Here it is Ed: http://aalt.law.uh.edu/ Sandra Brit wrote: >Hi, could someone post the url for this site again, please? Thanks > Carole > >Eddie Thomas <[email protected]> wrote: > It also works perfectly well on Internet Explorer 7 > >Ed > >-----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] >[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sandra J Smith >Sent: 06 March 2007 09:35 >To: jo mason; [email protected] >Subject: Re: [ENG-HANTS] New Mediaeval website > >And on Netscape too! >Sandra > >jo mason wrote: > > > >>It works on Firefox >>Jo in Leics >> >>[email protected] >>[email protected] >> >> >> > > >............................................. >Want to contact the local community? >Please visit Hampshire Parish Jottings >http://hants.parishjottings.org.uk >............................................. > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >--------------------------------- >Never Miss an Email >Stay connected with Yahoo! Mail on your mobile. Get started! > >............................................. >Want to contact the local community? >Please visit Hampshire Parish Jottings >http://hants.parishjottings.org.uk >............................................. > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >

Chris & Caroline wrote: > that was a joke that fell flat on its face!! Not entirely <G> I realised what you meant. I just didn't have time this a.m. to tell Jo that it was a leg pull!! lol -- Charani (UK)

that was a joke that fell flat on its face!! Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eddie Thomas" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 12:56 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-HANTS] New Mediaeval website It also works perfectly well on Internet Explorer 7 Ed -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sandra J Smith Sent: 06 March 2007 09:35 To: jo mason; [email protected] Subject: Re: [ENG-HANTS] New Mediaeval website And on Netscape too! Sandra jo mason wrote: >It works on Firefox >Jo in Leics

It also works perfectly well on Internet Explorer 7 Ed -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sandra J Smith Sent: 06 March 2007 09:35 To: jo mason; [email protected] Subject: Re: [ENG-HANTS] New Mediaeval website And on Netscape too! Sandra jo mason wrote: >It works on Firefox >Jo in Leics > >[email protected] >[email protected] >

And on Netscape too! Sandra jo mason wrote: >It works on Firefox >Jo in Leics > >[email protected] >[email protected] > >............................................. >Want to contact the local community? >Please visit Hampshire Parish Jottings >http://hants.parishjottings.org.uk >............................................. > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >

It works on Firefox Jo in Leics [email protected] [email protected]

I think it is possible that some employers would not employ married servants. Could she have concealed her married status from her employers who would then have completed the census incorrectly? Have you found a death record for John Marshall? Regards, Lynda ----- Original Message ----- > My ancestor Charlotte Bulpitt married a John Marshall September 25,1886 in > the Parish Church of North Baddesley in the County of Southampton after > banns. John Marshall was a widower. > > It is strange by 1891 census Charlotte is working as a servant at Melcombe > Regis, Weymouth, Dorset and she is listed as single. She is 39. I wonder > what happened to her husband or why her marriage was for a short period. By > the 1901 census she is still at Weymouth, Dorset. > > Joan > B.C. Canada

Hi, could someone post the url for this site again, please? Thanks Carole Eddie Thomas <[email protected]> wrote: It also works perfectly well on Internet Explorer 7 Ed -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sandra J Smith Sent: 06 March 2007 09:35 To: jo mason; [email protected] Subject: Re: [ENG-HANTS] New Mediaeval website And on Netscape too! Sandra jo mason wrote: >It works on Firefox >Jo in Leics > >[email protected] >[email protected] > ............................................. Want to contact the local community? Please visit Hampshire Parish Jottings http://hants.parishjottings.org.uk ............................................. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Never Miss an Email Stay connected with Yahoo! Mail on your mobile. Get started!

And you will have to use older versions of IE to read it!! LOL Windows AD or Windows BC with plug ins!! Thanks for that Sandra may now be able to get back more than 1545 on my fathers side Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandra J Smith" <[email protected]> To: "ENG-HAMPSHIRE-L" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 8:03 PM Subject: [ENG-HANTS] New Mediaeval website Hi List, For those of you who are looking at really early records, a new web-site is now available with images of original documents. The preamble for the web site reads: Professor Robert Palmer of the University of Houston Law Center has initiated a huge project, The Anglo-American Legal Tradition, to digitise medieval and early-modern English legal records, and to make the images freely available through the Internet. The records covered are from the period 1272-1650, and include plea rolls (CP 40, KB 27 and E 13), Exchequer memoranda rolls (E 159 and E 368) and other series (C 33, JUST 1 [to 1350], E 124, E 126, REQ 1, DL 5 and CHES 14). The project's website is still in preparation, but images are already available for the reigns of Edward I, Edward III and Henry VIII-Charles I, and it is planned that more material will be added at the rate of 400,000 images per year. Only images of the documents are provided - no transcripts - but the site also includes some example transcriptions for illustration If you already have a reference, say from VCH, you can now view the original! The website address is http://aalt.law.uh.edu/ Enjoy! Sandra ............................................. Want to contact the local community? Please visit Hampshire Parish Jottings http://hants.parishjottings.org.uk ............................................. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 000721-2, 03/05/2007 Tested on: 3/5/2007 11:05:25 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2007 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com

Is it possible that Sarah is Amy's mother or sister? If so she may have later adopted Lydia as her own daughter. I have seen examples of illegitimate grandchildren being shown as daughters of the head of household on censuses. Regards, Lynda Hi Lynda Thanks for responding.. Sarah Quinn (nee Lane) is Amy's mother. Her father is John Madagascar Quinn. One of my conclusions was that John and Sarah had adopted Lydia as their own. It's good to know that someone else thinks this as well! Since Amy was still unmarried in 1881, I would say that all the evidence points to Amy being the mother, her mother Sarah being the informant was, I guess, trying to cover up the fact that Amy was unmarried. By that time, the father of an illegitimate child had to be present at the registration to be included on the certificate, hence the crossing out. The eight M and nine M would relate to the alterations the Registrar made, any alteration had to be noted. Jennifer Hi Jennifer Thanks for replying. I wondered about Nathaniel - it's not a name I've come across before and I'm completely stumped. Thanks for explaining about the recording of a child's father's name. I can't see an obvious Nathaniel Quinn on Ancestry and I will probably have to just accept what's on the certificate. Hi Jo, It was illegal for the father of an illegitimate child to be named on a birth certificate unless he was present at the registration. In this instance I suspect that Sarah was asked the name of the father without realising this requirement and before the registrar had already written the name in the appropriate column. He was legally obliged to delete the name as soon as he realised the error, making a note in the margin that he had altered it. (This obviously stopped any possible later forgeries) This mistake, crossing out and correction would always be carried over on to any copies made in the future. It was fairly common for an illegitimate child of the daughter of a household to be raised by the grandparents, and I suspect that Sarah Quinn was in fact Amy's mother, I have seen instances where a grandchild in these circumstances is listed as a son/daughter on a census when in fact they are a grandson/granddaughter. I would say that you have the correct birth certificate and that Amy's father was a Nathaniel, although his surname is unknown. Hope this helps Sandra Hi Sandra You've come up with the same answer as Jennifer! This Nathaniel is going to bug me but I think I will just have to accept that I will never know who he was. Again, thanks to you all for taking the time to reply. Jo -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.7/711 - Release Date: 05/03/2007 09:41 BullGuard Anti-virus has scanned this e-mail and found it clean. Try BullGuard for free: www.bullguard.com

Hi List, For those of you who are looking at really early records, a new web-site is now available with images of original documents. The preamble for the web site reads: Professor Robert Palmer of the University of Houston Law Center has initiated a huge project, The Anglo-American Legal Tradition, to digitise medieval and early-modern English legal records, and to make the images freely available through the Internet. The records covered are from the period 1272-1650, and include plea rolls (CP 40, KB 27 and E 13), Exchequer memoranda rolls (E 159 and E 368) and other series (C 33, JUST 1 [to 1350], E 124, E 126, REQ 1, DL 5 and CHES 14). The project's website is still in preparation, but images are already available for the reigns of Edward I, Edward III and Henry VIII-Charles I, and it is planned that more material will be added at the rate of 400,000 images per year. Only images of the documents are provided - no transcripts - but the site also includes some example transcriptions for illustration If you already have a reference, say from VCH, you can now view the original! The website address is http://aalt.law.uh.edu/ Enjoy! Sandra

Thanks Joy, Will bear that in mind! Liz In einer eMail vom 05.03.2007 19:11:23 Westeuropäische Normalzeit schreibt [email protected]: Hi Liz `Could be Navy for lymouth and Stonehouse for Royal Marines! Take yer pik? Joy

Hi Liz `Could be Navy for lymouth and Stonehouse for Royal Marines! Take yer pik? Joy Australia ex-Hants ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 1:09 AM Subject: [ENG-HANTS] SPURRELL family > Hello everyone, > > Has anyone come across the name SPURRELL in their research? > > I am still coming in sideways trying to sort out my DIMMERs. Elizabeth > SPURRELL, born Devon ca 1810 married David DORRELL Sept 1834 at St > Thoms', > Portsea. Her sister Caroline born ca 1815 in Devon, married Wm DIMMER 21 > Jul 1831 > at St Mary's Portsea. > > I believe thier father was Joseph SPURRELL who was born in Hampshire. He > was with Elizabeth and David in 1841, entered as independent. As his > daughters > were born in Devon (Plymouth or Stonehouse) he was probably a navy man. > > Best wishes, > > Liz in Munich > > > > > ............................................. > Want to contact the local community? > Please visit Hampshire Parish Jottings > http://hants.parishjottings.org.uk > ............................................. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.7/710 - Release Date: 4/03/2007 > 1:58 PM > >

Hello all Today we have uploaded as follows: NETHER WALLOP BAPTISMS 1753-1783 - transcribed by HILDA GIRL from New Zealand SPARSHOLT BAPTISMS - 1609 -1930 - FRED W MONTAGUE, UK SPARSHOLT BURIALS - 1614 -1919 - FRED W MONTAGUE, UK Thank you to all of our transcribers and fiche donors - this project would not be possible without you. We have several more to upload in the next few days - keep checking the site. You can check on these and all of the other transcriptions FREE online at www.knightroots.co.uk and click on Online Transcriptions. We are always looking for donations of transcriptions or microfiche, village histories and photographs (must be your own copyright)or of course, volunteer transcribers. Contact [email protected] for details. Take care Linda & Tony Hampshire OPC Co-ordinators

Well I wouldn't have Rosemary so you are not the only dim one! I thought it was a Railway Company from the Orkneys or somewhere!! Hee hee chris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rose&David" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 6:46 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-HANTS] OGWR Dear All, Very many thanks to everyone who kindly answered my query. I knew you were all very clever....I just didn't realise I was so dim! Ogwr, Wales! Who'd have thought it?! Many thanks Rosemary

Hi again Liz, happy hunting, though there don't seem to be many Spurrells in Hampshire. SPURRELL, William D. and Ada had son Fred (who was killed in WW 1) 1896 at Crondall, Hants. (west of Farnham). Regards, David

Dear All, Very many thanks to everyone who kindly answered my query. I knew you were all very clever....I just didn't realise I was so dim! Ogwr, Wales! Who'd have thought it?! Many thanks Rosemary

Here is a bit of Genealogical humour! I have not seen Great Cockup for ages and thought it had been taking down from the web Its hilarious! But there is a Great Cockup and a Little Cockup in the Lake district! chris http://www.staithes.demon.co.uk/atlast.html Edith TintWhistles letters page http://www.staithes.demon.co.uk/letters.html

Hi Liz, SPUREL, Thomas, 'Norwich Deeds' II 1314 SPURWILL, James, 'Protestation Returns for Devon' 1642 SPURRELL, James, 'Hearth Tax Returns for York' 1672 Name believed to originate in Spirewell, Wembury, Dorset; or Spurells Cross, Ugborough, Devon (latter comes from Spurwell). Regards, David

Hi Jo, It was illegal for the father of an illegitimate child to be named on a birth certificate unless he was present at the registration. In this instance I suspect that Sarah was asked the name of the father without realising this requirement and before the registrar had already written the name in the appropriate column. He was legally obliged to delete the name as soon as he realised the error, making a note in the margin that he had altered it. (This obviously stopped any possible later forgeries) This mistake, crossing out and correction would always be carried over on to any copies made in the future. It was fairly common for an illegitimate child of the daughter of a household to be raised by the grandparents, and I suspect that Sarah Quinn was in fact Amy's mother, I have seen instances where a grandchild in these circumstances is listed as a son/daughter on a census when in fact they are a grandson/granddaughter. I would say that you have the correct birth certificate and that Amy's father was a Nathaniel, although his surname is unknown. Hope this helps Sandra Jo wrote: >I realise that this probably isn’t the right list as this is a question >about interpreting a birth certificate, but it’s related to a Hampshire >birth and I’m hoping that someone might be able to either help me or point >me in the right direction. > >According to the 1881 and 1891 censuses, Lydia is the daughter of John >Madagascar and Sarah Quinn. However, the birth certificate tells me >otherwise. I can’t attach it as an image so I’ve transcribed the columns >below. > >1879 birth in the sub-district of Southampton in the County of the same Town >1 Where and when born – 4th January 1879, 52 Northam Street >2 Name – Lydia >3 Sex – Girl >4 Name and surname of father – [Nathaniel Quinn - crossed out] (8) >5 Name, surname and maiden name of mother – Amy Quinn [formerly – crossed >out] (9) a Tailoress >6 occupation of father – blank >7 Signature, description and residence of informant – Sarah Quinn present at >the birth 52 Northam Street, Southampton > >The words ‘Eight M’ and ‘Nine M’ are written to the left of the first >column. I've never seen this before and haven't got a clue what it means. >Presumably they relate to the bracketed 8 and 9 in columns 4 and 5. > >My first thought was that a mistake had been made on the certificate for >another birth - can they void a line in the register or does every line >number have to be accounted for and used? > >Alternatively, could Amy have changed her mind about putting a father's name >on the certificate for any reason? I'm not aware as yet of any male Quinn >relatives with the name Nathaniel. Could Amy have given a boyfriend's name >as if they were married? Her eventual husband's name is Albert James >Haysom. > >Sorry - loads of queries and possibilities! > >Grateful for anyone's help and advice. > > >Jo > > >Take a look at my family history: www.users.waitrose.com/~jonewman > > > >