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    1. Authentication Request?
    2. Sandra J Smith
    3. Have I missed something? I just had an email from this mailing list saying that my posting to the list would not be delivered until I had gone to dropspam for authentication. I wasnt aware that such a thing had been introduced on the rootsweb mailing lists. Could someone explain please? Sandra

    10/10/2005 04:48:16
    1. Re: [ENG-HANTS] Bankruptcy
    2. Sandra J Smith
    3. Judy, I am not an expert, but if a company goes "bankrupt" it goes into liquidation and if it is a limited company with directors, they are only liable to the value of their shares in the company. However in your case it is the individual who is bankrupt, so he would have lost everything he owned including a sole-trading business or his share in a non-limited partnership. Sandra Judy Bingham wrote: >Hi -- > >I'm new to the list and am hoping someone can help me out with this. My 2ggrandfather, John James Dunn Oland, after being married in Bristol, traveled around (presumably job related) and by at least 1856 wound up on a farm named Greyshott, in Headley parish. At one point he started a business in Haslemere called Oland & Bridge (auctioneers, appraisers, house and general estate agents) which was doing business in 1859. The wrinkle comes in 1865 in the months just prior to the family's immigration to Nova Scotia. Two bankruptcy notices were posted which read as follows: > >January 28, 1865 >The Bankruptcy Act, 1861 > In the county Court of Surrey, holden at Farnham, in the matter of John James Dunn Oland, of Grayshott, in the Parish of Headley, in the County of Southhampton, Auctioneer, adjudged Bankrupt on the 3rd day of October, 1864. > An order of Discharge will be delivered to the Bankrupt after the expiration of thirty days from this date unless an appeal be duly entered against the Judgement of the Court, and notice thereof be given to the Court. James Harris, High Bailiff > >2nd one: > >January 14, 1865 >Bankrupts. > John James Oland, of Headley, farmer, also passed, and recieved his order and discharge. > >So my questions are: > >1. Do these mean that just the business was bankrupt or does it mean that the farm went under as well? (I don't know if he was leasing the farm or owned it.) > >2. Is there any way of tracking down whether John owned the land? (The LDS Church doesn't appear to have anything on microfilm.) > >3. Is there any way of finding out more about this Oland & Bridge? > >I'd be most grateful for any insight into this -- >Judy Bingham >Fullerton, California > > > > >============================== >Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > >

    10/10/2005 04:19:55
    1. Re: [ENG-HANTS] Missing Daughter
    2. That is the mother of Mary who was the second wife of Thomas HOLLIS . Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "liz" <liz.cherry1@ntlworld.com> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 7:37 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-HANTS] Missing Daughter > Hi Bob > > There is a Mercy Bewsey listed on Free BMD birth September quarter 1841 at > Portsea Island could this be your Mary Bewsey on 1851 census? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <bob.newell@ntlworld.com> > To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 7:09 PM > Subject: Re: [ENG-HANTS] Missing Daughter > > >> I was remiss in adding the place of the census etc and I apologise all >> the >> events were in Portsea and Portsmouth and also the year of the Census is >> incorrect as well it was the 1851 and in 1861 she was not there she was > not >> there. I think it will be easier if I list my notes so you can see them. >> Here are all my notes on the family >> Thomas Hollis DOB possibly 01 Sep 1816 at Northwood IOW. Parents Probably >> Thomas Hollis of Cowes IOW and Elizabeth Mrs Dunn ( Both the father and > son >> were bakers). >> >> 1851 Microfilm HO107/1657/533 >> >> Thos Hollis, Head, Married, age 34, Shoemaker (3 men) born on the Isle of >> Wight. >> >> Mary do, Wife, M, age 41, b Portsea >> >> Lydia Ann, do, Dau, age obscured, Schol, b Portsea. >> >> Mary Bewsey, Dau in Law, age 9, Schol, b Portsea >> >> Hannah, do, Dau in law, age 7, Shol, b Portsea >> >> Mary Maylan, Niece, Unmarried, age 20, B Portsea >> >> Hana (sic), Mother in Law, widow, age 77, Born Margate , Kent. >> >> 1861 Census RG 9/632 13 20Residence 226 Great Charlotte Street, >> >> Thomas Hollis, Head, 45, Shoemaker, WEST COWES Isle of Wight >> >> Mary (we know it is Mercy), wife, 50, Landport. >> >> Lydia, dau, 18, Needlework, Landport. >> >> Thos. Wm., son, 10, Scholar, Landport. >> >> George, son, 8, Scholar, Landport. (note - no other family with them) >> >> 1871 RG10/1140 FOL 35 PG 3 >> >> Mercy and Son are living alone at 60 Fratton street and she is listed as >> a >> widow >> >> Thomas probably died between Died between 1861 and 1871 >> >> >> >> Regards Bob >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "liz" <liz.cherry1@ntlworld.com> >> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com>Snip >> >> >> ============================== >> Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for >> ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx >> > > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx >

    10/10/2005 02:22:48
    1. Re: [ENG-HANTS] Missing Daughter
    2. liz
    3. Hi Bob There is a Mercy Bewsey listed on Free BMD birth September quarter 1841 at Portsea Island could this be your Mary Bewsey on 1851 census? ----- Original Message ----- From: <bob.newell@ntlworld.com> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 7:09 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-HANTS] Missing Daughter > I was remiss in adding the place of the census etc and I apologise all the > events were in Portsea and Portsmouth and also the year of the Census is > incorrect as well it was the 1851 and in 1861 she was not there she was not > there. I think it will be easier if I list my notes so you can see them. > Here are all my notes on the family > Thomas Hollis DOB possibly 01 Sep 1816 at Northwood IOW. Parents Probably > Thomas Hollis of Cowes IOW and Elizabeth Mrs Dunn ( Both the father and son > were bakers). > > 1851 Microfilm HO107/1657/533 > > Thos Hollis, Head, Married, age 34, Shoemaker (3 men) born on the Isle of > Wight. > > Mary do, Wife, M, age 41, b Portsea > > Lydia Ann, do, Dau, age obscured, Schol, b Portsea. > > Mary Bewsey, Dau in Law, age 9, Schol, b Portsea > > Hannah, do, Dau in law, age 7, Shol, b Portsea > > Mary Maylan, Niece, Unmarried, age 20, B Portsea > > Hana (sic), Mother in Law, widow, age 77, Born Margate , Kent. > > 1861 Census RG 9/632 13 20Residence 226 Great Charlotte Street, > > Thomas Hollis, Head, 45, Shoemaker, WEST COWES Isle of Wight > > Mary (we know it is Mercy), wife, 50, Landport. > > Lydia, dau, 18, Needlework, Landport. > > Thos. Wm., son, 10, Scholar, Landport. > > George, son, 8, Scholar, Landport. (note - no other family with them) > > 1871 RG10/1140 FOL 35 PG 3 > > Mercy and Son are living alone at 60 Fratton street and she is listed as a > widow > > Thomas probably died between Died between 1861 and 1871 > > > > Regards Bob > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "liz" <liz.cherry1@ntlworld.com> > To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com>Snip > > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx >

    10/10/2005 01:37:19
    1. Re: [ENG-HANTS] Missing Daughter
    2. I was remiss in adding the place of the census etc and I apologise all the events were in Portsea and Portsmouth and also the year of the Census is incorrect as well it was the 1851 and in 1861 she was not there she was not there. I think it will be easier if I list my notes so you can see them. Here are all my notes on the family Thomas Hollis DOB possibly 01 Sep 1816 at Northwood IOW. Parents Probably Thomas Hollis of Cowes IOW and Elizabeth Mrs Dunn ( Both the father and son were bakers). 1851 Microfilm HO107/1657/533 Thos Hollis, Head, Married, age 34, Shoemaker (3 men) born on the Isle of Wight. Mary do, Wife, M, age 41, b Portsea Lydia Ann, do, Dau, age obscured, Schol, b Portsea. Mary Bewsey, Dau in Law, age 9, Schol, b Portsea Hannah, do, Dau in law, age 7, Shol, b Portsea Mary Maylan, Niece, Unmarried, age 20, B Portsea Hana (sic), Mother in Law, widow, age 77, Born Margate , Kent. 1861 Census RG 9/632 13 20Residence 226 Great Charlotte Street, Thomas Hollis, Head, 45, Shoemaker, WEST COWES Isle of Wight Mary (we know it is Mercy), wife, 50, Landport. Lydia, dau, 18, Needlework, Landport. Thos. Wm., son, 10, Scholar, Landport. George, son, 8, Scholar, Landport. (note - no other family with them) 1871 RG10/1140 FOL 35 PG 3 Mercy and Son are living alone at 60 Fratton street and she is listed as a widow Thomas probably died between Died between 1861 and 1871 Regards Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "liz" <liz.cherry1@ntlworld.com> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com>Snip

    10/10/2005 01:09:18
    1. Re: [ENG-HANTS] Missing Daughter
    2. Silly me in Portsea Portsmouth ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Nelson" <atgn@elder53.fsnet.co.uk> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 6:11 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-HANTS] Missing Daughter > Where > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <bob.newell@ntlworld.com> > To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 1:28 PM > Subject: [ENG-HANTS] Missing Daughter > > >> Hi all, looking for the missing daughter Mary BEWSEY b abt 1842 to Joseph >> BEWSEY and Mercy Clayton. She was last listed living with Mercy and her >> new husband Thomas HOLLIS in the 1861 census listed as Mary BEWSEY age 9 >> and nothing after that. Also looking for the death of Thomas HOLLIS >> between 1861 and 1871 his dob is was abt 1816. >> >> Regards Bob Newell >> >> ============================== >> Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >> areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >> Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >> >> >> > > > > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 >

    10/10/2005 12:58:23
    1. Re: [ENG-HANTS] Missing Daughter
    2. liz
    3. Hi Bob I see that on the Free BMD site the birth is listed of a Mary Ann Bewsey in June quarter 1847 at Wincanton, spans counties of Dorset and Somerset, the next one listed is Mary Ann at Islington in the September quarter 1853. You say that she was born about 1842 but the one you have quoted in 1861 census says Mary Bewsey age 9 so is this right? With regard to Thomas Hollis there are a lot of deats listed, would need to know where he was on the 1861 census Regards Liz at Lincoln ----- Original Message ----- From: <bob.newell@ntlworld.com> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 1:28 PM Subject: [ENG-HANTS] Missing Daughter > Hi all, looking for the missing daughter Mary BEWSEY b abt 1842 to Joseph > BEWSEY and Mercy Clayton. She was last listed living with Mercy and her new > husband Thomas HOLLIS in the 1861 census listed as Mary BEWSEY age 9 and > nothing after that. Also looking for the death of Thomas HOLLIS between 1861 > and 1871 his dob is was abt 1816. > > Regards Bob Newell > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

    10/10/2005 12:42:18
    1. RE: Lucretia Jacobs Portsmouth
    2. Terry Wells
    3. -----Original Message----- From: liz [mailto:liz.cherry1@ntlworld.com] Sent: 10 October 2005 08:21 To: ENG-HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Lucretia Jacobs Portsmouth Hi Still looking for any information about Lucretia Jacobs. <snip> All I know about her is that she married Private George Page of the Barracks Portsmouth in October 1911. (he was kia April 1918) <snip> Liz at Lincoln ______________________________ Liz, I assume you have seen the entry for George at http://www.cwgc.org/cwgcinternet/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=1635889 Regards, Terry

    10/10/2005 12:22:54
    1. Re: [ENG-HANTS] Missing Daughter
    2. Alan Nelson
    3. Where ----- Original Message ----- From: <bob.newell@ntlworld.com> To: <ENG-HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 1:28 PM Subject: [ENG-HANTS] Missing Daughter > Hi all, looking for the missing daughter Mary BEWSEY b abt 1842 to Joseph > BEWSEY and Mercy Clayton. She was last listed living with Mercy and her > new husband Thomas HOLLIS in the 1861 census listed as Mary BEWSEY age 9 > and nothing after that. Also looking for the death of Thomas HOLLIS > between 1861 and 1871 his dob is was abt 1816. > > Regards Bob Newell > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > >

    10/10/2005 12:11:10
    1. Re: [ENG-HANTS] 1871 census - SEARLE
    2. Patricia O'Shea
    3. Hi again Nancy - glad to help. I've been looking around for the others but just no sign no matter what trick I use. Could they have been overseas in 1871? I suppose the answer is yes!! they could. I'll keep looking and let you know. Cheers, Patsy > THANK YOU, OH THANK YOU, Patsy. > What fun this family is and how much I appreciate > all the help everyone is giving me. Theodore - Isadore - > makes sense but I never would have thought of it..... > Thanks again. Nancy >

    10/10/2005 10:27:54
    1. COPPINS stray 1851 Census
    2. Linda Hardy
    3. 1851 Census H107 1496 page 1711 8 Dears Place, St Pancras, London Sarah COPPINS, widow, age 56, Tailoress, born Minstead, Hants Henry COPPINS, son, unmarried, age 22, Porter, born Ireland Sarah COPPINS, dau, unmarried, age 20, Laundress, born St Pancras George COPPINS, son, age 14, Errand Boy, born St Pancras at the same address as above: 8 Dears Place, but separate entry: Ann COPPINS, unmarried, age 49, Laundress, born Minstead, Hants Linda Tasmania, Australia

    10/10/2005 10:09:16
    1. WILLIAMS, CHURCHER, PAYNE stray 1851 Census
    2. Linda Hardy
    3. 1851 Census H107 1496 page 1706 41 Goldington Street North, St Pancras, London Frederick WILLIAMS, age 24, Butchers Assistant, born St Pancras Sarah WILLIAMS, wife, age 26, born Bramshott, Hants Frederick J. WILLIAMS, son, age 3, born St Pancras Alfred WILLIAMS, son, age 1, born St Pancras 1851 Census H107 1496 page 1706 1 Dears Place, St Pancras, London William CHURCHER, age 54, Coal Dealer, born Winchester, Hants Mary Ann CHURCHER, wife, age 54, born Suffolk William CHURCHER, son, unmarried, age 24, Coal Dealer, born Clerkenwell, Middlesex 1851 Census H107 1496 page 1707 2 Dears Place, St Pancras, London Charles PAYNE, unmarried, age 18, Pastry Cook, born Southampton, Hants Mary SIMPSON, Cousin, unmarried, age 27, Seamstress, born Clerkenwell, Middlesex Linda Tasmania, Australia

    10/10/2005 10:09:08
    1. LINSELL, KEMP, KEEBLE stray 1851 Census
    2. Linda Hardy
    3. 1851 Census H107 1496 page 1701 13 Goldington Street North, St Pancras, London Charles LINSELL, age 27, Print Colorer, born City of London Louisa LINSELL, wife, age 24, born St Pancras Louisa LINSELL, dau, age 5 months, born St Pancras Sarah LINSELL, Mother, widow, age 70, born Isle of Wight 1851 Census H107 1496 page 1701 14 Goldington Street North, St Pancras, London Charles KEMP, age 29, Policeman, born Froyle, Hants Susan KEMP, wife, age 27, born Taplow, Berkshire Daniel KEMP, Brother, unmarried, age 25, Plasterer, born Froyle, Hants Mary KEMP, Mother, married, age 59, born Froyle, Hants 1851 Census H107 1496 page 1703 36 Goldington Street North, St Pancras, London Abraham KEEBLE, age 32, Railway Servant, born Hampstead, Middlesex Anne KEEBLE, wife, age 30, born Portsmouth, Hants Alfred W. KEEBLE, son, age 2, born St Pancras Matilda KEEBLE, dau, age 11 months, born St Pancras Linda Tasmania, Australia

    10/10/2005 10:09:00
    1. Re: [ENG-HANTS] Bankruptcy
    2. Judy Bingham
    3. Hi Richard -- Thanks so much for the suggestion. I'll certainly follow up -- Judy Richard Heaton <rjheaton@hotmail.com> wrote: Judy, You might find more details in the local paper, possibly the Hampshire Telegraph or Chronicle (certainly earlier years frequently advertised sales of Bankrupts effects, and estates) might be a starter. I believe the Telegraph will be available probably 2006 on line via the British Newspaper Library. Cheers Richard Heaton ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judy Bingham" To: Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 9:57 PM Subject: [ENG-HANTS] Bankruptcy > Hi -- > > I'm new to the list and am hoping someone can help me out with this. My > 2ggrandfather, John James Dunn Oland, after being married in Bristol, > traveled around (presumably job related) and by at least 1856 wound up on > a farm named Greyshott, in Headley parish. At one point he started a > business in Haslemere called Oland & Bridge (auctioneers, appraisers, > house and general estate agents) which was doing business in 1859. The > wrinkle comes in 1865 in the months just prior to the family's immigration > to Nova Scotia. Two bankruptcy notices were posted which read as follows: > > January 28, 1865 > The Bankruptcy Act, 1861 > In the county Court of Surrey, holden at Farnham, in the matter of > John James Dunn Oland, of Grayshott, in the Parish of Headley, in the > County of Southhampton, Auctioneer, adjudged Bankrupt on the 3rd day of > October, 1864. > An order of Discharge will be delivered to the Bankrupt after the > expiration of thirty days from this date unless an appeal be duly entered > against the Judgement of the Court, and notice thereof be given to the > Court. James Harris, High Bailiff > > 2nd one: > > January 14, 1865 > Bankrupts. > John James Oland, of Headley, farmer, also passed, and recieved his > order and discharge. > > So my questions are: > > 1. Do these mean that just the business was bankrupt or does it mean that > the farm went under as well? (I don't know if he was leasing the farm or > owned it.) > > 2. Is there any way of tracking down whether John owned the land? (The > LDS Church doesn't appear to have anything on microfilm.) > > 3. Is there any way of finding out more about this Oland & Bridge? > > I'd be most grateful for any insight into this -- > Judy Bingham > Fullerton, California > > > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

    10/10/2005 09:14:41
    1. Re: [ENG-HANTS] Bankruptcy
    2. Judy Bingham
    3. Hi John -- Appreciate your response. But how does the discharge compute when it was posted in October of 1864 and the notice of bankruptcy showed up in January of 1865? (I might add that everything JJD Oland touched seemed to create more questions for every answer we've found.) Judy John Orchard <john.orchard4@btinternet.com> wrote: Sandra is right in her observations but you both seem to have missed an important point. Your notice tells of the discharge from bankruptcy which is when the administrator and the court agree that the bankrupt has met all of the court imposed obligations and is finally set free of the order. This notice is the final official notice giving 'creditors' a last chance to make any further claims before the court order comes into effect. Regards John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judy Bingham" To: Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 9:57 PM Subject: [ENG-HANTS] Bankruptcy > Hi -- > > I'm new to the list and am hoping someone can help me out with this. My > 2ggrandfather, John James Dunn Oland, after being married in Bristol, > traveled around (presumably job related) and by at least 1856 wound up on > a farm named Greyshott, in Headley parish. At one point he started a > business in Haslemere called Oland & Bridge (auctioneers, appraisers, > house and general estate agents) which was doing business in 1859. The > wrinkle comes in 1865 in the months just prior to the family's immigration > to Nova Scotia. Two bankruptcy notices were posted which read as follows: > > January 28, 1865 > The Bankruptcy Act, 1861 > In the county Court of Surrey, holden at Farnham, in the matter of > John James Dunn Oland, of Grayshott, in the Parish of Headley, in the > County of Southhampton, Auctioneer, adjudged Bankrupt on the 3rd day of > October, 1864. > An order of Discharge will be delivered to the Bankrupt after the > expiration of thirty days from this date unless an appeal be duly entered > against the Judgement of the Court, and notice thereof be given to the > Court. James Harris, High Bailiff > > 2nd one: > > January 14, 1865 > Bankrupts. > John James Oland, of Headley, farmer, also passed, and recieved his > order and discharge. > > So my questions are: > > 1. Do these mean that just the business was bankrupt or does it mean that > the farm went under as well? (I don't know if he was leasing the farm or > owned it.) > > 2. Is there any way of tracking down whether John owned the land? (The > LDS Church doesn't appear to have anything on microfilm.) > > 3. Is there any way of finding out more about this Oland & Bridge? > > I'd be most grateful for any insight into this -- > Judy Bingham > Fullerton, California > > > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx

    10/10/2005 09:09:24
    1. 1841 Census - WELLOCK
    2. Roger Phillips
    3. Trying to locate WILLIAM H. WELLOCK in 1841 - he would be about 14 years of age. His parents were James and Elizabeth Wellock. Would they be in the Hampshire Census - possibly Old Basing, in 1841? Will appreciate any information on them. Thank you. Regards, Jane in Cal.

    10/10/2005 09:04:28
    1. Re: [ENG-HANTS] Bankruptcy
    2. Judy Bingham
    3. Hi Sandra -- Thank so much! Your explanation not only makes sense, it does tie in with what we understand about the family -- that they arrived in Nova Scotia, in essence, without money. Appreciate it! Judy Sandra J Smith <sandra.s@ntlworld.com> wrote: Judy, I am not an expert, but if a company goes "bankrupt" it goes into liquidation and if it is a limited company with directors, they are only liable to the value of their shares in the company. However in your case it is the individual who is bankrupt, so he would have lost everything he owned including a sole-trading business or his share in a non-limited partnership. Sandra Judy Bingham wrote: >Hi -- > >I'm new to the list and am hoping someone can help me out with this. My 2ggrandfather, John James Dunn Oland, after being married in Bristol, traveled around (presumably job related) and by at least 1856 wound up on a farm named Greyshott, in Headley parish. At one point he started a business in Haslemere called Oland & Bridge (auctioneers, appraisers, house and general estate agents) which was doing business in 1859. The wrinkle comes in 1865 in the months just prior to the family's immigration to Nova Scotia. Two bankruptcy notices were posted which read as follows: > >January 28, 1865 >The Bankruptcy Act, 1861 > In the county Court of Surrey, holden at Farnham, in the matter of John James Dunn Oland, of Grayshott, in the Parish of Headley, in the County of Southhampton, Auctioneer, adjudged Bankrupt on the 3rd day of October, 1864. > An order of Discharge will be delivered to the Bankrupt after the expiration of thirty days from this date unless an appeal be duly entered against the Judgement of the Court, and notice thereof be given to the Court. James Harris, High Bailiff > >2nd one: > >January 14, 1865 >Bankrupts. > John James Oland, of Headley, farmer, also passed, and recieved his order and discharge. > >So my questions are: > >1. Do these mean that just the business was bankrupt or does it mean that the farm went under as well? (I don't know if he was leasing the farm or owned it.) > >2. Is there any way of tracking down whether John owned the land? (The LDS Church doesn't appear to have anything on microfilm.) > >3. Is there any way of finding out more about this Oland & Bridge? > >I'd be most grateful for any insight into this -- >Judy Bingham >Fullerton, California > > > > >============================== >Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > > ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx

    10/10/2005 08:31:32
    1. Lucretia Jacobs Portsmouth
    2. liz
    3. Hi Still looking for any information about Lucretia Jacobs. I am unable to find her on 1901census online or on Free BMD. All I know about her is that she married Private George Page of the Barracks Portsmouth in October 1911. (he was kia April 1918) On the marriage certificate she was 22 and a spinster living at 15 Nelson Avenue North End Portsmouth. Fathers name given as George Jacobs a market gardener. In 1912 they were at Lincoln and had Ronald and then Roy (my late father-in-law) in 1913. Lucretia died in 1955 at Lincoln. If anyone has come across her in their research or have any ideas I'd love to hear from them Thanks for reading Liz at Lincoln

    10/10/2005 08:21:23
    1. Bankruptcy
    2. Judy Bingham
    3. Hi -- I'm new to the list and am hoping someone can help me out with this. My 2ggrandfather, John James Dunn Oland, after being married in Bristol, traveled around (presumably job related) and by at least 1856 wound up on a farm named Greyshott, in Headley parish. At one point he started a business in Haslemere called Oland & Bridge (auctioneers, appraisers, house and general estate agents) which was doing business in 1859. The wrinkle comes in 1865 in the months just prior to the family's immigration to Nova Scotia. Two bankruptcy notices were posted which read as follows: January 28, 1865 The Bankruptcy Act, 1861 In the county Court of Surrey, holden at Farnham, in the matter of John James Dunn Oland, of Grayshott, in the Parish of Headley, in the County of Southhampton, Auctioneer, adjudged Bankrupt on the 3rd day of October, 1864. An order of Discharge will be delivered to the Bankrupt after the expiration of thirty days from this date unless an appeal be duly entered against the Judgement of the Court, and notice thereof be given to the Court. James Harris, High Bailiff 2nd one: January 14, 1865 Bankrupts. John James Oland, of Headley, farmer, also passed, and recieved his order and discharge. So my questions are: 1. Do these mean that just the business was bankrupt or does it mean that the farm went under as well? (I don't know if he was leasing the farm or owned it.) 2. Is there any way of tracking down whether John owned the land? (The LDS Church doesn't appear to have anything on microfilm.) 3. Is there any way of finding out more about this Oland & Bridge? I'd be most grateful for any insight into this -- Judy Bingham Fullerton, California

    10/10/2005 07:57:04
    1. Missing Daughter
    2. Hi all, looking for the missing daughter Mary BEWSEY b abt 1842 to Joseph BEWSEY and Mercy Clayton. She was last listed living with Mercy and her new husband Thomas HOLLIS in the 1861 census listed as Mary BEWSEY age 9 and nothing after that. Also looking for the death of Thomas HOLLIS between 1861 and 1871 his dob is was abt 1816. Regards Bob Newell

    10/10/2005 07:28:03