Hi Rob, Thanks very much for your help, it's really appreciated. The details are: Elizabeth was born Elizabeth Childs circa 1808, varying birthplaces and surnames with the censuses: 1851 - Allbray - Chillgrove, 1861/71 - Williams - Fareham, 1881 - Williams - Chichester. 1841 she would be Parsons, but whether her husband George had died or not by then I don't know. Her daughter Sarah Jane Parsons was chr March 1 1835 at Fareham, I have her on the censuses as follows: 1851 - Jane Parsons 15, 1861/71 - Sarah Adams, 1881/91 Sarah Habens, 1901 - Jane Habens, birthplaces on all censuses say Fareham, except 1861 says Titchfield. Thanks again Rob, kind regards, Jon -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.7/60 - Release Date: 7/28/05