The following updates and new additions have now been added to our website the SOUTHERN LIFE(UK) http://southernlife.org.uk UPDATE/ADDITION: HAMPSHIRE THE CANADIAN CROSS a memorial to those Canadians who stayed here prior to D-Day And is now a memorial to those that died in conflict http://www.southernlife.org.uk/canada.htm We are constantly looking out for photographs (new and old) and articles to add to the villages. Especially to those villages we have not added photographs to. If you have any old or new photographs you would like to share with others please email us BEFORE sending them for security reasons. A credit will be placed with the article/photo acknowledging the sender or photographer. Visit our website to see where your forefathers lived SOUTHERN LIFE(UK) http://Southernlife.org.uk History of the Hampshire, Dorset and IOW Villages,Towns and Churches

Hi Sheila. Do you have a website for them. Thanks Betty On 5/25/07, Sheila Dixon <[email protected]> wrote: > > The National Library of Australia has just announced that by the end of > the > year, researchers will be able to search newspapers for 200 years ending > 1954. Thus giving people an extra place to look for families etc. > Sheila Dixon > > > ............................................. > Want to contact the local community? > Please visit Hampshire Parish Jottings > http://hants.parishjottings.org.uk > ............................................. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

The National Library of Australia has just announced that by the end of the year, researchers will be able to search newspapers for 200 years ending 1954. Thus giving people an extra place to look for families etc. Sheila Dixon

The following updates and new additions have now been added to our website the SOUTHERN LIFE(UK) http://southernlife.org.uk UPDATE/ADDITION: HAMPSHIRE FLEET - photos of the Church on the Heath http://www.southernlife.org.uk/fleet.htm READERS PHOTOS - more photos of fashions c 1912 http://www.southernlife.org.uk/peoples_photos3.htm We are constantly looking out for photographs (new and old) and articles to add to the villages. Especially to those villages we have not added photographs to. If you have any old or new photographs you would like to share with others please email us BEFORE sending them for security reasons. A credit will be placed with the article/photo acknowledging the sender or photographer. Visit our website to see where your forefathers lived SOUTHERN LIFE(UK) http://Southernlife.org.uk History of the Hampshire, Dorset and IOW Villages,Towns and Churches

There is a good example of a cob wall between Winchester and Romsey, that has now been tiled, but in my youth it had a thatched top. Moya, Whereabouts is this? I can't place it. Regards, John Parker Romsey ________________________________________________________________________ Get a FREE AOL Email account with 2GB of storage. Plus, share and store photos and experience exclusively recorded live music Sessions from your favourite artists. Find out more at http://info.aol.co.uk/joinnow/?ncid=548.

Hi It seems clear, then, that the thicker walls referred to earlier are not simply wattle and daub, although they may be composite structures incorporating a panel of wattle and daub combined with some other material to give a double skinned wall. Kathleen> From: [email protected]> To: [email protected]> Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 23:00:25 +0100> Subject: Re: [ENG-HANTS] Village website updates - Longstock> > No confusion here Moya, as daub was usually mud mixed with straw and water > and 'daubed' onto a wattle screen and allowed to dry thus a panel was made.> Whereas cob was usually a stone like mixture ( I did put stone on the > previous mail by mistake) and a couple of cottages one in particular in > Middle Wallop has cob with daub and wattle panels in front. As I said the > daub and wattle was a better insulator than cob and this is> what has been done here. There are one or two of these cottages in the > county but they are very rare as most just use one or the other.> Chris> > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "M. Page" <[email protected]>> To: <[email protected]>> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 7:28 PM> Subject: Re: [ENG-HANTS] Village website updates - Longstock> > > There seems to be some confusion over the differences between wattle and > daub and cob, and how they were used.> > Wattle and daub, was used to fill in between the wooden framework in timber > framed houses.> Made from straw, cow manure and clay, daub, in its raw state is is like a > thick plaster with bits in it. Wattle is rather like> hurdles (usually made from woven willow withies) of wood that were fixed > between the timber uprights of the house framing. Daub> was applied to the wattle, but they usually left the timber structural beams > exposed, which is all we now see of the frame in> timber framed houses.> To a degree it remained flexible and moved with the timber.> > Cob is a similar building material to daub, but used in a different way.> It was made from crushed chalk or clay, straw, sand and water and In > Hampshire,it seems, chalk was used extensively. The mix was> formed into large lumps or 'cobs'. They are pressed together to make thick, > self-supporting walls. You can usually tell a cob> built house as all the corners are rounded, and the walls are much thicker > that those of timber framed houses, simply because they> did not have any supporting structure.> > Cob sets to form a hard and durable wall, but can be easily eroded if not > covered with a impermeable roof, usually of thatch Cob> houses usually have an extened or exagerated roof to protect the house from > driven rain. Cob walls were usually thatched for the> same reason.> > There is a good example of a cob wall between Winchester and Romsey, that > has now been tiled, but in my youth it had a thatched top.> > My favourite Hampshire building material is brick and flint; they complement > each other beautifully. Reading through the pages of> Hampshire County Council's section 'Hampshire Treasures' there are > descriptions of all the different building forms used in the> past. www.hants.gov.uk/hampshiretreasures/> > Moya Page,> researching BANTING/BANTEN/BANTUM - One Name Study GOONS # 4570 > > > .............................................> Want to contact the local community?> Please visit Hampshire Parish Jottings> http://hants.parishjottings.org.uk> .............................................> > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Try Live.com: where your online world comes together - with news, sports, weather, and much more. http://www.live.com/getstarted

No confusion here Moya, as daub was usually mud mixed with straw and water and 'daubed' onto a wattle screen and allowed to dry thus a panel was made. Whereas cob was usually a stone like mixture ( I did put stone on the previous mail by mistake) and a couple of cottages one in particular in Middle Wallop has cob with daub and wattle panels in front. As I said the daub and wattle was a better insulator than cob and this is what has been done here. There are one or two of these cottages in the county but they are very rare as most just use one or the other. Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: "M. Page" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 7:28 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-HANTS] Village website updates - Longstock There seems to be some confusion over the differences between wattle and daub and cob, and how they were used. Wattle and daub, was used to fill in between the wooden framework in timber framed houses. Made from straw, cow manure and clay, daub, in its raw state is is like a thick plaster with bits in it. Wattle is rather like hurdles (usually made from woven willow withies) of wood that were fixed between the timber uprights of the house framing. Daub was applied to the wattle, but they usually left the timber structural beams exposed, which is all we now see of the frame in timber framed houses. To a degree it remained flexible and moved with the timber. Cob is a similar building material to daub, but used in a different way. It was made from crushed chalk or clay, straw, sand and water and In Hampshire,it seems, chalk was used extensively. The mix was formed into large lumps or 'cobs'. They are pressed together to make thick, self-supporting walls. You can usually tell a cob built house as all the corners are rounded, and the walls are much thicker that those of timber framed houses, simply because they did not have any supporting structure. Cob sets to form a hard and durable wall, but can be easily eroded if not covered with a impermeable roof, usually of thatch Cob houses usually have an extened or exagerated roof to protect the house from driven rain. Cob walls were usually thatched for the same reason. There is a good example of a cob wall between Winchester and Romsey, that has now been tiled, but in my youth it had a thatched top. My favourite Hampshire building material is brick and flint; they complement each other beautifully. Reading through the pages of Hampshire County Council's section 'Hampshire Treasures' there are descriptions of all the different building forms used in the past. www.hants.gov.uk/hampshiretreasures/ Moya Page, researching BANTING/BANTEN/BANTUM - One Name Study GOONS # 4570

Hello In response to David's posting, I have Francis Payne (b abt 1740) who married Rebeccah Ireland (b abt 1761) in Fawley in 1781. Their known children were William (1782), Charlotte (1784), Peter (1786) & Stephen (1788), all born in Beaulieu. My line is from Charlotte who married Andrew Grunsell (b Alverstoke in 1783) in Beaulieu in 1805. Do we have a hit, or at least a near miss, amongst that lot? Regards Jim

Hello all Today we have uploaded as follows: Rockbourne Marriages 1778 - 1812 transcribed by Bev Parker Rockbourne Banns 1779-1811 transcribed by Bev Parker Fordingbridge (pr16) Marriages 1860 - 1869 transcribed by Liz Lane Fordingbridge (pr7) Baptisms 1813 - 1818 transcribed by Liz Lane Nether Wallop Baptisms 1783----1797 transcribed by Hilda Girl Monxton Burials 1924 -1930 transcribed by Ron Weeks Thanks to all of you for your continued great efforts on behalf of the Hampshire opc project You can check on these and all of the other transcriptions FREE online at www.knightroots.co.uk and click on Online Transcriptions. We are always looking for donations of transcriptions or microfiche, village histories and photographs (must be your own copyright)or of course, volunteer transcribers. Contact [email protected] for details. To find an entry, either use the CTRL+Find on an individual parish page - or use the site search engine on the left hand navigation pane. Take care Linda & Tony Knight Hampshire OPC Co-ordinators

There seems to be some confusion over the differences between wattle and daub and cob, and how they were used. Wattle and daub, was used to fill in between the wooden framework in timber framed houses. Made from straw, cow manure and clay, daub, in its raw state is is like a thick plaster with bits in it. Wattle is rather like hurdles (usually made from woven willow withies) of wood that were fixed between the timber uprights of the house framing. Daub was applied to the wattle, but they usually left the timber structural beams exposed, which is all we now see of the frame in timber framed houses. To a degree it remained flexible and moved with the timber. Cob is a similar building material to daub, but used in a different way. It was made from crushed chalk or clay, straw, sand and water and In Hampshire,it seems, chalk was used extensively. The mix was formed into large lumps or 'cobs'. They are pressed together to make thick, self-supporting walls. You can usually tell a cob built house as all the corners are rounded, and the walls are much thicker that those of timber framed houses, simply because they did not have any supporting structure. Cob sets to form a hard and durable wall, but can be easily eroded if not covered with a impermeable roof, usually of thatch Cob houses usually have an extened or exagerated roof to protect the house from driven rain. Cob walls were usually thatched for the same reason. There is a good example of a cob wall between Winchester and Romsey, that has now been tiled, but in my youth it had a thatched top. My favourite Hampshire building material is brick and flint; they complement each other beautifully. Reading through the pages of Hampshire County Council's section 'Hampshire Treasures' there are descriptions of all the different building forms used in the past. www.hants.gov.uk/hampshiretreasures/ Moya Page, researching BANTING/BANTEN/BANTUM - One Name Study GOONS # 4570

Hi Chris, Caroline and list, This project is well underway, and I have been helping out with doing some of the transcriptions from the original records - currently 1900 census of USA. (my thought was that the quicker the USA gets done they will move on to UK records!) From what I have read recently there is a slight change in emphasis from the original idea of transcribing all their holdings (millions of microfilm) to maintaining an index of everything on the web. So for example, if they think your ancestor appears on ancestry.com or findmypast.com they will point you in that direction, but you will obviously have to pay that other organisations fees to access it. I suspect that this has arisen because if they provide everything for free all those organisations that currently charge for accesss would go out of business. There has already been a bit of a "spat" over the 1881 census. Presumambly all these other organisations will provide the LDS with an index of all their holdings. I await all the new developments with great interest. Regards Sandra Chris & Caroline wrote: > >Thought I would pass this on, sent to me from Aus >Chris > >In what officials say will be a quantum leap forward in providing family >history information online, the LDS Church has announced a plan designed to >eventually help provide access to as many as 80 billion family records on >the Web, in addition to the tens of billions of records it is currently >The new Records Access program is being announced this week . > >The family records program is the one replacing Family Search, I believe. I >took that class at the genealogy jamboree a year ago in St. George UT. It >isn't original records but the genealogy trees that people enter. There >will be a way to contact the people who submitted trees though and >collaborate on them. Eventually all the original source records will be >digitized but that is a twenty year project and who knows how they will be >distributed - DVD or on-line? > > > >............................................. >Want to contact the local community? >Please visit Hampshire Parish Jottings >http://hants.parishjottings.org.uk >............................................. > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >

Oh I better start building then.... Thanks, Edna - Ottawa ----- Original Message ----- From: "M. Page" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 2:28 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-HANTS] Village website updates - Longstock There seems to be some confusion over the differences between wattle and daub and cob, and how they were used. Wattle and daub, was used to fill in between the wooden framework in timber framed houses. Made from straw, cow manure and clay, daub, in its raw state is is like a thick plaster with bits in it. Wattle is rather like hurdles (usually made from woven willow withies) of wood that were fixed between the timber uprights of the house framing. Daub was applied to the wattle, but they usually left the timber structural beams exposed, which is all we now see of the frame in timber framed houses. To a degree it remained flexible and moved with the timber. Cob is a similar building material to daub, but used in a different way. It was made from crushed chalk or clay, straw, sand and water and In Hampshire,it seems, chalk was used extensively. The mix was formed into large lumps or 'cobs'. They are pressed together to make thick, self-supporting walls. You can usually tell a cob built house as all the corners are rounded, and the walls are much thicker that those of timber framed houses, simply because they did not have any supporting structure. Cob sets to form a hard and durable wall, but can be easily eroded if not covered with a impermeable roof, usually of thatch Cob houses usually have an extened or exagerated roof to protect the house from driven rain. Cob walls were usually thatched for the same reason. There is a good example of a cob wall between Winchester and Romsey, that has now been tiled, but in my youth it had a thatched top. My favourite Hampshire building material is brick and flint; they complement each other beautifully. Reading through the pages of Hampshire County Council's section 'Hampshire Treasures' there are descriptions of all the different building forms used in the past. www.hants.gov.uk/hampshiretreasures/ Moya Page, researching BANTING/BANTEN/BANTUM - One Name Study GOONS # 4570 ............................................. Want to contact the local community? Please visit Hampshire Parish Jottings http://hants.parishjottings.org.uk ............................................. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Some of the older houses had a double wall one of stone and others the same but an outer shell of wattle and daub panels to keep in the warmth, as cob walls can be exceedingly cold. Chris SOUTHERN LIFE(UK) http://Southernlife.org.uk History of the Hampshire, Dorset and IOW Villages,Towns and Churches ----- Original Message ----- From: "k morris" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 10:34 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-HANTS] Village website updates - Longstock Hi I don't understand the reference to wattle and daub being three feet thick. Can you explain that, please? Kathleen> From: [email protected]> To: [email protected]> Date: Sat, 12 May 2007 23:56:22 +0100> Subject: Re: [ENG-HANTS] Village website updates - Longstock> > Most are Cob but some of the newer ones we have seen all seem to be wattle > and daub!!> Chris> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]>> To: <[email protected]>> Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 10:26 PM> Subject: Re: [ENG-HANTS] Village website updates - Longstock> > > > In a message dated 08/05/2007 15:49:23 GMT Standard Time,> [email protected] writes:> > Some are about three feet thick and most of them are constructed out of> basic wattle and daub etc.> > > > If they're that thick aren't they likely to be cob walls?> > Regards,> > > > John> > John Parker> > 07733 310438 (Mobile) 01794 515257 (Home) 01794 511382 (Fax)> E-mail: [email protected]> > > > > > .............................................> Want to contact the local community?> Please visit Hampshire ! Parish Jottings> http://hants.parishjottings.org.uk> .............................................> > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message> > > ---> avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean.> Virus Database (VPS): 000739-3, 05/11/2007> Tested on: 5/12/2007 11:42:33 PM> avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2007 ALWIL Software.> http://www.avast.com> > > > > .............................................> Want to contact the local community?> Please visit Hampshire Parish Jottings> http://hants.parishjottings.org.uk> .............................................> > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself: design your homepage the way you want it with Live.com. http://www.live.com/getstarted ............................................. Want to contact the local community? Please visit Hampshire Parish Jottings http://hants.parishjottings.org.uk ............................................. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thought I would pass this on, sent to me from Aus Chris In what officials say will be a quantum leap forward in providing family history information online, the LDS Church has announced a plan designed to eventually help provide access to as many as 80 billion family records on the Web, in addition to the tens of billions of records it is currently The new Records Access program is being announced this week . The family records program is the one replacing Family Search, I believe. I took that class at the genealogy jamboree a year ago in St. George UT. It isn't original records but the genealogy trees that people enter. There will be a way to contact the people who submitted trees though and collaborate on them. Eventually all the original source records will be digitized but that is a twenty year project and who knows how they will be distributed - DVD or on-line?

Hi I don't understand the reference to wattle and daub being three feet thick. Can you explain that, please? Kathleen> From: [email protected]> To: [email protected]> Date: Sat, 12 May 2007 23:56:22 +0100> Subject: Re: [ENG-HANTS] Village website updates - Longstock> > Most are Cob but some of the newer ones we have seen all seem to be wattle > and daub!!> Chris> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]>> To: <[email protected]>> Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 10:26 PM> Subject: Re: [ENG-HANTS] Village website updates - Longstock> > > > In a message dated 08/05/2007 15:49:23 GMT Standard Time,> [email protected] writes:> > Some are about three feet thick and most of them are constructed out of> basic wattle and daub etc.> > > > If they're that thick aren't they likely to be cob walls?> > Regards,> > > > John> > John Parker> > 07733 310438 (Mobile) 01794 515257 (Home) 01794 511382 (Fax)> E-mail: [email protected]> > > > > > .............................................> Want to contact the local community?> Please visit Hampshire Parish Jottings> http://hants.parishjottings.org.uk> .............................................> > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message> > > ---> avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean.> Virus Database (VPS): 000739-3, 05/11/2007> Tested on: 5/12/2007 11:42:33 PM> avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2007 ALWIL Software.> http://www.avast.com> > > > > .............................................> Want to contact the local community?> Please visit Hampshire Parish Jottings> http://hants.parishjottings.org.uk> .............................................> > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself: design your homepage the way you want it with Live.com. http://www.live.com/getstarted

Wattle and daub ~ http://www.stockton.edu/~ken/wharram/peasant.htm Edna - Ottawa

My daughter in laws sister was married to a PINK and they wre from the Totton/Eling area Chris SOUTHERN LIFE(UK) http://Southernlife.org.uk History of the Hampshire, Dorset and IOW Villages,Towns and Churches ----- Original Message ----- From: "june fitzgerald" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 5:48 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-HANTS] PINKS/ANDREWS families Farringdon/Alton Hi Judy, are your Kent line from Hampshire? I too have Pink ancestors. June ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judy d'Albert" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 2:13 AM Subject: [ENG-HANTS] PINKS/ANDREWS families Farringdon/Alton > Anybody have any info on the PINKS family of Pinks Jams fame? My great > grandmother was Sarah Elizabeth ANDREWS from Farringdon and her mother > was Sarah Pink. I know nothing about her father either - Mr. Andrews- > so if anyone can shed a beam of light on this branch of the tree, it > would enhance the (Kent )Mathew family history, I am writing.... > especially as I already have the New Forest Hendeys whose granddaughter > married into the Mathew family . Thanks. > Judy > > > ............................................. > Want to contact the local community? > Please visit Hampshire Parish Jottings > http://hants.parishjottings.org.uk > ............................................. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.5/812 - Release Date: 19/05/2007 > 13:52 > > ............................................. Want to contact the local community? Please visit Hampshire Parish Jottings http://hants.parishjottings.org.uk ............................................. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thought I would pass this on. Chris In what officials say will be a quantum leap forward in providing family history information online, the LDS Church has announced a plan designed to eventually help provide access to as many as 80 billion family records on the Web, in addition to the tens of billions of records it is currently indexing out of its own Granite Vault microfilm archives. The new Records Access program is being announced this week .

Hi Judy, are your Kent line from Hampshire? I too have Pink ancestors. June ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judy d'Albert" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 2:13 AM Subject: [ENG-HANTS] PINKS/ANDREWS families Farringdon/Alton > Anybody have any info on the PINKS family of Pinks Jams fame? My great > grandmother was Sarah Elizabeth ANDREWS from Farringdon and her mother > was Sarah Pink. I know nothing about her father either - Mr. Andrews- > so if anyone can shed a beam of light on this branch of the tree, it > would enhance the (Kent )Mathew family history, I am writing.... > especially as I already have the New Forest Hendeys whose granddaughter > married into the Mathew family . Thanks. > Judy > > > ............................................. > Want to contact the local community? > Please visit Hampshire Parish Jottings > http://hants.parishjottings.org.uk > ............................................. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.5/812 - Release Date: 19/05/2007 > 13:52 > >

Baptism at Binsted - 1 Sep 1895 Beatrice - William George & Catharine Jessie King - Police Constable No other information given in the entry. Alan McGowan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Opiekan" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 1:18 PM Subject: [ENG-HANTS] Look-up Parish Record Binsted Is it possible to request a look-up in the Parish Registers of Binsted for Beatrice Alice King born c 1896 to William George & Catherine Jessie King. William's occupation - Police Constable. Many thanks, Rose