverstoke > William R SEARLE 38 Captain Royal Marines. B Portsmouth > Jane 30?. B Barbadoes, West Indies > Sophy 15. B Barbadoes, West Indies > Isadore (son - that's what it is entered as) 14. B Southsea, Hampshire > Elizabeth DONDEY 34 Gen servant. B Alstead, Sussex. > > If you didn't get the occupation for 1871 it is 'Retired Col. on full > pay'. So he's been 'promoted' and aged only 8 yrs in 10! > > Hope that helps a little. > Cheers, Patsy - New Zealand. > > >><snip> >> No, I haven't located Wm. Ramsay Searle on any other census - think >> perhaps in 1861 index but haven't been bold enough >> to ask SKS to check it for me. [Wm. R. Searle, birth 1823, location of >> birth Hampshire; res. 1861, Hampshire]. >> Family passed down no age at death, death date, place or burial info. or >> what unit he was supposedly a Colonel >> in. The "Ramsay" got passed down several generations so may be a clue; >> and note he himself went by >> "William Ramsay" not just William - christening, marriage, and >> christening of daughter all refer to him as >> William Ramsay Searle. >> >> as for daughter Sophia Jane, found her christening on IGI - Sept. 11, >> 1846, also at St Mary's Portsea (same as her dad) >> so will probably let her rest for a bit & chase her Dad. >> >> Wm. Ramsay's wife Jane Abel Searle --- I cannot find her in index of >> 1871 census; think I have her on index of 1861 census >> [jane searle, b 1826 loc barbados, ccivil location; res. 1861, Hampshire] >> but haven't asked anyone to look up the details. >> 1881 census she's a boarder, widow age 50, ? London I think --------- >> 1891 she's 57 , widow, born in >> Barbados, living at 21 Richmond road, Paddington, & 13 yr. old grandson >> willie with her - 1901 she's, according to index, >> in Brighton, and BMD lists her death in June quarter 1901 in Brighton. >> Family had said she lived in London and brighton >> beach in later years! >> >> And son Theodore - well, I'm working on >> him.........................................Nancy >> >> > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.13/126 - Release Date: 10/9/2005 > >

Hi, I need a marriage lookup for Ann Parfect (Parfitt) & Thomas Burmingham 14 Jun 1846 in Headley, or Kingsley, Hampshire. Also Sarah Parfect (Parfitt) & James Culver 31 Dec 1847 Headley or Kingsley, Hampshire. Thomas Parfect (Parfitt) & Sarah Berry 14 Apr 1866 in Headley or Kingsley, Hampshire. Any help on these family members is greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance for any assistance. Regards, Gwen

it is two different requests ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Nelson" <atgn@elder53.fsnet.co.uk> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2005 6:11 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-HANTS] Census 1891 date > Dont understand the message The census reports the facts as they were on > April 05 1891 and what happens in the next quarter has absolutely no > bearing on the census > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "jean flanagan" <jeancflanagan@blueyonder.co.uk> > To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2005 3:12 PM > Subject: Re: [ENG-HANTS] Census 1891 date > > >> Hi Bob, Census date was 5 April 1891, June quartet would cover APRIL,MAY >> AND >> JUNE. Regards Jean >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <bob.newell@ntlworld.com> >> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2005 3:07 PM >> Subject: [ENG-HANTS] Census 1891 date >> >> >>> Can someone tell me what the date of the census for 1891 was and what >> period >>> does the June quarter cover >>> >>> Bob >>> >>> >>> ============================== >>> Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. >>> Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> ============================== >> Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >> areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >> Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >> >> > > > > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx >

Two separate questions I think. No probs here with message. I am happy they asked as I have printed off dates and can then better judge ages of person. Or whether the person is still alive for census for that year if you know death date. Very useful. Best wishes, Sandra Alan Nelson <atgn@elder53.fsnet.co.uk> wrote: Dont understand the message The census reports the facts as they were on April 05 1891 and what happens in the next quarter has absolutely no bearing on the census ----- Original Message ----- From: "jean flanagan" To: Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2005 3:12 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-HANTS] Census 1891 date > Hi Bob, Census date was 5 April 1891, June quartet would cover APRIL,MAY > AND > JUNE. Regards Jean > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2005 3:07 PM > Subject: [ENG-HANTS] Census 1891 date > > >> Can someone tell me what the date of the census for 1891 was and what > period >> does the June quarter cover >> >> Bob >> >> >> ============================== >> Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. >> Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx >> >> >> > > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > ============================== Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. New content added every business day. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx

Dont understand the message The census reports the facts as they were on April 05 1891 and what happens in the next quarter has absolutely no bearing on the census ----- Original Message ----- From: "jean flanagan" <jeancflanagan@blueyonder.co.uk> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2005 3:12 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-HANTS] Census 1891 date > Hi Bob, Census date was 5 April 1891, June quartet would cover APRIL,MAY > AND > JUNE. Regards Jean > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <bob.newell@ntlworld.com> > To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2005 3:07 PM > Subject: [ENG-HANTS] Census 1891 date > > >> Can someone tell me what the date of the census for 1891 was and what > period >> does the June quarter cover >> >> Bob >> >> >> ============================== >> Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. >> Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx >> >> >> > > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

Thank you everyone I am now a bit wiser Bob

Bob - reply to your message of 10/2 i've been away - - re: William Ramsay Searle - IGI says he was christened 04 JUN 1824, St. Mary's, Portsea, s/o Richard Searle and Sophia; I have no bd or bpl IGI says he married 9 June 1845 St. Michael's, Barbados, Jane Abel Leacock (family said he mar. Jane or "JA"/so agreement there). Fam. story says 2 children, Sophie, unmar., & Theodore or Wm. Theodore; that Wm. Ramsay was a Colonel (and, not yet aware his son had left home, lied about his age,& changed his name,) inspected the troop not recognizing his son; this would have been between 1866 and 1876 as son married in Halifax in 1876 under name of Staples. Only other family info on Wm. Ramsay is that he and Jane divorced, that's one reason I had hoped to find Jane and kids with him in 1871 to pin down date/time of separation. (incidently, have found Jane on serveral census' listing herself as a widow!). 'guess I need to break down and pay to get a copy of her death records listed on free bmd as June quarter 1901 in Brighton. No, I haven't located Wm. Ramsay Searle on any other census - think perhaps in 1861 index but haven't been bold enough to ask SKS to check it for me. [Wm. R. Searle, birth 1823, location of birth Hampshire; res. 1861, Hampshire]. Family passed down no age at death, death date, place or burial info. or what unit he was supposedly a Colonel in. The "Ramsay" got passed down several generations so may be a clue; and note he himself went by "William Ramsay" not just William - christening, marriage, and christening of daughter all refer to him as William Ramsay Searle. as for daughter Sophia Jane, found her christening on IGI - Sept. 11, 1846, also at St Mary's Portsea (same as her dad) so will probably let her rest for a bit & chase her Dad. Wm. Ramsay's wife Jane Abel Searle --- I cannot find her in index of 1871 census; think I have her on index of 1861 census [jane searle, b 1826 loc barbados, ccivil location; res. 1861, Hampshire] but haven't asked anyone to look up the details. 1881 census she's a boarder, widow age 50, ? London I think --------- 1891 she's 57 , widow, born in Barbados, living at 21 Richmond road, Paddington, & 13 yr. old grandson willie with her - 1901 she's, according to index, in Brighton, and BMD lists her death in June quarter 1901 in Brighton. Family had said she lived in London and brighton beach in later years! And son Theodore - well, I'm working on him.........................................Nancy ----- Original Message ----- From: <bob.newell@ntlworld.com> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2005 7:34 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-HANTS] 1871 census > > can you give me any other details of this family birth dates of children > and wife. have you found him them in any other census > > bob > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "john wakefield" <nlwake@adelphia.net> > To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 12:27 AM > Subject: Re: [ENG-HANTS] 1871 census > > >> Bob - can you read what it says under occupation? >> thanks. Nancy >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <bob.newell@ntlworld.com> >> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2005 6:59 PM >> Subject: Re: [ENG-HANTS] 1871 census >> >> >>> Hi Nancy have your man living as a lodger at 11 looks like Newland Rd >>> Broadwater Sussex married age 46 b Portsea. if you want the census image >>> I can send it to you >>> >>> Bob >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "john wakefield" <nlwake@adelphia.net> >>> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2005 10:38 PM >>> Subject: [ENG-HANTS] 1871 census >>> >>> >>>> Is there sks who has access to the 1871 census who would be willing >>>> to look up the following person who hopefully is my gg grandfather. >>>> The brief information I have came from Ancestry.com >>>> listing for non-members. >>>> >>>> William Ramsay Searle birth 1825, location Hampshire, >>>> England >>>> civil location >>>> residence 1871 Sussex, England >>>> >>>> With thanks, Nancy >>>> >>>> >>>> ============================== >>>> Search the US Census Collection. 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Hi Bob The 1891 census was taken on 5th April. The census dates are as follows; 1841 - 6th June 1851 - 30th March 1861 - 7th April 1871 - 2nd April 1881 - 3rd April 1891 - 5th April 1901 - 31st March June quarter covers April, May and June. HTH Best wishes Ally ----- Original Message ----- From: <bob.newell@ntlworld.com> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2005 3:07 PM Subject: [ENG-HANTS] Census 1891 date > Can someone tell me what the date of the census for 1891 was and what > period does the June quarter cover > > Bob > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx >

Thank you Jean that's great Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "jean flanagan" <jeancflanagan@blueyonder.co.uk> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2005 3:12 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-HANTS] Census 1891 date > Hi Bob, Census date was 5 April 1891, June quartet would cover APRIL,MAY > AND > JUNE. Regards Jean > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <bob.newell@ntlworld.com> > To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2005 3:07 PM > Subject: [ENG-HANTS] Census 1891 date > > >> Can someone tell me what the date of the census for 1891 was and what > period >> does the June quarter cover >> >> Bob >> >> >> ============================== >> Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. >> Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx >> >> >> > > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

Hi Bob, Census date was 5 April 1891, June quartet would cover APRIL,MAY AND JUNE. Regards Jean ----- Original Message ----- From: <bob.newell@ntlworld.com> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2005 3:07 PM Subject: [ENG-HANTS] Census 1891 date > Can someone tell me what the date of the census for 1891 was and what period > does the June quarter cover > > Bob > > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > >

Can someone tell me what the date of the census for 1891 was and what period does the June quarter cover Bob

Hi just checking the list Bob

Can someone tell me the Census date in 1891 please Bob

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