Hi Pamela: I may have posted about KEMP recently, but none of your other names fit my interests, and my KEMP line is earlier than the dates you mention. There were several KEMP families in Portsea in the early 19th century. For a long time, I had difficulty determining the particular Sarah KEMP who had married Edmund SQUIRE, out of those christened at St. Mary's Portsea. These were, from IGI: Sarah KEMP b. 29 Dec 1804 chr. 16 Jun 1805, parents George KEMP and Sarah (20) Sarah KEMP b. 27 May 1803 chr. 26 Jul 1805, parents James KEMP and Elizabeth (20) Sarah KEMP chr. 31 Oct 1806, parents Robert KEMP and Hannah (19) Sarah KEMP c. 30 Sep 1808, parents William KEMP and Jane (17) The marriage took place at St. Mary's Portsea on 8 Jan 1826, at which time the numbers in parentheses represent the approximate ages based on christening dates (but see below). In February last year I received a message from Steve Baker on this list. He mentioned the following family: James KEMP m. Elizabeth FULLJAMES at St. Mary's, Portsea, on 4 Nov 1792 Children: Mary Harriet KEMP chr. 28 Jul 1793 St. Mary's, Portsea James KEMP (2) and Jno. Richd. KEMP (1) chr. 9 Sep 1796 St. Mary's Portsea Sarah KEMP b. 29 Apr 1799 chr. 7 Jul 1799 St. Mary's Portsea Richard George KEMP, chr. 12 Jun 1801 St. Mary's, Portsea (m. Mary DENTON 29 Oct 1825 St. Mary's Portsea) Sarah KEMP b. 27 May 1803 chr. 26 Jul 1805 St. Mary's Portsea Frederick KEMP chr. 5 Apr 1805 St. Mary's Portsea William Henry KEMP chr. 2 May 1806 St. Mary's Portsea As you will see from the below information this does appear to be the correct KEMP family for Sarah, though her birth date is different by four days. I have marriage info for the parents, for Richard George KEMP, Edmund SQUIRE and Sarah KEMP, and for a John KEMP and Mary Ann HEATHER 12 Nov 1820 at St. Thomas, also John KEMP and Leanes BOYCE 2 Dec 1823 at St. Thomas, thanks to Linda and Tony's generous lookups. Although I do not have a death or burial record for Sarah b, 1799, it would be very likely that she died before May 1803 when a second Sarah KEMP was born in the same family. The only child of Edmund SQUIRE and Sarah KEMP was Julia SQUIRE, who married Henry John WILLCOCKS and they were my great-grandparents, married at All Saints, Portsmouth on 23 Oct 1852. The question of which Sarah KEMP was my great-great-grandmother is now definitively settled, as my greatuncle Henry William Squire (HWSW below) personal genealogical notes from 1929 or earlier that have recently been sent to me as a result of a contact through Essex lists, since he lived in Harwich and Ramsey. He devoted a whole page to his maternal grandparents and stated "Sarah Squire - Born May 23rd 1803 - Died April 18th 1863" underneath Edmund's dates "Born March 8th 1802, Died Feb 12th 1845." I would like to find the family in 1841, if anyone can provide the information. In 1851, Sarah is at: HO107/1658/F9 33, Lion Place, Sarah Squire Head(widow) 47 Government annuitant b. Portsmouth Julia Dau 24 Dressmaker In 1861, I again have no apparent census information, but Sarah would be 57, widowes, and probably with her relatives, but Julia by that time was married to Henry John WILLCOCKS, who died 15 Dec 1864 (according to HWSW) HWSW also wrote the following about Edmund and Sarah: "My Maternal Grandparents were Edmund Squire and Sarah his wife nee Kemp they were both born at Portsmouth, the Kemps were well known Hatters and Manufactors of Straw Hats for the Navy, there was a large family of Kemps while Edmund Squire was a Warrant Officer in the Navy & died by sunstroke at “Mauritius” where he was buried." Hence the Government Annuitant status for Sarah in widowhood! I would like to hear from anyone with details of (a) 1841 census for Edmund (39) and Sarah Squire (38) likely both shown as 35, in county with daughter Julia (14). (b) 1861 census for Sarah Squire (57) who may be with son in law Henry John WILLCOCKS (33) and her daughter (34) (c) Any information about other descendants or ancestry of the KEMP/FULLJAMES family members listed above. Also, if Steve Baker is still on the list, I would like to contact him again about these connections. Regards Martin Willcocks Taylorsville, UT, USA.

Hi Martin I can't help with 1841 sorry, but here is your family in 1861: 1861 Portsea, Hampshire Henry J Willcocks abt 1828 Southampton; Landport; Portsea Head Portsea Hampshire Julia Willcocks abt 1827 Southampton; Landport; Portsea Wife Portsea Hampshire Henry W S Willcocks abt 1855 Southampton; Portsea Son Portsea Hampshire Edmund S Willcocks abt 1857 Southampton; Portsea Son Portsea Hampshire Arthur S Willcocks abt 1860 Southampton; Portsea Son Portsea Hampshire Sarah Squire abt 1804 Southampton; Landport Lodger Portsea Hampshire Kind regards, Jon -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.4/66 - Release Date: 8/9/05

Hi Martin Thank you for the information re the KEMP family. The person I am seeking is Melissa Marion Barbara Kemp, age 20 years who married Albert Edwards age 22 years in 1907. Her father was Arthur Charles Kemp with occupation given as Clerk. The Kemp family were living at 34 Castle Row, Southsea at the time of the marriage . It has been "suggested" that Melissa could have been an Australian, because sometime after WWI they migrated to Victoria, but did return to England and moved to Norfolk. But as I said this is as "suggested" If there is anything you or Steve Baker can add it would be appreciated. Much searches of the Birth films via LDS have not proved successfully at this stage Thank you - Pamela NSW At 03:21 PM 10/08/2005, you wrote: >Hi Pamela: > >I may have posted about KEMP recently, but none of your other names >fit my interests, and my KEMP line is earlier than the dates you mention. > >There were several KEMP families in Portsea in the early 19th >century. For a long time, I had difficulty determining the >particular Sarah KEMP who had married Edmund SQUIRE, out of those >christened at St. Mary's Portsea. >These were, from IGI: >Sarah KEMP b. 29 Dec 1804 chr. 16 Jun 1805, parents George KEMP and Sarah (20) >Sarah KEMP b. 27 May 1803 chr. 26 Jul 1805, parents James KEMP and >Elizabeth (20) >Sarah KEMP chr. 31 Oct 1806, parents Robert KEMP and Hannah (19) >Sarah KEMP c. 30 Sep 1808, parents William KEMP and Jane (17) >The marriage took place at St. Mary's Portsea on 8 Jan 1826, at >which time the numbers in parentheses represent the approximate ages >based on christening dates (but see below). > >In February last year I received a message from Steve Baker on this >list. He mentioned the following family: >James KEMP m. Elizabeth FULLJAMES at St. Mary's, Portsea, on 4 Nov 1792 >Children: >Mary Harriet KEMP chr. 28 Jul 1793 St. Mary's, Portsea >James KEMP (2) and Jno. Richd. KEMP (1) chr. 9 Sep 1796 St. Mary's Portsea >Sarah KEMP b. 29 Apr 1799 chr. 7 Jul 1799 St. Mary's Portsea >Richard George KEMP, chr. 12 Jun 1801 St. Mary's, Portsea (m. Mary >DENTON 29 Oct 1825 St. Mary's Portsea) >Sarah KEMP b. 27 May 1803 chr. 26 Jul 1805 St. Mary's Portsea >Frederick KEMP chr. 5 Apr 1805 St. Mary's Portsea >William Henry KEMP chr. 2 May 1806 St. Mary's Portsea > >As you will see from the below information this does appear to be >the correct KEMP family for Sarah, though her birth date is >different by four days. I have marriage info for the parents, for >Richard George KEMP, Edmund SQUIRE and Sarah KEMP, and for a John >KEMP and Mary Ann HEATHER 12 Nov 1820 at St. Thomas, also John KEMP >and Leanes BOYCE 2 Dec 1823 at St. Thomas, thanks to Linda and >Tony's generous lookups. > >Although I do not have a death or burial record for Sarah b, 1799, >it would be very likely that she died before May 1803 when a second >Sarah KEMP was born in the same family. The only child of Edmund >SQUIRE and Sarah KEMP was Julia SQUIRE, who married Henry John >WILLCOCKS and they were my great-grandparents, married at All >Saints, Portsmouth on 23 Oct 1852. > >The question of which Sarah KEMP was my great-great-grandmother is >now definitively settled, as my greatuncle Henry William Squire >(HWSW below) personal genealogical notes from 1929 or earlier that >have recently been sent to me as a result of a contact through Essex >lists, since he lived in Harwich and Ramsey. He devoted a whole page >to his maternal grandparents and stated "Sarah Squire - Born May >23rd 1803 - Died April 18th 1863" underneath Edmund's dates "Born >March 8th 1802, Died Feb 12th 1845." I would like to find the family >in 1841, if anyone can provide the information. In 1851, Sarah is at: > >HO107/1658/F9 >33, Lion Place, >Sarah Squire Head(widow) 47 Government annuitant b. Portsmouth >Julia Dau 24 Dressmaker > >In 1861, I again have no apparent census information, but Sarah >would be 57, widowes, and probably with her relatives, but Julia by >that time was married to Henry John WILLCOCKS, who died 15 Dec 1864 >(according to HWSW) > >HWSW also wrote the following about Edmund and Sarah: >"My Maternal Grandparents were Edmund Squire and Sarah his wife nee >Kemp they were both born at Portsmouth, the Kemps were well known >Hatters and Manufactors of Straw Hats for the Navy, there was a >large family of Kemps while Edmund Squire was a Warrant Officer in >the Navy & died by sunstroke at "Mauritius" where he was buried." >Hence the Government Annuitant status for Sarah in widowhood! > >I would like to hear from anyone with details of >(a) 1841 census for Edmund (39) and Sarah Squire (38) likely both >shown as 35, in county with daughter Julia (14). >(b) 1861 census for Sarah Squire (57) who may be with son in law >Henry John WILLCOCKS (33) and her daughter (34) >(c) Any information about other descendants or ancestry of the >KEMP/FULLJAMES family members listed above. > >Also, if Steve Baker is still on the list, I would like to contact >him again about these connections. > >Regards >Martin Willcocks >Taylorsville, UT, USA. > > >==== ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT Mailing List ==== >Treat others as you wish to be treated yourselves, with respect > >Visit the knightroots website at www.knightroots.co.uk > >============================== >Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >areas they lived. 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