Should have given you the location - Southampton Brian Perth WA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shelley Eccleston" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2007 8:09 AM Subject: [ENG-HANTS] Lookup for John FIELD in 1830 Pigots Directory > Hello, > I was wondering whether anyone has access to the 1830 Hampshire Pigot's > Directory? I am interested in learning more about John FIELD who is listed > in the surname index as "FIELD, John 468". If someone could look up the > entry for me I would really appreciate it. > Thank you! > Shelley > > > ............................................. > Want to contact the local community? > Please visit Hampshire Parish Jottings > http://hants.parishjottings.org.uk > ............................................. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

John Field Comes under Bakers & Flour Dealers 14 St Georges Terrace HTH Brian Perth WA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shelley Eccleston" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2007 8:09 AM Subject: [ENG-HANTS] Lookup for John FIELD in 1830 Pigots Directory > Hello, > I was wondering whether anyone has access to the 1830 Hampshire Pigot's > Directory? I am interested in learning more about John FIELD who is listed > in the surname index as "FIELD, John 468". If someone could look up the > entry for me I would really appreciate it. > Thank you! > Shelley > > > ............................................. > Want to contact the local community? > Please visit Hampshire Parish Jottings > http://hants.parishjottings.org.uk > ............................................. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello, I don't have access to 1830 Pigot's but I checked 1836 Fletchers Directory of Southampton on line and found: John Field, Baker, Canal Walk. You might like to look at other directories on the site: www.portcities.org.uk Select Southampton, and then follow the link to directories. The same site is very useful for photos and illustrations of old Southampton. Regards, Lynda ----- Original Message ----- > Hello, > I was wondering whether anyone has access to the 1830 Hampshire Pigot's > Directory? I am interested in learning more about John FIELD who is listed > in the surname index as "FIELD, John 468". If someone could look up the > entry for me I would really appreciate it. > Thank you! > Shelley

Hello Charles Major Cluett born 1869 married Edith Troke THEY lived in Christchurch and married 1904. I would like to find family please. Sandra in NZ

Hi Am after the family of Martha Major Cluett born c 1863 married to Tom Heal born and lived in Pokestown HEAL kids were Dorothy Elva Heal b 1895 Christchurch Kathleen Ciecily Heal 1896 Gladys Mary Heal 1898 Henry Gordon HEAL 1900 Christchurch I would like to find the family please. Sandra in NZ

Am seeking the family of Annie Mabel COLE bc 1886 Winton Christchurch. Her morhter was Ellen Cluett bc 1859 and her dad was Charles COLE. Who seem to live in or near Winton. Sandra in NZ

Hello Susannah nee Foot Cluett lived in Hampshire in 1901 she lived with her children and died 1902 Winton Christchurch Hamps. Husband was William Major Cluett. Am Interested in CLUETT in Hampshire Daughter Eliza Ann Cluett 1856-1906 married Harry Scott born 1861 Holdenhurst. Scott Kids lived round Christchurch. Henry Ford/Foot?? Major Cluett born 1880 married unknown Frances Matilda Scott 1883 married Wm F Batholomew Rose Eliz Scott 1885 m Vincent Kitcher Harry Scott 1886 married Annie Taylor Walter Scott 1887 Thomas Henry Scott 1888 Sarah Emma Scott 1889 Laura J Scott 1891 Agnes Ursula 1893 Boscombe Chch married Arthur Blackmoore Is anyone interested in Cluett and Scott Sandra in NZ

Hello, I was wondering whether anyone has access to the 1830 Hampshire Pigot's Directory? I am interested in learning more about John FIELD who is listed in the surname index as "FIELD, John 468". If someone could look up the entry for me I would really appreciate it. Thank you! Shelley

Hi Jenny, Unless I'm out to lunch (which does happen) Dockyard apprentices, like other apprentices, were not paid. In fact their parent or guardian paid a premium to the apprentice master for the privilege of having them taught a trade. Records of apprentices are very hit and miss, but I'm sure someone else will have more information on that than I do. Best wishes, Peter.

Hi Everyone, I am wondering if someone could help me. Did an apprentice who worked in the Portsmouth dockyard back in 1790/1800 such as a Ropemaker (Spinner) get paid by the dockyard directly. Would they then have been shown in the Pay book for the dockyard?? With the deductions to the Master shown?? Any help greatly appreciated. Regards Jenny _________________________________________________________________ Advertisement: Chat with 1000s of Sexy Singles right now http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Flavalife9%2Eninemsn%2Ecom%2Eau%2Fclickthru%2Fclickthru%2Eact%3Fid%3Dninemsn%26context%3Dan99%26locale%3Den%5FAU%26a%3D25447&_t=754951090&_r=chat&_m=EXT

Hello all Today we have uploaded as follows: Marriages at St Stephen's Church, Sparsholt, Hampshire from 1630 to 1930 - transcribed by Fred W Montague Goodworth Clatford burials 1813-1906 - transcribed by Diz Swift Rockbourne Burials 1813-1925 - transcribed by Bev Parker Once again, can we express our appreciation to all of our volunteer transcribers and fiche donors on behalf of all Hampshire genealogists. You can check on these and all of the other transcriptions FREE online at www.knightroots.co.uk and click on Online Transcriptions. We are always looking for donations of transcriptions or microfiche, village histories and photographs (must be your own copyright) or of course, volunteer transcribers. Contact [email protected] for details. Take care Linda & Tony Hampshire OPC Co-ordinators

Hello all Today we have uploaded as follows: Marriages at St Stephen's Church, Sparsholt, Hampshire from 1630 to 1930 - transcribed by Fred W Montague Goodworth Clatford burials 1813-1906 - transcribed by Diz Swift Rockbourne Burials 1813-1925 - transcribed by Bev Parker Once again, can we express our appreciation to all of our volunteer transcribers and fiche donors on behalf of all Hampshire genealogists. You can check on these and all of the other transcriptions FREE online at www.knightroots.co.uk and click on Online Transcriptions. We are always looking for donations of transcriptions or microfiche, village histories and photographs (must be your own copyright) or of course, volunteer transcribers. Contact [email protected] for details. Take care Linda & Tony Hampshire OPC Co-ordinators

>From the churchyard at Marnhull near Sturminster Newton in Dorset we found this inscription "Here under this stone Lie Ruth and John Who smoked all his life And so did his wife. And now there's no doubt But their pipes are both out Be it said without joke That life is but smoke; Though we live to fourscore 'Tis a whiff and no more." If anybody finds a good and humorous one why not share it But must be Hampshire if possible chris

I have a few Chivers in my line also. I have a Richard born 1796 in Berkshire to a Richard and Martha Chivers, and before him another Richard born 1733 Ashbury, Berkshire. Cheers, Liv, New Zealand ----- Original Message ----- From: Lesley Chivers To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 4:45 PM Subject: [ENG-HANTS] Chivers - new subscriber Hello, I'm new to the list and thought I would list my interests. CHIVERS - Richard born 1789 at unknown, married a Mary NORRIS ( born in 1749 Wonston) in 1771 in Hustborne Tarrant. Richard is my brickwall and I'm hoping someone can help me break it down. I have a feeling he was born around Wonston as I have seen some baptisms parish records for a Richard and Mary Chivers children born 1736 and 1733 and a Tufton burial of Elizabeth Chivers daughter of Richard and Mary in 1774. So if anyone has come across my Richard or could look him up in the Parish Records I would really appreciate it. Thanks Lesley ............................................. Want to contact the local community? Please visit Hampshire Parish Jottings http://hants.parishjottings.org.uk ............................................. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.11/721 - Release Date: 13/03/07 16:51

This site has names of those swing rioters taken to Tasmania. http://www.rootsweb.com/~austas/proteus.htm Chris

Hello, I'm new to the list and thought I would list my interests. CHIVERS - Richard born 1789 at unknown, married a Mary NORRIS ( born in 1749 Wonston) in 1771 in Hustborne Tarrant. Richard is my brickwall and I'm hoping someone can help me break it down. I have a feeling he was born around Wonston as I have seen some baptisms parish records for a Richard and Mary Chivers children born 1736 and 1733 and a Tufton burial of Elizabeth Chivers daughter of Richard and Mary in 1774. So if anyone has come across my Richard or could look him up in the Parish Records I would really appreciate it. Thanks Lesley

Thank you Tony & Linda for this. Whilst I can find LUCY BARLING PERRY's marriage on the site you mention I cannot find her Baptism. I suspect that this is because her father John Perry was a Baptist Minister mad she was baptised in his church. Would I be best to travel to Winchester RO to look for this or to the Angus Library in Oxford? The period I am looking at is about 1785-90? Jocie > > Brockenhurst baptisms 1730 - 1840 are online at the Hampshire OPC site, > courtesy of John Rose. See www.knightroots.co.uk > Regards > Linda & Tony > > > I am trying to trace the birth place of LUCY BARLING PERRY bn abt. 1789. > Her > parents were John Perry (Baptist Minister) & Mary Barling. They were > married > in Brockenhurst, Hampshire in 1785. I do not know if she had any siblings, > but I know that she married Benjamin Coxhead (also a Baptist Minister) in > Fareham, Hampshire in 1824. > > Any help would be greatly appreciated, > Jocie > > ............................................. > Want to contact the local community? > Please visit Hampshire Parish Jottings > http://hants.parishjottings.org.uk > ............................................. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > --- > avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. > Virus Database (VPS): 000722-4, 03/09/2007 > Tested on: 3/11/2007 10:22:35 PM > avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2007 ALWIL Software. > http://www.avast.com > > > > > ............................................. > Want to contact the local community? > Please visit Hampshire Parish Jottings > http://hants.parishjottings.org.uk > ............................................. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ............................................. > Want to contact the local community? > Please visit Hampshire Parish Jottings > http://hants.parishjottings.org.uk > ............................................. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.8/718 - Release Date: 11/03/2007 > 09:27 > >

Graham, Had to chuckle at the Italian Vicar story. Everything you have said is very valid. Just a couple of additional points: Births had to be reported to the registrar within 6 weeks of the birth, so unlikely that place of birth would be "forgotten" in that time. Ages on marriage certificates, like ages on census returns, are always a bit problematic and not always because an age wants to be hidden. These days we are forever being asked either our age or our date of birth. In days gone by, it was a question rarely asked, so easily forgotten. Ages on death certificates are the same. The person reporting the death might not have known the age of the deceased, so the registrar would use the best estimate. My grandfather, Leonard Mabey of Southampton, lied about his age to go to sea, adding on a couple of years to "qualify". Over the years he maintained this age, getting married, raising a family of 4, etc etc. It all went well until he came to retire and claim his old-age pension - they sent him back to work for 2 more years. (He never had a birth certificate, so they took his baptism as the record). My grandmother was furious - not because of the 2 more years work, but because it turned out that she was older than him! Regards Sandra The Taylors wrote: >Sandra et all > >I can only go part way to agreeing with what Sandra has said about Birth >Certificates V Census. > >I have obtained several birth/ wedding /burial documents and in the main >they appear to be accurate but there are still inconsistencies with even >this documentation. > >It is quite possible, even up to 1880 that no member of the family could >read or write. Many of my paternal and to some extent maternal side were >making with the sign of a X up to this date. So who could be sure about age, >date of birth even birth place? Its never 100% > >Spelling is another matter. On census it depended on the enumerators to >understand the enumerated (is that a correct word?). I have a Daniel, who >became a Samuel, a Walter who became a William who became a Wallace >(thankfully the DOB remained constant!). Surnames often were mis-spelt eg >Watcham /Watsham/Wadley/Wordley, Prior, Pryor, Notley /Nutterley/Cutterley I >have some Watcham relatives, some Watsham relatives, some Wordley and some >Wadley. Watchams all from one source, Wadleys all from one source. In one >case I had an Italian Vicar marrying an Indian man and a woman from East >Anglia. I would have loved to have heard the reading of the banns!! >Sometimes a name has been deliberately given to hide something that a person >wanted to hide (in my case an illegitimately birth in the 1830's). DOB can >vary by up to 5 years. Place of birth can also. > >Rule of thumb- check one source, compare with another and check again. If >all appears to tie in then it probably will. If you have any doubts never, >never assume. I had one person last week said we must be related because our >families both come from Norfolk!!! Come to think of it in this case she >could be right (with apologies to Norfolk!!) > >Graham > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] >[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sandra J Smith >Sent: 12 March 2007 11:17 >To: ENG-HAMPSHIRE-L >Subject: [ENG-HANTS] Birth Certificates v Census > >Hi List, >This email is triggered by a number of emails recently asking for help >with identifying parents of individuals. > >The appearance of indexed census returns on the web in recent years >appears to be encouraging new researchers to take short cuts with their >family history - in short - anything but pay for a certified birth or >marriage certificate. > >I come from the "old school" of researchers, whereby you found and >purchased certificates and then confirmed or enhanced your findings with >census information. Whilst in many cases it can now be done the other >way round, I still believe that the original method of researching is >robust and can save time and grief in the long run. The certificates >are legal documents - the census is not. What is reported on a birth >certificate is usually fact - what is reported to a census enumerator >could be a long stretch of the imagination. I have come across a number >of people recently who have researched an incorrect line of ascent, >because they failed to purchase a certificate of birth to verify correct >parentage. For example, on the census someone could be listed as a >child of the head of household, whereas in reality they were the >illegitimate child of the mother and not necessarily a child of the head >of household. > >There is no need to buy certificates for everyone on your tree - few of >us could afford that. However, it is essential to purchase the >appropriate certificates for your direct line, and then use the census >to confirm and add siblings and other relatives to the tree. >Regards >Sandra > > >............................................. >Want to contact the local community? >Please visit Hampshire Parish Jottings >http://hants.parishjottings.org.uk >............................................. > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > >

March 31st sees the final chapter in the history of Haslar Hospital closing the pages of the history book! A sad and sorry thing as this hospital was built in the 1700s to care for the sick and wounded servicemen, and just when it is needed it is shut! If anyone has any photos of the hospital I wonder if I can have a copy of them to put on my website later on as will do a small page about it. Copyright free of course Chris

Well we try to please Harold! If we can't we know a man who can!! Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harold Murray" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 7:54 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-HANTS] ENG-HAMPSHIRE Digest, Vol 2, Issue 88 Hi all, Many thanks to all who answered the question on the "Onw" meaning. This puts to bed another perplexity. You all are great and very helpful. Regards, Harold Original Message: 3 Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 08:25:55 -0500 From: "Harold Murray" <[email protected]> Subject: [ENG-HANTS] Question on birth registration index To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi all, I wonder if someone can tell me what the (date Onw) means? Example: District: Portsmouth (1900 Onw) This has had me perplexed for a while. Thank you, Genealogy Research area in UK and surnames: Ripley, Codnor, Derbyshire: Brown, Brindley, Buxton, Evans, Gill, Grainger, Matkin, Oliver, Stanley, Wilson Sholing, Hampshire: Gilbert, Hinton, How, Parker, Read Regards, Harold J. (Jack) Murray Kansas City, Missouri ............................................. Want to contact the local community? Please visit Hampshire Parish Jottings http://hants.parishjottings.org.uk ............................................. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 000723-1, 03/12/2007 Tested on: 3/12/2007 9:57:38 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2007 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com