Have just returned from a trip to the PRO where I found my great, great grandfather's details in the muster book for HMS Asia which was a barracks hulk in Portsmouth Harbour. Does anyone have any comments about the following, please: Previous ship - Tribune. Any details known? Was this also a hulk? Under the column, "Whither.." this is recorded - "Shore P P L". What does this mean? For three years he received a wage for the "Tuition of Young Gentlemen". Does this refer to all trainee seamen or priviledged young people only. (I remember Hornblower's special treatment of "young gentlemen" whose backs Bush wanted to scratch.) Incidentally, his wage was 1/7d a day in 1859! Thanks in anticipation Philip

Hi Philip, may I suggest that you try the "mariners" list. They are a very knowledgable group of listers and will I feel sure give you the info you want. Best wishes, Mike -----Original Message----- From: EWRAYSURE@aol.com [mailto:EWRAYSURE@aol.com] Sent: 04 July 2005 13:19 To: ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Naval musters book terms 1859 re:HMS Asia, Portsmouth Have just returned from a trip to the PRO where I found my great, great grandfather's details in the muster book for HMS Asia which was a barracks hulk in Portsmouth Harbour. Does anyone have any comments about the following, please: Previous ship - Tribune. Any details known? Was this also a hulk? Under the column, "Whither.." this is recorded - "Shore P P L". What does this mean? For three years he received a wage for the "Tuition of Young Gentlemen". Does this refer to all trainee seamen or priviledged young people only. (I remember Hornblower's special treatment of "young gentlemen" whose backs Bush wanted to scratch.) Incidentally, his wage was 1/7d a day in 1859! Thanks in anticipation Philip ==== ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT Mailing List ==== Visit the knightroots website at www.knightroots.co.uk for newbies info,photos of local areas & for free look ups on the PRs we have at home. ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 267.8.8 - Release Date: 30/06/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 267.8.8 - Release Date: 30/06/2005

Philip Regret I can add nothing for 1859 at the present time - although I'm sure the almost daily Naval and Military Intelligence section of the Times for that year should give you a good idea as to what she was doing - The Times is available on Microfiche at a lot of good reference libraries in the UK - and you can also find it on-line from time to time during National Library Week etc. You can also find a few details in respect of the vessel on my web site at : http://www.pbenyon.plus.com/18-1900/T/04876.html I have a feeling that those who served on board in Chinese waters in 1856 may have been eligible for a medal in addition to the Grant awarded by parliament. I've seen the initials PPL before, but have yet to work out what they mean. Regards Paul On Mon, 4 Jul 2005 08:19:23 EDT, EWRAYSURE@aol.com wrote: >Have just returned from a trip to the PRO where I found >my great, great grandfather's details in the muster book for >HMS Asia which was a barracks hulk in Portsmouth Harbour. > >Does anyone have any comments about the following, please: > > Previous ship - Tribune. Any details known? Was this also a hulk? > Under the column, "Whither.." this is recorded - "Shore P P L". What > does this mean? > For three years he received a wage for the "Tuition of Young Gentlemen". > Does this refer to all trainee seamen or priviledged young people >only. > (I remember Hornblower's special treatment of "young gentlemen" whose > backs Bush wanted to scratch.) > >Incidentally, his wage was 1/7d a day in 1859! > >Thanks in anticipation > >Philip > > >==== ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT Mailing List ==== >Visit the knightroots website at www.knightroots.co.uk for newbies info,photos of local areas & for free look ups on the PRs we have at home. > >============================== >Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx 50.33.50N 02.26.70W http://www.pbenyon.plus.com/Naval.html